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PrintableTA it is easy to see why your music sounds the way it does. So full of deep jazz influences. You play stuff that many people only dream they could "hear", let alone play themselves. | |
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talmuzic said: TA it is easy to see why your music sounds the way it does. So full of deep jazz influences.
tal thanks but I wish I could play a 10th of what I hear. I honestly regret not having studied music seriously early in life. (that's why my kids are getting music lessons as one of their xmas gifts  )
It makes certain things so much easier just as you've outlined. The only thing that gets me by is the fact that my dad was a major bebop fan. He and his friends would try and out do each other with their record collections. Who had the latest, greatest, hippest albums. So I would hear all this stuff even though I didn't understand it. Luckily all the music stays in your subconscious somewhere which hopefully has allowed me to have a feel for Jazz. However i'd never, in my wildest dreams, call myself a Jazz player. But if you hear it in some of the stuff that I do, i'm extremely flattered and appreciative. 
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artist08 said: And, of course, those who can barely read at all:
Courtney Love she's actually VERY well-read. | |
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most pop musicians can't read music. most are self-taught. | |
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Can't read music?
As in incapable? If thats true then you are a complete moron. A monkey could learn how to read the notes on a staff. Don't read music? That would be a more accurate representation of what these artist mean. Its not that freaking hard to learn how the staff works. I think that most artist's make statements like that to appeal to the glamour of ignorance. i.e. its cool to educate yourself Notation is a form of communication. Its what it was created for before CD's and makes sense for complex ensembles to play together The reason it is an issue is because of the musical education system that is backwards for the music that is relevant to most of the culture today. Dirt http://www.dirt.bz | |
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GaryMF said: newpowerboy said: Prince can't read music. He has told that many times
Really?? I used to read every article about him from 84 to 90 and I never remember himevery saying any such thing. I'd be pretty shocked if he can't read it. I knwo we can't go by this, but in the movie The Kid reads and writes music  (Then again, in Glitter, so did "Billie", Maraih's character, and she has said she doesn't read music, although she has an amazing ear, but then again she doesn't play instruments)
So do you have a source? Cuz this is just shocking to me andI can't believe I would have missed this... (ps I have the Vault and all those books too). Oh, and Prince studied music in high school, so he mustve learned theory and notation there,. For what it's worth... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL (1976) ----- (What follows is a transcript of Prince's very first interview. It appeared in his high school newspaper on February 16, 1976. It is accompanied by a picture of a young afro-clad Prince sitting at a piano.) ----- Nelson Finds It "Hard To Become Known" "I play with Grand Central Corporation. I've been playing with them for two years," Prince Nelson, senior at Central, said. Prince started playing piano at age seven and guitar when he got out of eighth grade. Prince was born in Minneapolis. When asked, he said, "I was born here, unfortunately." Why? "I think it is very hard for a band to make it in this state, even if they're good. Mainly because there aren't any big record companies or studios in this state. I really feel that if we would have lived in Los Angeles or New York or some other big city, we would have gotten over by now." He likes Central a great deal, because his music teachers let him work on his own. He now is working with Mr. Bickham, a music teacher at Central, but has been working with Mrs. Doepkes. He plays several instruments, such as guitar, bass, all keyboards, and drums. He also sings sometimes, which he picked up recently. He played saxophone in seventh grade but gave it up. He regrets he did. He quit playing sax when school ended one summer. He never had time to practice sax anymore when he went back to school. He does not play in the school band. Why? "I really don't have time to make the concerts." Prince has a brother that goes to Central whose name is Duane Nelson, who is more athletically enthusiastic. He plays on the basketball team and played on the football team. Duane is also a senior. Prince plays by ear. "I've had about two lessons, but they didn't help much. I think you'll always be able to do what your ear tells you, so just think how great you'd be with lessons also," he said. "I advise anyone who wants to learn guitar to get a teacher unless they are very musically inclined. One should learn all their scales too. That is very important," he continued. Prince would also like to say that his band is in the process of recording an album containing songs they have composed. It should be released during the early part of the summer. "Eventually I would like to go to college and start lessons again when I'm much older." http://princetext.tripod.com/i_hs.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= tA Tribal Disorder
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Yeah I read that article too.
It doesn't confirm he cant' read... ikt just says he plays by ear. They are not mutually exclusive. It would be interesting to know though. Especailly since "The Kid" not only reads notation, he writes it  |
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GaryMF said: Yeah I read that article too.
It doesn't confirm he cant' read... ikt just says he plays by ear. They are not mutually exclusive. It would be interesting to know though. Especailly since "The Kid" not only reads notation, he writes it True but "The Kid" is a character. Could just be a case of... "P here. I'm not really a music reader, I just play one in the movies." In the final analysis, does it really matter? 
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Dirt said: Can't read music?
As in incapable? If thats true then you are a complete moron. A monkey could learn how to read the notes on a staff. Don't read music? That would be a more accurate representation of what these artist mean. Its not that freaking hard to learn how the staff works. I think that most artist's make statements like that to appeal to the glamour of ignorance. i.e. its cool to educate yourself Notation is a form of communication. Its what it was created for before CD's and makes sense for complex ensembles to play together The reason it is an issue is because of the musical education system that is backwards for the music that is relevant to most of the culture today. Dirt http://www.dirt.bz Not being able to read music doesn't make anyone a moron. You shouldn't generalize. It undercuts the points you're trying to get across. Besides, monkeys have better things to do... My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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BB King.
In U2's "Rattle and Hum," there is a scene with Bono and BB in which BB asks about a song they are getting ready to play. BB is pretty upfront with Bono and makes sure he knows that BB plays by feel and can't read music. It's been 10 years since i've seen that scene, but I think BB says something like "I don't know chords" or maybe "read chords". something like that. SRV I know he's been listed, but it still amazes me that he played like he did without knowing much music theory at all. Just feelin, baby. | |
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