VaultCurator said:

Trailer just appeared on the official Prince YouTube. https://youtu.be/nF5WzaIy0dM

GREAT ! Thankx!!

It'll be good to hear how Wendy & Lisa influenced this

billymeade said:

It'll be good to hear how Wendy & Lisa influenced this

beat me to it.

So glad to have them diving into a later record!

billymeade said:

The music we've heard is just okay. But I'm always interested in a story behind a song, even if the song is mediocre or bland. I ordered the album for collection purposes (I'm only buying new or SDE versions, not all that purple vinyl kitsch). And I'll listen with an open mind. But based on the title track...eeehhhhhh.

We'll see.

2010-2016 def some of Ps most uninspired work for sure. Although its gonna be great to hear all these tracks (some of which we've all heard) this period was filled with alot of filler tracks and alot of meh tracks...

I suspect the reason this was not released at the time is that there was no record company or even newspaper deal on the table because there are no great songs on the album.

Hope I'm wrong as I've ordered a copy of the vinyl.

iveivan said:

I suspect the reason this was not released at the time is that there was no record company or even newspaper deal on the table because there are no great songs on the album.

Hope I'm wrong as I've ordered a copy of the vinyl.

I was thinking that as well; He had exhausted (or pissed off, depending on who you ask!) all his release outlets. Then he went crawlin' back to WB...

iveivan said:

Not normally a fan of Prince doing cover versions (Although I love his version of One Of Us)

But i'm actually super hyped to hear his version of "Stand Up And Be Strong"

The chorus should sound great in his voice and the guitar work will hopefully be high in the mix

I was expecting Same Book and 1 Thousand Light Years to be different than we versions we have - but it doesn't sound like it from those clips?

Dandroppedadime said:

I was expecting Same Book and 1 Thousand Light Years to be different than we versions we have - but it doesn't sound like it from those clips?

I think "Same Page" is the same track, but "1000 Light Years" is similar but much longer than the bit added as a coda to "Black Muse"

Coda = 3:05

Full Length = 5:46

Marco81 said:

1000 light years fro here sounds quite different with added vocals, different instrumentation and no horns. Also, it sounds a bit slower than the HNR2 version.

The clip is definitely unfamiliar, but couldn't it just be from a different point in the song rather than a different version?

TrivialPursuit said:

The music we've heard is just okay. But I'm always interested in a story behind a song, even if the song is mediocre or bland. I ordered the album for collection purposes (I'm only buying new or SDE versions, not all that purple vinyl kitsch). And I'll listen with an open mind. But based on the title track...eeehhhhhh.

We'll see.

This is how I feel as well. I love hearing the behind-the-scenes making of a song, even if I don't particularly like a song. And sometimes those stories can get me to re-evaluated my opinion of a song.

I'm probably only buy the SDE CD set. I don't want or need the vinyl. However, if I understand correctly, the vinyl set is the only one with the DVD. That is tempting me to buy it.

I hope this podcast doesn't get derailed by politics like the SOTT SDE podcast. I appreciate that the era's politics provide context, and I would have had no objection to a brief conversation on the topic, but it just went on and on too long.

Plus, the Professor (I think she was from Harvard?) didn't provide a objective, nuanced or sophisticated analysis of the era. She came across as a zealot rather than an academic. I have a graduate degree in political science myself and worry that people like her give our discipline a bad name.

And for the record, I didn't object to her analysis because I'm some right-winger. To the contrary, I'm a life-long liberal. Nevertheless, I could recognize that her facts were often wrong, her assumptions were disconnected from reality, and her explanations were grossly oversimplified. She created a cartoonish narrative for the world and then bended the facts and manufactured motivations to fit within it. She was more tribal than ideological. If I was debating a right-winger, she's the last person I'd want backing me up.

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I'm very excited for this record. I love the songs released so far, and I can't wait to hear the rest. I think his final decade of output was top notch, except for maybe MPLSound, which I still don't really like.

lurker316 said:

I hope this podcast doesn't get derailed by politics like the SOTT SDE podcast. I appreciate that the era's politics provide context, and I would have had no objection to a brief conversation on the topic, but it just went on and on too long.

Plus, the Professor (I think she was from Harvard?) didn't provide a objective, nuanced or sophisticated analysis of the era. She came across as a zealot rather than an academic. I have a graduate degree in political science myself and worry that people like her give our discipline a bad name.

And for the record, I didn't object to her analysis because I'm some right-winger. To the contrary, I'm a life-long liberal. Nevertheless, I could recognize that her facts were often wrong, her assumptions were disconnected from reality, and her explanations were grossly oversimplified. She created a cartoonish narrative for the world and then bended the facts and manufactured motivations to fit within it. She was more tribal than ideological. If I was debating a right-winger, she's the last person I'd want backing me up.

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Sure glad I didnt listen to that garbage....Unfortunately there are ALOT of zealots on the left now - Liberalism is now a disease

TruthBomb said:

lurker316 said:

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Sure glad I didnt listen to that garbage....Unfortunately there are ALOT of zealots on the left now - Liberalism is now a disease

The ironic thing is that many positions of the modern progressive movement are decidedly illiberal. They've completely flip-flopped on a number of fundamental issues. Things that used to be considered left-wing are now considered right-wing. It's a stange world we're living in.

tab32792 said:

I like this idea of doing a few podcasts for each new release

Have dug the podcast series thus far so looking forward to this one

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lurker316 said:

I hope this podcast doesn't get derailed by politics like the SOTT SDE podcast. I appreciate that the era's politics provide context, and I would have had no objection to a brief conversation on the topic, but it just went on and on too long.

Plus, the Professor (I think she was from Harvard?) didn't provide a objective, nuanced or sophisticated analysis of the era. She came across as a zealot rather than an academic. I have a graduate degree in political science myself and worry that people like her give our discipline a bad name.

And for the record, I didn't object to her analysis because I'm some right-winger. To the contrary, I'm a life-long liberal. Nevertheless, I could recognize that her facts were often wrong, her assumptions were disconnected from reality, and her explanations were grossly oversimplified. She created a cartoonish narrative for the world and then bended the facts and manufactured motivations to fit within it. She was more tribal than ideological. If I was debating a right-winger, she's the last person I'd want backing me up.

Couldn't have put it better myself. Everyone with their eyes open can see the narrative certain people keep trying to push and hopefully we can all see through it

jfenster said:

tab32792 said:

I’m gonna vomit

What would they have to do with this???

Nothing.

Politically Prince moved from right to left (and back agian!) over his life, and if looked at correctly by someone who knows their shit, would be interesting to hear their views - (Ronnie talk to Russia), but what with the whole way things are moving politically (no Xtra Loveable) in America, it suits the Estate to play down certain aspects of Prince's beliefs and play up the ones which chime well with some of the current opinions (Donald Trump Black Version).