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Thread started 03/12/04 10:01am

funkyfine

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NPGMC merchandise... where the hell does it all come from?

The Exodus poster hasnt always been available but it is now... so are they getting more printed???
Or are there massive stockpiles of Prince stuff in secret bunkers all over the US?

If they're bring out the old stuff, how about a packet of Purple Raincoats!
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Reply #1 posted 03/12/04 10:27am

Anxiety

Hopefully they'll come across an abandoned box of hit'n'run singles in the broom closet sometime and throw em in Retail for cheep...that wouldn't suck.
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Reply #2 posted 03/12/04 11:21am

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I'm gonna send Hans Blix to investigate the Weapons of Mass Funk.
Life it ain't real funky unless you got that orgPop.
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Reply #3 posted 03/12/04 11:37am

Haystack

Coming soon to NPGMC retail...


NEWS T-Bags

T-bags themed as Ur favourite CD, NEWS. Ur BREWS will now taste even better as U put a couple of these into Ur T-Pot. Each bag is imprinted with the NEWS CD cover and will turn Ur T bluey grey. Sale price $25 4 100.

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Official prince 1997 calendar

Get them B4 they've gone. Can't remember what day Easter fell on that year? Wanna C dated pix of P? Well, here's Ur chance 2 own something that nobody else in their right mind would want 2 own. Sale price $35.

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Rainbow Children Gerbil Cardigans

Keep Ur gerbil looking cool as well as keeping them warm. 2 cute 4 us to keep here, in the Paisley Park trash can. Sale price $23.50

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Musicology tampons

Make that time o' the month fonkay wit this essential mandatory sanitary protection.

Sale price $5 4 6.

_____

Devour dick-cosy

Keep Ur pecker warm wit this hand-knitted dick-cosy wit a pic of the crappest in-joke ever, imprinted on it.

Sale price $2.50

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PP9 Fibre-Optic lamps

These fonkay lites change more often than suck-ups using the PP9 moniker. Not available in blue, or else we'll censor it.

Sale price $430

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ONA apology substitutes

B like the NPGMC and never apologise for N E misunderstandings or errors on Ur part. These ONA apology substitutes provide an easy alternative for lowering UrSelf 2 an apology.

Available in 'U should B grateful', 'Don't come here if U don't like it' and 'Stepford NPGMC Member'.

Sale price $Priceless.

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Warn a brotha copyright infringement Tees.

Despite sueing other people wit anything that infringes our copyright, we're happy 2 print an image of something that 'hilariously rolleyes' rips off Warner Bros. copyright. Available in Small, Medium and Double Standard.

Sale price $1000
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Reply #4 posted 03/12/04 12:23pm

kendogg

Haystack said:

Rainbow Children Gerbil Cardigans

Keep Ur gerbil looking cool as well as keeping them warm. 2 cute 4 us to keep here, in the Paisley Park trash can. Sale price $23.50

_____

Musicology tampons

Make that time o' the month fonkay wit this essential mandatory sanitary protection.

Sale price $5 4 6.

_____

Devour dick-cosy

Keep Ur pecker warm wit this hand-knitted dick-cosy wit a pic of the crappest in-joke ever, imprinted on it.

Sale price $2.50



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Reply #5 posted 03/12/04 8:31pm

squirrelgrease

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Haystack said:

Coming soon to NPGMC retail...


NEWS T-Bags

T-bags themed as Ur favourite CD, NEWS. Ur BREWS will now taste even better as U put a couple of these into Ur T-Pot. Each bag is imprinted with the NEWS CD cover and will turn Ur T bluey grey. Sale price $25 4 100.

_____


Official prince 1997 calendar

Get them B4 they've gone. Can't remember what day Easter fell on that year? Wanna C dated pix of P? Well, here's Ur chance 2 own something that nobody else in their right mind would want 2 own. Sale price $35.

_____

Rainbow Children Gerbil Cardigans

Keep Ur gerbil looking cool as well as keeping them warm. 2 cute 4 us to keep here, in the Paisley Park trash can. Sale price $23.50

_____

Musicology tampons

Make that time o' the month fonkay wit this essential mandatory sanitary protection.

Sale price $5 4 6.

