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Thread started 01/17/04 12:26pm

artist08

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More new songs!!

I just added two more new songs to my Soundclick page - Get Complicated! and Autonomous Man. Feel free to check 'em out and make comments. Some sections are still a little rough, but I figured I'd get some feedback from you guys. (I know there's some bad harmonies in AM) While you're there you can also join the guitar vs. keyboards debate on "the very first." Place your vote! Thanks.
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Reply #1 posted 01/17/04 2:50pm

Taureau

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Haven't checked out your songs for some time, sorry man! I think you're right about autonomous man (the harmonies!)...I don't know if it's because your main voice is out of key, or whether its the synth effect that makes it strange. Hard to say, and I'm not technically minded enough to give a professional diagnosis sorry!
I love your ideas with the chorus effect guitar and delayed solo fills.

Now Get Complicated...MAN! I LOOOVE THIS!!! Great mix of vocals, and rythm! It might be cool to have the drums very a bit, funk it up a bit more?

I'll check out the very first soon!
jerkoff.....drool BULLSEYE! cool
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Reply #2 posted 01/17/04 3:42pm

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thanks, T! yep, I've gotta spend some time on those vox.
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Reply #3 posted 01/17/04 6:50pm

psykosoul

sounds really good. Get Complicated reminds me of cross between Aerosmith and Lenny Kravitz. Do you have a vault of your own? You seems to be poppin out new tunes everyday.
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Reply #4 posted 01/17/04 8:55pm

artist08

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Nope...every OTHER day.
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Reply #5 posted 01/18/04 1:13pm

artist08

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hmmm...how do these emoticons work?
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Reply #6 posted 01/18/04 3:12pm

Taureau

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collon, code, collon!

e.g. ': music :', or without spaces, 'music'!
jerkoff.....drool BULLSEYE! cool
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Reply #7 posted 01/18/04 3:43pm

artist08

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3way
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Reply #8 posted 01/18/04 3:44pm

artist08

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Yes! A three-way!
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Reply #9 posted 01/18/04 4:08pm

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"Get ..." sounds very Aerosmith meets "Jem"."Auto..." sounds like Dream Academy in flavor with all of the textures. How are u getting the clarity in your recordings? I like the indian influence guitar in my right ear on that track. Keep up the good work. It's good 2 see somebody getting some work done.
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Reply #10 posted 01/18/04 9:24pm

artist08

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I'll have to give credit to my Zoom mrs-1044. Otan will second the recommendation.
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Reply #11 posted 01/18/04 10:39pm

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artist08 said:

Yes! A three-way!


falloff
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Reply #12 posted 01/18/04 10:42pm

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Ok, now on to your music music

Wow! Great screams on Get Complicated. This reminds me of Pearl Jam, but more psychedelic. I can't think of who else you remind me of on this track, somebody cool, lol. Love the handclaps.

Autonomous Man is really beautiful. Love the effects on the guitar and keyboards. I agree with Tal, LOVE the guitar on the right. I don't think the harmonies are off really, it's just a eastern influence. It has a dissonance that works, and it reminds me of some Purple Rain score music. I can TOTALLY hear some Wendy&Lisa background vocals on this...
batting eyes


These two tracks are your best work, IMO.

woot!
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Reply #13 posted 01/19/04 7:59am

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These two tracks are your best work, IMO.

woot![/quote]

Awww...shucks, m'aam. (sheepishly)
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Reply #14 posted 01/19/04 8:26am

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VinaBlue said:

Ok, now on to your music music

Wow! Great screams on Get Complicated. This reminds me of Pearl Jam, but more psychedelic. I can't think of who else you remind me of on this track, somebody cool, lol. Love the handclaps.

Autonomous Man is really beautiful. Love the effects on the guitar and keyboards. I agree with Tal, LOVE the guitar on the right. I don't think the harmonies are off really, it's just a eastern influence. It has a dissonance that works, and it reminds me of some Purple Rain score music. I can TOTALLY hear some Wendy&Lisa background vocals on this...
batting eyes


These two tracks are your best work, IMO.

woot!


Oh, W&L background vox...I see! You can add vox anytime. Let me know how we can do it.
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Reply #15 posted 01/19/04 10:48am

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Get Complicated is nice, catchy. Everything is clear on this song man. Good job
[This message was edited Mon Jan 19 10:48:43 PST 2004 by paisleypark4]
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #16 posted 01/19/04 7:12pm

artist08

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Thanks, Izaiah!
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Reply #17 posted 01/20/04 2:19pm

Styles

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Hey Artist08

I dig Get Complicated but I really dig Autonomous Man!


nice stuff!

peace


Jshua
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Reply #18 posted 01/20/04 5:36pm

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Thanks, Styles! I appreciate the compliment!
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Reply #19 posted 01/21/04 1:07pm

artist08

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Get Complicated! #17 on alt rock. Otan, here's a milk carton with your pic on it...
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Reply #20 posted 01/21/04 2:22pm

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artist08 said:

