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Thread started 03/01/04 2:41am

Abrazo

NPG... get stupid, get stupid!

How stupid can you get?

Going on record stating a promise that members will be members for life is the most stupid thing they could have done...ever. Once the club has made up its mind for a new scheme of things (new price, new "content" etc.) they will revoke this promise, claim it was never meant that way and all hell will break lose: All the fams will come crying and complaining in here... again... that orgers are nothing but a bunch of haters and that they shouldnt take things so literally, but support Prince because he has given "so much for free" and stop being so selfish and yadda yadda yadda. And all naysayers will have their final laugh again and bitch and bitch about how they told all y'all that the NPGMC is not worth joining. And the entire circus will run crazy again, thanks to some stupid promise. Lord, how stupid can people get....
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Reply #1 posted 03/01/04 3:53am

Tom

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Abrazo said:

How stupid can you get?

Going on record stating a promise that members will be members for life is the most stupid thing they could have done...ever. Once the club has made up its mind for a new scheme of things (new price, new "content" etc.) they will revoke this promise, claim it was never meant that way and all hell will break lose: All the fams will come crying and complaining in here... again... that orgers are nothing but a bunch of haters and that they shouldnt take things so literally, but support Prince because he has given "so much for free" and stop being so selfish and yadda yadda yadda. And all naysayers will have their final laugh again and bitch and bitch about how they told all y'all that the NPGMC is not worth joining. And the entire circus will run crazy again, thanks to some stupid promise. Lord, how stupid can people get....


I might have missed something, but I dont recall them saying "for life" exactly. I think they just mentioned that current members will remain members for now, without giving a timeline of how long.
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Reply #2 posted 03/01/04 4:14am

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It was not announced 'for life' , Members will not have to re-new membership is what was posted.
"If you really want something in this life, you have to work for it - Now quiet, they're about to announce the lottery numbers!"

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Reply #3 posted 03/01/04 5:55am

Abrazo

I don't have the actual quote from the pp's, but I have seen it, it is true and the talk has spread that it is "forever"or "for life" and actual quotes from the pp's have been shown.

quote Haystack: "We were told that all existing members would remain members forever, by the PPs"

ShowMePeaceLove quote: " JOIN THE NPGMC ONLY 25.00 THAT IT IN U R A MEMBER OF NPGMC 4 LIFE ...NO MORE JOINING EVERY YEAR ...U R A MEMBER 2 DAY THE NEXT DAY NEXT MONTH IN NEXT YEAR ...U R A MEMBER 4EVER"

It was not announced 'for life' , Members will not have to re-new membership is what was posted.

The words were along the lines of "for life". Even if they weren't but like you said then you can still say you don't have to renew membership when the club renews.
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Reply #4 posted 03/01/04 5:56am

Abrazo

Tom said:


I might have missed something, but I dont recall them saying "for life" exactly. I think they just mentioned that current members will remain members for now, without giving a timeline of how long.
Valid indefinitly therefore without a condition on when the membership may end. Plain stupid of them to state in public.
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Reply #5 posted 03/02/04 1:41pm

OneMoJam

I'm lost.

Is this a rant about some mix of tangible and intangible benefits that we'll get over an extended period of time of indeterminate length by having paid the bank-breaking (I was tempted to say "pincely") sum of $25?

Or is it about something of actual significance?
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Reply #6 posted 03/02/04 1:51pm

SassyFras

all i know is about a year ago, i joined the club for 25 bucks. at first i was cool with the offerings. eventually things got sketchy. things cleared up. now, there is no new membership fee. maybe just for now. maybe longer. but, regardless, i have tickets for la and i'll soon have presale tickets for chicago and champaign. no ticketmaster fees. no taxes. cool.
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Reply #7 posted 03/02/04 2:22pm

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Good point SpiceyAss...not having to pay exorbitant TM fees is a HUUUUUGE benefit to me. It feels so much better to drop money on concert tickets than it has in a long time!!! Those fees are depressingly large.
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Reply #8 posted 03/02/04 2:40pm

SassyFras

theblueangel said:

Good point SpiceyAss...not having to pay exorbitant TM fees is a HUUUUUGE benefit to me. It feels so much better to drop money on concert tickets than it has in a long time!!! Those fees are depressingly large.

you know those fees for the la show were the equivelant of a membership fee. plus, supposedly the new cd is being given out to those who buy a ticket. not to mention the added benefits of free aftershow parties (where applicable). yeah, not so bad for spending 25 bucks a year ago.
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Reply #9 posted 03/02/04 2:43pm

Universaluv

No offense but this seems a tad premature. Are some of us just looking for some reason, any reason at all, to be ticked off at the club now? Now it's things that the club hasn't actually done but we anticipate the club will do?

