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Reply #120 posted 11/29/04 5:05pm

PEJ

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DiminutiveRocker said:

nod YES! BRING BACK 2the9s - WE MISS HIM!!!!


He added fun and humor to the Org for most of us!

In the spirit of the holidays...bring the tractor boy back!
xmas




yes plus when he's here he knows how to get the holiday feel in full swing so is there any sign of his return as of yet???? anyone know anything?
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #121 posted 11/29/04 7:00pm

Faux

Has EWM been banned?

If so, you can keep your 2the9s in exchange for EWM remaining banned! I am well and truly placated. smile

Result!
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Reply #122 posted 11/30/04 12:23am

PEJ

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Faux said:

Has EWM been banned?

If so, you can keep your 2the9s in exchange for EWM remaining banned! I am well and truly placated. smile

Result!



No 2the9s means more than 1,000,000 ewm's!!! Just let them keep ice "mastagone" 9 and we'll be fine. If 2the9s doesn't get a chance to come back I'm afraid the vibe at the org will be dull. wonder if others will leave in case he's not allowed back..... here's something fans of EWM and Ice9 will be happy to hear.... those two will be back!!!! you bet on that!
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Reply #123 posted 11/30/04 9:22am

mdiver

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Faux said:

Is a orgnote about a flame post a strike then?


Often yes. When a strike is issued, the moderation software requires that an orgNote be sent to the user. The software includes several "form letter" orgNotes (which may be modified), and one is for flame posts.

OTOH, a mod might simply choose to send an orgNote to the offending user without issuing a strike. As Tom mentioned, the mod might also make a note in the user's account history about the offense.

Do they expire?


Yes and no. The software requires that an explanation be entered for any strike, and this comment (along with a notation that a strike was issued) is permanent. However, strikes do "expire" in the sense that after a certain number of days, they are no longer counted when a user's "strike total" is displayed.

(Actually, I think there's a bug in the system... it may be that strikes issued prior to the current mod software don't expire. This isn't as big of a problem as it sounds, though, because a user's strike total doesn't trigger anything by itself, and all strikes include the date issued, so it's clear when a strike is for something that happened two years ago.)


Do us plebs get to know at any time how many strikes we may have?
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Reply #124 posted 11/30/04 9:40am

DiminutiveRock
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PEJ said:

If 2the9s doesn't get a chance to come back I'm afraid the vibe at the org will be dull.


ABSOLUTELY!


woot! Bring back 2the9s!!!!!
[Edited 11/30/04 9:41am]
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Reply #125 posted 11/30/04 10:38am

TheOrgerFormer
lyKnownAs

Faux said:

Has EWM been banned?

If so, you can keep your 2the9s in exchange for EWM remaining banned! I am well and truly placated. smile

Result!
Evil's gone, too? Evil's my buddy. Bring him back, too.
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Reply #126 posted 11/30/04 11:20am

JusTinTimE

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DexMSR said I'm not an Orger...I just Crush alot!

pimp


FUKIn classic wHAp MASTEr!
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Reply #127 posted 11/30/04 12:28pm

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

Evil's gone, too? Evil's my buddy. Bring him back, too.


It's a shame-he's a nice guy.
Let the rain come down...17 days....
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Reply #128 posted 11/30/04 3:49pm

bkw

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PEJ said:

wonder if others will leave in case he's not allowed back.....

Quite a few me thinks....
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #129 posted 11/30/04 3:53pm

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Mwwwwaaaaahahah, my evil plan is working! Soon I shall take the place of 2the9s and rule the Org!!

evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol
[Edited 11/30/04 15:54pm]
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Reply #130 posted 11/30/04 3:57pm

GrayKing

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bkw said:

PEJ said:

wonder if others will leave in case he's not allowed back.....

Quite a few me thinks....


probably sad


but then, they'll all probably go off to some secret website and start making fun of the people on this one. i've heard it happens! that wouldn't be nice.
"Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one."
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Reply #131 posted 11/30/04 3:58pm

conch5184

2the10s said:

Mwwwwaaaaahahah, my evil plan is working! Soon I shall take the place of 2the9s and rule the Org!!

evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol
[Edited 11/30/04 15:54pm]




Three times I've tried to open your profile and everytime all my computer's windows closed themselves eek Seriously.
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Reply #132 posted 11/30/04 4:38pm

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Alright, I shyed away from posting anything for a while cause I tend to stay outta drama and whatnot when I'm not directly involved, but I decided to add my two cents anyway. Not that it really matters, or what I have to say will change anything. shrug

I miss 9s. I want him unbanned.
And after meeting Matt in person and getting to know him the timiest but better, I like him a lot and he doesn't seem the type to go in for power battles or petty crap like that, so I wanna give him the benfit of the doubt. I fully admit that I don't really understand the reasons he was banned in the first place and concede it's possible there's lotsa stuff I don't know about that could've been heck for the mods.
But, see, I think that's why it's so frustrating/puzzlesome/troubling. Of all the other people that have been permenently banned since I've been a part of the org, while I may not always have agreed, I've at least understood why and where the reasoning came from. With this one, its still just not clear to me.

