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The truth about the price of being in the NPGMC Amidst the rampant speculation about the price of the forthcoming Chocolate Invasion set, I have noticed the inherent increase in the inaccurate value assessments of the NPGMC membership.
There is that faction of Prince fans (or not) that speculate that the price of the Chocolate Invasion should be judged against the cost of joining the club in years 1 and 2. The essential flaw in such a comparsion is that those early memebership dues were for MORE tha just CDs. The aftershows and special concert tickets were part of it. I know that I spent $100 to join last year and I saw 2 FREE aftershows and saw 6 concerts from the front row in the NPGMC section. That ALONE is worth the $100. I got the CDs and the downloads as well - icing on the cake after you have seen Prince do 2 consecutive afterhows in Hollywood. This is what was offered to get people to join. There were skeptics that skipped and got left behind. There were true fans, like me, that jumped in right away and got MORE than they money's worth. If you get the year 1 and 2 cuts on a CD, they HAVE to cost more than they would have when originally offered as they were only mp3 files - not actual CDs. Actual CDs costs money to make and ship. This means they have to cost more than free downloads. Let's wait and see what the new set goes for. I will buy it regardless because I am like that for Prince - always have been. [This message was edited Mon Nov 3 18:29:32 PST 2003 by undulatingacrobat] | |
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Just call me Bennett, cuz I ain't in it. | |
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Well maybe, maybe not. The prices at the club have been pretty reasonable this year. Except for that SWEET Prince/NEWS long sleeve fitted shirt that I want 
Anyhow let's wait and see, the least you can say is that The Club surprises us consistently. Blue  Blue  | |
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undulatingacrobat said: This means they have to cost more than free downloads.
If Prince didn't come to your town then the downloads weren't free - they cost $100. Working on a cost like that, if the CDs were going to be more then they'd have to be over $200. I doubt they'll be anything like that much, and if they cost a lot less I won't be complaining about all the money I've already spent on the music! Life it ain't real funky unless you got that orgPop. | |
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sabaisabai said: undulatingacrobat said: This means they have to cost more than free downloads.
If Prince didn't come to your town then the downloads weren't free - they cost $100. | |
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I guess I could have been one of those people comparing the price gainst year 1 and 2...but that was purely because it was the only oiece of solid evidence on which to speculate.
I agree totally that the $100 for both years was more than just a cd but im sure,like me, there ar emany members who didnt get teh full benefits for one reason or another - maybe the gigs didnt come to a town close enough,maybe there were problems with tickets etc - whatever, thats all in the past now. But i guarantee that somebody will turn around (as tehy have already started to) and say "its not fair..i paid $300 for these trax originaly. Really i couldnt care - I dont have the downloads anymore because my pc crashed an,suprisingly for me, im happy to have paid the $300 and got to hear the downloads 3 years ago/3 years before non-members (in theory) | |
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Traveling to the next town to catch a Prince show is well worth it. Prince didnt come to my town is a semi lame excuse for real fans. | |
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stymie said: sabaisabai said: undulatingacrobat said: This means they have to cost more than free downloads.
If Prince didn't come to your town then the downloads weren't free - they cost $100. If you live a capitalistic society, the market determines the price. Today, $100 is not alot of money in general. If you are poor enough that it is, then joining a music club and going to concerts should be further down on your list of financial priorities or obligations. Every business has to charge money to remain a business - even NPGMC. | |
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undulatingacrobat said: Amidst the rampant speculation about the price of the forthcoming Chocolate Invasion set, I have noticed the inherent increase in the inaccurate value assessments of the NPGMC membership.
