Strawberrylova123 said:

80tomato said:

I am assuming the other woman who was upset about Susannah being in the picture was Jill Jones ?

Nahh she was aware of jill jones, I'm going to guess devin. Devasquez

Or Sheila E. According to Alan Leeds he took Susannah home to Minn from Paris. He returned to Paris and Sheila E was on the scene.

Strawberrylova123 said:

80tomato said:

I am assuming the other woman who was upset about Susannah being in the picture was Jill Jones ?

Nahh she was aware of jill jones, I'm going to guess devin. Devasquez

She said she would try to met Lisa Wendy etc and Prince would keep her from them

Very interesting interview. Thanks for posting.

Two things I noticed:

Sometimes it snows in April was written 21 April 1985 and not on 21 April 1986 like she said.

How could Prince be introduced to Joni Mitchells Music by the Melvoins when he already wrote "Joni" on the cover of the Controversy Album? He already knew about Joni long before he met them.

theplejades said:

Very interesting interview. Thanks for posting.

Two things I noticed:

Sometimes it snows in April was written 21 April 1985 and not on 21 April 1986 like she said.

How could Prince be introduced to Joni Mitchells Music by the Melvoins when he already wrote "Joni" on the cover of the Controversy Album? He already knew about Joni long before he met them.

Yes, she is full of crap with that one. Joni even said in an interview that she remembers seeing him at one of her shows when he was a teen.

theplejades said:

Very interesting interview. Thanks for posting.

Two things I noticed:

Sometimes it snows in April was written 21 April 1985 and not on 21 April 1986 like she said.

How could Prince be introduced to Joni Mitchells Music by the Melvoins when he already wrote "Joni" on the cover of the Controversy Album? He already knew about Joni long before he met them.

Actually I thought it was Lisa Coleman and Prince that first got into Joni's music early on. Prince touched on it in a 1998 interview.

theplejades said:

Very interesting interview. Thanks for posting.

Two things I noticed:

Sometimes it snows in April was written 21 April 1985 and not on 21 April 1986 like she said.

How could Prince be introduced to Joni Mitchells Music by the Melvoins when he already wrote "Joni" on the cover of the Controversy Album? He already knew about Joni long before he met them.

Sheila E also quoted some dates of recordings a year earlier and another a year or two later. I guess it is a slip.

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Actually I thought it was Lisa Coleman and Prince that first got into Joni's music early on. Prince touched on it in a 1998 interview.

Then why did Joni Mitchell say she saw him at her shoes as a teen?

Prince talked about Lisa being into Joni Mitchell, and of course she came into the camp late 79.

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It's like when I listened to certain rappers, but it was a friend who really opened me up to that rapper later.

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Same way I knew people who listened to Prince, but I opened them up to Prince. And not they are really into Prince in a whole abstract way. You get into the artist in a different way and interpret and discuss and impart the music.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Actually I thought it was Lisa Coleman and Prince that first got into Joni's music early on. Prince touched on it in a 1998 interview.

Nope! Prince listened to Joni before he met Lisa.

Then why did Joni Mitchell say she saw him at her shoes as a teen?

Prince talked about Lisa being into Joni Mitchell, and of course she came into the camp late 79.

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It's like when I listened to certain rappers, but it was a friend who really opened me up [\quote]

Nope! Prince listened to Joni Mitchell before he met Lisa.
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I dont think a family that lets their 12 year old move in with his best friend is without trauma. It just might not be the violence and trauma associated with the Purple Rain movie. He might have been a difficult child, but he was never in the principal's office or jail, so how bad could he have been, and if the family didn't want to accomodate him a bit on his music dreams and would rather let him move out at 12, then I have a tough time believing there weren't some serious issues there. Maybe, she just means he wasn't beaten or deprived of basic needs. But I have a feeling his mother was constantly working and away from home, , his dad was selfish and his stepfather was a bit of a strict and dickish disciplinarian who thought if he threw money at his stepson, everything would be cool. None of them were abusive in the strictest definition but it doesn't sound like his family life was particularly warm or constant. Plus, other people noticed at the time that his family life was eratic and Andre once stated that Prince told him that he "could take this shit anymore". But no family life is perfect and maybe that is all she meant.

anangellooksdown said:

I think he was afraid of being alone. Also I have gotten the feeling that there wasn’t huge trauma in his childhood either. He said himself, “Power to the ones who could raise a child like me...” He simple chose to live at Andre Simone’s, so he did it. Damn. Good on him!!! [Edited 2/17/18 10:56am]

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That marriage proposal seemed like a consolation prize for not being in the film ...regardless of how big the ring was...almost like he never really meant it especially since there was no discussion of a marriage ...just how it came across to me.