So I hope things can be worked out when Ben gets a chance and all that good stuff. At this point, it should just be water under the bridge, all happy whatnot, good night.
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Reply #133 posted 11/30/04 6:32pm

bkw

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2the10s said:

Mwwwwaaaaahahah, my evil plan is working! Soon I shall take the place of 2the9s and rule the Org!!

evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol evillol
[Edited 11/30/04 15:54pm]

fishslap
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #134 posted 11/30/04 6:33pm

bkw

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CarrieMpls said:

Alright, I shyed away from posting anything for a while cause I tend to stay outta drama and whatnot when I'm not directly involved, but I decided to add my two cents anyway. Not that it really matters, or what I have to say will change anything. shrug

I miss 9s. I want him unbanned.
And after meeting Matt in person and getting to know him the timiest but better, I like him a lot and he doesn't seem the type to go in for power battles or petty crap like that, so I wanna give him the benfit of the doubt. I fully admit that I don't really understand the reasons he was banned in the first place and concede it's possible there's lotsa stuff I don't know about that could've been heck for the mods.
But, see, I think that's why it's so frustrating/puzzlesome/troubling. Of all the other people that have been permenently banned since I've been a part of the org, while I may not always have agreed, I've at least understood why and where the reasoning came from. With this one, its still just not clear to me.

So I hope things can be worked out when Ben gets a chance and all that good stuff. At this point, it should just be water under the bridge, all happy whatnot, good night.

Very nicely put Carrie.
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #135 posted 11/30/04 6:38pm

DiminutiveRock
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bkw said:

CarrieMpls said:

Alright, I shyed away from posting anything for a while cause I tend to stay outta drama and whatnot when I'm not directly involved, but I decided to add my two cents anyway. Not that it really matters, or what I have to say will change anything. shrug

I miss 9s. I want him unbanned.
And after meeting Matt in person and getting to know him the timiest but better, I like him a lot and he doesn't seem the type to go in for power battles or petty crap like that, so I wanna give him the benfit of the doubt. I fully admit that I don't really understand the reasons he was banned in the first place and concede it's possible there's lotsa stuff I don't know about that could've been heck for the mods.
But, see, I think that's why it's so frustrating/puzzlesome/troubling. Of all the other people that have been permenently banned since I've been a part of the org, while I may not always have agreed, I've at least understood why and where the reasoning came from. With this one, its still just not clear to me.

So I hope things can be worked out when Ben gets a chance and all that good stuff. At this point, it should just be water under the bridge, all happy whatnot, good night.

Very nicely put Carrie.


Double ditto nod
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Reply #136 posted 11/30/04 7:18pm

bkw

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Someone asked me to post this...

Is this thread about me?

confused


disbelief
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Reply #137 posted 12/01/04 1:03am

matt

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mdiver said:

Do us plebs get to know at any time how many strikes we may have?


Under the old "three-strikes-and-you're-out" system, I generally would tell a user how many strikes he/she had if he/she asked. However, now that strikes don't actually "do" anything, and are just an internal notation for the use of the mods, I'm inclined not to provide that information. Plus, there's the previously-mentioned possible bug about some users' "strike total" being inaccurate.

With all that said... it's now impossible to issue a strike without sending a warning orgNote to the user, so if you've gotten such an orgNote(s), it's fair to assume that you've likely been given a strike (or at least a note in your account history). Also, if I ban somebody in part because of past actions, which is the case 95% of the time, then I'll explain how I made my decision if the user asks; e.g., "June7 warned you 10 days ago for flaming user X, and Tom warned you 5 days ago when you posted flamebait aimed at user Y, so when you flamed user Z today, I decided a 24-hour ban was appropriate."
Please note: effective March 21, 2010, I've stepped down from my prince.org Moderator position.
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Reply #138 posted 12/01/04 1:09am

matt

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A status update for those concerned....

Ben contacted me today and asked if we could set up a telephone call to discuss this matter, so he can make a final decision. I hope we'll be able to make it happen tomorrow (Wednesday). I've told him that I'm available all day, and I've given him both my home and cell telephone numbers.
Please note: effective March 21, 2010, I've stepped down from my prince.org Moderator position.
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Reply #139 posted 12/01/04 1:10am

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GrayKing said:

"On the Org, the Moderatros first came for Nep2nes,

and I didn't speak up because I wasn't Nep2nes.

Then they came for IceNine,

and I didn't speak up because I wasn't IceNine's friend.

Then they came for Aaron,

and I didn't speak up because I didn't like Aaron.

