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Thread started 05/05/03 11:36am

theblueangel

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more NPGMC censoring shenanigans

jeesh...

someone had posted something along the lines of "Brother Larry Graham, please join us in the Chat Room soon!!"

and i bravely swallowed down the bloody bile that my system had violently regurgitated...

and then responded, saying that while larry is no doubt a legendary bass player, i prefer sonny t's style, and anyway, there's really no need for him to preach to anyone in the chat room, since he preaches enough through Prince already.

oh, and i remember saying something about the fact that he should never be allowed near a microphone again, cuz his voice is creepy.

oh yeah...actually, come to think of it, this is most likely what was deemed "abusive" by the moderators: i said that tina graham scares me, and anyone who isn't scared by tina graham scares me.

- Posts deleted -
Please keep in mind this is a place of respect and love4oneanother. There is no room 4 insults and disrespect.

and hell, even though i repeat myself a few times, i'll just paste my response on the npgmc board here, since it'll probably be deleted too:

"i guess i shouldn't exactly be surprised that my post was deleted, since i made some sarcastic comments regarding the fact that while larry IS a funk bass legend and can tear it up, i prefer sonny t's style.

and i think i said something about the fact that larry should never be allowed near a microphone again. sorry, but i think his voice is creepy.

i think i also expressed the opinion that i and many others share that "Brother Larry Graham" seems to be responsible for Prince's recent jehovah's witness conversion and therefore much of the recent lyrical and moral hypocrisy in prince's music and actions.

of course, now that the post has been deleted, i guess there's really no way for me to know exactly which part of the message was deemed abusive.

how is it that prince can sing "abraham lincoln was a racist" yet on this message board we're not allowed to be "purposefully spiteful and biting" - i mean, i AGREE with his sentiment regarding lincoln, but certainly that line is degrading to lincoln, right?

i guess it all depends upon the VIEWPOINT.

but religious zealots generally aren't able to see beyond Black and White."

so...just as an fyi, they edit more than cuss words over there. that place creeps me out.
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Reply #1 posted 05/05/03 11:43am

NuPwrSoul

theblueangel said:

i think i also expressed the opinion that i and many others share that "Brother Larry Graham" seems to be responsible for Prince's recent jehovah's witness conversion and therefore much of the recent lyrical and moral hypocrisy in prince's music and actions.

What hypocrisy would that be? That someone has embraced a worldview that negates or revises their past views on things does not make them a hypocrite. If someone has renounced some of their past ways (I am assuming you are referring to Prince's use of profanity in the past) you cannot bring that up to condemn what he is doing in the present.
how is it that prince can sing "abraham lincoln was a racist" yet on this message board we're not allowed to be "purposefully spiteful and biting" - i mean, i AGREE with his sentiment regarding lincoln, but certainly that line is degrading to lincoln, right?

Calling someone a "racist" is not being spiteful or biting. Saying someone was unjust on matters of race is not about being angry, bitter, or upset... it is just a statement.
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #2 posted 05/05/03 12:28pm

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NuPwrSoul said:

theblueangel said:

i think i also expressed the opinion that i and many others share that "Brother Larry Graham" seems to be responsible for Prince's recent jehovah's witness conversion and therefore much of the recent lyrical and moral hypocrisy in prince's music and actions.

What hypocrisy would that be? That someone has embraced a worldview that negates or revises their past views on things does not make them a hypocrite. If someone has renounced some of their past ways (I am assuming you are referring to Prince's use of profanity in the past) you cannot bring that up to condemn what he is doing in the present.
how is it that prince can sing "abraham lincoln was a racist" yet on this message board we're not allowed to be "purposefully spiteful and biting" - i mean, i AGREE with his sentiment regarding lincoln, but certainly that line is degrading to lincoln, right?

Calling someone a "racist" is not being spiteful or biting. Saying someone was unjust on matters of race is not about being angry, bitter, or upset... it is just a statement.


AND that was in a song!!! No tin a chat room which is quite different to me...