Right now the sign-up page says "NO XPIRATION DATE". Now if at some distant point in the future this all goes horribly wrong, then fine, I'll be the first to co-sign your thread complaining about it. Although, considering I signed up last year and didn't expect at all for the benefits to extend into this year I wont be complaining too loudly.

Till that horrible, horrible day, I'm just gonna enjoy my great seats at the Prince concert next month that costs me the outrageous premium of $25 that I paid almost a year ago. The Bastards, how could they do that to me! :insert sarcasm here:


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[This message was edited Tue Mar 2 14:48:45 2004 by Universaluv]
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Reply #10 posted 03/02/04 2:54pm

eversolesa

The Deal was ....your membership is good as long as there is a Club smile
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Reply #11 posted 03/03/04 1:10am

Abrazo

Universaluv said:

No offense but this seems a tad premature. Are some of us just looking for some reason, any reason at all, to be ticked off at the club now? Now it's things that the club hasn't actually done but we anticipate the club will do?

Right now the sign-up page says "NO XPIRATION DATE". Now if at some distant point in the future this all goes horribly wrong, then fine, I'll be the first to co-sign your thread complaining about it. Although, considering I signed up last year and didn't expect at all for the benefits to extend into this year I wont be complaining too loudly.

Till that horrible, horrible day, I'm just gonna enjoy my great seats at the Prince concert next month that costs me the outrageous premium of $25 that I paid almost a year ago. The Bastards, how could they do that to me! :insert sarcasm here:


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[This message was edited Tue Mar 2 14:48:45 2004 by Universaluv]

http://biz.yahoo.com/prne...150_1.html

"Press Release
Source: NPG Music Club


NEW YORK, March 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Membership has its privileges indeed. This week musical superstar Prince announced plans 4 his biggest tour in six years.

But if you want the best seats in the house, want to avoid the surcharges of ticket brokers plus receive a free copy of his upcoming new album, you have to join the club ...

Prince's own NPG Music Club. New members are being accepted at www.NPGMusicClub.com and the lifetime membership is only $25. "


There ya go.... Now for some more incredible shit:


"Fans of Prince have always received special benefits and the artist has been way ahead of the competition in the digital world. ( nuts)

In the Club's first year, members received several unreleased MP3 downloads and videos, in addition to pre-sales on all Prince concerts (There were hardly any concerts the first year).

In the years that followed, members received exclusive and unreleased CDs (They were NOT exclusive, but sold through retail for less and even before members got them),

plus special access to after parties, surprise gigs, and pre-show sound checks at each concert.(LIES- there were no after parties at "each" concert and often members had to pay extra up to 100$ for access. Cha ching! )

Members also received free copies of the 3-CD box set One Nite Alone ... Live (LIES - ONA Live was NOT "free"),

and they were invited to the famous Paisley Park for a 7-day concert experience. (Yeah... for only a mere several extra hundred dollars)

More breakthrough announcements for NPGMusicClub.com are on the horizon.(Yeah like even more "free" cd's?)

In the meantime, Prince will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on March 15th. The launch of the tour on March 29 also coincides with the release of Prince's new CD, "Musicology." All of a sudden I really don't give a fuck about that anymore.)"


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[This message was edited Wed Mar 3 1:35:52 2004 by Abrazo]
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Reply #12 posted 03/03/04 1:16am

Abrazo

So they call it in their own press release: "a lifetime membership". How clear can it get?

Do you people actually expect the NPGMC to give you a LIFETIME membership???

Do you really believe the NPGMC will be around your entire life???

Then you must be insane.

This is NOT a "complaint", universallove. This is criticism on the incredibly stupid and MISLEADING announcements the club makes. The club is not going to honour this promise, because even if they wanted to, THEY CAN'T.

But now, all the freaks who hadn't joined yet, go and become a member, for only 25$ (yeah... what's 25$ when you mislead tens of thousands of peoples with promising bullshit??? Right, a half to a million dollars, or even more), because they believe they will be a member for life, receive free cd's when purchasing a concert ticket (for "only" 125$), and the NPGMC is the only place where to get front row tickets.

To me this just another shameless NPGMC scam.

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Reply #13 posted 03/03/04 5:26am

SassyBritches

nuts
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Reply #14 posted 03/03/04 6:04am

Abrazo

SassyBritches said:

nuts

oohhh boohooh, still pissed off at me.
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Reply #15 posted 03/03/04 7:40am

NPGLOVER

Abrazo said:

Universaluv said:

No offense but this seems a tad premature. Are some of us just looking for some reason, any reason at all, to be ticked off at the club now? Now it's things that the club hasn't actually done but we anticipate the club will do?