Then they came for rdhull,

and I didn't speak up because I was lazy,

Then they came for EvilWhiteMale,

and I didn't speak up because I wasn't Evil, White, or Male,

Then they came for me,

and by that time there was no one left to speak for me."




this just made me very sad. i liked all of those people.
i don't spend as much time debating and joking around in
the GD forum as many others but i do have some favs and
they were all among my favs (with the exception of EWM
whom i didn't really know).

but seeing them listed together it makes one's heart sink
especially since 2the9's is supposedly banned forever now.

bawl

at least give us back 2the9's

sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #140 posted 12/01/04 1:21am

matt

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IstenSzek said:

this just made me very sad. i liked all of those people.
i don't spend as much time debating and joking around in
the GD forum as many others but i do have some favs and
they were all among my favs (with the exception of EWM
whom i didn't really know).

but seeing them listed together it makes one's heart sink
especially since 2the9's is supposedly banned forever now.

bawl

at least give us back 2the9's

sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad


Just for the record....

1) 2the9s isn't banned "forever." He's banned indefinitely. At this time, we haven't decided if and when he'll be allowed back.

2) Nep2nes is once again an .org member in good standing, although she doesn't post nearly as much as she used to.
Please note: effective March 21, 2010, I've stepped down from my prince.org Moderator position.
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Reply #141 posted 12/01/04 1:43am

TheFrog

matt said:

A status update for those concerned....

Ben contacted me today and asked if we could set up a telephone call to discuss this matter, so he can make a final decision. I hope we'll be able to make it happen tomorrow (Wednesday). I've told him that I'm available all day, and I've given him both my home and cell telephone numbers.


woot!

pray

smoker edit
[Edited 12/1/04 1:44am]
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Reply #142 posted 12/01/04 1:52am

AndGodCreatedM
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TheFrog said:

matt said:

A status update for those concerned....

Ben contacted me today and asked if we could set up a telephone call to discuss this matter, so he can make a final decision. I hope we'll be able to make it happen tomorrow (Wednesday). I've told him that I'm available all day, and I've given him both my home and cell telephone numbers.


woot!

pray

smoker edit
[Edited 12/1/04 1:44am]



co woot!


Please let allowe him to get back pray
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Reply #143 posted 12/01/04 2:19am

subhuman09

AndGodCreatedMe said:

TheFrog said:



woot!

pray

smoker edit
[Edited 12/1/04 1:44am]



co woot!


Please let allowe him to get back pray


nod

Definitely.

I hope this is all resolved quickly.
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Reply #144 posted 12/01/04 3:19am

mdiver

matt said:

mdiver said:

Do us plebs get to know at any time how many strikes we may have?


Under the old "three-strikes-and-you're-out" system, I generally would tell a user how many strikes he/she had if he/she asked. However, now that strikes don't actually "do" anything, and are just an internal notation for the use of the mods, I'm inclined not to provide that information. Plus, there's the previously-mentioned possible bug about some users' "strike total" being inaccurate.

With all that said... it's now impossible to issue a strike without sending a warning orgNote to the user, so if you've gotten such an orgNote(s), it's fair to assume that you've likely been given a strike (or at least a note in your account history). Also, if I ban somebody in part because of past actions, which is the case 95% of the time, then I'll explain how I made my decision if the user asks; e.g., "June7 warned you 10 days ago for flaming user X, and Tom warned you 5 days ago when you posted flamebait aimed at user Y, so when you flamed user Z today, I decided a 24-hour ban was appropriate."


Thanks Matt I appreciate the answer. I get involved in some stuff here in the UK with reference to data protection and would say that you may have to watch yourself if someone wanted to get shitty. IMHO lol
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Reply #145 posted 12/01/04 3:37am

Lleena

matt said:

A status update for those concerned....

Ben contacted me today and asked if we could set up a telephone call to discuss this matter, so he can make a final decision. I hope we'll be able to make it happen tomorrow (Wednesday). I've told him that I'm available all day, and I've given him both my home and cell telephone numbers.



yay!

Thanks for the update.

I hope that 2the9s is allowed back, I've missed kicking his ass. My foot has been kind of just lolling around with nothing to do.
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Reply #146 posted 12/01/04 4:32am

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I miss 9sie too.....sad

neutral

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Reply #147 posted 12/01/04 5:05am

Lleena

I hope that this thread along with the others discussing 9s being banned is taken into consideration, his presence here is genuinely missed and I know that the decision ultimately belongs to Ben, but I just wanted to say this.


Here's hoping pray
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Reply #148 posted 12/01/04 7:15am

teller

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<---- doesn't care
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #149 posted 12/01/04 7:18am

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teller said:

<---- doesn't care

[Flame snipped. --Matt]
[Edited 12/2/04 5:24am]

"..My work is personal, I'm a working person, I put in work, I work with purpose.."
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