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Thread started 10/17/06 7:24pm

RiccoTheArtist

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Is there anyone out there who plays guitar with a video camera or camera phone willing to post some video of you playing prince songs or Prince style techniques (hands and instrument) that that can help those of us trying to learn...maybe post them on youtube or some way for those interested in downloading them?

Thanks in advance.


acoustic or electric guitar







each one teach one!
[Edited 10/17/06 19:26pm]
love you baby but not like my guitar
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Reply #1 posted 10/17/06 8:47pm

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RiccoTheArtist said:

Is there anyone out there who plays guitar with a video camera or camera phone willing to post some video of you playing prince songs or Prince style techniques (hands and instrument) that that can help those of us trying to learn...maybe post them on youtube or some way for those interested in downloading them?

Thanks in advance.


acoustic or electric guitar







each one teach one!
[Edited 10/17/06 19:26pm]


i say this all the time to cats postin about Prince sound, or style or technique,

Breh, just letitgo, get yer own style,
ya never know ya might be better than prince one day,
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #2 posted 10/17/06 10:19pm

JesseDezz

What happened to the time-tested method of learning stuff from records (or nowadays, cds)?

As far as learning styles of famous players, I think learning licks from other players is an invaluable asset - it actually goes a long way toward discovering one's own style. Isn't that how one becomes versed in different techniques, styles? It helped me (and still does) to expand my horizons as a player to learn this player's approach and that player's approach to playing. I learned many lessons from deciphering Prince's (among others) playing. It's a rite of passage from players like Stevie Ray Vaughan on down to Hendrix, Clapton, et. al. Even someone as esteemed as Steve Lukather, for instance, picked Larry Carlton's brain when they toured/recorded together...

There's so much knowledge to be gained by learning other's approaches to music. One doesn't have to be a note-for-note copycat, yet one doesn't have to plead ignorance in order to develop a "personal style". I guess it depends on what a person hopes to get out of music.

Anyway, good luck...
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Reply #3 posted 10/17/06 10:54pm

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JesseDezz said:

What happened to the time-tested method of learning stuff from records (or nowadays, cds)?

As far as learning styles of famous players, I think learning licks from other players is an invaluable asset - it actually goes a long way toward discovering one's own style. Isn't that how one becomes versed in different techniques, styles? It helped me (and still does) to expand my horizons as a player to learn this player's approach and that player's approach to playing. I learned many lessons from deciphering Prince's (among others) playing. It's a rite of passage from players like Stevie Ray Vaughan on down to Hendrix, Clapton, et. al. Even someone as esteemed as Steve Lukather, for instance, picked Larry Carlton's brain when they toured/recorded together...

There's so much knowledge to be gained by learning other's approaches to music. One doesn't have to be a note-for-note copycat, yet one doesn't have to plead ignorance in order to develop a "personal style". I guess it depends on what a person hopes to get out of music.

Anyway, good luck...
[Edited 10/17/06 22:21pm]

personal style is a melting pot of all your influences,
what i don't like is people coming here wanting to sound and play like prince,
when in reality its not gonna happen
personal style is key to any guitarist who wan'ts to be even half good.
or else your just a carbon copy of another players style
you can take approaches, and scale preferences,
but your style is what makes your playing unique,

This person is looking to mimick princes style to the pint where he needs videos as reference points
pardon me but thats a tad too far...

I don't doubt other peoples techniques are key to learning how to play your own way
i myself took from Django, Muddy Waters, Slash, all the cats
But i took a step furthur, by playing their songs my own way,
difference between a copycat and an original guitarist
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #4 posted 10/17/06 11:09pm

JesseDezz

In a way, I feel u with the whole video thing - learning from records/books and relying/developing one's ear is the way a lot of us learned/still learn. Still, there were/are some great videos out there as well. Those Arlen Roth videos, with cats like Danny Gatton, were/are cool learning tools. As has been said, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery". With time, though, and experience, one starts to realize one's own strengths, weaknesses, etc.

Now, if this person is gonna start a Prince tribute band, that's a whole other story...

