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Thread started 11/19/05 5:37pm

cloud9mission

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Studio troubles :(

Ok so Ive been trying to get any version of cubase to run on my PC since november 2003! Ive have 3 different sound cards (all 'recommended' by stienberg), Ive tried 5 different version of cubase (some cracks, some paid for), Ive tried 3 different opperating systems and Ive even changed the motherboard on here twice since my problems started.

No matter what I try or how much money I spend, its still the same damn error. The audio is horrible out of sync with midi as well as itself. Just sounds horrid. Im fairly sure its not something Im doing as Ive had lots of friends try to fix it for me and they cannot find anything wrong in the settings.

Im reaching the end of how much time, patience and money I have to spend on this thing. I realise the best option is to get a mac like some of you lucky folks here but its WAY out of my price bracket sad. Just wondering if anyone could suggest a fix or a different PC software? All I need it to be able to programe midi and record audio over the top of it.

Thanks

Lewis
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Reply #1 posted 11/20/05 10:13am

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I can't help much with Cubase cuz I don't use it too often. You can try to run the diagnosis thing they have. Maybe it's a case of a wrong buffer size, dunno. It's hard to tell...to little details.

However, there is a pretty cool progam Sonar 4. Some say that it's not as pro as Cubase (def less popular, that's for sure) but it has a really intuitive midi editing and audio recording. It records both audio and midi and it operates with VST and DX plugins. One of the coolest thing is that you can record multiple layers to a single track (for example let's say you have a track 'chorus' with all the effects added and you can record all backing vocals into a single track) You might wanna check it out.

Hope that it helps. wink
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Reply #2 posted 11/20/05 1:39pm

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Start saving your money and get a Mac...I switched over a few years back...and I'll never own a PC again...nothing but headaches and I don't want to spend precious time being a tech head when all I want to do is plug in and play before the inspiration is gone.
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Reply #3 posted 11/22/05 7:06am

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FrankAxtell said:

Start saving your money and get a Mac...I switched over a few years back...and I'll never own a PC again...nothing but headaches and I don't want to spend precious time being a tech head when all I want to do is plug in and play before the inspiration is gone.


thumbs up! I need to do that also!
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Reply #4 posted 11/22/05 11:59am

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MACs have come down incredibly in price over the last couple of years as well. Still, the extra few bucks you put into one pays for itself over time. More options, specs, etc ...

To answer your question, get an iMac for starters. Awesome little beast. The software that comes with it out of the box (Garageband) should hold you over just fine until you can buy some more sophisticated software like Logic.

I still use my G3 laptop almost everyday and it's about 7 years old now. Once you go MAC, you don't go back baby!
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Reply #5 posted 11/22/05 1:26pm

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Oh please, you crackheads!

I mean Mackheads!

I started out on a Mac back in 1991 (IIcx with 4megs ram and a huge 40meg hard drive. Yes. 40 MEG) and went through some macs back then, and then got a gig designing websites and switched over to a PC.

And then switched back to a Mac for testing two years ago.

I can't speak for the music software, but PCs have so much more development going on - free software, easy to manage software. Mac software is more, it's usually an afterthought to the PC version so it lacks features found on the PC version. PCs can be had for a song because you can make your own, piece by piece. I think you can do that with a Mac, but I know that Mac retains their licence so a lot of the stuff has to come from Apple, resulting in a monopoly.

But sure, they're prettier. And I definitely loved knowing what the hell was going into the system directory, and knowing how to operate on the software if I had to... with PC's, I'm clueless.

But, I would take a PC over a Mac. If you had $1,000, you'd come away with a much better machine on the PC world.
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Reply #6 posted 11/22/05 1:52pm

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I take it it's been a while since you were on a MAC.



That's like saying F' Poniac, I had one of them 82 trans-ams and my new 2005 Ford pick-up kicks ass.

Microsoft is going to be under a lot of FEDERAL litigation for quite some time and their future development will be at almost a nill until they work out their current bugs which should keep them pretty busy for the next 10 years or so.

Mac, smack. Just get a unix/linux box period. Apple just so happened to make it work for the artist. Better yet, go to an apple store, sit down and play with some of the music software and most of the stores have one with a synth hooked up to it. Just try it.



Windows is a PROGRAM running PROGRAMS on top of it. If the PRIMARY PROGRAM is not stable neither are your other PROGRAMS. MACs are unix based and the PROGRAMS are independent of each other plain and simple. And there is the strength. Problems arise in the PROGRAMS and if a PROGRAM is your primary Operating System (OS) then you have some major problems.
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Reply #7 posted 11/22/05 2:45pm

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MAC sucks...just playing. I have a PC> lol
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Reply #8 posted 11/22/05 5:13pm

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I hate to say it but Apple will probably go the road-map of Microsoft in the future. The higher they get in market share and all, they will probably compromise a lot of their architectural integrity. In fact, by 2007 they will have intel chips. Who knows. They seem really confident. The transition of software will be a nightmare, no doubt even though steve jobs swore up and down he had a fix for that. Just so you know some of us MAC users are a little worried with this next phase.

