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SimonCharles

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SOTT podcast final episode...The Miles Davis Experience.

How did people enjoy this episode? It was terrific to hear the anecdotes about Miles and Prince, but it felt, to me, like it fell a little flat as the final episode celebrating the release of the SDE. As always, with Prince, after 8 episodes, I still have loads of unanswered questions...perhaps that's some of the appeal of the man?

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Reply #1 posted 10/16/20 3:14am

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I've not listened yet, but I'm still half way through ep7 (getting a bit bored of it), I think 6 episodes would of been enough!

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Reply #2 posted 10/16/20 6:26am

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"See!!? I told you Springsteen couldn't play guitar!"

lol

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Reply #3 posted 10/16/20 3:55pm

jdcxc

nayroo2002 said:

"See!!? I told you Springsteen couldn't play guitar!"

lol


Yessss! Loved Prince's competitive side.

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Reply #4 posted 10/16/20 9:47pm

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I don't have any complaints. The whole series was an enjoyable listen, but I probably won't go back to it unlike some of Michael Dean's interviews over the years. I agree the last couple of episodes were a bit flat while understanding they were trying to present a chronological narrative. They perhaps sacrificed depth in order to tell a wide ranging story. Still, I was happy to go along for the ride.
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Personally, I'd like to hear more about the songs and the creative process. I suppose Prince himself is the only person who could have done that. And that never would have happened. I don't need to hear about the studio errors or the band members ignoring Prince while Miles was on stage one more time, but I appreciate there will always be people listening for whom those kinds of details will be revelatory. What I want, new insights into his song craft, I'll have to find in the work of Zachary Hopkins, Duane Tudahl, Arthur Turnbull and their like.
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Reply #5 posted 10/17/20 4:57am

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This one was great! Informative and enjoyable. I loved how they all imitated Miles voice.

I will never understand the complaints of the series. It was nice to hear from the former band members and associates.
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Reply #6 posted 10/17/20 5:35am

LoveGalore

Poplife88 said:

This one was great! Informative and enjoyable. I loved how they all imitated Miles voice.

I will never understand the complaints of the series. It was nice to hear from the former band members and associates.


You're telling me it hasn't been made clear why some people find The Revolution to be tedious and overdone?
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Reply #7 posted 10/17/20 5:49am

thebanishedone

nayroo2002 said:

"See!!? I told you Springsteen couldn't play guitar!"

lol

sorry,can u elaborate further,what did Prince say about Bruce and to whom?

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Reply #8 posted 10/17/20 5:53am

thebanishedone

Can anybody please give details about when and why Prince said that about Bruce???

Anyway Bruce is a really good guitar player.much better than people give him credit

so i don't understand why Prince said what he said

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Reply #9 posted 10/17/20 5:54am

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LoveGalore said:

Poplife88 said:

This one was great! Informative and enjoyable. I loved how they all imitated Miles voice.

I will never understand the complaints of the series. It was nice to hear from the former band members and associates.


You're telling me it hasn't been made clear why some people find The Revolution to be tedious and overdone?


lol lol lol

Those posts got pretty bonkers...I couldn’t keep up!
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Reply #10 posted 10/17/20 8:17am

rednblue

nayroo2002 said:

"See!!? I told you Springsteen couldn't play guitar!"

lol


Maybe I'm just humor-impaired, but for a man who had the musical chops (and comedy chops, for that matter) to represent the biggest of big leagues, this stuff seemed beneath him.

Why bother with these elaborate, trash-talking-style, practical jokes? I know he loved them, and he pulled them on a bunch of musicians. Respect that this was what he loved. To each his own.

But from my own weird woman perspective, it's odd. He could always get people laughing. Crying-hard laughing.

His music spoke for itself. Why put that vibe on stage?

Did love hearing about P's playful side, including how he told the band he had a surprise for them, but didn't let on that Miles Davis might join them on stage.

The stories of how band members realized just what was up were so great.

Loved this story from Levi Seacer:

"So, you know, we're at rehearsal and like, "Whoa, wow, I wonder when [Prince is] going to tell us what's going on." Because we were just kind of sitting around, and I'm like doodling on the piano and my spider sense — I said, "Somebody's sitting next to me who I don't know." I turned, and it was Miles Davis. So you have to imagine that. So he's been an icon to every musician on the planet in one way or the other. And he's right next to me and he's talking to me like we been knowing each other 30 years: "Did you know there are no bad keys on the piano? There are no bad notes; did you know that?" And he's using some other colorful words that I can't say right now. And I'm like, "I didn't know that, Miles," and he says, "Keep playing." So he's playing this solo, but to me it sounds a little out of key but he said, "Wait, don't make that face. It's not out of key! I know what I'm doing." I said, "Of course you know what you're doing." And then he was explaining to me how nothing is wrong in music; it just depends on if you let the audience know it. (laughs) He said sometimes he'll play a note that's so irritating to people, he'll play it until they like it."

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Reply #11 posted 10/19/20 6:42am

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thebanishedone said:

Can anybody please give details about when and why Prince said that about Bruce???

Anyway Bruce is a really good guitar player.much better than people give him credit

so i don't understand why Prince said what he said

...because, Prince was competitive and better! Imagine Prince seeing all these white guys getting top billing as guitarists when Prince could do what we all know he could do. He was human!

As for the series, oh yes, loved it. Andrea did a fine job. I do think 2 episodes were flat (7 for sure) but the reset was superb. I think they could have used more musical clips and stories about them or possibly to show how incredible his talent was that he could do Walk in Glory, All My Dreams, Large Room and then shelve it all b/c he'd moved onto something else.

However, it was a fantastic series.