There is that faction of Prince fans (or not) that speculate that the price of the Chocolate Invasion should be judged against the cost of joining the club in years 1 and 2. The essential flaw in such a comparsion is that those early memebership dues were for MORE tha just CDs. The aftershows and special concert tickets were part of it. I know that I spent $100 to join last year and I saw 2 FREE aftershows and saw 6 concerts from the front row in the NPGMC section. That ALONE is worth the $100. I got the CDs and the downloads as well - icing on the cake after you have seen Prince do 2 consecutive afterhows in Hollywood. This is what was offered to get people to join. There were skeptics that skipped and got left behind. There were true fans, like me, that jumped in right away and got MORE than they money's worth. If you get the year 1 and 2 cuts on a CD, they HAVE to cost more than they would have when originally offered as they were only mp3 files - not actual CDs. Actual CDs costs money to make and ship. This means they have to cost more than free downloads. Let's wait and see what the new set goes for. I will buy it regardless because I am like that for Prince - always have been. [This message was edited Mon Nov 3 18:29:32 PST 2003 by undulatingacrobat] You did not go to 6 prince concerts for $100. $125 x 6 + another $100 to join the club was $850 | |
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undulatingacrobat said: ...There were true fans, like me, that jumped in right away and got MORE than they money's worth.
If being a 'true' fan makes u come across that arrogant, then ur welcome 2 the title quite happily. [This message was edited Tue Nov 4 12:29:39 PST 2003 by bananacologne] | |
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7 CD set price should be $79.99 for non members
$74.99 for current members $59.99 for 2 time members $49.99 for members all 3 years Actually, this is probably a bad idea, but as a member of all 3 years, it seems like Prince could care less about customer loyalty. Also, his website needs to have a section for NON members. It just brings up that "The World Is Flat" "Black People Like Chicken." garbage. The point of having a club is to get members. That intro, and horrible navagation, make the site cumbersome. I love Prince, but he really could have a nice free site, with some teasers to get members...like members-only pricing,members only downloads, members only CD purchases of full concerts on CD, customer loyalty pricing, and even the ability to purchase cheap seats at concerts! That horrible band Blink 182, and no you can't convince me they are even at the level of Third Eye Blind...they're pretty bad, but they have been touring clubs for $1. Prince could afford the good publicity to have some cheap shows.$150 ticket prices won't get any new fans...oh well, that's my 2 cents... | |
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undulatingacrobat, I'm glad to know you are making a decision based on your personal convictions. Kudos to you sir/ma'am. However, there are many here who don't have the common sense to not buy what they ___ (fill in the blank i.e. don't want, can't afford, etc.) But for some reason their little hearts won't quite pump that much needed oxygen to their tiny little brains if they don't find some reason to bitch about it.
Personally, I can't empathize with those who feel they are getting ripped off because they already have the material being presented in this package, nor can I wholeheartedly empathize with those who just want new material because Prince could provide it: because it's as simple as 'You don't likey, you don't buy'. It just can't be any more clear cut than that and there's no need to take any of it personal. Despite your good intentions, I don't see trying to rationalize the issue here. | |
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undulatingacrobat said: Traveling to the next town to catch a Prince show is well worth it. Prince didnt come to my town is a semi lame excuse for real fans.
What an arrogant statement. Did you write the dictionary on what a real fan is? Do you monitor "real fan" bank accounts? If so,you must've missed mine.  | |
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undulatingacrobat said: If you live a capitalistic society, the market determines the price. Today, $100 is not alot of money in general. If you are poor enough that it is, then joining a music club and going to concerts should be further down on your list of financial priorities or obligations. Every business has to charge money to remain a business - even NPGMC. So poor people shouldn't join music clubs or go to concerts? I didn't know enjoying music was the exclusive right of the rich or for those who $100 wasn't a problem to drop down at a moment's notice. $100 IS a lot of money to many people, don't sleep on that. And no I'm not poor, but I don't just spend money like it's water. I prioritize where my money goes and when I first finshed grad school and began my career as a teacher, I lived at home with my mom. $100 was still a lot to give to Prince so I didn't join the club. Does that make me "not a real fan". I don't think so. A penny pincher, maybe. [This message was edited Tue Nov 4 23:19:29 PST 2003 by beautifulone7] | |
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undulatingacrobat said: Traveling to the next town to catch a Prince show is well worth it. Prince didnt come to my town is a semi lame excuse for real fans.
What a load of crap. For many people 'the next town' is in a different country, or even on a different continent. I am a real fan. Next time Prince plays LA will you 'donate' the $1200 it will cost me to get there and stay overnight? Lemmy, Bowie, Prince, Leonard. RIP. |
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undulatingacrobat said: Amidst the rampant speculation about the price of the forthcoming Chocolate Invasion set, I have noticed the inherent increase in the inaccurate value assessments of the NPGMC membership.
