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Reply #90 posted 11/28/16 6:48pm

IsufferfromMPS

Mumio said:

Really don't see the big deal given how many performers are going to be there and the other things that go with the cost. Why do people think that those who've performed with Prince in the past think those people should do this for free or short money? I don't think it's too much to ask for since most people who go on vacation every year probably spend a couple thousand anyway. So why the angst? It's the same on FB, people saying "oh, I paid $250 for a week of performances by Prince back in 2002". Seriously? These things aren't comparable and no one is gonna pay any amount of money ever again to see Prince live so a ridiculous comparison imo. Take it or leave it...but damn, it's tiresome to see his fans bitching constantly about everything being done to keep PP operational. Would you all be happy if it closed down and had to be sold because people didn't want to pay to support the cost? People don't really think the family should foot the bill, do they? How else will the doors stay open? People need to get a grip and stop complaining all the time about everything. Sorry to rant, but I'm tired of this same scenario played over and over and over.



Applause! !!!!! Bunch of whiny wind bags that call themselves fans on here. So disappointed with this place.
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Reply #91 posted 11/28/16 6:59pm

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CandaceS said:

cool

Yeah! Congratulations!!!! Lucky duck!!!

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Reply #92 posted 11/28/16 7:01pm

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rogifan said:

XxAxX said:



this.

And? Prince isn't here so who would you want running it? Who else has experience running something like this besides Graceland?

Oh I don't know -- only hundreds of museums across the United States - for starters. rolleyes They should have incorporated it as a 501(c)3 not-for-profit* instead of an LLC.

*Just because a museum is not-for-profit doesn't mean it can't make a profit. It means the profit is reinvested in the museum to support its programs instead of being paid to shareholders.

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Reply #93 posted 11/28/16 7:02pm

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For that kind of money, I really have to ask...is there going to be a SEANCE??? Because the ONLY way I could justify spending that much damn money. I would have to somehow be able to kick it with Prince, himself. IJS! shrug disbelief falloff


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Reply #94 posted 11/28/16 7:06pm

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Mumio said:

Really don't see the big deal given how many performers are going to be there and the other things that go with the cost. Why do people think that those who've performed with Prince in the past think those people should do this for free or short money? I don't think it's too much to ask for since most people who go on vacation every year probably spend a couple thousand anyway. So why the angst? It's the same on FB, people saying "oh, I paid $250 for a week of performances by Prince back in 2002". Seriously? These things aren't comparable and no one is gonna pay any amount of money ever again to see Prince live so a ridiculous comparison imo. Take it or leave it...but damn, it's tiresome to see his fans bitching constantly about everything being done to keep PP operational. Would you all be happy if it closed down and had to be sold because people didn't want to pay to support the cost? People don't really think the family should foot the bill, do they? How else will the doors stay open? People need to get a grip and stop complaining all the time about everything. Sorry to rant, but I'm tired of this same scenario played over and over and over.


falloff Exactly!

Yes, its a bit expensive, but I didn't get to go to the earlier Celebrations. sad

To be fair, some ppl may be miffed because they just spent a bunch of money in October to see the tribute concert, etc. I did too, but I was planning to go back again in April or maybe June. I'd already booked a hotel for April and turns out the dates work perfectly.

I'm happily surprised they announced this already. I figured that any special event(s) around April 21 wouldn't be announced until next year. Now I've got something to plan around. I just hope there are no last-second glitches like we had with our PP tours, lol. I will definitely be buying travel insurance!

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Reply #95 posted 11/28/16 8:30pm

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IsufferfromMPS said:

Mumio said:

Really don't see the big deal given how many performers are going to be there and the other things that go with the cost. Why do people think that those who've performed with Prince in the past think those people should do this for free or short money? I don't think it's too much to ask for since most people who go on vacation every year probably spend a couple thousand anyway. So why the angst? It's the same on FB, people saying "oh, I paid $250 for a week of performances by Prince back in 2002". Seriously? These things aren't comparable and no one is gonna pay any amount of money ever again to see Prince live so a ridiculous comparison imo. Take it or leave it...but damn, it's tiresome to see his fans bitching constantly about everything being done to keep PP operational. Would you all be happy if it closed down and had to be sold because people didn't want to pay to support the cost? People don't really think the family should foot the bill, do they? How else will the doors stay open? People need to get a grip and stop complaining all the time about everything. Sorry to rant, but I'm tired of this same scenario played over and over and over.

