in my time in the NPGMC i come to notice that the npgmc has a history of taking shots against these groups of peopel, using the "bible" as there reference of hate against these people. Is the man who once sang about "letting his body be free" in sexuality,the same man who dressed in clothing design in womens fashion, the same man who wears make-up almost to the limits of being "dragg", the same man who once sang about "sleeping in between the two of us" is he now sponsoring anti-gay topics in the chat. Is the man who once used a name "camille" inspired by a transvestite now condeming anything outside of "conventional" relationships.

the first topic being "what does the bible say about homosexuality" this was posted for discussion on Gay Pride day

the second being "what are ur thought on a Gay Bishop" posted the day after a clergy man was appointed Bishop while being openingly gay. and while in discussion they never mention the cleryman by name only referred to him as a gay bishop who would have to omitt referrences to homosexuality from his sermons.. and when asked about the other clergymen who delete other refferences from the bible, i was told by the Paisleyparker that that subject was off hand.

and now "Gay Marriages what are ur thoughts"

i have personal chatted with several of the paisleyparker and they were totally against "these groups" of people. And used the bibles "abonmination" of these people when asked what did they feel about these people. one even stated that they had no knowledge of members of these groups of people in there membership.

I wonder is THE NPGMC taking the stand against gay rights.If so what should they do with all the money that they generated from "these groups" of people through out the years? should they return it or remain hyprocrites?

has love4oneanother turned to love4all those who are not gay lebisan or bisexual transgenders and so forth, for the its fire and brimstone.

if this is true about the NPGMC is the revolution now against those who onced help librated ones sexuality.
[This message was edited Mon Sep 8 13:23:56 PDT 2003 by PaperCrayons]
[This message was edited Mon Sep 8 13:40:02 PDT 2003 by PaperCrayons]

I've never been in the chat so I had no idea that these issues were floating around over there. It's really fuckin sad to say the least that Prince would have any issue with homosexuality or anything unconventional. This is a man who thrived on being everything but conventional. It is what drew most of us to him.

I understand people get older, they mature, they become different people than they were when they were young but this is the thing that makes me the saddest about him turning to religion. It hasn't enlightened him, rather it's putting fucked up ideas in his head about right and wrong and he's turning into something he once would have despised... A follower not a leader.

I really don't want to touch any of these subjects with a ten foot pole. I have expressed my views on two of those three subjects over there but, I will say this: If Prince ever comes out against homosexuals, I am outta here.

Well Alex Hahn went as far to quote Prince as saying he'll never reform Revolution until Wendy & Lisa repent and condemn their current lifestyle so who knows?

While he was revolutionary in many ways (Image, groundbreaking crossover etc) he was also very conservative and uptight at the same time (His christian upbringing no doubt) so it wouldn't surprise me especially as there is no religion that is fundamentally accepting of sexuality preferences.

Essence said:

actually there are... MCC churches.

PaperCrayons said:

It's funny that these "topics" only offend you AFTER being 86'd from the club!!!

Sounds like sour grapes to me...

But what's more important to him, standing by his beliefs or collecting our money???

I've never encountered anything of the kind over there. I don't think it's as "gay-friendly" an environment over there as it is here, mainly because of the heavy moderation and censorship, but I think that's more cause-and-effect than anything else.

I've never felt alienated or on guard because of my sexuality over at the club, and while I have encountered some naivete on the topic over there, it's always been respectfully articulated.

if this is something new for "prince" then would it be better not to show such a blantant form of discrimination towards a group of people and just leave that part of peoples lives to there private quarters... and if its not new for "prince" then has he not lied and cheated people out of feeling some sort of comfort in knowning that there was someone on there side not to mention the false representation of himself just for the mighty dollar. And for those of u who don't know The gay community has a very strong power in spending expecially if it towards something they feel shows them any love or understanding.
rember back in the day noone was as understanding as prince.

what do u think would happen if in the gay community they found out that Prince via THE NPGMC was preaching that gays were to be abomished in hell.
[This message was edited Mon Sep 8 16:45:58 PDT 2003 by PaperCrayons]

Well, damn! There go my plans for the NPGMusicClub Mardi Gras next week

Anxiety said:

its cos you never go into the chat... it's when the PPs have no time to think before they type that they say the most interesting things

PaperCrayons said:

i would imagine it would be a disaster for him. it'd be one thing if he had always preached that. but to embrace it and then turn on it would be disasterous to him. especially since he has many ga fans and really can't afford to lose any more fans than he already has.