Right now the sign-up page says "NO XPIRATION DATE". Now if at some distant point in the future this all goes horribly wrong, then fine, I'll be the first to co-sign your thread complaining about it. Although, considering I signed up last year and didn't expect at all for the benefits to extend into this year I wont be complaining too loudly.

Till that horrible, horrible day, I'm just gonna enjoy my great seats at the Prince concert next month that costs me the outrageous premium of $25 that I paid almost a year ago. The Bastards, how could they do that to me! :insert sarcasm here:


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[This message was edited Tue Mar 2 14:48:45 2004 by Universaluv]

http://biz.yahoo.com/prne...150_1.html

"Press Release
Source: NPG Music Club


NEW YORK, March 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Membership has its privileges indeed. This week musical superstar Prince announced plans 4 his biggest tour in six years.

But if you want the best seats in the house, want to avoid the surcharges of ticket brokers plus receive a free copy of his upcoming new album, you have to join the club ...

Prince's own NPG Music Club. New members are being accepted at www.NPGMusicClub.com and the lifetime membership is only $25. "


There ya go.... Now for some more incredible shit:


"Fans of Prince have always received special benefits and the artist has been way ahead of the competition in the digital world. ( nuts)

In the Club's first year, members received several unreleased MP3 downloads and videos, in addition to pre-sales on all Prince concerts (There were hardly any concerts the first year).

In the years that followed, members received exclusive and unreleased CDs (They were NOT exclusive, but sold through retail for less and even before members got them),

plus special access to after parties, surprise gigs, and pre-show sound checks at each concert.(LIES- there were no after parties at "each" concert and often members had to pay extra up to 100$ for access. Cha ching! )

Members also received free copies of the 3-CD box set One Nite Alone ... Live (LIES - ONA Live was NOT "free"),

and they were invited to the famous Paisley Park for a 7-day concert experience. (Yeah... for only a mere several extra hundred dollars)

More breakthrough announcements for NPGMusicClub.com are on the horizon.(Yeah like even more "free" cd's?)

In the meantime, Prince will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on March 15th. The launch of the tour on March 29 also coincides with the release of Prince's new CD, "Musicology." All of a sudden I really don't give a fuck about that anymore.)"


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[This message was edited Wed Mar 3 1:35:52 2004 by Abrazo]



Well youre obviously unhappy and I dont care to change that in regards to NPGMC. However, there are some overlooked facts. Xenophobia was $250 - not several hundred dollars. I didnt pay anything for the ONA live box set - it just came in the mail (I am a current member). I also saw 2 aftershows on the ONA tour that I got into free because my name was on the member list.

Just some truth to go with the criticism
[This message was edited Wed Mar 3 7:41:23 2004 by NPGLOVER]
...cause FACE said so!!!
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Reply #16 posted 03/03/04 8:31am

Abrazo

NPGLOVER said:

Abrazo said:


http://biz.yahoo.com/prne...150_1.html

"Press Release
Source: NPG Music Club


NEW YORK, March 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Membership has its privileges indeed. This week musical superstar Prince announced plans 4 his biggest tour in six years.

But if you want the best seats in the house, want to avoid the surcharges of ticket brokers plus receive a free copy of his upcoming new album, you have to join the club ...

Prince's own NPG Music Club. New members are being accepted at www.NPGMusicClub.com and the lifetime membership is only $25. "


There ya go.... Now for some more incredible shit:


"Fans of Prince have always received special benefits and the artist has been way ahead of the competition in the digital world. ( nuts)

In the Club's first year, members received several unreleased MP3 downloads and videos, in addition to pre-sales on all Prince concerts (There were hardly any concerts the first year).

In the years that followed, members received exclusive and unreleased CDs (They were NOT exclusive, but sold through retail for less and even before members got them),

plus special access to after parties, surprise gigs, and pre-show sound checks at each concert.(LIES- there were no after parties at "each" concert and often members had to pay extra up to 100$ for access. Cha ching! )

Members also received free copies of the 3-CD box set One Nite Alone ... Live (LIES - ONA Live was NOT "free"),

and they were invited to the famous Paisley Park for a 7-day concert experience. (Yeah... for only a mere several extra hundred dollars)

More breakthrough announcements for NPGMusicClub.com are on the horizon.(Yeah like even more "free" cd's?)

In the meantime, Prince will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on March 15th. The launch of the tour on March 29 also coincides with the release of Prince's new CD, "Musicology." All of a sudden I really don't give a fuck about that anymore.)"


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[This message was edited Wed Mar 3 1:35:52 2004 by Abrazo]



Well youre obviously unhappy and I dont care to change that in regards to NPGMC. However, there are some overlooked facts. Xenophobia was $250 - not several hundred dollars. I didnt pay anything for the ONA live box set - it just came in the mail (I am a current member). I also saw 2 aftershows on the ONA tour that I got into free because my name was on the member list.