Applause! !!!!!!!!!!!!! Bunch of whiny wind bags that call themselves fans on here. So disappointed with this place.

Tell you what. YOU pay the cost, make ME your +One...and YOU can be the BOSS! I will happily follow your lead and represent as YOU feel...I should. wink deal

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Reply #96 posted 11/28/16 8:39pm

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Awesome/congrats/God bless to those who have access and the ability to afford the price of the ticket, as well as any extra expenses associated with attending the celebration. I personally don't think that it is complaining to state your opinion about the cost, that is just some fan/fams reality, that they do not have that kind of money to spend. Prince attracted a diverse following, and one would assume that would include economic diversity. Yes, PP needs to survive and thrive, but I would hope and pray that someone affiliated with the operation would be sensitive and cognizant of the economic circumstances/status of his diverse fan base and offer options designed to include rather than exclude. Just my opinion.
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Reply #97 posted 11/28/16 8:52pm

morningsong

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I would really love to attend this but shit! $499 for General Admission and $999 for VIP??? Well just damn. Since I work Monday - Friday, I'd have to put in for my 2017 vacation time on January 2, 2017 and I'd have to be there all 4 days, so there's the additional airfare, hotel and car rental fees. And there's no way I'd be able to come alone. So my expense is multiplied by 2.. from the get go.




For that kind of money, I really have to ask...is there going to be a SEANCE??? Because the ONLY way I could justify spending that much damn money. I would have to somehow be able to kick it with Prince, himself. IJS! shrug disbelief falloff




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Reply #98 posted 11/28/16 9:04pm

LBrent

I'm not ready for this yet.

Not sure when I will be but I'm definitely not ready yet, regardless of the price, even if it was free.

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Reply #99 posted 11/28/16 9:08pm

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Nope. Not at THOSE prices. Prince woud have to perform for those kind of prices.

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Reply #100 posted 11/28/16 9:31pm

gandorb

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Genesia said:


Or don't sell out - which is the more likely scenario. lol

Press release says supply is limited so I'm guessing not that many 4-day passes were made available, otherwise why even mention that at all, especially at these prices?

It is a advertising gimmick to try to justify the high prices (e.g., you can be among the few elite if you buy these tickets but you better hurry to buy them soon before we run out).

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Reply #101 posted 11/28/16 10:28pm

rogifan

DevotedPuppy said:



rogifan said:


XxAxX said:




this.



And? Prince isn't here so who would you want running it? Who else has experience running something like this besides Graceland?


Oh I don't know -- only hundreds of museums across the United States - for starters. rolleyes They should have incorporated it as a 501(c)3 not-for-profit* instead of an LLC.




*Just because a museum is not-for-profit doesn't mean it can't make a profit. It means the profit is reinvested in the museum to support its programs instead of being paid to shareholders.


And what would they be doing differently? Do you know who the shareholders of this LLC are and what they're being paid right now? I don't. But I do know Graceland put up the initial funds needed to turn PP into a museum and run the place. I guess I don't understand why all the hate for Graceland as if it's evil or something. confused
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Reply #102 posted 11/28/16 10:37pm

rogifan

gandorb said:



rogifan said:


Genesia said:



Or don't sell out - which is the more likely scenario. lol



Press release says supply is limited so I'm guessing not that many 4-day passes were made available, otherwise why even mention that at all, especially at these prices?

It is a advertising gimmick to try to justify the high prices (e.g., you can be among the few elite if you buy these tickets but you better hurry to buy them soon before we run out).


Do you really believe at these prices there are people on the fence who bought because the press release said limited supply? confused

Anyway Londell tweeted:

L Londell McMillan (@LondellMcMillan)
11/28/16, 9:17 PM
#PRINCE WAS ALWAYS MINDFUL OF HIS LOVING FANS AND COSTS 💜 #STAYTUNED


I have no idea what he means by "stay tuned". According to Londell himself he's not involved with the museum so I'm not sure why he's inserting himself. Unless PP is planning to offer cheaper options that will be announced soon? But his tweet makes it sound like he personally did something...
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Reply #103 posted 11/28/16 10:44pm

thebiscuit

Ticket booked. If it's anything like the poster it'll be a respectful and tasteful affair. I'm seeing this is a bit of a purple pilgrimage to show respect and give thanks to the man who gave me so much over the last 27 years. It's expensive, but for me, it's worth it. PS- I live in South Africa.
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Reply #104 posted 11/28/16 10:48pm

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thebiscuit said:

Ticket booked. If it's anything like the poster it'll be a respectful and tasteful affair. I'm seeing this is a bit of a purple pilgrimage to show respect and give thanks to the man who gave me so much over the last 27 years. It's expensive, but for me, it's worth it. PS- I live in South Africa.

