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Thread started 12/13/04 6:21pm

Luv4oneanotha

MIDI is it even Worth it? Frustrations

Alright currently whilst recording i have to go through process's
creating 3 demos which leads up to tha last polished one


The First one i create is MIDI, using midi voices etc...
Sometimes during this process the demo sounds so good i want to keep it likes this

Then i go to the second demo
replacing some of the instruments with synths (plug-in) it kinda takes away from its production etc
Adding Auutomated mixing etc and polishing it with effects
The third if it even comes to the third
is making all the instruments out of audio
editing the piece for lyrics etc...
the final peice would be the last portion
but by this time the song sounds totally different from how it did in Midi
which is kinda Frustrating!
Now someone told me that their is away to record midi
but I DON't KNOw HOW
from my knowledge MIDI is silent and can only be activated if your midi controller is on
once the midi controller is off it doesn't exist anymore

now im no expert but thats really all i know
is their a way i can just keep some midi tracks into the final production?

in the paticular track im working on
the main melody hook is using Stereo Gamelan Gonngs instrument which i can't find on my present synths
this sound puts the whole song together

HELPPPPP
I really don't want to change it
[Edited 12/13/04 18:28pm]
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Reply #1 posted 12/13/04 6:29pm

Heavenly

MIDI is just a bunch of codes that tell the module/sampler/other MIDI controlled machines, what to do.
It IS 'silent'. it has no sound.
Recording MIDI means recording those codes on a MIDI track, which after you can correct notes and do some editing to perfect the playing a bit more, and even choose a different sound that will play instead of the one you used while playing.

There is no way to record MIDI as sound, for it has no sound.

You can, however record the module that plays the sounds that the MIDI track is directed at. Just plug the audio outs of that module to your sound card, open an audio track and record it.
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Reply #2 posted 12/13/04 7:10pm

Luv4oneanotha

Heavenly said:

MIDI is just a bunch of codes that tell the module/sampler/other MIDI controlled machines, what to do.
It IS 'silent'. it has no sound.
Recording MIDI means recording those codes on a MIDI track, which after you can correct notes and do some editing to perfect the playing a bit more, and even choose a different sound that will play instead of the one you used while playing.

There is no way to record MIDI as sound, for it has no sound.

You can, however record the module that plays the sounds that the MIDI track is directed at. Just plug the audio outs of that module to your sound card, open an audio track and record it.


ahhh you might have so
something thier.....
and how do you do this wise one?
wouldn't i need a mic?
where do i plug in the audio outputs on my module?
in Phones maybe
sorry lol
Im knew to recording


sank you lol
[Edited 12/13/04 19:17pm]
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Reply #3 posted 12/13/04 7:17pm

Heavenly

Luv4oneanotha said:

Heavenly said:

MIDI is just a bunch of codes that tell the module/sampler/other MIDI controlled machines, what to do.
It IS 'silent'. it has no sound.
Recording MIDI means recording those codes on a MIDI track, which after you can correct notes and do some editing to perfect the playing a bit more, and even choose a different sound that will play instead of the one you used while playing.

There is no way to record MIDI as sound, for it has no sound.

You can, however record the module that plays the sounds that the MIDI track is directed at. Just plug the audio outs of that module to your sound card, open an audio track and record it.


ahhh you might have so
something thier.....
and how do you do this wise one?
wouldn't i need a mic?

sank you lol


Well, most if not all instruments controlled by MIDI today have LINE outputs. No need for a mic.
If you're using outboard, then plug from the Line Out of your outboard to the Line In of your soundcard.
If you're using software instruments, then just expost that track as an audio file. how? depends which program you use.
If you tell me exactly which tools you have (keyboard, keyboard model, sound card, recording software) I might be able to help explain with more details.
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Reply #4 posted 12/13/04 7:21pm

Luv4oneanotha

Heavenly said:

Luv4oneanotha said:



ahhh you might have so
something thier.....
and how do you do this wise one?
wouldn't i need a mic?

sank you lol


Well, most if not all instruments controlled by MIDI today have LINE outputs. No need for a mic.
If you're using outboard, then plug from the Line Out of your outboard to the Line In of your soundcard.
If you're using software instruments, then just expost that track as an audio file. how? depends which program you use.
If you tell me exactly which tools you have (keyboard, keyboard model, sound card, recording software) I might be able to help explain with more details.


Yamaha Keyboard model PSR - 275 (ack i know)
CoreAudio
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Reply #5 posted 12/13/04 7:23pm

Luv4oneanotha

oh and Logic 6
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Reply #6 posted 12/13/04 7:26pm

Heavenly

hmm...I'm not familiar with those.
OK, let's see. If you recorded your MIDI already, and using the sounds of your Yamaha keyboard, then what you do is this -
The MIDI out of your sound card should be connected to the Yamaha MIDI IN.
The Line Out of your Yamaha should be connected to the Line In of your sound card.
Open an audio track in your recording software. set the input to the Line In of the sound card.
The output of the Midi Track that was already recorded should be set to the MIDI Out of the sound card.
Set the audio track on record. go to the beginning of the track and record the audio track. wink
After recording the audio track you can unplug your keyboard. no use for it anymore biggrin
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