_____

Devour dick-cosy

Keep Ur pecker warm wit this hand-knitted dick-cosy wit a pic of the crappest in-joke ever, imprinted on it.

Sale price $2.50

_____

PP9 Fibre-Optic lamps

These fonkay lites change more often than suck-ups using the PP9 moniker. Not available in blue, or else we'll censor it.

Sale price $430

_____

ONA apology substitutes

B like the NPGMC and never apologise for N E misunderstandings or errors on Ur part. These ONA apology substitutes provide an easy alternative for lowering UrSelf 2 an apology.

Available in 'U should B grateful', 'Don't come here if U don't like it' and 'Stepford NPGMC Member'.

Sale price $Priceless.

_____

Warn a brotha copyright infringement Tees.

Despite sueing other people wit anything that infringes our copyright, we're happy 2 print an image of something that 'hilariously rolleyes' rips off Warner Bros. copyright. Available in Small, Medium and Double Standard.

Sale price $1000



Fucking classic!
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #6 posted 03/12/04 9:16pm

Handclapsfinga
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Haystack said:


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Musicology tampons

Make that time o' the month fonkay wit this essential mandatory sanitary protection.

Sale price $5 4 6.

_____


oh gawd, imagine if this were a reality: hundreds of gleeful (but slightly crampy and pms-y) female denizens squealing in unison, "we bleed 4 the npgmc!!!!!" dancing jig




























....then a couple of 'em wind up gettin toxic shock syndrome from the tampons or sum shit. eek
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Reply #7 posted 03/14/04 2:17pm

FunkyBrotha

not 2 b nasty , but the warn a brother t shirt pic is not an infringement of copyright!
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Reply #8 posted 03/14/04 4:04pm

Haystack

FunkyBrotha said:

not 2 b nasty , but the warn a brother t shirt pic is not an infringement of copyright!


Have to disagree there. They're clearly showing a poorly drawn, unauthorised copy of the Warner Bros logo. Call it a piss-poor cover version, if you will. However, logos are copyrighted and to reproduce them without permission is just as bad as bootlegging any one of Prince's songs and/or live performances. What makes it more embarrassing is that it's such a crap joke that it's being used for.

I'll say it again - Double standard.
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Reply #9 posted 03/15/04 1:32am

Abrazo

Haystack said:

FunkyBrotha said:

not 2 b nasty , but the warn a brother t shirt pic is not an infringement of copyright!


Have to disagree there. They're clearly showing a poorly drawn, unauthorised copy of the Warner Bros logo. Call it a piss-poor cover version, if you will. However, logos are copyrighted and to reproduce them without permission is just as bad as bootlegging any one of Prince's songs and/or live performances. What makes it more embarrassing is that it's such a crap joke that it's being used for.

I'll say it again - Double standard.

That T-shirt could be seen as a parody and therefore "fair use". Would be interesting to see what a court would have to say about that, especially considering the obvious motivations behind this 'parody' to discredit Warner Bros. ...
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Reply #10 posted 03/15/04 5:11am

Haystack

Abrazo said:

Haystack said:



Have to disagree there. They're clearly showing a poorly drawn, unauthorised copy of the Warner Bros logo. Call it a piss-poor cover version, if you will. However, logos are copyrighted and to reproduce them without permission is just as bad as bootlegging any one of Prince's songs and/or live performances. What makes it more embarrassing is that it's such a crap joke that it's being used for.

I'll say it again - Double standard.

That T-shirt could be seen as a parody and therefore "fair use". Would be interesting to see what a court would have to say about that, especially considering the obvious motivations behind this 'parody' to discredit Warner Bros. ...


And let's not forget that it was P himself who tried to sue people for using the prince symbol, a few years back.
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Reply #11 posted 03/15/04 7:14am

FunkyBrotha

The courts would find that this is not an infringement of copyright! It is indeed a parody, but furthermore, this design is not being used for commercial exploitation and so no damages have occured, also it could be argued that this design is totally distinct from the warner bros logo and therefore the general public would not be confused as to its purpose!
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Reply #12 posted 03/15/04 8:07am

Abrazo

Haystack said:

Abrazo said:


That T-shirt could be seen as a parody and therefore "fair use". Would be interesting to see what a court would have to say about that, especially considering the obvious motivations behind this 'parody' to discredit Warner Bros. ...