Wow! eek

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Reply #105 posted 11/28/16 11:18pm

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I don't have a problem with the price at all for the number of days it will be. I would also have to factor in airfare, hotel, transportation. The timing is a little off for me, not sure I could get that time off work.

That being said, if my DH can spend over $3k to go to men's fantasy baseball camp for a week (not including airfare) in January, then the Prince Celebration is relatively inexpensive!

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Reply #106 posted 11/29/16 1:08am

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rogifan said:

XxAxX said:



this.

And? Prince isn't here so who would you want running it? Who else has experience running something like this besides Graceland?



experience?? hmmmm. let's take a look at that experience so far, shall we.

for starters, this experienced organization (EPE/graceland) didn't have the business savvy to make sure they could honor the tickets they sold. they just went right ahead and sold tickets before they even knew whether the city council would approve the project.

let me repeat that: they sold tickets to an event they did not have permission to open to the public. at worst, this is fraud. at best, it is stupid in action.

to make matters worse, this was NOT the city council's fault (although EPE/Graceland tried to make it seem that way, and encouraged the fans to see it that way too, which is pretty tacky, shifting the blame like that).

no, the permitting issue was solely the responsibility of EPE/Graceland to get. it. right. before. selling. tickets.

in fact - and here's the real kicker - they didn't even have the wherewithal to obtain permission for a plan B, which would have been obtaining short-term permitting for weekend events, just in case plan A fell through, which it did. really? no one even thought 'hey, what if...?'

in fact some fans bought non-refundable plane tickets and traveled to minnesota from out of state and distant countries, expecting to take a tour on the day for which they purchased the ticket. they were sorely disappointed, as they have expressed here on this website.

not to mention, how long did it take for EPE/Graceland to refund ticket prices for the dishonored tour dates??? one month?? six weeks? people were seriously inconvenienced, and then they were forced to petition EPE/Graceland to get the money which was taken from them on a fraudulent basis.

the only reason EPE/Graceland got away with these experienced moves without challenge is because Prince fans are very very loyal, still grieving, and desperate to see the Park because they miss Prince so badly.

then, there is the urn in the lobby and the way EPE/Graceland sprung that on the first group all like SURPRISE!!! behold!! here are Prince's ashes. eek did you read how that affected those poor souls? my god.

and how about the under-educated tour guides (not their fault, those poor tossed-into-the-whirlwind-without-a-lifeline-people) and painfully lacking, barely informative mistake-riddled scripted speeches which fans have been complaining about and openly mocking.

and let's not forget the fuckery about people sitting on Prince's piano, and/or posing licking his guitar. eek yes, i know. by NOW that issue has been addressed. but again - this is yet another example of EPE/Graceland demonstrating its lack of professional foresight.

this issue - potential damage to Prince's musical instruments - could be seen coming from a mile away by a blind man. so why did EPE/Graceland figure it out only after the fact??? experience??

i understand that you, and others, may have a different viewpoint and that's okay. we can disagree and no one is the lesser.

and overall i'm very glad that Prince's wish is being honored. i want to see Paisley Park succeed as much as you do. really and truly. it breaks me heart to think of the place standing empty. it should be vibrating with music and love forever, imo.

but so far from what i've seen, EPE/Graceland have made one mistake after another, on basic issues, really simple and predictable things. and their mistakes are not because of a lack of time, those mistakes reflect a lack of business acumen and planning.

this is why EPE/Graceland occasionally disappoints me and i sometimes question if they are truly the best option for running the Park. time will tell. i hope for the best.

but now, here's the pricing issue which does seem to be causing a bit of a stir eh?? personally i don't mind the prices. i'll pay because i consider it a good cause. but i do understand that others might not be able to pay those amounts and it could be a hardship for some folks. i can sympathize with their concerns.

again, these are only my opinions and i offer this negative feedback not to denigrate Paisley Park (which i happen to love with all my heart), but only because i'm concerned about how unprofessional these mistakes by experienced management have been. i am afraid tEPE/Graceland will alienate Prince's fan base over time, thereby jeopardizing the Park's long-term viability.

at any rate i sincerely wish the best outcome, and i believe Prince fans will see things through to eventual long term success.

we're a tough lot, us fans, used to standing in the cold for midnight parties and staying late even when we have to work the next day. we'll make it work. but for some it's been a bit rough going so far.

that about sums it up. no offense intended. thanks for listening.

