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Someone NEW...... My Summer as J. Eric Ward

until then...



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Reply #1 posted 06/09/09 7:45pm

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a hint to the location of Someone New...


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a brief history lesson before we continue....




John Hanson, American Patriot and First President of the United States
(1715-1783)


He was the heir of one of the greatest family traditions in the colonies and became the patriarch of a long line of American patriots – his great-grandfather died at Lutzen beside the great King Gustavus Aldophus of Sweden; his grandfather was one of the founders of New Sweden along the Delaware River in Maryland; one of his nephews was the military secretary to George Washington; another was a signer of the Declaration; still another was a signer of the Constitution; yet another was Governor of Maryland during the Revolution; and still another was a member of the first Congress; two sons were killed in action with the Continental Army; a grandson served as a member of Congress under the new Constitution; and another grandson was a Maryland Senator. Thus, even if Hanson had not served as President himself, he would have greatly contributed to the life of the nation through his ancestry and progeny.

As a youngster he began a self-guided reading of classics and rather quickly became an acknowledged expert in the juridicalism of Anselm and the practical philosophy of Seneca – both of which were influential in the development of the political philosophy of the great leaders of the Reformation. It was based upon these legal and theological studies that the young planter – his farm, Mulberry Grove was just across the Potomac from Mount Vernon – began to espouse the cause of the patriots.

In 1775 he was elected to the Provincial Legislature of Maryland. Then in 1777, he became a member of Congress where he distinguished himself as a brilliant administrator. Thus, he was elected President in 1781. Was John Hanson the first President of the United States?

The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation. This document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much power in the new government from such large amounts of land). Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against him, as he was a major player in the Revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.

As the first President, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and the role was poorly defined. His actions in office would set precedent for all future Presidents. He took office just as the Revolutionary War ended. Almost immediately, the troops demanded to be paid. As would be expected after any long war, there were no funds to meet the salaries. As a result, the soldiers threatened to overthrow the new government and put Washington on the throne as a monarch. All the members of Congress ran for their lives, leaving Hanson running the government. He somehow managed to calm the troops and hold the country together. If he had failed, the government would have fallen almost immediately and everyone would have been bowing to King Washington.

Hanson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite a feat, considering the fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United States since the days following Columbus. Hanson established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been required to use on all official documents. President Hanson also established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department. Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today.

The Articles of Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one-year term during any three-year period, so Hanson actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time. He served in that office from November 5, 1781 until November 3, 1782. He was the first President to serve a full term after the full ratification of the Articles of Confederation – and like so many of the Southern and New England Founders, he was strongly opposed to the Constitution when it was first discussed. He remained a confirmed anti-federalist until his untimely death.

Six other presidents were elected after him - Elias Boudinot (1783), Thomas Mifflin (1784), Richard Henry Lee (1785), Nathan Gorman (1786), Arthur St. Clair (1787), and Cyrus Griffin (1788) - all prior to Washington taking office. Why don't we ever hear about the first seven Presidents of the United States? It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well. The individual states had too much power and nothing could be agreed upon. A new doctrine needed to be written - something we know as the Constitution.

George Washington was definitely not the first President of the United States. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitution we follow today. And the first seven Presidents are forgotten in history.


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Reply #3 posted 06/10/09 11:13am

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a brief history lesson before we continue....




John Hanson, American Patriot and First President of the United States
(1715-1783)


He was the heir of one of the greatest family traditions in the colonies and became the patriarch of a long line of American patriots – his great-grandfather died at Lutzen beside the great King Gustavus Aldophus of Sweden; his grandfather was one of the founders of New Sweden along the Delaware River in Maryland; one of his nephews was the military secretary to George Washington; another was a signer of the Declaration; still another was a signer of the Constitution; yet another was Governor of Maryland during the Revolution; and still another was a member of the first Congress; two sons were killed in action with the Continental Army; a grandson served as a member of Congress under the new Constitution; and another grandson was a Maryland Senator. Thus, even if Hanson had not served as President himself, he would have greatly contributed to the life of the nation through his ancestry and progeny.

As a youngster he began a self-guided reading of classics and rather quickly became an acknowledged expert in the juridicalism of Anselm and the practical philosophy of Seneca – both of which were influential in the development of the political philosophy of the great leaders of the Reformation. It was based upon these legal and theological studies that the young planter – his farm, Mulberry Grove was just across the Potomac from Mount Vernon – began to espouse the cause of the patriots.

In 1775 he was elected to the Provincial Legislature of Maryland. Then in 1777, he became a member of Congress where he distinguished himself as a brilliant administrator. Thus, he was elected President in 1781. Was John Hanson the first President of the United States?