And let's not forget that it was P himself who tried to sue people for using the prince symbol, a few years back.

Yes... absolutely frigging ridiculous.
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Reply #13 posted 03/15/04 8:50am

Abrazo

FunkyBrotha said:

The courts would find that this is not an infringement of copyright! It is indeed a parody, but furthermore, this design is not being used for commercial exploitation and so no damages have occured, also it could be argued that this design is totally distinct from the warner bros logo and therefore the general public would not be confused as to its purpose!

You are PROBABLY right about the parody argument relating to copyright (can't say for sure like you do, since courts often tend to disagree on parody issues). But the parody defense is only useful as a defense against copyright infringement.

Since we are also dealing with a trademarked name and logo here the case isn't just about copyrights, but also about trademark rights. A parody defense isn't valid against a claim of trademark infringement. Legal matters relating to logos make this therefore a complicated matter.

The criteria whether the use of a trademarked name and logo, is "distinct", commercial or non-commercial, and whether the general public is likely to confuse the look-a-like logo with the trademarked logo, are the criteria belonging to trademark law.

In any case, the logo as used by NPGMC is certainly not "totally distinct", as you claim. Even someone with bad eye sight can see that logo as used by NPGMC is a blatant copy of the original WB logo with only the name changed to "Warna Brotha". The design, the colors, everything else is the same.

Therefore the general public would likely become confused. But that ONLY matters if the look-a-like logo would actually be used as a trademark by Prince and/or NPGMC for its own commercial business purposes.

The fact of the matter is that the NPGMC, nor Prince (arguably) uses the look-a-like logo as a trademark for its own commercial business purposes. Therefore WB wouldn't stand a big chance of winning a case based on trademark infringement either.

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Reply #14 posted 03/16/04 5:15pm

Haystack

Abrazo said:

FunkyBrotha said:

The courts would find that this is not an infringement of copyright! It is indeed a parody, but furthermore, this design is not being used for commercial exploitation and so no damages have occured, also it could be argued that this design is totally distinct from the warner bros logo and therefore the general public would not be confused as to its purpose!

You are PROBABLY right about the parody argument relating to copyright (can't say for sure like you do, since courts often tend to disagree on parody issues). But the parody defense is only useful as a defense against copyright infringement.

Since we are also dealing with a trademarked name and logo here the case isn't just about copyrights, but also about trademark rights. A parody defense isn't valid against a claim of trademark infringement. Legal matters relating to logos make this therefore a complicated matter.

The criteria whether the use of a trademarked name and logo, is "distinct", commercial or non-commercial, and whether the general public is likely to confuse the look-a-like logo with the trademarked logo, are the criteria belonging to trademark law.

In any case, the logo as used by NPGMC is certainly not "totally distinct", as you claim. Even someone with bad eye sight can see that logo as used by NPGMC is a blatant copy of the original WB logo with only the name changed to "Warna Brotha". The design, the colors, everything else is the same.

Therefore the general public would likely become confused. But that ONLY matters if the look-a-like logo would actually be used as a trademark by Prince and/or NPGMC for its own commercial business purposes.

The fact of the matter is that the NPGMC, nor Prince (arguably) uses the look-a-like logo as a trademark for its own commercial business purposes. Therefore WB wouldn't stand a big chance of winning a case based on trademark infringement either.


Ah, but from what you've both said, would either of you have the confidence to create a 'parody' of the McDonalds logo on a website, along with your own self-drawn version of Mickey Mouse underneath it and then alert both MaccyD's and Disney to your webpage?
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Reply #15 posted 03/16/04 5:46pm

SunnyFunnyFace

Its more than likely mass produced by underpaid children in a developing country somewhere , Prince doe$ have his moral$ you know

Puts tongue in bottom lip and makes a spazzy sound
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Reply #16 posted 03/16/04 5:50pm

Haystack

And I've been doing some research on the internet and I still stand by what I originally posted.

Although a court may not be overly bothered about pursuing a copyright infringement that doesn't create a commercial gain, the 'Warn A Brotha' T-Shirt faux-advert most definitely falls under the category of copyright infringement!