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Reply #107 posted 11/29/16 1:17am

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I live a half hour away and won't be going at these prices. Even if I started saving now it's not realistic. I have other things in my life that are important to me too - like family vacations for example - that I can't justify putting this amount of money aside for something that is only for my benefit. I'm still trying to recover financially from all the memorial/tribute events I've attended and items I purchased related to these events. In addition to now feeling guilty/anxious about the effect it's going to have on our holiday celebrations this year. So unless they offer something more reasonably priced to attend that week I'm going to have to pass.
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Reply #108 posted 11/29/16 1:40am

clairew1975

IsufferfromMPS said:

Mumio said:

Really don't see the big deal given how many performers are going to be there and the other things that go with the cost. Why do people think that those who've performed with Prince in the past think those people should do this for free or short money? I don't think it's too much to ask for since most people who go on vacation every year probably spend a couple thousand anyway. So why the angst? It's the same on FB, people saying "oh, I paid $250 for a week of performances by Prince back in 2002". Seriously? These things aren't comparable and no one is gonna pay any amount of money ever again to see Prince live so a ridiculous comparison imo. Take it or leave it...but damn, it's tiresome to see his fans bitching constantly about everything being done to keep PP operational. Would you all be happy if it closed down and had to be sold because people didn't want to pay to support the cost? People don't really think the family should foot the bill, do they? How else will the doors stay open? People need to get a grip and stop complaining all the time about everything. Sorry to rant, but I'm tired of this same scenario played over and over and over.



Applause! !!!!! Bunch of whiny wind bags that call themselves fans on here. So disappointed with this place.


Are you seriously telling me that the people running the Estate don't see a huge money making opportunity from fans they know will want to go to Paisley Park on the anniversary of his death.

You can dress it up as a 'celebration' if you want but charging those prices over that weekend is just wrong in my opinion. Taking advantage of grieving fans who feel they need to be there but can't afford it is wrong!

The Estate needs to ensure Paisley stays viable all year round, agreed, but they better come up with a better business plan because it won't work if they are going to base it solely around important key dates like April 21 or his birthday.

PRNfamily tweeted "A reminder from @prince" which was a short video of Prince and Mel B where he said "I will celebrate my death".

I've been a Prince fan for over 30 years and I found that tweet insensitive & taken out of context. To use that video as a way of justifying this 'celebration' was wrong on so many levels!!!
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Reply #109 posted 11/29/16 3:01am

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I don't know..I've paid more than this for a weekend to Baltimore..Must figure general admission is $38.50 for 70 mins soooo 1200+ mins (20+ hrs) x $38.50 wld be $660. Hence $500 a bargain? Airfare $300, hotel $400 = $1200

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Reply #110 posted 11/29/16 3:04am

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I have never been to Paisley Park so I am quite keen to go one day. A celebration of sorts does seem quite appealing but I know from working in the theatre industry that you need to market shows well. Its all about the marketing! Now personally seeing this does not make me jump to buy tickets because I saw a few of these bands at the Prince tribute show in London. The organisers need to realise that a Prince fan would have already been to one of the tributes either side of the Altantic and they need to offer something a bit more unique in order to justify the price tag. There's got to a be a limit as to how many times Prince fans will be to see Morris Day and The Time, The Revolution etc in the name of Prince....

From a business point of view they want to make sure they entice you during your pre Christmas spend as in January virtually no one puts shows on sale as people tend to spend in excess during December.

I think I will wait to see what pans out before committing to anything and timewise too - that's four days....They could have just announced a save the date with details and prices to follow but I am assuming that want to get as many advanced sales as possible and gauge interest in the event.