The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation. This document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much power in the new government from such large amounts of land). Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against him, as he was a major player in the Revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.

As the first President, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and the role was poorly defined. His actions in office would set precedent for all future Presidents. He took office just as the Revolutionary War ended. Almost immediately, the troops demanded to be paid. As would be expected after any long war, there were no funds to meet the salaries. As a result, the soldiers threatened to overthrow the new government and put Washington on the throne as a monarch. All the members of Congress ran for their lives, leaving Hanson running the government. He somehow managed to calm the troops and hold the country together. If he had failed, the government would have fallen almost immediately and everyone would have been bowing to King Washington.

Hanson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite a feat, considering the fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United States since the days following Columbus. Hanson established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been required to use on all official documents. President Hanson also established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department. Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today.

The Articles of Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one-year term during any three-year period, so Hanson actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time. He served in that office from November 5, 1781 until November 3, 1782. He was the first President to serve a full term after the full ratification of the Articles of Confederation – and like so many of the Southern and New England Founders, he was strongly opposed to the Constitution when it was first discussed. He remained a confirmed anti-federalist until his untimely death.

Six other presidents were elected after him - Elias Boudinot (1783), Thomas Mifflin (1784), Richard Henry Lee (1785), Nathan Gorman (1786), Arthur St. Clair (1787), and Cyrus Griffin (1788) - all prior to Washington taking office. Why don't we ever hear about the first seven Presidents of the United States? It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well. The individual states had too much power and nothing could be agreed upon. A new doctrine needed to be written - something we know as the Constitution.

George Washington was definitely not the first President of the United States. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitution we follow today. And the first seven Presidents are forgotten in history.


http://www.marshallhall.org/hanson.html



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Reply #4 posted 06/10/09 12:55pm

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a brief history lesson before we continue....




John Hanson, American Patriot and First President of the United States
(1715-1783)


He was the heir of one of the greatest family traditions in the colonies and became the patriarch of a long line of American patriots – his great-grandfather died at Lutzen beside the great King Gustavus Aldophus of Sweden; his grandfather was one of the founders of New Sweden along the Delaware River in Maryland; one of his nephews was the military secretary to George Washington; another was a signer of the Declaration; still another was a signer of the Constitution; yet another was Governor of Maryland during the Revolution; and still another was a member of the first Congress; two sons were killed in action with the Continental Army; a grandson served as a member of Congress under the new Constitution; and another grandson was a Maryland Senator. Thus, even if Hanson had not served as President himself, he would have greatly contributed to the life of the nation through his ancestry and progeny.

As a youngster he began a self-guided reading of classics and rather quickly became an acknowledged expert in the juridicalism of Anselm and the practical philosophy of Seneca – both of which were influential in the development of the political philosophy of the great leaders of the Reformation. It was based upon these legal and theological studies that the young planter – his farm, Mulberry Grove was just across the Potomac from Mount Vernon – began to espouse the cause of the patriots.

In 1775 he was elected to the Provincial Legislature of Maryland. Then in 1777, he became a member of Congress where he distinguished himself as a brilliant administrator. Thus, he was elected President in 1781. Was John Hanson the first President of the United States?

The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation. This document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much power in the new government from such large amounts of land). Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against him, as he was a major player in the Revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.

As the first President, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and the role was poorly defined. His actions in office would set precedent for all future Presidents. He took office just as the Revolutionary War ended. Almost immediately, the troops demanded to be paid. As would be expected after any long war, there were no funds to meet the salaries. As a result, the soldiers threatened to overthrow the new government and put Washington on the throne as a monarch. All the members of Congress ran for their lives, leaving Hanson running the government. He somehow managed to calm the troops and hold the country together. If he had failed, the government would have fallen almost immediately and everyone would have been bowing to King Washington.

Hanson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite a feat, considering the fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United States since the days following Columbus. Hanson established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been required to use on all official documents. President Hanson also established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department. Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today.

The Articles of Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one-year term during any three-year period, so Hanson actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time. He served in that office from November 5, 1781 until November 3, 1782. He was the first President to serve a full term after the full ratification of the Articles of Confederation – and like so many of the Southern and New England Founders, he was strongly opposed to the Constitution when it was first discussed. He remained a confirmed anti-federalist until his untimely death.

Six other presidents were elected after him - Elias Boudinot (1783), Thomas Mifflin (1784), Richard Henry Lee (1785), Nathan Gorman (1786), Arthur St. Clair (1787), and Cyrus Griffin (1788) - all prior to Washington taking office. Why don't we ever hear about the first seven Presidents of the United States? It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well. The individual states had too much power and nothing could be agreed upon. A new doctrine needed to be written - something we know as the Constitution.