Igot the same feeling about the Sheila E proposal...in the spur of the moment

purplerabbithole said:

said:

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Actually I thought it was Lisa Coleman and Prince that first got into Joni's music early on. Prince touched on it in a 1998 interview.

Then why did Joni Mitchell say she saw him at her shoes as a teen?

Prince talked about Lisa being into Joni Mitchell, and of course she came into the camp late 79.

.

It's like when I listened to certain rappers, but it was a friend who really opened me up to that rapper later.

.

Same way I knew people who listened to Prince, but I opened them up to Prince. And not they are really into Prince in a whole abstract way. You get into the artist in a different way and interpret and discuss and impart the music.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Then why did Joni Mitchell say she saw him at her shoes as a teen?

Prince talked about Lisa being into Joni Mitchell, and of course she came into the camp late 79.

.

It's like when I listened to certain rappers, but it was a friend who really opened me up to that rapper later.

.

Same way I knew people who listened to Prince, but I opened them up to Prince. And not they are really into Prince in a whole abstract way. You get into the artist in a different way and interpret and discuss and impart the music.

[/quote Then you are saying that Joni was telling a lie.

I also remember Joni saying that Prince wrote her fanmail with his usual 4s and Us. It must have been at a very early stage in his career because they did not know who he was at that point in time so her assistant threw his mail away.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I love how she "claims" Prince begged her to come back for two months after she left him in Minneapolis because of loneliness.

laurarichardson said:

And while engaged to Susannah, had Jill Jones at his beck and call, and set up an apartment for her.

eugenius said:

JoeyCococo said:

Come on...you think Prince let Susanah know he was going to party in Nice? I love the man but the only thing that came close to his greatness as a musician was his greatness as a P L A Y A!~!!! When he passed, do you not see how many diff women came forth with loving stories of their time together - their RECENT time !!?Q?Q? ) The man had lots and lots of women.

One thing I will note is that despite having loads of women the common theme is that he was very good with them. Even the ones that had bad ends (nona gaye) seemed to have been hurt terrible all these years later when he passed.

this was a very special dude.

One thing I will note is that despite having loads of women the common theme is that he was very good with them.

How are you gonna note that? You should look into what his assistant Karen Krattinger said about how shitty he treated Susannah. Weeks before Prince and his entourage (Alan Leeds, Susannah, Gilbert Davidson, and a couple others touched down in France, Prince gave her a ring. He didn't verbally propose to her, but she took the diamond ring as a proposal -- what girl wouldn't at that stage in any relationship. It's probably fair to say she thought that because she had the ring, and she was going to be spending an extensive amount of time in Nice with him, he was gearing towards a more monogamous relationship than before.

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I will give Susannah credit for one thing though, and one thing only -- she knows how to suck up all the pain Prince caused her, and now, in 2018 she can tell a pretty romantic tale about how great he was to her.

Prince suffered abuse as a child, it has been documented. More lies from Susannah.

PennyPurple said:

anangellooksdown said:

PennyPurple said:

Prince suffered abuse as a child, it has been documented. More lies from Susannah.

Do you mean documented as in by the Dept of Social Services, or the police, or by the trustworthy words of those close to him? How has it been documented, Penny? Is really appreciate your sharing about this. I have read Alex Hahn’s book but it focuses on the early years, and I wonder if there’s anything like this in it. Thanks.

Hahn's book for 1. Those he interviews told him (hahn). Prince said many times how strict his dad was with him. His dad kicked him out at the age of 12, his step dad locked him in a closet. Do you think it was all peachy and he just moved in with Andre's family for the heck of it?

PennyPurple said:

anangellooksdown said:

PennyPurple said: Do you mean documented as in by the Dept of Social Services, or the police, or by the trustworthy words of those close to him? How has it been documented, Penny? Is really appreciate your sharing about this. I have read Alex Hahn’s book but it focuses on the early years, and I wonder if there’s anything like this in it. Thanks.

Hahn's book for 1. Those he interviews told him (hahn). Prince said many times how strict his dad was with him. His dad kicked him out at the age of 12, his step dad locked him in a closet. Do you think it was all peachy and he just moved in with Andre's family for the heck of it?

All anyone has to do is listen to Prince's autobiographical song "Papa" to learn the abuse he suffered as a child. It's all right there.

PennyPurple said:

anangellooksdown said: