As a musician and a producer the concept of loops is one i have to deal with on a day to day basis. I kind of have a love - jhate relationship with them. they can really get me out of a bind, when i have trouble creating bass lines and drum lines, But i feel like "less" of a musicians by using them. When ever i construct asong by using loops only i feel like it isn't really "my" song.
i was wondering if anyone felt the same?

Loops can either be a poor substitute for real musicians or creative tools with a sound of their own. Sometimes, I like to sample and loop some of my own guitar playing whereas I could just as easily record the part live. Exact repetition can give a nice trance-like effect.

Anyway, I say: forget about "cheating" and stuff like that. Every musician has to work with what he's got and your limitations may well turn out to be your strengths in other people's ears.

To me, they're like a metronome. Nice to play with but I'd never take them on a stage.

2 repetitive 4 my taste.

I live in loops.... LOVE'M....

Aint real musicians clever looping machines with sore fingers ?????

I create loops but I actually play the notes myself and loop them, I don't use any presampled, prearranged, or preloaded loops. That's why I don't like using software to make music because I feel like less of a musician when I use other people's music, regardless if it's licensed for me to use or not.

I like looping because it gives me the ability to lay down my ideas quickly because I have SO many ideas for grooves in my head. I don't usually produce too many songs full of transitions because I get bored with the stuff before it's made.

I've always considered loops for the lazy or the non-talented.....

Graycap23 said:

I'm talented, definitely not lazy, but I have too many other things to do so I can't just take hours and hours to make a song....I have to shortcut alot of the time, and the result is that my stuff sounds like demos, but good demos I might add....

I wish a company would pay me $30,000 per year to produce and write music so that my full-time job was making music. Then I could take the time to make masterpieces, and indeed I would.

FirstLight said:

That comment was NOT 2 insult anyone. I just can't sit up and play the same 4 bar loop all day. I'd fall asleep.....I love changes and bridges and all that stuff.

Graycap23 said:

No offense taken, bro! It would be nice to work as a concept guy for a music company as my full-time job though- if you know someone, let me know!

TonyVanDam said:

Yep.... ground up... thats the way....


I think I'm more a samplyrasist than a looperician...

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Graycap23 said:

I totally agree with that, i love changes as well
and any good producer knows how to carve loops to generate choruses, bridges
its not about the repetativeness

im more focusing about using work or melodies u never created?
i think theirs something kinda wrong about that.

But then again... when your in a bind they can help you fill up some space in a song.

groovyiau said:

I take it that you never used FL Studio?



[Edited 7/14/06 22:26pm]

I been using the old model 3.4..... FL studio looks very nice....