Just some truth to go with the criticism
[This message was edited Wed Mar 3 7:41:23 2004 by NPGLOVER]

I'm unhappy with their continuing blatant lies and misleading promotion yes. It reminds me a lot of 2002 when they advertised members would get 4 new exclusive albums. Well, no way they did.

So 250 dollars... fine, "several" seems like about the same to me.

ONA Live may have come for free in your mailbox (lucky you), but I pad 100$ for it, including a copy of ONA piano. Oh yeah and I got it 3 months after the stores already had it for sale for much less, while it was supposed to have beene exclusive.

I was a member during the ONA tour but had to pay 100$ to get into the aftershow, which I therefore didn't. So, I don't see what was so incorrect about my post.
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Reply #17 posted 03/03/04 11:30am

SassierBritche
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Abrazo said:

SassyBritches said:

nuts

oohhh boohooh, still pissed off at me.

excuse me, do i even know you? have i even a reason to be pissed off with you? lol if we have had some kind of 'thing' in the past, i have forgotten all about it...my suggestion would be for you to do the same. i guess you just have the personality type of someone who takes things very personally. are you a scorpio by chance? or aquarius?
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Reply #18 posted 03/03/04 1:32pm

MRDREAMFACTORY

On the site it says "No Xpiration"...That to me means it will never run out.You Cant read it as anything else.
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Reply #19 posted 03/04/04 3:00am

Abrazo

MRDREAMFACTORY said:

On the site it says "No Xpiration"...That to me means it will never run out.You Cant read it as anything else.

You are completely right.
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Reply #20 posted 03/04/04 3:02am

Abrazo

SassierBritches said:

Abrazo said:


oohhh boohooh, still pissed off at me.

excuse me, do i even know you? have i even a reason to be pissed off with you? lol if we have had some kind of 'thing' in the past, i have forgotten all about it...my suggestion would be for you to do the same. i guess you just have the personality type of someone who takes things very personally. are you a scorpio by chance? or aquarius?


Ahem.. you are not Sassybritches with that stupid avatar. you are Sassierbritches with a nice avatar. I have no problem with you. lol
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Reply #21 posted 03/04/04 7:21am

SassyBritches

Abrazo said:

SassierBritches said:


excuse me, do i even know you? have i even a reason to be pissed off with you? lol if we have had some kind of 'thing' in the past, i have forgotten all about it...my suggestion would be for you to do the same. i guess you just have the personality type of someone who takes things very personally. are you a scorpio by chance? or aquarius?


Ahem.. you are not Sassybritches with that stupid avatar. you are Sassierbritches with a nice avatar. I have no problem with you. lol

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Reply #22 posted 03/04/04 5:29pm

Anxiety

How dare those heartless bastards offer lifetime memberships? What's their damn problem???
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Reply #23 posted 03/04/04 6:34pm

theblueangel

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Let's call ourselves PeePees and have wet smelly sex.



Please? For her sake, if not for the sake of your eternal soul.

I think that everybody should bring religion into bed with them - it's HOTT with 2 T's (which are shaped like crucifixes which have SO many delightful, odor inducing uses!!).



I know that's not a crucifix, and it certainly doesn't remind ANYone of a sex toy...but it just seemed right, you know?
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Reply #24 posted 03/05/04 12:01am

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eek hmmm lol
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Reply #25 posted 03/05/04 12:55am

Abrazo

Anxiety said:

How dare those heartless bastards offer lifetime memberships? What's their damn problem???

You know they can't keep this promise.
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Reply #26 posted 03/05/04 2:25pm

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Yes, it's true that the sign-up page says "No XPiration Date," but that doesn't mean that all aspects of the club in the future will be totally free.

If you read the mouseover text for Musicology under the "Learn More" heading, it explains that as a member, you'll pay over 20% less per download than nonmembers.

So yes, you'll still be able to schlep through the foyer and all the rooms for the price of your membership, but you may be nickel-and-dimed for any extras along the way. Essentially, anything of real interest that the club has to offer from here on will be pay-as-you-go.
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Reply #27 posted 03/05/04 6:47pm

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PicassoFace said:

Yes, it's true that the sign-up page says "No XPiration Date," but that doesn't mean that all aspects of the club in the future will be totally free.

If you read the mouseover text for Musicology under the "Learn More" heading, it explains that as a member, you'll pay over 20% less per download than nonmembers.

So yes, you'll still be able to schlep through the foyer and all the rooms for the price of your membership, but you may be nickel-and-dimed for any extras along the way. Essentially, anything of real interest that the club has to offer from here on will be pay-as-you-go.

which is the way it should have been from the get go. a minimal access fee and a pay-as-you-go service for everything else. this way, if you've already got something, you're not paying for it twice.
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