And it's most definitely a double-standard when it comes to Prince and the NPGMC!

Thanks Abrazo for your responses, and thanks FunkyBrotha - I know you weren't being nasty.
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Reply #17 posted 03/17/04 3:21am

Abrazo

Haystack said:

Ah, but from what you've both said, would either of you have the confidence to create a 'parody' of the McDonalds logo on a website, along with your own self-drawn version of Mickey Mouse underneath it and then alert both MaccyD's and Disney to your webpage?

If the logo is clearly a parody of the MacD logo and I am not using it for any commercial purposes I would have enough confidence. The self drawn Mickey Mouse underneath it makes it tricky however. Question then is, is it necessary for the purpose of parody to involve Mickey Mouse? Disney is very agressive when it comes to Mickey Mouse you know ...
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Reply #18 posted 03/17/04 3:26am

Abrazo

Haystack said:

And I've been doing some research on the internet and I still stand by what I originally posted.

Although a court may not be overly bothered about pursuing a copyright infringement that doesn't create a commercial gain, the 'Warn A Brotha' T-Shirt faux-advert most definitely falls under the category of copyright infringement!

If there wouldn't be an exception for parodies (falling under the general fair use limitation of copyright) it would most definitly be an infringement of WB's copyright. However, the parody purpose of the "Warna Brotha" T-shirt seems pretty clear to me. WB could try to make a defamation case, but that's not easy. In the end it is not worth it to pursue a lawsuit over this.

I am curious tho' on what information you base your conclusion that "the 'Warn A Brotha' T-Shirt faux-advert most definitely falls under the category of copyright infringement!"...
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Reply #19 posted 03/17/04 6:53am

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How much for the purple watchtower with the gold prince on the cover?
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Reply #20 posted 03/17/04 7:00pm

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Haystack said:

Coming soon to NPGMC retail...


NEWS T-Bags

T-bags themed as Ur favourite CD, NEWS. Ur BREWS will now taste even better as U put a couple of these into Ur T-Pot. Each bag is imprinted with the NEWS CD cover and will turn Ur T bluey grey. Sale price $25 4 100.

_____


Official prince 1997 calendar

Get them B4 they've gone. Can't remember what day Easter fell on that year? Wanna C dated pix of P? Well, here's Ur chance 2 own something that nobody else in their right mind would want 2 own. Sale price $35.

_____

Rainbow Children Gerbil Cardigans

Keep Ur gerbil looking cool as well as keeping them warm. 2 cute 4 us to keep here, in the Paisley Park trash can. Sale price $23.50

_____

Musicology tampons

Make that time o' the month fonkay wit this essential mandatory sanitary protection.

Sale price $5 4 6.

_____

Devour dick-cosy

Keep Ur pecker warm wit this hand-knitted dick-cosy wit a pic of the crappest in-joke ever, imprinted on it.

Sale price $2.50

_____

PP9 Fibre-Optic lamps

These fonkay lites change more often than suck-ups using the PP9 moniker. Not available in blue, or else we'll censor it.

Sale price $430

_____

ONA apology substitutes

B like the NPGMC and never apologise for N E misunderstandings or errors on Ur part. These ONA apology substitutes provide an easy alternative for lowering UrSelf 2 an apology.

Available in 'U should B grateful', 'Don't come here if U don't like it' and 'Stepford NPGMC Member'.

Sale price $Priceless.

_____

Warn a brotha copyright infringement Tees.

Despite sueing other people wit anything that infringes our copyright, we're happy 2 print an image of something that 'hilariously rolleyes' rips off Warner Bros. copyright. Available in Small, Medium and Double Standard.

Sale price $1000



...Priceless touched
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Reply #21 posted 03/18/04 3:12am

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SunnyFunnyFace said:

Its more than likely mass produced by underpaid children in a developing country somewhere , Prince doe$ have his moral$ you know

Puts tongue in bottom lip and makes a spazzy sound


actually, they seem to get most of their clothes from http://www.americanapparelstore.com who are a 'sweatshop free' store. They even use the same model pictures, jist digitally altered to include the NPGMC logo/prints!

I think it's pretty cool to use an ethical clothes source actually.
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