The one thing I don't get is the proliferation of videos on youtube where someone has just learned a few chords or parts of a song and posts it with the warning, "I just learned this, so don't be too cruel..."
[Edited 10/17/06 23:13pm]
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Reply #5 posted 10/17/06 11:22pm

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JesseDezz said:

In a way, I feel u with the whole video thing - learning from records/books and relying/developing one's ear is the way a lot of us learned/still learn. Still, there were/are some great videos out there as well. Those Arlen Roth videos, with cats like Danny Gatton, were/are cool learning tools. As has been said, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery". With time, though, and experience, one starts to realize one's own strengths, weaknesses, etc.

Now, if this person is gonna start a Prince tribute band, that's a whole other story...

The one thing I don't get is the proliferation of videos on youtube where someone has just learned a few chords or parts of a song and posts it with the warning, "I just learned this, so don't be too cruel..."
[Edited 10/17/06 23:13pm]

Attention hogs

its from my point of view, that people who don't know anything about guitar
find any shmo who could hold a few chords fascinating,
so they dig the attention,

maybe im just a geeetar prude lol
who knows,
but i agree with u the best way to learn is from records, or from tabs
I personally cant learn anything from videos, because i never look at the fretboard when im playing, so search me
i rely on my ear...

but i will throw the kid a bone
When it comes to Princes playing the key word is SUSTAIN, and alot of it
u wanna play like prince get your self a geetar that can sustain a note (with vibrato) for a goood 20 - 40 secs
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #6 posted 10/18/06 7:51am

RiccoTheArtist

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damn something so simple gets all out of control. I'm not trying to start a band I just want to learn a damn song or two that's all.

as someone said I will learn on my own thanks anyway! peace
love you baby but not like my guitar
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Reply #7 posted 10/18/06 9:09am

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RiccoTheArtist said:

Is there anyone out there who plays guitar with a video camera or camera phone willing to post some video of you playing prince songs or Prince style techniques (hands and instrument) that that can help those of us trying to learn...maybe post them on youtube or some way for those interested in downloading them?

Thanks in advance.


acoustic or electric guitar

Video is great way to share and learn.







each one teach one!
[Edited 10/17/06 19:26pm]
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Reply #8 posted 10/18/06 9:12pm

JesseDezz

RiccoTheArtist said:

damn something so simple gets all out of control. I'm not trying to start a band I just want to learn a damn song or two that's all.

as someone said I will learn on my own thanks anyway! peace


How has something gotten out of control? This has simply been a pretty good discussion about learning music and different approaches. If you're not adult enough to differentiate, maybe you should just leave the guitar and music alone...

Or next time, don't ask the question if you don't want any answers wink
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Reply #9 posted 10/19/06 1:04pm

RiccoTheArtist

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(1) "Attention hogs

its from my point of view, that people who don't know anything about guitar
find any shmo who could hold a few chords fascinating,
so they dig the attention, "


(2) "personal style is a melting pot of all your influences,
what i don't like is people coming here wanting to sound and play like prince"

now I understand you'all maybe trying to help!!!! but


Just like a karaoke type situation a group of us get together regularly and sing Prince songs and just to add a little something to that to be able to do that to acoustic guitar would be allot of fun, that's it...I got a day job, lol.

This website: http://www.e-chords.com

has pretty good videos on learning other peoples music!
it's one of the first websites I've come across in my learning process
but they have no video on Prince.
I understand learning by tabs and all that but I'm a see-it type person




this is just another hobby to me not a job or profession smile

Thanks all... now I'm off to get it on my own just like I mastered airbrush and Guitar making on my own I'll get it.