But not right at this moment. My macs kick butt.

Just keep in mind that your computer is your tool in creating a digital medium. Buy a computer like you are buying a car and ask yourself "what is the best milage I'm going to get off this thing?" Most PC software updates mean OS updates and PC OS updates mean a plethra of software updates. As a musician/artist, there isn't much time and energy to be devoted as a programer as well. And that means doing some consumer research and learning what both parties have in the pipeline down the road. It's the same 'ol Ford, Chevy, Craftsman, you name it debate in the end.

Still ... Microsoft's "Longhorn" still seems quite a "long way" from completion.

As far as computers, MACs have always worked for me. Never had a virus, nor have I read someone even making one for OSX. Never get system failures. Never had a problem period. The tools available are phenominal and just plain 'ol intuitive. The computer has always worked for me instead of me making the computer work.

And I'll shut up there.
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Reply #9 posted 11/23/05 10:53pm

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Have a PC. Love it... may not be a Mac but it aint programming with all outboard gear and an 8trk HDR either wink

I'm working in Steinberg's Nuendo and it works with my EMU 1820m soundcard like a dream. I doubt your problem is the PC esp. with all the upgrades/updates you've performed.

Drop some specifics and maybe I can be of more help.

What soundcards have you tried?
Computer specs?
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Reply #10 posted 11/25/05 3:29am

Novabreaker

cloud9mission said:

Ok so Ive been trying to get any version of cubase to run on my PC since november 2003! Ive have 3 different sound cards (all 'recommended' by stienberg), Ive tried 5 different version of cubase (some cracks, some paid for), Ive tried 3 different opperating systems and Ive even changed the motherboard on here twice since my problems started.


Cheap motherborads can often cause these errors as they are not always compatible with low-latency soundcards. So does defect RAM. I used to have myself an old PCI videocard (not AGP) that was causing the audio to stutter, because it was too slow for the rest of the system.

From your description my first guess is that you just might haven't performed the syncing operation that the Cubase VST-brethren programs require you to do before using the software. There should simply be just an .exe-file with some options depending on your soundcard. The actual name of the file eludes me now, but it should reside in the same directory as the other .exe files.

Im reaching the end of how much time, patience and money I have to spend on this thing. I realise the best option is to get a mac


Then you're going down the wrong route. I've worked with a bona-fide G5 system at work and it performs just as bad, or worse, as any PC I had prior to the perfectly operating Windows XP recording system that I have now. Macs aren't any more reliable than PCs are these days, definitely less powerful, but it's your choice. If you think it's Microsoft's fault that your MIDI is out of sync with audio then you're just fooling yourself.

And other thing: cracks will screw up your system no matter what, these are very complex pieces of software, but that's the price you will have to pay if you want to use cracks. At least it usually takes more time to sort everything out, I know we all cannot afford everything.

Just wondering if anyone could suggest a fix or a different PC software? All I need it to be able to programe midi and record audio over the top of it.


Any software should work, they work for others so they should work for you. I know how frustrating it can be sometimes be.
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Reply #11 posted 11/25/05 3:30am

Novabreaker

rushing07 said:


However, there is a pretty cool progam Sonar 4. Some say that it's not as pro as Cubase (def less popular, that's for sure).


The Cakewalk products have actually always been more popular than Cubase.
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Reply #12 posted 11/25/05 12:39pm

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yamomma said:

I take it it's been a while since you were on a MAC.





falloff

I have one of these.

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It's in the corner of my room, collecting dust. shhh
I still have all my college assignments and ideas from that time period on it.
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Reply #13 posted 11/28/05 6:14am

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Vina! lol

You know, you could probably make a bundle off that thing on ebay. There are die-hard MAC collectors out there believe it or not.

I'd be curious as to what you would get for it.
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Reply #14 posted 11/28/05 7:08am

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yamomma said:

Vina! lol

You know, you could probably make a bundle off that thing on ebay. There are die-hard MAC collectors out there believe it or not.

I'd be curious as to what you would get for it.


I paid $30 bucks for it at a thrift store!
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Reply #15 posted 11/28/05 12:36pm

marcdeondotcom

yamomma said:

Vina! lol

You know, you could probably make a bundle off that thing on ebay. There are die-hard MAC collectors out there believe it or not.

I'd be curious as to what you would get for it.


hmmm I have an SE that I need to unload
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