How's it going NPs?
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Reply #3 posted 05/05/03 12:33pm

theblueangel

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oh my LORD can we have a NuPwrSoul.org so you don't have to hijack every one of my threads on both sites with your fourth-grade logic? you could just sit there all day with your little girlies and pretend you're prince.

and the rest of us could attempt to have a DISCUSSION.
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Reply #4 posted 05/05/03 12:51pm

NuPwrSoul

theblueangel said:

oh my LORD can we have a NuPwrSoul.org so you don't have to hijack every one of my threads on both sites with your fourth-grade logic? you could just sit there all day with your little girlies and pretend you're prince.

and the rest of us could attempt to have a DISCUSSION.


Maybe we can have a site theblueangel.com where you can post your daily bitch and moan?

I post at both sites and if I see something I want to address I will address it. If you dont want duplicate responses maybe you should avoid duplicate posting?

Fourth grade logic? LOL. Hilarious. But I would expect that coming from somone who can only hurl playground insults instead of having an adult conversation free of personal attacks.
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Reply #5 posted 05/05/03 1:26pm

nunatak

My Father is pregnant
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Reply #6 posted 05/05/03 1:32pm

rld

uknowwhat, theblueangel? U RIGHT, RIGHT AND RIGHT!!!

they don't have to delete u: because of the "respect each other and love 4 one another" thing, they can do now whatever they want and delete what they want too!

peace brotha.

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Reply #7 posted 05/05/03 1:41pm

wyld1

theblueangel said:

jeesh...

someone had posted something along the lines of "Brother Larry Graham, please join us in the Chat Room soon!!"

and i bravely swallowed down the bloody bile that my system had violently regurgitated...

and then responded, saying that while larry is no doubt a legendary bass player, i prefer sonny t's style, and anyway, there's really no need for him to preach to anyone in the chat room, since he preaches enough through Prince already.

oh, and i remember saying something about the fact that he should never be allowed near a microphone again, cuz his voice is creepy.

oh yeah...actually, come to think of it, this is most likely what was deemed "abusive" by the moderators: i said that tina graham scares me, and anyone who isn't scared by tina graham scares me.

- Posts deleted -
Please keep in mind this is a place of respect and love4oneanother. There is no room 4 insults and disrespect.

and hell, even though i repeat myself a few times, i'll just paste my response on the npgmc board here, since it'll probably be deleted too:

"i guess i shouldn't exactly be surprised that my post was deleted, since i made some sarcastic comments regarding the fact that while larry IS a funk bass legend and can tear it up, i prefer sonny t's style.

and i think i said something about the fact that larry should never be allowed near a microphone again. sorry, but i think his voice is creepy.

i think i also expressed the opinion that i and many others share that "Brother Larry Graham" seems to be responsible for Prince's recent jehovah's witness conversion and therefore much of the recent lyrical and moral hypocrisy in prince's music and actions.

of course, now that the post has been deleted, i guess there's really no way for me to know exactly which part of the message was deemed abusive.

how is it that prince can sing "abraham lincoln was a racist" yet on this message board we're not allowed to be "purposefully spiteful and biting" - i mean, i AGREE with his sentiment regarding lincoln, but certainly that line is degrading to lincoln, right?

i guess it all depends upon the VIEWPOINT.

but religious zealots generally aren't able to see beyond Black and White."

so...just as an fyi, they edit more than cuss words over there. that place creeps me out.


I think you insulted the man and his wife. I'm not sure why you can't tell why you got banned. Plus, if a place is for showing love and respect, do you really think calling a man's wife "creepy" was in that vane?
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Reply #8 posted 05/05/03 2:49pm

Anxiety

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My Father is pregnant



YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW.
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Reply #9 posted 05/05/03 2:51pm

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IS'NT BEING FREE, BEING ALOUD 2 XPRESS AN OPINION ?
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Reply #10 posted 05/05/03 2:52pm

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IS'NT BEING FREE, BEING ALOUD 2 XPRESS AN OPINION ?
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Reply #11 posted 05/05/03 3:24pm

NuPwrSoul

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IS'NT BEING FREE, BEING ALOUD 2 XPRESS AN OPINION ?


