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Thread started 04/12/04 9:02am

babar141

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MUsicianS

what r u using 2 composing ur music, meaning Computer cubase or what?
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Reply #1 posted 04/12/04 9:16am

Styles

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All of my stuff is striaght analog played to a click track, mixed in digital and mastered in digital..



peace



Jshua
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Reply #2 posted 04/12/04 9:22am

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Styles said:

All of my stuff is striaght analog played to a click track, mixed in digital and mastered in digital..



peace



Jshua

I have a PC with Platenem sound card, but got problebs with a delay thing so im think mabe ill scrap recording on the Pc, what is the next thing i can buy to compose my music?
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Reply #3 posted 04/12/04 9:43am

Heavenly

Cubase SX2 with lots of VST instruments and sampler programs.

Don't give up your PC, just buy a good sound card.
A good and reasonably priced sound card is the Audiophile 24/96, by M-Audio. The sound is good, there's no delay and it works great.
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Reply #4 posted 04/12/04 9:49am

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Heavenly said:

Cubase SX2 with lots of VST instruments and sampler programs.

Don't give up your PC, just buy a good sound card.
A good and reasonably priced sound card is the Audiophile 24/96, by M-Audio. The sound is good, there's no delay and it works great.

But i thought the SoundBlaster Platuim was the best soundcard, it came with a front pannel audio inputs and midi and stuff!
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Reply #5 posted 04/12/04 10:01am

Heavenly

babar141 said:

Heavenly said:

Cubase SX2 with lots of VST instruments and sampler programs.

Don't give up your PC, just buy a good sound card.
A good and reasonably priced sound card is the Audiophile 24/96, by M-Audio. The sound is good, there's no delay and it works great.

But i thought the SoundBlaster Platuim was the best soundcard, it came with a front pannel audio inputs and midi and stuff!

I had that card a few years ago. no, it's definitely not the best. not even close. SoundBlaster never really made good cards for musicians, even though they claim otherwise. I had nothing but frustration from SoundBlaster's sound cards.
M-Audio are good and the price is not high. I have 2 of them, one for the desktop and one for the laptop. the sound is great, no delay, and the price is right.
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Reply #6 posted 04/12/04 10:10am

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I found this article to be very helpful in getting the most out of my system. http://www.prosoundweb.co...m/pc.shtml

The section on "Optimizing your system" is especially helpful. http://www.prosoundweb.co...pc_7.shtml

This article was posted by Mr.Blues a while back. The old link is no longer available. I printed it out, but I'm not sure if I saved it. It was on 1 page instead of several so it was easier to work with. Hope this helps.
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Reply #7 posted 04/12/04 10:39am

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Tascam has a new 24-track digital workstation out that looks to be THA BOMB.

http://www.tascam.com/pdf/2488.pdf

- 24-track, 24-bit, 36-channel Digital Portastudio
- 3-band EQ on 24 channels, 8-inputs, tone generator and stereo bus with high and low sweepable shelving bands and full parametric mid band
- Three aux sends on all channels except the effects return
- Loop effect provides reverb, delay, chorus and more on an aux send and return
- Assignable Guitar multi-effects processor for distortion, chorus, delay, flange and more
- Up to eight assignable dynamics processors for compression during recording or mixdown
- Dedicated Stereo Compressor on the stereo output
- Eight inputs: 4 XLR with phantom power double as 1/4" mic/line inputs, plus four dedicated 1/4" mic/line inputs
- Twenty 45mm faders including master fader
- LCD display for viewing meters and edit parameters
- CD-RW drive to record Red Book CDs, import/export WAV files and backup hard drive
- 64-voice General MIDI sound module
- Standard MIDI File player
- High-speed USB 2.0 jack connects to PC or MacĀ® for data backup and SMF/WAV file


And hell yes I would buy that if I had the clams. And a paying gig. But then again, right now, I have no use for my 10 tracks that I DO have, so, another 14 wouldn't make sense - except for that whole, 8-in thing.

