If u can please tell me the funk chords in the middle part!

thechronic2 said:

Weren't u "TheChronic" a while ago, the one bragging how good u are at guitar and how u kicked Prince's ass on guitar. why then can't u just figure out the part with ya ear? it will help in the long run too man.

thechronic2 said:

Could you be more specific regarding what section of the tune you're concerned with (ex. during second chorus, after 3rd verse, etc.) as there are slight variations in the patterns. Also, there are different inversions of an Am7 chord being used in the left and right channels.
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Jem said:

OH DAMN!

Jem said:

I don't play by ear...I am classicaly trained.....the only dumb people who can't read music play by ear

theAudience said:

after he says now dance 2:31 seconds into the song and plays all that funky shit
[This message was edited Sun Apr 25 12:45:05 2004 by thechronic2]

thechronic2 said:

i don't play guitar, but i do have perfect pitch. sounds to me like an A minor 7 with the E and G (which is the 7th) alternating back and forth. and then G A C A (notes) the first time round, and then G A C G A C (notes) second time through.

--gm--

thechronic2 said:

From one semi-dumb guitarist to one who is "classicaly trained":

As I said earlier, there are two different parts being played in the left vs right channels.

Channel one: basically an octave with 4th in the middle
G/C/G (G string, 12th fret/B string, 13th fret/E string, 15th fret)

Channel two: moving 2 note pattern
C/A (E string, 8th fret/B string, 10th fret)
G/E (E string, 3rd fret/B string, 5th fret)
A/E (E string, 5th fret/B string, 5th fret)

As there is currently no I,C,P&C music to "read", that's what I "hear".
The rhythm should be obvious.

Btw, Wes Montgomery, Erroll Garner, George Benson and Jimmy Smith (among others) played by ear. I can only hope that my playing could be as "dumb" as theirs.

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theAudience said:

damn good work Audience.

--gm--

GeneMohawk said:

Thanks --gm--.
Those years of doing arrangements for Top 40 cover bands turned out to be good for something.

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thechronic2 said:

Ha, ur telling me that the great composers could not play by ear! shit man, u have some learning to do.

Classically trained is the worst excuse I've ever heard man. sorry

theAudience said:

thanks dude...i appreciate it....keep practicing and maybe one day u will be as good AS ME!

dont mind the chronic ya'll

Developing a good ear is widely reguarded as being the most important part in music development.


Heres a little peice of an article from Steve Vai

"Your ears are the most important thing to develop,more than technique,more than chops,more than knowing theory,more than anything. There are a lot of great players who don't know anything about scales or chords they just know what sounds good.
"From developing your ear comes the connection between your inner ear and your heart,your soul and the notes that come out of your instrument.Take someone like Wes Montgomery;if you ask him to play an Am7b5 chord he wouldn't have a clue what you're talking about,but once he'd heard it he'd be able to play it like he's always known the chord. These guys pick up whatever they hear immediatley."

I think that speaks for its self really.

richierich said:

I was gonna go into that one, as a drum teacher, I can tell you that theory just helps you understand it all better, its your ears & your soul that truely make good music

cloud9mission said:

Well I play guitar and theory is very usefull as it helps you understand the language of music like why things work and so on,instead of figuring every last thing out yourself over years other musicians have documented there progress in what effect has become theory.But I struggle to think how someone could be that good of a musician without a good ear for figuring out what sounds good,sometimes you get music and it isnt always printed correctly or whatever and you would end up playing it wrong as a result. Also if there is no availible music books for the required peice you wish to play how will you go about it,this is how music is written often musicians work it out by ear transcribe it into notation for books magazines etc. I would also like to add that people that boast about being great at playing this or that generally aint.

Wow!

You know what?
check this out about our "Mr. Chronic".....

http://hometown.aol.com/d...ofile.html


That pretty much explains it all.....

Ok bro....why don't you post something?







Jshua



Now, can we get back to the business of being constructive? (said the dumb musician who only plays by ear! )
[This message was edited Mon Apr 26 8:11:51 2004 by Styles]

Styles said:

Styles said:

Well I went onto your site and if thats you playing guitar guitar ,your sure good for a unclassically trained player.

Concerning the Chronic's website....




---> Audience. I wish I could be as dumb as you!

richierich said:

Thanx bro!

Yeah, that's me on guitar and everything else--I'm kinda like a "one man band" deal....
You know, my thing is this; Everyone can learn from everyone else but there's no need
to put oneself over any other human being.

each one teach one, y'know?

its all good!





Jshua

Taureau said:

Anyone need a Full Farce...I mean Full Force double?



Thanks Taureau, but i'm sure you're pretty "dumb" yourself.
Welcome to the dummies club.
Hope you found some of those tunes you were looking for.
(left something for you on "The Chambers Brothers..." thread)
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Jem said:

Styles said:

"...no one dared disturb the sound of silence."

Great Bust
(there's always one in every crowd)

This does remind me of an old guitar player joke (i'm sure you've heard it).

How do you get a guitar player to turn down?

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theAudience said:

Cheers mate, I'll be abusing the works IT department tomorrow

Styles said:

Yep, that's good old Chronic. That pic was in his profile when he was just thechronic here.

I think it's funny that we hear brag/brag/brag and put down after put down from Chronic, yet no music, ever.

Sytles is the king of self-taught/play by ear musicians on this site.

I wonder when we will get to hear Chronic's music?

cloud9mission said:

co-sign

VinaBlue said:

Probably when some "dumb" musician creates it for him. Just a guess.
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What exactly is classically trained I'm unsure.What is the concept of it and how does it not involve using your ears ,is it purely reading notataion and nothing else,if so I'd want my money back. I mean in some of the theory I've learned say intervals for example you learn to recognise how many steps apart the notes are,if you didnt use your ears how would you do this. How could you tell if a chord was major minor etc,all the books in the world in going to teach you that stuff.