There is that faction of Prince fans (or not) that speculate that the price of the Chocolate Invasion should be judged against the cost of joining the club in years 1 and 2. The essential flaw in such a comparsion is that those early memebership dues were for MORE tha just CDs. The aftershows and special concert tickets were part of it. I know that I spent $100 to join last year and I saw 2 FREE aftershows and saw 6 concerts from the front row in the NPGMC section. That ALONE is worth the $100. I got the CDs and the downloads as well - icing on the cake after you have seen Prince do 2 consecutive afterhows in Hollywood. This is what was offered to get people to join. There were skeptics that skipped and got left behind. There were true fans, like me, that jumped in right away and got MORE than they money's worth. If you get the year 1 and 2 cuts on a CD, they HAVE to cost more than they would have when originally offered as they were only mp3 files - not actual CDs. Actual CDs costs money to make and ship. This means they have to cost more than free downloads. Let's wait and see what the new set goes for. I will buy it regardless because I am like that for Prince - always have been. [This message was edited Mon Nov 3 18:29:32 PST 2003 by undulatingacrobat] Brainless Arse! . |
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undulatingacrobat said: Traveling to the next town to catch a Prince show is well worth it. Prince didnt come to my town is a semi lame excuse for real fans.
Sorry all but this person is a complete tosser. "real fans" grrr it makes me mad | |
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In fact it is worse than that - had a look at your posts and you consistently have managed to do "smug" in all I looked at - your opinion is fine but the problem appears to be that you think that it is the only VALID one
i rarely post - i am a 'lurker' but I wish that people wouldnt play the 'big authority' Rant over | |
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This totally reminds me of WHY I didn't renew my membership after the 2nd year.
I paid $100 per year. I got front row seats ONE TIME, but had to pay something like $75 per ticket(I got two). I'm sorry, but here's the problem: I get notice that Prince will be in Concord CA in two days. I live an hour and a half away, up north. I got on the site for the presale, and found that tickets were $125 apiece!!!??? Give me a break. It's not that I can't afford it, but what the hell is the membership for? Holy Shit!!! Some of us have this little thing called WOOORRRKKK, where we can't just traipse off any day we want to. As a longtime fan, I feel I deserve the courtesy of a little more FING notice!!! Now I'm pissed all over again. | |
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gemini13 said: This totally reminds me of WHY I didn't renew my membership after the 2nd year.
I paid $100 per year. I got front row seats ONE TIME, but had to pay something like $75 per ticket(I got two). I'm sorry, but here's the problem: I get notice that Prince will be in Concord CA in two days. I live an hour and a half away, up north. I got on the site for the presale, and found that tickets were $125 apiece!!!??? Give me a break. It's not that I can't afford it, but what the hell is the membership for? Holy Shit!!! Some of us have this little thing called WOOORRRKKK, where we can't just traipse off any day we want to. As a longtime fan, I feel I deserve the courtesy of a little more FING notice!!! Now I'm pissed all over again. The club obviously was not for someone with your life parameters. The short notice was done to benefit true fans that didnt have $300 to pay ticket brokers that buy up all the good seats before most of the ordinary ticket buying fans can get to them. This was done before the club was even started. The club did not promise us discounts on ticket prices. It did offer us better seats than those that paid the same amount to sit behind us at all the regular shows and those that paid $100 to get into aftershows that we got in for free. | |
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What sort of "life parameters" do "true" fans have? | |
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A stencil of the word "penis" on their foreheads apparently - oh - and an undulating acrobat's ability to wedge his/her head up his/her own arse [This message was edited Thu Nov 13 1:12:06 PST 2003 by LoveRobot] | |
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stillwaiting said: Prince could afford the good publicity to have some cheap shows.$150 ticket prices won't get any new fans...oh well, that's my 2 cents...
Disagree 100%. His ticket prices for his Australian Tour ranged from $92 - $392 and he's got HEAPS of new fans in Australia. People who went just because he was a huge artist and he blew everyone away. I've even converted a few people because there was such a buzz after the tour that they wanted to know what made Prince so good. And I showed them. | |
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