P.S. Thanks JesseDezz for the motivation

Peace all wink



ain't that some shit, I can make a guitar but can't play one razz


http://riccomn.tripod.commy site
[Edited 10/19/06 13:10pm]
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Reply #10 posted 10/19/06 2:17pm

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i can understand what you mean, i am teaching myself guitar as well and i learn more in five minutes of watching someone do it than two days of reading out of a book....

i think the intent of the initial poster was not to copycat Prince, but just to learn some tips and tricks to aide in his quest to learn the guitar.
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Reply #11 posted 10/19/06 6:33pm

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txladykat said:

i can understand what you mean, i am teaching myself guitar as well and i learn more in five minutes of watching someone do it than two days of reading out of a book....

i think the intent of the initial poster was not to copycat Prince, but just to learn some tips and tricks to aide in his quest to learn the guitar.


I agree
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Reply #12 posted 10/19/06 9:30pm

JesseDezz

RiccoTheArtist said:

(1) "Attention hogs

its from my point of view, that people who don't know anything about guitar
find any shmo who could hold a few chords fascinating,
so they dig the attention, "


(2) "personal style is a melting pot of all your influences,
what i don't like is people coming here wanting to sound and play like prince"

now I understand you'all maybe trying to help!!!! but


Just like a karaoke type situation a group of us get together regularly and sing Prince songs and just to add a little something to that to be able to do that to acoustic guitar would be allot of fun, that's it...I got a day job, lol.

This website: http://www.e-chords.com

has pretty good videos on learning other peoples music!
it's one of the first websites I've come across in my learning process
but they have no video on Prince.
I understand learning by tabs and all that but I'm a see-it type person




this is just another hobby to me not a job or profession smile

Thanks all... now I'm off to get it on my own just like I mastered airbrush and Guitar making on my own I'll get it.

P.S. Thanks JesseDezz for the motivation

Peace all wink



ain't that some shit, I can make a guitar but can't play one razz


http://riccomn.tripod.commy site
[Edited 10/19/06 13:10pm]


Hey, man, please forgive JesseDezz's rudeness - learning guitar shouldn't be an overwhelming thing. It's supposed to be fun among other things wink I guess nowadays, there are so many choices it's probably hard to know where to start. Good luck with your learning and your Prince get togethers (sounds like a lot of fun).

Now, as far as a lot of Prince's funk stuff, there are funk guitar method books that are definitely a big help. Check out musiciansfriend.com or amazon. BeauHall (from this site) also has a website devoted to funk guitar basics and he keeps it fun.

Good luck smile
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Reply #13 posted 10/19/06 10:11pm

RiccoTheArtist

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JesseDezz said:

RiccoTheArtist said:

(1) "Attention hogs

its from my point of view, that people who don't know anything about guitar
find any shmo who could hold a few chords fascinating,
so they dig the attention, "


(2) "personal style is a melting pot of all your influences,
what i don't like is people coming here wanting to sound and play like prince"

now I understand you'all maybe trying to help!!!! but


Just like a karaoke type situation a group of us get together regularly and sing Prince songs and just to add a little something to that to be able to do that to acoustic guitar would be allot of fun, that's it...I got a day job, lol.

This website: http://www.e-chords.com

has pretty good videos on learning other peoples music!
it's one of the first websites I've come across in my learning process
but they have no video on Prince.
I understand learning by tabs and all that but I'm a see-it type person




this is just another hobby to me not a job or profession smile

Thanks all... now I'm off to get it on my own just like I mastered airbrush and Guitar making on my own I'll get it.

P.S. Thanks JesseDezz for the motivation

Peace all wink



ain't that some shit, I can make a guitar but can't play one razz


http://riccomn.tripod.commy site
[Edited 10/19/06 13:10pm]


Hey, man, please forgive JesseDezz's rudeness - learning guitar shouldn't be an overwhelming thing. It's supposed to be fun among other things wink I guess nowadays, there are so many choices it's probably hard to know where to start. Good luck with your learning and your Prince get togethers (sounds like a lot of fun).

Now, as far as a lot of Prince's funk stuff, there are funk guitar method books that are definitely a big help. Check out musiciansfriend.com or amazon. BeauHall (from this site) also has a website devoted to funk guitar basics and he keeps it fun.