And what is being CIVIL? Should people be able to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater when there is no fire? Sure they are FREE to do so, but should they have LICENSE to do so?
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Reply #12 posted 05/05/03 3:46pm

Bambi319

Oh freekin' hell. I have to say people r slowly becoming brainwashed by the NPGMC. I have noticed how people are sounding like they do in the NPGMC chat rooms - questioning everything, going through every though process and trying to appear intellectual in case the big man (or not so big) is watching. .

I don't give a flying fuck about being nice. . I just want some new f'ing music.

God I'm so pre menstrual.
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Reply #13 posted 05/05/03 4:03pm

rio

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i don't really understand why you seem to go out of your way to be censored?...it seems you knew the post would be deleted..just as it seems you knew you'd be kicked out of the chat room for using profanity...

it's starting to seem like a crusade of some sort...

they seem to let a lot of stuff stay..a lot of stuff that i wouldn't have even thought would stay stays...

there are certainly a lot of people trying to live up to their perception of what prince would want..and i agree it's silly to do that..but there are other people that are just hanging out, posting, whatever...certainly not everything posted in the forums agrees with whatever you believe prince believes in right now...

i mean, say what you want...to friends..over here...start your own anti-npgmc site if you want...but it's pretty clear that some things will never be okay over there...they also deleted an insulting comment concerning michael jackson...so it's not just because this was larry & tina...

read some of anxiety's posts over there...he raises a lot of questions..openly disagrees..and does it all with a lot of thought behind it...and he's never just vicious...
it can be done..

i'm just not sure that calling larry graham 'creepy...' or saying 'anyone that isn't scared of tina graham scares me...' is really something you could have expected the moderators to leave up...

let me also say that if nupwrsoul uses '4th grade logic' 4th graders must be extremely advanced these days...

as i recall, 4th graders were prone to throw fits when things were not done to their liking...and whine about it constantly...and call people names...
seems there could be some 4th grade logic at work around here..but not from nupwrsoul...


(censoring myself edit...)
[This message was edited Mon May 5 16:25:04 PDT 2003 by rio]
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Reply #14 posted 05/05/03 4:22pm

Igo2DaMax

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worship rio worship
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Reply #15 posted 05/05/03 4:45pm

XxAxX

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theblueangel said:

jeesh...

someone had posted something along the lines of "Brother Larry Graham, please join us in the Chat Room soon!!"

and i bravely swallowed down the bloody bile that my system had violently regurgitated...

and then responded, saying that while larry is no doubt a legendary bass player, i prefer sonny t's style, and anyway, there's really no need for him to preach to anyone in the chat room, since he preaches enough through Prince already.

oh, and i remember saying something about the fact that he should never be allowed near a microphone again, cuz his voice is creepy.

oh yeah...actually, come to think of it, this is most likely what was deemed "abusive" by the moderators: i said that tina graham scares me, and anyone who isn't scared by tina graham scares me.

- Posts deleted -
Please keep in mind this is a place of respect and love4oneanother. There is no room 4 insults and disrespect.

and hell, even though i repeat myself a few times, i'll just paste my response on the npgmc board here, since it'll probably be deleted too:

"i guess i shouldn't exactly be surprised that my post was deleted, since i made some sarcastic comments regarding the fact that while larry IS a funk bass legend and can tear it up, i prefer sonny t's style.

and i think i said something about the fact that larry should never be allowed near a microphone again. sorry, but i think his voice is creepy.

i think i also expressed the opinion that i and many others share that "Brother Larry Graham" seems to be responsible for Prince's recent jehovah's witness conversion and therefore much of the recent lyrical and moral hypocrisy in prince's music and actions.

