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Dealing with some heavy issues lately, odd things going on round here, so I just let the tape roll, (umm, disc spin, I spose) and opened up my soul and performed an excorcism.

Nothing but me a bass and a guitar and a drum machine. If you like Hendrix, or Sign Of the Times (the song) then this might do it for you.

Oh - AND I RECORDED IT USING MY CLOUD GUITAR!

Okay. No. Not really. My Telecaster. But Holy Mother of Pearloid Pickguards, this thing WAILED. Sounds like I'm breaking through my problems at around 4:15 there. Makes my head spin.

Wow, this is one heavy guitar workout!

I don't know what kind of problems you are facing but you sure are "turning those demons loose" on this one. The Hendrix/SOTT comparison is right on spot. Heavy sound, man!

Absolutely loved it! I'm sure you're possessed by my avatar! You gotta tell me exactly how you get that sound man... ah screw it, 3 weeks till pay-day...I gotta start another thread!

I love guitar, such a sexy instrument.

Look what u did Otan, u just gave me ur demons and know i'm gonna have to release some

Whoooa - Forte - Virtuoso - think Jimi was trying to come thru. Pretty dayum good Beau.

otan said:

Ah man, I was waiting for you to sing some crazy shit! Nice track, but you know what it needs, right?





KEYBOARDS! :TEASE:



Just kiddin'. You're right, it does sound very SOTT, like a jam from that era. Music is the best way to release your demons. Well, that and a little ... Pardon me, I just woke up.

As for 4:00-5:00...

MaggotBrain said:

Eddie Hazel? Or Jimi? I can't make it out, but I guess it's Eddie...

MaggotBrain said:

Tele
Vox Crybaby wah
directly into my MRS1044:
- Very mild compression
- UK Crunch distortion on about 9 (out of 30)
- tone at 8 (out of 10)
- a slow deep chorus

But the secret ingredient is long slow the decaying delay - it's got a very analog feel to it. I added it after the fact. Most of the workout was at full volume, but I roll it back occasionally for the less howling parts.

So, the most expensive part in the chain is the Cloud guitar... I mean, my Telecaster.

ALSO - I just got this bass -the OLP Stingray 5 string - $130. I kid you not. $130.

Thanks y'all.

funkaholic1972 said:

Sorry it isn't very clear...it's Eddie!

MaggotBrain said:

Yeah. I don't think Jimi ever wore such a pimptastic outfit... he was more into Gypsies than Pimps.

otan said:

Hey Otan did you use an amp for this or was it literally geetar>pedal>MRS1044 ??? Sorry if this is a crap question!

MaggotBrain said:

It was direct. The MRS has a great amp simulator if you know how to tweak it. Now when I mic my guitar amp I get very depressed. I don't know the engineering secrets to miking an amp... everytime I do it, I get very frustrated with the results.

I'm discovering that any instrument's individual sound, (when you listen JUST to that instrument outside of the total mix) is deceptive. If I get a GREAT sound on my guitar and then record, a lot of times, it ends up muddy because I put so much sound spectrum into that one instrument (good solid bottom, rich mids, crystal highs) that it doesn't leave any room for any other instruments.

I'm discovering that you have to intentionally leave shit out on one instrument to have it come through on the other. That's the secret to AMATEUR engineering/mixing*. When I was recording in a real studio, I remember thinking "the engineer is getting ASS from my amp, and he thinks that will work?" and then when he mixed it all together, everything fit together nicely like a puzzle. It's a bitch.

* of course my entire explanation doesn't account for legendary recordings like Voodoo Chile or Scuttle Buttin or Zap, where holy crap the guitar is AWESOME and everything is perfect. That's what you pay somebody the BIG bucks for.

hay boy!

The guitar is DOPE! Damn that electrik guitar! The beat is fresh. Ur a wonderful original artist.

U really are letting out sum anger out on this track! That guitar is crying man! I can understand the soul and emotion that u are putting on that thing! It is beggin 4 4givness and showin us that it is sorry! LOL!
[This message was edited Wed Oct 8 9:22:35 PDT 2003 by paisleypark4]

damn, well. i didn't know otan played so good.

I can't play a 5 minutes guitar solo without boring myself. ;F

this Nilla can

7salles said:

Thanks. It's all a cracker can do to keep from throwing on some Pat Boone.

After listening to this thing for 30 times today, it's wearing me out now. I love parts of it, but other stuff is just pulling the bone, if ya know what I mean. Maybe I'll cut it up and put together some sort of instrumental with a melody line and all that shit. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe not.

otan said:

u always try 2 change yo funk, always...just leave it alone man! Emotion is captured, and it is real. But hey, sum of ur "remixes" that u worked over sounded better, so what the funk?