WOW.
The Last Otan Track: www.funkmusician.com/what.mp3
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Reply #8 posted 04/12/04 11:26am

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Heavenly said:

babar141 said:


But i thought the SoundBlaster Platuim was the best soundcard, it came with a front pannel audio inputs and midi and stuff!

I had that card a few years ago. no, it's definitely not the best. not even close. SoundBlaster never really made good cards for musicians, even though they claim otherwise. I had nothing but frustration from SoundBlaster's sound cards.
M-Audio are good and the price is not high. I have 2 of them, one for the desktop and one for the laptop. the sound is great, no delay, and the price is right.
Thanks People 4 the help!! So what M-Audio card r u using then ?????
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Reply #9 posted 04/12/04 12:39pm

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otan said:

Tascam has a new 24-track digital workstation out that looks to be THA BOMB.

And hell yes I would buy that if I had the clams. And a paying gig. But then again, right now, I have no use for my 10 tracks that I DO have, so, another 14 wouldn't make sense - except for that whole, 8-in thing.

WOW.


The Tribal Disorder link below (next to the peace sign) is a work in progress being done on the 2488.
Keep in mind that you'll be hearing an mp3 file and not the 24-bit audio.

Tracks were sequenced in Sonar and a stereo mix was transferred to 2 tracks of the 2488.
The temp guitar track was recorded in stereo, from a J-Station, directly into another 2 tracks of the 2488.

For the price, the 2488 is "THA BOMB".
*(inside info for guitarists - you'd be wise to have outboard effects)

peace Tribal Disorder
"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
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Reply #10 posted 04/12/04 12:58pm

Heavenly

babar141 said:

Heavenly said:


I had that card a few years ago. no, it's definitely not the best. not even close. SoundBlaster never really made good cards for musicians, even though they claim otherwise. I had nothing but frustration from SoundBlaster's sound cards.
M-Audio are good and the price is not high. I have 2 of them, one for the desktop and one for the laptop. the sound is great, no delay, and the price is right.
Thanks People 4 the help!! So what M-Audio card r u using then ?????

on my desktop I'm using the Audiophile 24/96.
On my laptop I'm using the FW-410.
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Reply #11 posted 04/12/04 1:21pm

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I think the 2488 is definitely for somebody looking to use a real recorder, not a home workstation... it's got effect send/receives, which most workstations don't have, because of the built-in effects.
The Last Otan Track: www.funkmusician.com/what.mp3
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Reply #12 posted 04/12/04 4:18pm

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I'm using cubase SX, Reason and a PC with on-board sound now. I'm going to buy a new audio board as soon as I have some money to spend, not because of audio sync problems (which I only rarely experience a little) but just because of sound quality. It'll probably be an M-Audio. A friend is using it and it's great.
I used to have Ensoniq Paris Pro in the days I had a recording studio, which was really top-class. It had 6 DSP chips, hardware controller with faders and shuttle and eq controls and such, works on mac and pc, very versatile software patch bay (making connection to external effects a breeze), top-notch 24 bit AD/DA converters, powerful easy to use and fast software etc. Sadly, Paris is discontinued....
Before paris I used a tascam B16 16-track 1'' recorder. It sounded great, but it became a bit too expensive to maintain. It got some problems which were expensive to fix (heads and breaks got worn out. The heads were only available 2nd hand and still very expensive). But I do miss the analog sound sometimes, especially when recording drums. But only for the sound. Analog recording is a hell of a lot of a hassle compared to digital recording IMHO.
I gave up on the studio so I sold Paris, since 20 inputs + 20 outputs is kind of overkill for a home set-up.
[This message was edited Mon Apr 12 16:26:25 2004 by erikd]
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Reply #13 posted 04/13/04 1:23am

Heavenly

erikd said:

