lovemachine said:

What is the point of anyone starting or replying to a thread besides bringin attention to one's self?

"Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot. Discuss fashion."

lovemachine said:

I thought you were referring to the original thread she posted in P&R. I think we're all guitly of attention getting. I seem to remember someone in a little red devil suit

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I probably have a harsher opinion on the matter then some of the people you are mentioning and I am the least hateful person I know. Nobody who knows me could describe me as hateful.

I just didn't write anything because I knew that she was just venting but the flip side is if you are going to vent you have to expect opposing viewpoints...especially when you say something so controversial. It was harsh but I don'tknow if I would go as far as to call it hateful.

IMO some people are too sensitive for this site and specifically that forum which is why I suggested that yeah maybe she stay out.

lovemachine said:

I don't believe that your read the entire thread.

She didn't want help for herself..

She wanted to help for her sister.. That is a completely selfless gesture..

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

True...I do like attention but I have never started a thread to put down another segment of the org population. Taken at face value this thread seems innoncent but IMO this thread was started with an agenda (looking for more people to tell her she's right) and belongs in the P and R forum.

lovemachine said:

Maybe I should go back and re-read what I said because I cannot understand where you guys are getting that I'm asking for help for myself as a single parent and even if I was, in the land of milk and honey, what is wrong with that? The thread was not about taking care of me and I will say it again, it was about taking care of what's wrong in our society IN MY OPINION. Also, in my opinion, the person who responded very negatively in that thread had something hateful to say to, not only me, but others. Damn, lovemachine. If you knew anything about me, you would know in my almost three years here, I don't say such things about people lightly. I have always been one to respect others opinions and while you try to say I am jumping on someone's opinion because they don't agree wtih me, I don't exactly see you trying to see my side of it. I see you only seeing what you wanted to get out of my thread.

As far as you thinking I started an attention seeking thread, whatevs. I was venting. If no one had responded to it, it wouldn't have made me a bit of damn difference. I don't think I deserve anything for being a single mother other than respect for taking care of my responsibilties.

lovemachine said:

Well you can have an opinion about something without being a complete bitch about it. I'd definitely say that some of the posts were full of hate. But then again, some people think I'm straight out evil and it's the furthest thing from the truth

lovemachine said:

Or maybe that she's right and should stay out.... Either way, many people feel like they cannot enter that forum because of the nature of what it takes to survive in a tank of sharks

sag10 said:

Okay if she thinks her sister deserves something simply because she is a single mother....

(This is why I didn't get involved over there because on this site I hold an unpopular viewpoint on this subject).

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

I don't think that your thread was about taking care of me but the rest of what you said is fair enough.

tofka, if it makes you feel any better, i've pretty much learned to steer clear of that forum. everytime i go in there and say something...regardless of how i present it or explain it or whatever...i'm blasted for this, that and the other thing. if someone doesn't agree with you they'd rather insult you than listen to WHY you feel that way. i've found that my words and opinions get so twisted in there...its pointless to bother addressing an issue. in the end, the issue never gets looked at and, instead, insults arise and attention is taken away from the main concern.

i'll leave my political and religious discussions for those who can respect a variety of opinions.

lovemachine said:

I don't think she thinks anything of the sort. But there comes a time in life when we can all use a little help..

lovemachine said:

When I started that thread, I knew that there would be opposing viewpoints, I was actually looking forward to it. I didn't write what I wrote for attention or to get people to agree with me, I wrote simply what was on my mind and has been for a very long time. In my opinion, when the one particular orger made some the the comments that were made, she/he insulted other Orgers, even going so far as to call one a sucker. He/she came across to me as classist, to say the least and that is fucked up.

I invite you to visit that thread and say whatever it is you feel like you wanna say. It won't bother me in the least and I would still repsect your opnion as I have always respected many others here. Too bad that Orger could not do the same.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I've pretty much vacated posting on the forum because I realize I'm not going to change any minds and it takes a lot of energy to continually defend myself against what feels like everyone on this site This site leans WAY LEFT I mean I'm practically in the center but on this site I might as well be Rush Limbaugh with how I'm looked at

I find it more fun to discuss issues with real people in person anyway.

lovemachine said:

Comically, according to any type of test I've taken, I'm pretty much center as well For me, I always continue to tread water because even though I may not be changing anyone's mind who posts in that forum, the chance is that something I write may touch somebody out in cyberland. Reaching even 1 person is worth it IMO.

lovemachine said:

In person may not work, either. I have friends that I have been close to for years and we cannot discuss politics or religion period.

If you're up to it, Orgnote me with your opinion of what I wrote. I also said early on in that thread that I was coming from a place of ignorance and there are things I just don't know. you may actually be able to change a mind.

well, thats the wonderful thing about the org...there are forums for everyone...

i myself rarely step foot in this or the prince:music more forum...

should i start a "stay out of general discussion forum" thread?

sosgemini said:

Yes.

























YOU ATTENTION WHORE!

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

I try not to know it. Nobody likes a bighead.

Much love to you, honey.

Thunderbird said:

It involves the anus, doesn't it?

doctormcmeekle said:

I stay away from these topics...in general

dudes! you say your gonna stay outta there (i've done that to) but it's gonna keep callin' you back! just accept it

XxAxX said:

word!

Tofka,

When you shy away from the entire forum they will have won.

Stay, you are a strong woman.

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

if they could only learn to love themself then they wouldn't hate so much! it's a fact!

PEJ said:

Interesting enough that I can deal with EWM, teller (on some days) and a couple of the other conservatives on this site....Ewm has never attacked ME but my comments. I think this is the problem with P&R and I'm probably guilty as well.

There's nothing wrong with commenting on a person's views BUT some go after the person. Just because someone doesn't want to be personally attacked doesn't mean they are too sensitive for P&R. We all have our views, so its about respect.

I'm really don't want to add any additional insults to my signature...yanno.