Beau,

Disclaimer:
You're a better guitarist than I am and sound is all about personal choices.

IMO:
Less effects really keeps a guitar tone real. I like hearing the guitar tone in all its glory.

I just love the instrument and even if you are a cracker, you've got some soul, that's for damn sure.

Slave2daGroove said:

so you're saying, I should USE less effects, or you're saying, by my USING less effects, I've made the tone better? I agree with you - too many effects can kill a guitar tone. But, in some cases, the effects help put the guitar in the right frame of mind. Korn for instance. If they played that crazy stuff with just straight-into-Marshall tone, it wouldn't have the depth that it does (I'm talking old Korn - Peachy, Follow the Leader).

Right, I'm gonna get my ass beaten, but a guy must know...

...where does the term 'cracker(ing)' come from? Aint heard it before other than those I put cheese on and eat with cucumber slices before scones and tea. Don't bust a groove over this, I is thick wiv a capital F.

I'm with 7salles, I can't hold a solo for more than two bars. And I call myself Maggot Brain.

The term "Crackering" originates from the latin root "Cracker" meaning, "too white for whitey". It was first used way back in October 3rd, 2003 by Beau Hall, taking the noun Cracker and verbing it up.

What, you got a problem with the way I speak a little talking?

Go back and listen to my solo. It's the same 4 passages played and pieced together differently each time, alternating the wah wah differently. I'm not what you call "well versed" in my solos. After EVERY gig, I always say "damn I gotta learn more licks. These four get pretty damn tired after 4 hours". Ain't lying.

I don't know otan, i didnt analysed you solo very deeply, but it didnt bored me, it is what matters. There's lots of players that can play millions of licks and don't repeat any of them, but they still bore me. EXAMPLE: Metal melodic guitarrists. :p

that's my blacker not "cracker"...let the funk loose my funky ATLien

Can U set up two wah wah's at two different pitches and have them speak and respond the funk to each other?

Oh and Beau...was thinking 2day...as I sometimes do

As well as College Radio, perhaps pay some attention to internet radio. Span Radio..365...pick the top 10 and send 6 copies to each. I think Net Radio is going to BOOM...and new Artists will be a big part of it. You hear the song...can see the Artist's name in the window...link to bio and website...press here to buy. iTunes introduced me to netradio and I will never turn back.

Red said:

Well looky here! 2 points to Red for being all forward thinking! Brilliant.

otan said:

O.K. so what I mean is that sometimes too many effects take away from great guitar playing. We agree completely.

I've found that with recording into the computer is that it's hard not to add cool effects, different amp sounds and other things for texture. Just because it adds so much depth and the things one can do with the computer is unlimited.

Back to what I was trying to say; the tone of Hendrix's Marshall clean and Zeppelin's tone (even though it wasn't thru a Marshall), were both so raw and "pure" to me.

I showed my friend the Prince in Vegas dvd, then went to the new Zeppelin dvd and while the 2 aren't comparable in most cases, they both did the song Whole Lotta Love. Prince was all effects and delay while Zeppelin was raw energy with minimal effects.

Fuck, I don't know what I'm trying to say, except that I want to produce something on the computer that I can reproduce live in people's faces so they feel it.

I agree with you - I'm a purist most of the time.

HOWEVER.

When you consider Hendrix's chain - Wah, Octavia, Big Muff Pi, And some SERIOUS Echo, Rotovibe, Leslie or whatever else - some of his stuff is pure, and some is totally buried under subtle and not-so-subtle effects. Little Wing - good example. You think immediately - clean, pure. But nope. It's going through a rotovibe or some sort of phase shifter.

I've been doing the pure/clean tone for a long time, and lately I decided to start recording in the opposite direction of what I've been doing for the past 4 years... Not trying to go all Steve Stevens on it, but, start exploring a little more on the effects side, see what I can pull out.

And OH HOLY CRAP go listen to Robert Randolph's version of VOODOO CHILE. Lap Steel NEVER sounded like Hendrix.

otan said:

Great points. While Hendrix did use effects, I was thinking "Little Wing" but we are in complete agreement.

I downloaded a version of Voodoo Chile by Ben Harper (off of Kazaa or Napster or Limewire) and while it was a Hendrix song, I was just sitting there with my jaw on the floor. Again, slide guitar and his style with feedback was just mind-blowing.