Dont the video clips and mp3s add up to $25 worth?

I have:
the Chaka Khan Dont talk to Strangers
Reflection - Prince
What do u want me 2 do? - Prince
I like it there video
The video for NEWS
the live video for Jam of the Year
The long video for Thieves in the Temple

if I liked India Aire, there was a clip from her.
I am not counting the clips from the Aladdin DVD which were oferred as well.

I would have paid $25 for that much in any store so I consider it to be worth the money.

You're allowed to look at these things, but you aren't allowed to download them. (You still CAN, but you aren't supposed to.)

If I put down $25 and told NPGMC they could look at my money but they couldn't take it, do you think it would still be on the table once I turned my back for a moment?

Anxiety said:

Good point.

Wait...you'd pay $25 in a store for a two new (mono) mp3s, a mono mp3 of an already released Chaka song (you can buy the whole album for like $7...and should, if you like Chaka and have money to burn), a flash advert for NEWS, and 3 videos? Damn...that's fucking ridiculous...isn't it? $25 bus 2 or 3 full length albums, or a DVD or two of a full concert with bonuses...the club this year has been scraps...maybe as a secret web link on a $15 CD, it would be a good deal. If the CD was any good, that is.

undulatingacrobat said:

Personally, I think the fact that you even feel the need to ask the question speaks volumes. If you really and truly considered NPGMC worth the money, would you really feel the need to pose the question in the first place? If you're satisfied, then you're satisfied... what is there to discuss? It's almost like you're seeking validation and support which makes me feel like deep down inside, you yourself have doubts. Just my opinion.

Let's see what goodies I got from my other rave faves this year:

Autographed copy of the long out-of-print Swans album "The Burning World", autographed by the lead singer of Swans: approximately $20 (I got first dibs as a member of the FREE Swans official fan site)

An entire LP worth of demo dowloads from the High Llamas' official fan site (admission free - any ol' schnook surfing the web can download 'em).

An enormous PDF interview and new desktop wallpapers from Diamanda Galas' fan site (free).

A kick-ass animated screensaver of a Sonic Youth concert, free from the official SY fan site.

Aladdin Sane desktop wallpaper and screensavers and Ziggy Stardust desktop wallpapers, video files and screensavers, free from the promo sites for this year's Bowie deluxe reissue CD sets.

All of these are things I enjoy and use and share with friends and family.

I have nothing like that from my NPGMC experience this year. All the Prince stuff I dug on this year was far from exclusive - NEWS and the Live DVD are both available in wrecka stows - and the other stuff was threadbare, poor quality, and not meant for our "permanent" music collections. I'm glad I joined for the sake of owning Rave In2 and for the opportunity to hang out with some cool Chicago folks at the DVD screening, but paying $25 for the privilege of buying Prince product and attending a promotional screening seems a bit silly, don't you think?

theblueangel said:

Actually, they did release the Reflection MP3 as a 256 kbps stereo mp3 -- "What do you want..." was only available as a listen-only 96 kbps mono mp3, which you could in fact save if you new where to look.

Avatar squatter!

*proud supporter of "Arms of Orion" since...um..since i putup the avatar *

theblueangel said:

undulatingacrobat said:

mmmh, no...

FutureShock said:

and mine.

What I dont get is why Prince would want his OFFICIAL music club and his one true link with his fans to be so crappy.

Would you want it to be a bare bones club if this was your way of saying "you mean alot to me...this is what Im all about - this is from me to you"

Whichever way you look at it there could have been so much more...and that isnt just me saying "I wnat more,more,more"

This years club has really been nothing more than comparable to a poor tribute site.

purpledoveuk said:

So sad but so true

Dauphin said:

Sorry, Dauphin...yer the ORIGINAL ORION, no doubt...I didn't notice I cooped yer avvie until after I put this one up...I'll change it soon, I SWEAR...it's such a purty one!

To the contrary! I think we need more supporters of the "Arms of Orion" Single!

Please keep it and I hope others follow suit!

Actually...I've been toying with the idea of changing my avatar anyway.

Either way, it's all swell.

theblueangel said:

somebody's losin hope/faith in their beloved prince, methinx...

Dauphin said:

Suh-WELL!!! I agree...I think Arms of Orion is one of his most maligned songs, and I simply ADORE it. Cuz, y'know, since you've been gone I've been looking for a lover in the Sea of Tranquility...

The NPGMC is nothing more than an annual fundraiser for Prince.

The club becomes an afterthought and the lowest of his priorities once he's collected everyones money.

Anxiety said:

Outside of David Bowie, are any of the people/groups you mentioned musical legends in the same category as Prince? If not, I think that makes a difference in what is free, available for download, etc.

beautifulone7 said:

Plenty of them are far more respected amongst musicians than Prince.

beautifulone7 said:

Why? It's all about CUSTOMER RELATIONS. REM know this. Pearl Jam know this. They LIKE their fans, they know that those are the people that allow them to be a musician 24/7 and thus they occasionally return the favor.

PJ didn't like the actions of bootleggers and what did they do: moan and whine about it? Hell no, they simply outdid the bootlegger at their own game: allowed fans to tape & trade, and later on simply released every concert themselves in excellent quality without any edits or touch-ups. That is how you do it.

BartVanHemelen said:

Thank you. I didn't know that. I'm not a musician and also didn't know the groups Anxiety was talking about.

beautifulone7 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

PJ didn't like the actions of bootleggers and what did they do: moan and whine about it? Hell no, they simply outdid the bootlegger at their own game: allowed fans to tape & trade, and later on simply released every concert themselves in excellent quality without any edits or touch-ups. That is how you do it.[/quote]

Points well taken. Thanks. I wasn't justifying Prince's behavior, just further trying to comprehend it. Both good and bad.
[This message was edited Wed Dec 24 16:47:34 PST 2003 by beautifulone7]
[This message was edited Wed Dec 24 16:49:03 PST 2003 by beautifulone7]

undulatingacrobat said:

Not me because I wouldn't have chosen half ofthat crap offered.

Exactly...who would walk into a store and pay $25 for a couple mp3s and a Flash advertisement and a few (I mean a FEW) other videos that you can watch on your computer?

Plus, keep in mind...everyone who has downloaded for their personal use ANYTHING except for "Reflection" has broken the club's explicit rules banning the downloading of these materials.

At least if I bought the shit in the store, they wouldn't call me a crook when I wanted to keep it.

Tom said:

I fear you are right.

Hey, I sure do not like the NPGMC but how about that other web site from france with all the Prince music!!

beautifulone7 said:

One would think that would be all the more reason for a "musical legend" to have a fan site with greater resources and a deeper well of material to share with fans, not to mention the means with which to offer them. Most of the folks I listed may have a fraction of Prince's mainstream praise, yet they manage to find cool stuff to share with their fans.

Oh, and Tina Weymouth helps to moderate the official Talking Heads site bulletin board - she answers questions and chats with members regularly. And she's a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee.

FutureShock said:

Well thats just stupid. The question is posed in this forum all the time. I presented it with my opinion - simple as that.

Anxiety said:

RRight, and when was the last time Tina released anything that anyone wanted to hear?