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Reply #12 posted 10/19/20 7:19am

rednblue

JoeyCococo said:

thebanishedone said:

Can anybody please give details about when and why Prince said that about Bruce???

Anyway Bruce is a really good guitar player.much better than people give him credit

so i don't understand why Prince said what he said

...because, Prince was competitive and better! Imagine Prince seeing all these white guys getting top billing as guitarists when Prince could do what we all know he could do. He was human!

As for the series, oh yes, loved it. Andrea did a fine job. I do think 2 episodes were flat (7 for sure) but the reset was superb. I think they could have used more musical clips and stories about them or possibly to show how incredible his talent was that he could do Walk in Glory, All My Dreams, Large Room and then shelve it all b/c he'd moved onto something else.

However, it was a fantastic series.


Totally get what you're saying about Prince being human and what Prince was capable of musically. It makes me think of his comment about how he could do the U2 stuff, but U2 could not do a lot of what he could do.

The podcast connected the comment about Bruce with one of those practical jokes up on stage...with those jokes that used band cues to try to make the guest musician appear lost, inept, and foolish.

The podcast was describing Prince targeting Miles with one of these jokes during the Paisley New Years Eve show.

Just curious. Why do you think Prince did that to Miles?

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Reply #13 posted 10/19/20 9:33am

JoeyCococo

I recall clearly when Prine was quoted as as sayinig 'I can do that (U2 music), but they will not do 'Housequake'. NOw that we're aware of how much he did at the time..it is crazy how correct he was. I mean, that he could do a song like Walk IN Glory and put it on the shelf while U2 puts out Joshua Tree and get rewarded with Album of the Year??? cOme on..

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Reply #14 posted 10/19/20 12:21pm

SimonCharles

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rednblue said:

JoeyCococo said:

...because, Prince was competitive and better! Imagine Prince seeing all these white guys getting top billing as guitarists when Prince could do what we all know he could do. He was human!

As for the series, oh yes, loved it. Andrea did a fine job. I do think 2 episodes were flat (7 for sure) but the reset was superb. I think they could have used more musical clips and stories about them or possibly to show how incredible his talent was that he could do Walk in Glory, All My Dreams, Large Room and then shelve it all b/c he'd moved onto something else.

However, it was a fantastic series.


Totally get what you're saying about Prince being human and what Prince was capable of musically. It makes me think of his comment about how he could do the U2 stuff, but U2 could not do a lot of what he could do.

The podcast connected the comment about Bruce with one of those practical jokes up on stage...with those jokes that used band cues to try to make the guest musician appear lost, inept, and foolish.

The podcast was describing Prince targeting Miles with one of these jokes during the Paisley New Years Eve show.

Just curious. Why do you think Prince did that to Miles?

[Edited 10/19/20 8:22am]

I think Eric or Alan Leeds answers that in the podcast - there wasn't enough room for the two egos on stage.

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Reply #15 posted 10/19/20 1:01pm

thebanishedone

SimonCharles said:



rednblue said:




JoeyCococo said:





...because, Prince was competitive and better! Imagine Prince seeing all these white guys getting top billing as guitarists when Prince could do what we all know he could do. He was human!



As for the series, oh yes, loved it. Andrea did a fine job. I do think 2 episodes were flat (7 for sure) but the reset was superb. I think they could have used more musical clips and stories about them or possibly to show how incredible his talent was that he could do Walk in Glory, All My Dreams, Large Room and then shelve it all b/c he'd moved onto something else.



However, it was a fantastic series.




Totally get what you're saying about Prince being human and what Prince was capable of musically. It makes me think of his comment about how he could do the U2 stuff, but U2 could not do a lot of what he could do.

The podcast connected the comment about Bruce with one of those practical jokes up on stage...with those jokes that used band cues to try to make the guest musician appear lost, inept, and foolish.

The podcast was describing Prince targeting Miles with one of these jokes during the Paisley New Years Eve show.

Just curious. Why do you think Prince did that to Miles?


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I think Eric or Alan Leeds answers that in the podcast - there wasn't enough room for the two egos on stage.


Well what if Prince was nervous and wanted to impress Miles with his tight band leadership but it got counter productive
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Reply #16 posted 10/19/20 4:29pm

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I binged the last few episodes this afternoon. I got disillusioned after the Lisa/Wendy/Susannah mini-podcast gripe/snoozefest and stopped listening for awhile. Four episodes seemed to be stretching things a bit. Having Cat and Levi be a part of Episode 6 was great and made me hopeful again. Levi's humility and Cat's gratitude for being a part of it all was refreshing. I wish they had gotten Miko, Sheila, Wally, Greg, and some of the others to speak on their experiences.

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Reply #17 posted 10/20/20 5:09am

Poplife88

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Derek880 said:

I binged the last few episodes this afternoon. I got disillusioned after the Lisa/Wendy/Susannah mini-podcast gripe/snoozefest and stopped listening for awhile. Four episodes seemed to be stretching things a bit. Having Cat and Levi be a part of Episode 6 was great and made me hopeful again. Levi's humility and Cat's gratitude for being a part of it all was refreshing. I wish they had gotten Miko, Sheila, Wally, Greg, and some of the others to speak on their experiences.

I am hearing Miko and Sheila declined or didn't respond to participate. No idea bout Wally and Greg.

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Reply #18 posted 10/20/20 7:15am

thebanishedone

Alan Leeds was wrong about Prince sabootaging Bruce Springsteen.

There is a audio of Baby Im A Star live 1985 L.A. and around 7th minute Prince says :Bruce play something. Bruce Springsteen played a 1 minute long bluesy funky guitar solo and after 1 minute Prince said :Everybody stop on the 1.

What Bruce played was totally fine so i don't understand why Prince said what he said about Bruce.

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