George Washington was definitely not the first President of the United States. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitution we follow today. And the first seven Presidents are forgotten in history.


http://www.marshallhall.org/hanson.html


This is true, but John Hanson is not entirely forgotten. There is an expressway named after him in the DC area.
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there is speculation on rather this man Mr. John Hansen
is of Black decent.

if he is... then our current president is not the first?



prepare for the announcement.
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Reply #6 posted 06/12/09 12:04pm

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Lukas Put down that Gun!!!!




to be continued..
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Reply #7 posted 06/12/09 6:54pm

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Lukas Put down that Gun!!!!




to be continued..



who the F@ck is lukas?? and why does he have a gun?
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what is goin on at the download society??
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Reply #8 posted 06/13/09 6:58pm

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while on his way back to NYC DreamFirstBorn, Jew's bus was held high-jacked.. these are photos from the scene...


the announcement coming soon...
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Reply #9 posted 06/15/09 1:11pm

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So now being back in NYC DreamFirstBorn, Jew at his first photoshoot back in town..






still wondering who Someone New is?


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Reply #10 posted 06/15/09 4:18pm

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So now being back in NYC DreamFirstBorn, Jew at his first photoshoot back in town..

still wondering who Someone New is?

to be continued.


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Reply #11 posted 06/17/09 10:33am

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the announcement will come tommorrow....


someone new.
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Reply #12 posted 06/20/09 12:27pm

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Since coming back to NYC i have been conducting an experiment. I wanted to see how far i could get as an actor using an assumed name. As I am DreamFirstBorn, Jew i have been excluded from a lot of oppertunities because of my name and my association with The DownLoad Society and prince.org. So this experiment will allow me to see what i can accomplish as i am as someone else. So far i have been on several auditions and have landed 3 different roles on independand films here in New York City.. them being

1. Palamor - which is about an artist who falls in love with a girl.

2. INTERMEZZO - The film tells the story of a middle-aged man who sees a long lost love from his school days while attending a performance at the theater with his wife. He is beset with flashbacks as he wrestles with whether to approach…or leave things as they are. Meanwhile, the intermission chimes await to bring down the curtain on his chance.

3. The Most Benevolent Breakup Ever - about a guy who gets accepted to grad shool and has to break up with his girl friend in order to make the transition from Columbia Univerity to Princeton University.

i have 3 more films confirmed and began shooting in the next week or so. I have been apart of a music video and i have been offered a featured role in a film with a shooting schedule which has yet been determine.

I am conducting this experiment to see how far i can go using a different name other than my own. This will me my summer experience and i will be writing about this experiment here on the org...

more to come on this..

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Reply #13 posted 06/20/09 1:05pm

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Here is the head shot i have been using.







It took me some serious searching to conduct this experiment, because my first concern was i didn't want to come across like i was selling out, or hiding my true identity just for the sake of getting work in this field. But after talking with jshua (from the org) he pointed out several reasons it was ok to conduct this experiment, and that i in fact was not selling out.

so with that concern out of the way i will continue to conduct this experiment until the end of summer and we will see just how much i can achieve under an ussumed name.

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Reply #14 posted 06/21/09 10:55am

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just to keep this story line from getting boring expect a guest writer to drop in from time to time... ;o)


i would tell ya who but you wouldn't believe me any way.


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Reply #15 posted 06/21/09 1:25pm

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so tomorrow is going to be a really busy day... first off i start at 8 a.m.

here on this film... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1286753/

until 4pm then off to AN OFF OFF OFF OFF Broadway production of Via Cafe
until 10 pm then from 10:30 to 1:30 i am schedule to shoot for a short independant film...



today i rest.

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Reply #16 posted 06/23/09 11:06am

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so tomorrow is going to be a really busy day... first off i start at 8 a.m.

here on this film... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1286753/

until 4pm then off to AN OFF OFF OFF OFF Broadway production of Via Cafe
until 10 pm then from 10:30 to 1:30 i am schedule to shoot for a short independant film...



today i rest.

DreamFirstBorn, Jew as J. Eric Ward
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I DID IT!!!

hhhmmmmm now what next...