of course, now that the post has been deleted, i guess there's really no way for me to know exactly which part of the message was deemed abusive.

how is it that prince can sing "abraham lincoln was a racist" yet on this message board we're not allowed to be "purposefully spiteful and biting" - i mean, i AGREE with his sentiment regarding lincoln, but certainly that line is degrading to lincoln, right?

i guess it all depends upon the VIEWPOINT.

but religious zealots generally aren't able to see beyond Black and White."

so...just as an fyi, they edit more than cuss words over there. that place creeps me out.




well, it's kind of predictable ain't it? he is a man of contradiction, our hero. he advocates freedom, yet imprisons his employees in binding confidentiality agreements. he sings of truth, yet never sees the facts which contradict his own 'vision'.
gotta love the tunes but he's kinda freaky dontchathink?
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Reply #16 posted 05/05/03 4:54pm

theblueangel

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bambi319 - you GO, gurrl. such a cute avatar you've got.

and rio - i'm also a big fan of anxiety's posts both here and at the club...and yeah, he's classier than me, no doubt. but people are not always classy...and i don't think that fact should come as any surprise to any prince fan.

nupwr - i know you think you're this wise sage, dispensing your wisdom among the needy, but you ain't fooling everyone.



Bambi319 said:

Oh freekin' hell. I have to say people r slowly becoming brainwashed by the NPGMC. I have noticed how people are sounding like they do in the NPGMC chat rooms - questioning everything, going through every though process and trying to appear intellectual in case the big man (or not so big) is watching. .

I don't give a flying fuck about being nice. . I just want some new f'ing music.

God I'm so pre menstrual.
No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

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Reply #17 posted 05/05/03 5:05pm

NuPwrSoul

theblueangel said:

but people are not always classy...and i don't think that fact should come as any surprise to any prince fan.


Maybe we can expect to have folks with no class, but do we have to endure classless and immaturity too?

nupwr - i know you think you're this wise sage, dispensing your wisdom among the needy, but you ain't fooling everyone.


redface Ooooh I'm so embarrassed I feel like I've been unmasked as a great fraud... yeah whatever rolleyes
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Reply #18 posted 05/05/03 5:17pm

NuPwrSoul

rio said:

let me also say that if nupwrsoul uses '4th grade logic' 4th graders must be extremely advanced these days...

as i recall, 4th graders were prone to throw fits when things were not done to their liking...and whine about it constantly...and call people names...
seems there could be some 4th grade logic at work around here..but not from nupwrsoul...


much love and props to you RIO. I'm humbled worship
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Reply #19 posted 05/05/03 5:21pm

stymie

NPS, TBA, I dig you both, if that is even possible. I got a question: The performance of Prince where he did the impersonation of Ozzy Osborn, is that not disrespectful? When I see Ozzy now, I don't find him funny, but feel great sadness for him. Now, according to P's own house rules, isn't this degrading and just mean?
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Reply #20 posted 05/05/03 5:24pm

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nupwrsoul, as i sit here staring at yer avatar, i find myself drawn to those fierce, meticulously groomed eyebrows...i want to fall into the facially follicular field of frivolity, and frolic 'til the funk reigns.

youaremygod,iamyerchild,fornowonferyouishallbewild!



NuPwrSoul said:

theblueangel said:

but people are not always classy...and i don't think that fact should come as any surprise to any prince fan.


Maybe we can expect to have folks with no class, but do we have to endure classless and immaturity too?

nupwr - i know you think you're this wise sage, dispensing your wisdom among the needy, but you ain't fooling everyone.


redface Ooooh I'm so embarrassed I feel like I've been unmasked as a great fraud... yeah whatever rolleyes
No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

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Reply #21 posted 05/05/03 5:28pm

xt1000

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NuPwrSoul said:

xt1000 said:

IS'NT BEING FREE, BEING ALOUD 2 XPRESS AN OPINION ?


And what is being CIVIL? Should people be able to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater when there is no fire? Sure they are FREE to do so, but should they have LICENSE to do so?