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Reply #111 posted 11/29/16 4:23am

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Iamtheorg said:

CandaceS said:

cool

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why would you post your real name publicly? thats not very sound

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Reply #112 posted 11/29/16 4:41am

MrNelson7

rogifan said:

gandorb said:

Do you really believe at these prices there are people on the fence who bought because the press release said limited supply? confused Anyway Londell tweeted:
L Londell McMillan (@LondellMcMillan) 11/28/16, 9:17 PM #PRINCE WAS ALWAYS MINDFUL OF HIS LOVING FANS AND COSTS 💜 #STAYTUNED
I have no idea what he means by "stay tuned". According to Londell himself he's not involved with the museum so I'm not sure why he's inserting himself. Unless PP is planning to offer cheaper options that will be announced soon? But his tweet makes it sound like he personally did something...

I'm getting tired of Londell. He's starting to feel like another shark in the tank.

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Reply #113 posted 11/29/16 5:00am

gandorb

rogifan said:[quote]

gandorb said:



rogifan said:


Genesia said:



Or don't sell out - which is the more likely scenario. lol



Press release says supply is limited so I'm guessing not that many 4-day passes were made available, otherwise why even mention that at all, especially at these prices?

It is a advertising gimmick to try to justify the high prices (e.g., you can be among the few elite if you buy these tickets but you better hurry to buy them soon before we run out).


Do you really believe at these prices there are people on the fence who bought because the press release said limited supply? confused

No I don't. I didn't suggest that it was an effective strategy. From the reaction here on the board, the entire marketing of this was a huge misfire.
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Reply #114 posted 11/29/16 5:05am

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W H A T I S T H I S M E S S ?

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Reply #115 posted 11/29/16 6:11am

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I never spent that much to see Prince, won't be spending it to see associated artists and tour the park.
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Reply #116 posted 11/29/16 6:29am

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DevotedPuppy said:



rogifan said:


XxAxX said:




this.



And? Prince isn't here so who would you want running it? Who else has experience running something like this besides Graceland?


Oh I don't know -- only hundreds of museums across the United States - for starters. rolleyes They should have incorporated it as a 501(c)3 not-for-profit* instead of an LLC.




*Just because a museum is not-for-profit doesn't mean it can't make a profit. It means the profit is reinvested in the museum to support its programs instead of being paid to shareholders.


-/I doubt Prince's plans for Paisley Park
included plans for a non-profit enity particular if he wanted to continue his charity work.
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Reply #117 posted 11/29/16 6:36am

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luv4u said:



thebiscuit said:


Ticket booked. If it's anything like the poster it'll be a respectful and tasteful affair. I'm seeing this is a bit of a purple pilgrimage to show respect and give thanks to the man who gave me so much over the last 27 years. It's expensive, but for me, it's worth it. PS- I live in South Africa.

Wow! eek


/-Why wow Prince had fans all over the world some travelled 1000's of miles to see him multiple times. People will come to this event from other parts of the world. This reminds me of the Musicolgy tour and all the negativity when that was announced.
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Reply #118 posted 11/29/16 6:58am

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Mumio said:

Really don't see the big deal given how many performers are going to be there and the other things that go with the cost. Why do people think that those who've performed with Prince in the past think those people should do this for free or short money? I don't think it's too much to ask for since most people who go on vacation every year probably spend a couple thousand anyway. So why the angst? It's the same on FB, people saying "oh, I paid $250 for a week of performances by Prince back in 2002". Seriously? These things aren't comparable and no one is gonna pay any amount of money ever again to see Prince live so a ridiculous comparison imo. Take it or leave it...but damn, it's tiresome to see his fans bitching constantly about everything being done to keep PP operational. Would you all be happy if it closed down and had to be sold because people didn't want to pay to support the cost? People don't really think the family should foot the bill, do they? How else will the doors stay open? People need to get a grip and stop complaining all the time about everything. Sorry to rant, but I'm tired of this same scenario played over and over and over.

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Reply #119 posted 11/29/16 7:13am

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Iamtheorg said:

why would you post your real name publicly? thats not very sound


LOL, I've been using my real name here for 12 years. And I use my full name on FB. The real question is, why do u feel the need to hide behind a moniker? hmmm

BTW, still waiting to hear why u think I'm a fool. lol

thebiscuit said:

Ticket booked. If it's anything like the poster it'll be a respectful and tasteful affair. I'm seeing this is a bit of a purple pilgrimage to show respect and give thanks to the man who gave me so much over the last 27 years. It's expensive, but for me, it's worth it. PS- I live in South Africa.


Cool! Just ignore anyone here who calls you a fool, lol wink

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