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Reply #17 posted 06/24/09 9:17am

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"he talked about an encounter that he described as a “teaching moment.” “There was this woman. She used to come to Paisley Park and just sit outside on the swings,” he said. “So I went out there one day and I was, like, ‘Hey, all my friends in there say you’re a stalker. And that I should call the police. But I don’t want to do that, so why don’t you tell me what you want to happen. Why are you here? How do you want this to end?’ And she didn’t really have an answer for that. In the end, all she wanted was to be seen, for me to look at her. And she left and didn’t come back.”


some times i think its alright
some times not
this time its necessary.



look out for the moon, creatures are aproaching soon
if you change your mind
you will find i have not wandered far from thee
an answer will come
and all that is undone
is working its way towards completion
say not in a name that can not be pronounced
i am and you are will be announced
what is written is gold
paid by the ounce

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Reply #18 posted 06/24/09 9:47am

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prepare for J. Eric Ward's


background check...
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Reply #19 posted 06/25/09 9:46pm

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good night dear sir.... may you rest in peace.



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Reply #20 posted 06/28/09 10:23am

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Reply #21 posted 06/28/09 10:51am

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take a look at these two pictures...



some time ago...


[MJ ambulance pic snip - luv4u]

the last pic..


what does not add up?
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Reply #22 posted 06/28/09 10:57am

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skin color and nose, the position of eye brows, the hair, the difference in age,
the position of the paramedics hands while performing cpr are up to high on the chest.

the size of the head in the second is much smaller than the one in the first..
the lenght of the eye lashes are much longer in the second where as the first he almost has no eyelashes..

look at the cheeks in the first they are sunken in were as the second they are full..

just a look...
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Reply #23 posted 06/28/09 11:05am

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when it was announced the concert at london..


compared to the last photo are these 2 MJ's the same?
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Reply #24 posted 06/29/09 9:19am

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[MJ ambulance pic snip - luv4u]

yesterday a member of the download society conducted an interview with an EMT paramedic and according to his answers none of the match the sineral in that photo above.


some of the questions asked were...

1. are your side windows tinted... answer... yes
2. if i were to take a picture from outside of that window would it expose what was inside..... answer.... no
3. when the subject is place in the truck at what position do u administer assistance... answer... from the side
4. so is the subjects head placed between your legs.... answer... no.
5. when administering CPR where do the hands lie on the chest... answer... in the center above the soft spot..
6. so that not over the heart... yes.




hmmmm....
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Reply #25 posted 06/29/09 11:28am

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So now being back in NYC DreamFirstBorn, Jew at his first photoshoot back in town..






still wondering who Someone New is?


to be continued.



LOVE THOSE PHOTOS!!!!!
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Reply #26 posted 06/29/09 12:28pm

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[MJ ambulance pic snip - luv4u]


yesterday a member of the download society conducted an interview with an EMT paramedic and according to his answers none of the match the sineral in that photo above.


some of the questions asked were...

1. are your side windows tinted... answer... yes
2. if i were to take a picture from outside of that window would it expose what was inside..... answer.... no
3. when the subject is place in the truck at what position do u administer assistance... answer... from the side
4. so is the subjects head placed between your legs.... answer... no.
5. when administering CPR where do the hands lie on the chest... answer... in the center above the soft spot..
6. so that not over the heart... yes.




hmmmm....


[Flame snip - luv4u]

stoned
stoned That's some good shit!
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Reply #27 posted 06/29/09 1:33pm

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loveletter said:

[MJ ambulance pic snip - luv4u]

yesterday a member of the download society conducted an interview with an EMT paramedic and according to his answers none of the match the sineral in that photo above.


some of the questions asked were...

1. are your side windows tinted... answer... yes
2. if i were to take a picture from outside of that window would it expose what was inside..... answer.... no
3. when the subject is place in the truck at what position do u administer assistance... answer... from the side
4. so is the subjects head placed between your legs.... answer... no.
5. when administering CPR where do the hands lie on the chest... answer... in the center above the soft spot..
6. so that not over the heart... yes.




hmmmm....


[Flame snip - luv4u]

stoned



VERY VERY inapproriare and uncalled for!


What he is trying to display is that the man's hand is on his neck..his head is between someone's legs.. things that are not supposed to happen in the abulance. Then plus no one is supposed to be able to take pictures from the outside of an ambulance!
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Reply #28 posted 06/29/09 1:42pm

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i just downloaded MJ's entire collection.
Listening to it.
Save this other shit for later..thats all I'm saying paisley4.
This is bullshit for now.
People are really upset.
Save the pictures and conspiracy theories for later.
Just outta respect you would think.
Anyway I'm a little drunk and jew pissed me off.
aloha
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There are MJ stickies in the Music: non-Prince forum to discuss MJ, his music, etc. etc. etc.

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