Is there any better software to program drums on the PC? I just used fruity loops but I think it's rather limited. What do you all use to program drumz?

People tell me Battery (Native Instruments)is a great PC drum machine, but I haven't worked with it personally.

reason

Reason works pretty good too, that's what I use when not working with Bumper.

Can someone post a likn to reason//thanks in advance

tinababy83 said:

http://www.propellerheads...ts/reason/

your welcome...

7salles said:

I use FL Studio myself!

But as for drum machine programming, there's also Orion & Project5.

If you need more second opinions, go here:
http://www.kvraudio.com

I would Stay Away from any PC drums/kits/programs.... I am not going 2 blurt out what eye use either ...but its not PC software(its not like Prince told N E one that he was using the LINN, when it was what he liked/used)

... but try 2 find Hardware with Drum a Sound(s) u either Like/Want 2 work with... but I cant emphisize enuff... Stay Away from the PC... and get urself some equipment/hardware (i.e.: a drum machine)...

...The Drums keep Beat...correct?...It is like the Heart for the song...Ur Heart(if U no what eye mean).

4 what its worth...eye Hope this helps.

One
Michael
www.Fonkay.com

FonkAy said:

And here we have another winner. "Stay Away from the PC".

Novabreaker said:

Just to clarify my point once more: stay the hell away from hardware units, unless you are a collector. There is nothing they can't do that even a simple piece of freeware software couldn't.

FonkAy said:

For those of us trying to save money.....

Software is way more affordable than spending thousands of dollars on hardware!

And BTW, making beats like Prince & Dr. Dre are stupid-easier with FL Studio. Why not use the free FL Studio demo and see for yourself before bashing the software world next time!!!
[Edited 11/26/05 9:24am]

Well leaf drums is pretty good. I made a beat on it earlier, but how do you get more sounds for it?

I have been making records for about 15 years...and yes i understand that "DIGITAL" not just pcs or macs , can be kinda sterile and "GLASSY" but ...it all depends on what u do with it....if u record 100% digital...YES u will sound digital..if u import analog samples...or analog loops..or record your stuff even on a tape recorder first ...then u will have analog sound in your computer...a drum machine is nothing more than a sample player IE: a mini computer...!!!!! and REAL COMPUTERS ARE !00% more powerful than any drum machine...

Another vote for the PC here.

A good drum machine type VSTi and the samples of whatever machine you fancy at the time is the best option if you're on a tight budget (and who isn't?).

I miss the knob twiddling, hands-on nature of my old drum machines etc. but I don't miss the tiny screens, clunky interfaces, cables and the space they consume.

In answer to the original Q, I use the Muon VSTi SR-202, which comes free on the cover disc of UK magazine Computer Music every month. Weell, it does the job.
[Edited 11/27/05 21:22pm]

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[Edited 11/28/05 13:31pm]

I've heard Batter2 is good. For all the lazy ppl there is also a vsti that generates drum loops itself. You can later modify them as you wish. It is midi based so you can use it with anything (vsti/dxi/samples/ect). Not sure about the name...I think it is called Slicy Drummer.

How bout this... U do Ur thing and eyell do mine...

Eye am happy where eye am (using the Mac 4 Recording - GarageBand here, nothing fancy on the Mac end ).. if U R happy with the PC and using it 4 more than recording (as far a music is concerned) thats no problem 2 me... Good 4 U ...

I will check out what you all said bout the software... but U do no that people jack midi files? Nd then front like Ur stuff is theirs. Analog has been round from the get go - U no CDs do the job and R easy 2 produce... but there is nothing like hearing something from Vinyl.

I too love the PC/Mac as a communications tool and think that PC/Macs are a good thing - but just not for drums.

One
Michael
www.Fonkay.com

PS - eye dont collect hardware... and some software can b way more Xpensive than some equipment ... it was just my suggestion.
[Edited 11/29/05 23:05pm]

FunkJam said:

Search the web, use google for keywords. Or sample records. The great thing about leafDrums is that it allows you to use an infinite number of different samples on a project, and it also has infinite number of tracks. Most commercial products have limits for that, even if there'd be no reason for it

FonkAy said:

Well, then you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

There is no rational reason why anyone should think a harware unit could somehow sound or function better than a piece of software. Hardware units are still mostly software themselves, anyway. Just running on a far less powerful processor and more limited user-interface. They are still computers themselves.

Novabreaker said:

Yes... they R computers...Fine... but they R not a PC.
(that is what makin music looks like 2 U?)

Nd as far as limited/sound or functions goes....What drum machines have U been workin with jack?!?
(U must b using a tabourine 4 Ur drum machine)

New Music @
www.Fonkay.com
As of 12.07.2005

One Love
Michael
[Edited 12/6/05 21:20pm]

FonkAy said:

Exactomundo.




With "jack"? Plenty of them, plus there is a "hardware drum machine" in all of the sequential gear I've ever fiddled with - besides it really comes down to just understanding how technology works in general and not making false assumptions on limited amount of knowledge, which is exactly what you are doing. You are free to work with any method you choose yourself, but do not provide unrationalized views to people who are asking for helps/tips at net forums. Especially when we are talking about things that matter financially to them (and they may not always realize that themselves). I can't personally tolerate that "you need to buy these kind of units I am using" -mentality when there are better and free alternatives out there, that should be at least tried first. Get informed first.

Show me a hardware drum machine where you can freely import an unlimited amount of your own samples into it, and while we are at it, show me a hardware drum machine where that operation can be performed easier than on a 19" computer screen, and then we can continue this discussion.



I don't think this comment or any of your others demand that much further attention from me. But good luck with your activities in music production and I hope you will make some good tracks in the future that other people can enjoy as well.

No comment... eye have Faith in what eye am doing.

One Love
Michael
www.Fonkay.com
(New Nd Improved Design Coming Soon)
[Edited 12/7/05 9:50am]

jamstix is good for helping with ideas.
stylus rmx is too.
sometimes i like just to play them in (keyboard) then edit but, i can't replicate the feel i get from playing live drums (no matter how many velocity layers the sample set has). it takes too much editing.

I think Fruity Loops is a great name for that program because it is the exact feeling it leaves you with. I have used it, but it left me feeling like a fruit going in loops.