Good luck smile


Thank U cool
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Reply #14 posted 10/19/06 10:22pm

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also heres a site with some prince tunes on tablature
http://www.911tabs.com/tabs/p/prince/
also if your that into visual aid, it might be wise, to analyze some prince concert videos, if your serious
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #15 posted 10/20/06 11:58am

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EmbattledWarrior said:

also heres a site with some prince tunes on tablature
http://www.911tabs.com/tabs/p/prince/
also if your that into visual aid, it might be wise, to analyze some prince concert videos, if your serious



Thanks much, that's what I've been doing but the man's hands move at a blurr, lol
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Reply #16 posted 10/21/06 6:30am

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RiccoTheArtist said:

EmbattledWarrior said:

also heres a site with some prince tunes on tablature
http://www.911tabs.com/tabs/p/prince/
also if your that into visual aid, it might be wise, to analyze some prince concert videos, if your serious



Thanks much, that's what I've been doing but the man's hands move at a blurr, lol

Hey Ricco have you recorded ur cloud and symbol guitars?? I LOVE PRINCE GUITAR SOUND ill KEEP TRYING 2 GET it TILL I DIE!!! PoEPLE theres nothing wrong wanting to sound like ur heros, I SAY F..k Yo NEGATIVE PEOPLE!!
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Reply #17 posted 10/21/06 6:58am

RiccoTheArtist

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babar141 said:

RiccoTheArtist said:




Thanks much, that's what I've been doing but the man's hands move at a blurr, lol

Hey Ricco have you recorded ur cloud and symbol guitars?? I LOVE PRINCE GUITAR SOUND ill KEEP TRYING 2 GET it TILL I DIE!!! PoEPLE theres nothing wrong wanting to sound like ur heros, I SAY F..k Yo NEGATIVE PEOPLE!!



Hello Barar as you may know I'm not a player as of yet so I'm trying to get a guy I know to play while I record but he's so hard to get in touch with as soon as I do I'll post it for you, OK?
plus I'm adding a little bonus to my guitars and it's something I'll share with the players on this board

http://www.sustainiac.com...tm#pricing


and for the doityourselefers try this:

http://www.projectguitar....tainer.htm
it's made from parts at your local radio shack, more info;
http://projectguitar.ibfo...topic=5041
just read the posts on the page!

Peace

love you baby but not like my guitar
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Reply #18 posted 10/21/06 7:39am

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RiccoTheArtist said:

babar141 said:


Hey Ricco have you recorded ur cloud and symbol guitars?? I LOVE PRINCE GUITAR SOUND ill KEEP TRYING 2 GET it TILL I DIE!!! PoEPLE theres nothing wrong wanting to sound like ur heros, I SAY F..k Yo NEGATIVE PEOPLE!!



Hello Barar as you may know I'm not a player as of yet so I'm trying to get a guy I know to play while I record but he's so hard to get in touch with as soon as I do I'll post it for you, OK?
plus I'm adding a little bonus to my guitars and it's something I'll share with the players on this board

http://www.sustainiac.com...tm#pricing


and for the doityourselefers try this:

http://www.projectguitar....tainer.htm
it's made from parts at your local radio shack, more info;
http://projectguitar.ibfo...topic=5041
just read the posts on the page!

Peace

COOL OK wink
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Reply #19 posted 10/21/06 10:22am

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off topic

This will make our karaoke nights very special, LOL
those who have followed Prince knows this microphone, this one is mines


can't find these around any more, not with the silver only solid black.
old school Prince


now I want to make a gold gun mike!
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Reply #20 posted 10/29/06 2:26pm

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I think videos is a great way to learn. Some of us, unfortunately, just don't have the musical ear to pick up licks and chords from the actual sound. And even though so many guitarists can do that, I still think that skill is a plus and not mandatory, and those who can't shouldn't be deemed a horrible guitar player because they need a little more to understand stuff (a little off topic). But in anycase, videos can help a person in many ways. From easier fingering patterns, to alternate chords we may not have known, and it's a great motivater to be playing the songs you like and listen to. In addition, playing someone else's music can develop your all-around playing as well. So yea that's my two cents....


P.S. check the link in my signature for an easy introduction into Prince music smile
chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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