I'm using cubase SX, Reason and a PC with on-board sound now. I'm going to buy a new audio board as soon as I have some money to spend, not because of audio sync problems (which I only rarely experience a little) but just because of sound quality. It'll probably be an M-Audio. A friend is using it and it's great.
I used to have Ensoniq Paris Pro in the days I had a recording studio, which was really top-class. It had 6 DSP chips, hardware controller with faders and shuttle and eq controls and such, works on mac and pc, very versatile software patch bay (making connection to external effects a breeze), top-notch 24 bit AD/DA converters, powerful easy to use and fast software etc. Sadly, Paris is discontinued....
Before paris I used a tascam B16 16-track 1'' recorder. It sounded great, but it became a bit too expensive to maintain. It got some problems which were expensive to fix (heads and breaks got worn out. The heads were only available 2nd hand and still very expensive). But I do miss the analog sound sometimes, especially when recording drums. But only for the sound. Analog recording is a hell of a lot of a hassle compared to digital recording IMHO.
I gave up on the studio so I sold Paris, since 20 inputs + 20 outputs is kind of overkill for a home set-up.
[This message was edited Mon Apr 12 16:26:25 2004 by erikd]


I've never had a chance to use Paris, only heard of it. But back then I was using ProTools, which was a 20k system and sounded good.
I also used Tascam 16 Tracks 1" reel to reel machine, and yes, analog sound does have it's charms. What I might suggest is, if you work with digital now, just dump it to a 2 track 1/4" analog reel and back to the computer. I've tried that in the studio, and it does bring some of that analog sound back.
M-Audio is good, and the price is right. The work great with Cubase and I'm sure with other programs too (which reminds me that I should try the new logic, since I haven't worked on it for 10 years now). Some of their cards only work with WinXP/2000 or Mac OSX systems, so make sure thei're compatible for your system. I tried installing win98 on my laptop and found out later there's no driver for win98 with my FW-410 sound card, so back it was to winXP.
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Reply #14 posted 04/14/04 9:38am

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Heavenly said:

erikd said:

I'm using cubase SX, Reason and a PC with on-board sound now. I'm going to buy a new audio board as soon as I have some money to spend, not because of audio sync problems (which I only rarely experience a little) but just because of sound quality. It'll probably be an M-Audio. A friend is using it and it's great.
I used to have Ensoniq Paris Pro in the days I had a recording studio, which was really top-class. It had 6 DSP chips, hardware controller with faders and shuttle and eq controls and such, works on mac and pc, very versatile software patch bay (making connection to external effects a breeze), top-notch 24 bit AD/DA converters, powerful easy to use and fast software etc. Sadly, Paris is discontinued....
Before paris I used a tascam B16 16-track 1'' recorder. It sounded great, but it became a bit too expensive to maintain. It got some problems which were expensive to fix (heads and breaks got worn out. The heads were only available 2nd hand and still very expensive). But I do miss the analog sound sometimes, especially when recording drums. But only for the sound. Analog recording is a hell of a lot of a hassle compared to digital recording IMHO.
I gave up on the studio so I sold Paris, since 20 inputs + 20 outputs is kind of overkill for a home set-up.
[This message was edited Mon Apr 12 16:26:25 2004 by erikd]


I've never had a chance to use Paris, only heard of it. But back then I was using ProTools, which was a 20k system and sounded good.
I also used Tascam 16 Tracks 1" reel to reel machine, and yes, analog sound does have it's charms. What I might suggest is, if you work with digital now, just dump it to a 2 track 1/4" analog reel and back to the computer. I've tried that in the studio, and it does bring some of that analog sound back.
M-Audio is good, and the price is right. The work great with Cubase and I'm sure with other programs too (which reminds me that I should try the new logic, since I haven't worked on it for 10 years now). Some of their cards only work with WinXP/2000 or Mac OSX systems, so make sure thei're compatible for your system. I tried installing win98 on my laptop and found out later there's no driver for win98 with my FW-410 sound card, so back it was to winXP.
Thank u musicians, i think im gonna get that Card from m-Audio Then.....
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