Wow what i said and ment is ppl r aloud a bloody opinion aint they ??? FFS
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Reply #22 posted 05/05/03 5:28pm

NuPwrSoul

theblueangel said:

nupwrsoul, as i sit here staring at yer avatar, i find myself drawn to those fierce, meticulously groomed eyebrows...i want to fall into the facially follicular field of frivolity, and frolic 'til the funk reigns.

youaremygod,iamyerchild,fornowonferyouishallbewild!


Whaaat? lol you's a foo' lol
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Reply #23 posted 05/05/03 5:32pm

NuPwrSoul

stymie said:

NPS, TBA, I dig you both, if that is even possible. I got a question: The performance of Prince where he did the impersonation of Ozzy Osborn, is that not disrespectful? When I see Ozzy now, I don't find him funny, but feel great sadness for him. Now, according to P's own house rules, isn't this degrading and just mean?


I don't think it's cool to make fun of anyone's ailment, regardless of how they got to that point. I guess it becomes a question of where do you draw the line in comedy, when the person being made fun of has done self-deprecating comedy as well...

Still I think it's not funny. That would be a great question to pose at the NPGMC forums tho wink
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Reply #24 posted 05/05/03 5:36pm

stymie

NuPwrSoul said:

stymie said:

NPS, TBA, I dig you both, if that is even possible. I got a question: The performance of Prince where he did the impersonation of Ozzy Osborn, is that not disrespectful? When I see Ozzy now, I don't find him funny, but feel great sadness for him. Now, according to P's own house rules, isn't this degrading and just mean?


I don't think it's cool to make fun of anyone's ailment, regardless of how they got to that point. I guess it becomes a question of where do you draw the line in comedy, when the person being made fun of has done self-deprecating comedy as well...

Still I think it's not funny. That would be a great question to pose at the NPGMC forums tho wink
When I read the back and forth between you and TBA, I wanted to post it there, maybe I will.
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Reply #25 posted 05/05/03 8:08pm

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me like saltines, saltines good methinks, mmm..
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Reply #26 posted 05/05/03 8:30pm

theblueangel

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stymie, i think you posted something to this effect a few weeks ago on the U Tell Us section, in the first few days of the club. was that you?

i agree that it's mean-spirited, and i'm sorry that a lot of people will read this and roll their eyes and what-not, but as the son of an alcoholic, i also feel sadness when i see ozzy (i mean, it's not ALL i see, but it's there)...and i do feel that this goes against the very "respect for one another" vibe they're claiming to represent.

[on a totally unrelated topic, DAMN these mc flash tracks are KICKIN'!! i've had testament for over a month now and i'm JUST NOW getting to these fun little slices of joy..this set is MASSIVE]


stymie said:

NPS, TBA, I dig you both, if that is even possible. I got a question: The performance of Prince where he did the impersonation of Ozzy Osborn, is that not disrespectful? When I see Ozzy now, I don't find him funny, but feel great sadness for him. Now, according to P's own house rules, isn't this degrading and just mean?
No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

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Reply #27 posted 05/05/03 9:17pm

stymie

Nah, that wasn't me. I didn't know it had been posted before, but it is posted there now. There has been one response to the thread and it has been pretty much what thought it was going to be. Whoever Prince says is off limits, everyone else is fair game. By the way, I feel your pain about your dad. My mom drunk herself to death.
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Reply #28 posted 05/06/03 2:00am

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woot! NPS & Rio woot!

fart theblueangel fart

And the Ozzy shit was FUNNY wink
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Reply #29 posted 05/06/03 5:13pm

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oh, that's supposed to be a FART?! (according to the description)...i thought it was me smoking weed, and i was all DUUUDE...

no surprise that calhoun square is gonna jump in line with NuPwrSoul...it's all about the Theocratic Order.

CalhounSq said:

woot! NPS & Rio woot!

fart theblueangel fart

And the Ozzy shit was FUNNY wink
No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

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