With all things being considered equal, why do you remain a Prince fan? Without judgement, I've noticed that the people here fall into 3 distinct categories.

First, the people who are not happy with anything Prince do or don't do. (No judgement, you have a right to feel the way you do)

Second, the group who likes everything he does. (Again no judgement)

Third group, those who really don't care either way. If he does it fine, if he doesn't, fine also.

I'm in the third category.

So I ask again, why do you remain a Prince fan? Please, only rational explanations. No attacks please. I really want to understand everyone here.

Take the question to the millions that were, Then you'll find out why?

Why put people into Catagories.

That is my serious serious question ?

Life is full of little mysteries..

Again, I am in nooo catagory.

REDFEATHERS said:

i dont like placing ppl into boxes, hey were around cause we like the music when we dont like no more we wont be around.

Hi red

wyld1 said:

i'd say yes there r 3 types o p fan

1. the hate everything brigade !

2. the the adore everything brigade !

3. the peeps who just try 2 b honest !

i'd like 2 think i am in category 3. !!!


but... i bet every1 thinks they fall in2 category 3. !!!

Prince is a genius. If he comes even close to replicating his past glories, I know I'll be a happy man.

Dammit, he's still releasing good music, and when he plays live - WOW.

if you're going to create catagories, you missed some. I'm in the "I love his music, think he is terrible at running his business and think he has been spiritually led astray" category.

The only categories I fall into are the ones printed on my birth certificate.

katt said:

Wow. I didn't expect people to be so upset about categories. The point is to start a discussion. There's so much venom spewed here, I often wonder how some of you stay a fan of Prince.

Can some of you address that?

alandail said:

Why is his current religious leaning any worse than his previous one? 'Cos he doesn't say fuck anymore? Is that it?

wyld1 said:

Yes there is so much venom spewed around the prince community it isn’t just this site.

Sometimes there is just not explanation and sometimes it won’t be the one we want to hear. It is just the way it is no point wondering why, i think ive been around to long where i am at the point i just don’t care no more, were all have different views we just got to except this.

Hi wyld1

wyld1 said:

The man and the artist are two different entities to me. He may say differently and you may think differently, but fortunately for me, I am not Prince and I am not you.

I don't have a lot of patience for a lot of the things Prince does.

I have all the patience in the world, however, for what he does when there's a guitar in his hands. All the rest of the foolishness goes out the window as long as the music's flowing.

Let me ask you some questions, wyld1 - would you prefer Prince.org followd NPGMC's policy of deleting contrarian or critical comments regarding Prince? Do you think the fan community would be ideal if people kept their questioning and complaints to themselves? If so, where do you draw the line between "unity" and suppression?

1p1p1i3 said:

It has nothing to do with the religious path he has chosen to take, and more to do with the disparate treatment he gives those who subscribe to his worldview without question, and the substandard treatment by NPGMC of those who have the "audacity" to question Prince and the club, however innocent their comments may (or, at times, may NOT) be.

1p1p1i3 said:

no - that's not it - I actually thought he had gone a bit overboard with the profanity prior to the JW thing.

I'm talking about the complete reversal in many beliefs and attitudes. Attitudes about women, race, tolerance, etc. I guess the line "ain't no room to disagree", that is demonstrated by the censoring of NPGMC, the banning of people for their beliefs, and even the censoring of his own prior music. The old prince would be embarrassed by what he has become.

alandail said:

Yeah, but the new Prince is embarassed by the old Prince. Who's right? He seems happy now at least.

I think the NPGMC is too hard-line sometimes, but I don't know how much of that is the PeePees and how much is P.

To me, he's just a human being and as flawed as the rest of us. I don't idolise him but I do respect him and his 'issues'. As for the music, I grew up with it and I still enjoy it. I am one of those people who genuinely enjoy every genre of music, so Prince is perfect for me. When I get a new Prince album, I never know what to expect, but he has very rarely let me down (only on Karma Sutra). So for me, Prince is unpredictable but great. I know liking TRC or NEWS is viewed in some quarters as the next best thing to stalkerdom but I love jazz and soul, so both albums went down a treat with me.

hey - I agree - like I said, I love the music. He needs someone who knows what they are doing to run his business, though. And I just find some of the changes in his attitude on various topics disappointing. For instance, I loved the message of the song "Race", but can't listen to "Avalanche". It's also so contradictory to the idea of Love4OneAnother.

I am a fan because he is a sexy MF and his music will stand all time!!

Anxiety said:

Well, Anxiety,you make some good points. Actually, a lot of the fans who complain have good points and I agree with them on a lot of these things. It just seems to upset them so much. I can understand not liking what Prince does, but to call the man names and attack him at everything he does just seems to be a bit much.

I agree, it seems like he could make plenty of money if he released a lot of the music that has been bootlegged over the years. It would seem to be more productive than attacking sites like g2p, but for some reason this is the way he does things.

I do the same thing you do. I separate the artist from the man. I'm really not interesed in his personal life.

i was complaining to a friend about this bootlegging thing and ha sai d to me a writer does not always want all his writings published a poet does not want all their poetry released for very personal reasons isn't it sometimes the same for artists and their songs?

cammille said:

Good point, but these things will be released anyway. P's estate will release everything he hasn't destroyed after his death, unless he takes legal action now to prevent it.

Look at Douglas Adams, Tupac, Elvis, Miles Davis, The Beatles - it all comes out in the end, when there's money to be made.

1p1p1i3 said:

Prince has been saying he would release the bootleg stuff when he would be free. One shouldn't expect him to release all of it, but he bragged for years about having these 1000 songs ready to be released. I totally undertsand fans' wishes to have im put his money where his mouth is.

As for the live stuff, other than being a total creative control freak, there is no reason to say he doesn't want his liveshows to be heard on record, especially by his own fans. He already made the music public by playing and people already paid for it. There really isn't much of an issue in releasing it to the ones who enjoy it on record as well.

Or perhabs that is exactly the issue: he just doesn't want his fans to enjoy it...

gotta say I am in the third

although sometimes I will voice an opinion on something he has done or has NOT done -

I couldn't care less really

wyld1 said:

I'm in the third category. I love the music (a lot of it, at any rate), I love the shows, and I really don't care about too much of what the dwarf does, but when he goes too far (i.e: attacking his fans) then I sound off about it.

wyld1 said:

Good Thread & i'm along 4 the Ride... i consider myself a Member of The New Power Generation or The NPG & rather the trip is Good or Winding i'm there.

it's all been an Xperience...


NPG Member since 1996 & countin'!!!


((i fit NO Category))

1p1p1i3 said:

I find it VERY hard to believe that Londell hasn't drafted something up to the effect that all of his unreleased songs would be destroyed upon his death. If they haven't been destroyed already, that is.

theblueangel said:

That would be heartbreaking.

I pretty much like everything he does - music wise anyway (not counting Purple Medley - that was horrible). I don't care AT ALL - about his religion, politics, personal life. Just think he is in the genium realm of music - - - and his worst is usually much better than the best of other artists . . .