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question 4 music pros: Pro Tools vs. Logic/Reason? I'm sorry, since this question is off-topic, but what do all the music professionals on this board think of the music programmes Logic/Reason and ProTools? It seems as Pro Tools is the industry standard, so why should I go with Logic (which I could obtain for a third of it's original price)? Does anyone think that Logic is as good or even better than Pro Tools? Thanks! | |
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Pro tools is the best, nuff said. | |
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If you learn Pro Tools you can walk into any studio and be right at home...excluding a few bells and whistles.
Its just the best thing out thr and for the price you can't beat it. I use the digi02. You can here some stuff I did with it here http://www.Broadjam.com/cozmic [This message was edited Thu Apr 8 18:44:13 2004 by Littlewing] | |
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Littlewing said: If you learn Pro Tools you can walk into any studio and be right at home...excluding a few bells and whistles.
Also, since most studios have Pro Tools, you can send your tracks/automated effects in the format that other collaborators can use. | |
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blah blah blah Pro Tools blah blah oh gimme a break!
I use Pro Tools AND Logic and I find that Logic in terms of front end/automation and a tonne of other stuff I';m too complacent to type beats the pants off of Pro Tools. However U can't beat the pragmatic approach 2 the Digidesign counterpart. I just feel that with Logic, I can accomdate and integrate my setup with Logic with ease. It's all personal taste, the industry means S**t 2 me, it's about what works best for the occasion. When my band recently recorded with Gordon Raphael (The Strokes), he used Pro Tools however, subsequently the master files were taken mixed and had additional recordings undertaken in Logic when it got in2 my hands. I'm off 2 bed! 'dre Tried many flavours - but sooner or later, always go back to the Purple Kool-aid!
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I use neither one of them... and I STILL get it done.
I found Pro Tools too damn difficult to work with, and after trying it on two different machines -- and having it not work very well -- went back to Cakewalk Sonar. The only thing I need a studio to do is produce a master. I see no reason to even try Reason. | |
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It's true that a lot of studios use ProTools so that might be a reason to go for it. However, when I'm in the studio as a musician, I don't *want* to worry about the engineering stuff. That's what I pay the engineer for.
You can still get the raw recordings out of ProTools and import it in whatever program you like to use. I use Cubase SX myself, mostly because I use Cubase since version 1 on Atari ST so I got so much used to it that they'd have to pry it out of my dead cold hands . I also used Ensoniq Paris a lot back in my studio engineer days, and it rocks. It had the best a/d converters I ever heard. It was a lower cost alternative to ProTools and it even surpassed it in some ways. Very versatile and very easy to use. I don't know if they still sell it though. Whatever software you're going to use, be sure you get top class audio inputs. I'm now using just the on board soundchip atm and I absolutely need a new sound board when I got the money... It's more important than the software you use (as long as you use good software of course ) Reason seems a bit off topic to me. It's a midi set-up in software. I use it a lot lately and I like it very much and it integrates nicely with cubase. "Give a monkey a brain and he'll swear he's the center of the universe" (Fishbone)
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I prefer Pro-tools. I use mostly analog instruments so I don't have much opinion on all the digital effects, & midi stuff. I like it cuz it looks, feels, & functions like a old school tape studio. I just recently mixed my ep to 2 inch tape from Pro-tools & it was simple. So I think I've found my way of working. I'm not a big digital recording guy, but for the editing, and creative flow it seems like Pro-Tools gets the an artists idea. Plus being a bay area guy, I know alot of the digidesign support guys.
Nero erikd said: It's true that a lot of studios use ProTools so that might be a reason to go for it. However, when I'm in the studio as a musician, I don't *want* to worry about the engineering stuff. That's what I pay the engineer for.
You can still get the raw recordings out of ProTools and import it in whatever program you like to use. I use Cubase SX myself, mostly because I use Cubase since version 1 on Atari ST so I got so much used to it that they'd have to pry it out of my dead cold hands . I also used Ensoniq Paris a lot back in my studio engineer days, and it rocks. It had the best a/d converters I ever heard. It was a lower cost alternative to ProTools and it even surpassed it in some ways. Very versatile and very easy to use. I don't know if they still sell it though. Whatever software you're going to use, be sure you get top class audio inputs. I'm now using just the on board soundchip atm and I absolutely need a new sound board when I got the money... It's more important than the software you use (as long as you use good software of course ) Reason seems a bit off topic to me. It's a midi set-up in software. I use it a lot lately and I like it very much and it integrates nicely with cubase. | |
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I'm with Julian on this one. I prefer Cakewalk Sonar as well. I have used Cakewalk since 3.0 and it is a great app to use, especially if u want 2 keep it simple in terms of learning how 2 use it. | |
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let me try and see what I can give:
ProTools is considered the best. First, because of it's power. it comes with it's own cards that has plenty of DSP and can take away some of the pressure off of your computer. Digidesign work with Focusrite on their sound cards/converters and therefore you know you get top quality sound. I personally love ProTools when it comes to recording. But - when it comes to producing music, I prefer either Cubase or Logic. ProTools is mainly for people who come from sound engineering, and Cubase and Logic (or Cakewalk for that matter) is for musicians. I find ProTools very friendly, but I'm guessing most of it is because I'm a sound engineer, and I find in ProTools everything I'm used to finding on a console/tape machine, and it works the way analog equipment works. Other programs are very different, and only now starting to copy some of ProTools' stuff when it comes to mixing your music (automation, plugins, routing and so on). When it comes to Reason, best leave it as a sound module. BTW, I don't think it can record audio anyway, but then again, I never looked for that option in Reason. I just control it through Cubase. | |
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