Get Complicated! #17 on alt rock. Otan, here's a milk carton with your pic on it...


oooh. was that a diss? omg
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #21 posted 01/21/04 2:37pm

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paisleypark4 said:

artist08 said:

Get Complicated! #17 on alt rock. Otan, here's a milk carton with your pic on it...


oooh. was that a diss? omg




shhh I don;t think he's noticed yet!
jerkoff.....drool BULLSEYE! cool
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Reply #22 posted 01/21/04 2:46pm

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paisleypark4 said:

artist08 said:

Get Complicated! #17 on alt rock. Otan, here's a milk carton with your pic on it...


oooh. was that a diss? omg


No diss, just wondering where the hell he's been. MIA!!
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Reply #23 posted 01/21/04 4:33pm

Red

Congrats Artboy...Get Complicated is GREAT! Love it, dancing to it..singin it. Great NRG. Best 2 date...well...IMHO.
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Reply #24 posted 01/21/04 4:51pm

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Red said:

Congrats Artboy...Get Complicated is GREAT! Love it, dancing to it..singin it. Great NRG. Best 2 date...well...IMHO.


Hey, thanks, Red!! That's quite a compliment!
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Reply #25 posted 01/22/04 4:16pm

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artist08 said:

paisleypark4 said:

artist08 said:

Get Complicated! #17 on alt rock. Otan, here's a milk carton with your pic on it...


oooh. was that a diss? omg


No diss, just wondering where the hell he's been. MIA!!

Work is kicking my ass. The wife is pregnant again! Excellent! I didn't need all this free time anyhow.

Get Complicated: I dig the song. But.
you knew it was coming. you wanted it. you know you did

I continually listen to my stuff, (and yours - it sounds like it's on par with my stuff - guitar/drum/bass/vocals - rock-driven-funk) and I ask myself, "okay, I've got this killer song, recorded. All the parts are there. Why does this sound like a demo, and a real song sounds like a real song?"

A LOT of times, I think it's two things: The EQ and the performance. Take this song.

The drums are SUPER bright. In fact, everything is super bright. That's the way the Zoom is set up. Lately, I'm turning the high eq down on almost every track, trying to "muddy" it up a little bit.

Second - the performance. The riff-guitars - if you're up to it, try going back and tightening up the HELL out of those guitars - down to muting the strings between riffs, instead of just letting it ring.

Ditto with the bass - it's groovy in some spots, but I wonder if you tightened it up in other areas, would that snap the song into shape?

The lead guitar - it tends to ramble a little too much all over everything, and is SUPER tinny - which could be cool if you exported the entire track (via takewave) reversed the WHOLE DAMN THING, then imported it back into the Zoom. Viola: Reverse guitar solo to "whaaa" it all up.

(yes I know I wrote Viola)

Lastly - double up the screamer vocals - SUPER TIGHT - do a phrase at a time, so you nail it exactly. Your voice on those parts sounds EXACTLY like Def Lepperd boy, so, if you doubled the vocals, you'd be right on the money.

As usual, it's all my personal opines on this, and it's up to you. I'm super bummed that I haven't recorded a single song in over 5 months - too much shit to do between keeping the missus happy, the boy happy, the OTHER boy happy, and playing live.

But hey, I set a goal to put together my damn solo CD - at least a coherent demo to give to some heads around here for feedback. If they like it, then I'll pursue the real thing. Otherwise, I'll just resolve to being a critic.

Like the other song, but gotta get milk for the boy, so, there's the priorities...
The Last Otan Track: www.funkmusician.com/what.mp3
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Reply #26 posted 01/22/04 4:30pm

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You sound like a busy guy! Awww, who needs music anyway? Lol! Yeah, I have no idea how to EQ shit at all (in case you haven't noticed). I have no idea why I get this certain buzz, etc. on some songs. I just pick one of those "mastering" settings and play with the knobs. As for getting everything super-tight - I usually never bother (as I'm sure you've noticed, also) because I know that this is kind of just a demo. I wouldn't put this on a CD and try to sell it to someone...yet. I just have the same drum beats going over and over again because I'm too lazy to program the whole song. I just figure that eventually I'll go into a studio with some kick-ass musicians and everything will totally rock. Wishful thinking, huh? I wish someone would show me how to improve with the whole mixing/mastering thing. Thanks for your feedback - you always offer good ideas and, since we use the same recorder, you know what I'm dealing with here. Congrats on the new addition! Name him/her Prince Beau II.
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Reply #27 posted 01/25/04 3:20pm

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yo man im new to the org and think your shit is some of the best so far...im just glad your not pushing that jesus freak shit...god damn i hate that...lets just make music and make love ...

peace,love,empathy
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Reply #28 posted 01/26/04 8:38pm

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Hey, artist o8. Reminds me a bit of ween meets john spencer. good shtuff.

zach
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www.soundclick.com/burlyus
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Reply #29 posted 01/26/04 8:51pm

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Thanks mase and zach. I appreciate the feedback!
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