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Thread started 03/23/03 2:18pm

Essence

Some Qs regarding NPGMC downloads...

How and where was Cybersingle released online?

Were there officially released video files for Ballad Of Dorothy Parker and The Work Part 1 in addition to the sound files?

Ditto Face Down and Anotherloverholenyohead?

Were there two Return Of The Bump Squad live versions within the digests?

Was a documentary "Profile Of Prince" part of the official downloads?

Were there two Copenhagen rehearsal MP3s as part of the C-NOTE thing? If so all the others were single?

Any link to comprehsive listing of all tracks available through the NPGMC website?

Thanks.
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Reply #1 posted 03/23/03 2:43pm

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Essence said:

How and where was Cybersingle released online?
Download from the

official site

Were there officially released video files for Ballad Of Dorothy Parker and The Work Part 1 in addition to the sound files?

Yes

Ditto Face Down and Anotherloverholenyohead?

Yes

Were there two Return Of The Bump Squad live versions within the digests?
No - although some files that were originally posted had minor sound faults which when reported were sometimes addressed resulting in

a reposting

Was a documentary "Profile Of Prince" part of the official downloads?
The documentary available was called 'Prince: a portrait'
Were there two Copenhagen rehearsal MP3s as part of the C-NOTE thing? If so all the others were single?
Yes there were two. NPGMC experimented with Copenhagen by sending very few email links out in November and the download was only up for a matter of hours. The CNOTE version was an edited download of the original version.
Any link to comprehsive listing of all tracks available through the NPGMC website?
I'll try to find the copy I have and post it.
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Reply #2 posted 03/23/03 2:58pm

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This list has previously been posted on both prince.org and alt.music.prince (by someone else) - I've deleted a couple of hoaxes that were mischievously included.

Please note that many of these tracks could be downloaded in two different (HI ans LO) bitrate versions

Music Information (Download Editions & CD Releases / Feb.2001-Jan.2003)
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Npgmc Edition (2001) (01) - 01 Npgmc Commercial.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (01) - 02 WNPG AudioShow.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (01) - 03 Funky design.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (01) - 04 When I Lay My Hands On U.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (01) - 05 Mad.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (01) - 06 Splash.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (01) - 07 Peace.mp3
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Npgmc Edition (2001) (02) - 01 WNPG AudioShow.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (02) - 02 We March (live 1995).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (02) - 03 Vicki Waiting (live 1995).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (02) - 04 Letitgo (live 1995).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (02) - 05 Return Of The Bumpsquad (live 1995).mp3
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Npgmc Edition (2001) (03) - 01 WNPG AudioShow.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (03) - 02 Habibi.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (03) - 03 The Daisy Chain.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (03) - 04 The Work (part one).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (03) - 05 Northside.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (03) - 06 Habibi (edit version).mp3
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Npgmc Edition (2001) (04) - 01 WNPG AudioShow.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (04) - 02 Sex In My Bones (Fonky Bald Heads).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (04) - 03 Hit U In The Socket (Rosie Gaines).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (04) - 04 Props 'N' Pounds.mp3
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Npgmc Edition (2001) (05) - 01 WNPG AudioShow.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (05) - 02 Y Should Eye Do That.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (05) - 03 Sex Me (Sex Me Not).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (05) - 04 Supercute.mp3
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Npgmc Edition (2001) (06) - 01 WNPG AudioShow.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (06) - 02 SMGroove.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (06) - 03 VanGough.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (06) - 04 Instrumental.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (06) - 05 Hypno Paradise.mp3
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Npgmc Edition (2001) (07) - 01 WNPG AudioShow.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (07) - 02 Judas Smile.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (07) - 03 Horny Pony.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (07) - 04 Golden Parachute.mp3
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Npgmc Edition (2001) 08 - 01 WNPG AudioShow.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) 08 - 02 ContestSong.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) 08 - 03 Thieves In The Temple (Remix).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) 08 - 04 Rebirth Of The Flesh (Rehearsal).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) 08 - 05 My Medallion.mp3
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Npgmc Edition (2001) (09) - 01 The Rainbow Children (pre-
rel.version).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (09) - 02 BasicWillGetTrcOn (11-01) Spot.mp3
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Npgmc Edition (2001) (10) - 01 WNPG AudioShow.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (10) - 02 Live 4 Love (Live).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (10) - 03 Underneath The Cream.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (10) - 04 The Undertaker (Live).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (10) - 05 Vavoom.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (10) - 06 We Gon Make It Funky (Live w-Maceo).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (10) - 07 CS Winner -Dandelions (Dana D).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (10) - 08 CS Winner -Love You More (Miles
Rivers).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (10) - 09 CS Winner -No War (The Muse).mp3
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Npgmc Edition (2001) (11) - 01 WNPG AudioShow.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (11) - 02 Gett Off (Live).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (11) - 03 High.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (11) - 04 Gamillah.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (11) - 05 Silicon.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2001) (11) - 06 Poor Goo (Live).mp3
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Npgmc Edition (2002) (12) - 01 WNPG AudioShow.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2002) (12) - 02 A Case Of U.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2002) (12) - 03 Breathe.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2002) (12) - 04 Madrid 2 Chicago.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2002) (12) - 05 Here On Earth.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2002) (12) - 06 One Nite Alone.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2002) (12) - 07 Ure Gonna C Me.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2002) (12) - 08 Anotherloverholenyohead (Live).mp3
Npgmc Edition (2002) (12) - 09 Face Down (Live).mp3
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(CD) Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic (remix album - club release)
(CD) The Rainbow Children (retail)
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Video Information (Feb.2001-Jan.2002)
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(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 01 Anotherloverholenyohead (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 02 BabyKnows (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 03 Bambi (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 04 Controversy/Mutiny (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 05 Dolphin.mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 06 Dorothy Parker/Four (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 07 Endorphinmachine (B/W)(live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 08 Face Down (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 09 Get Wild (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 10 Gett Off (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 11 ICNTTPOYM (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 12 If Eye Was Ur Girlfriend (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 13 Live 4 Love (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 14 LoveSign.mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 15 Npgmc Intro Video.mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 16 One Song (FLASH).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 17 Poor Goo (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 18 Prince: A Portrait Video.mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 19 Prettyman (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 20 The Daisy Chain.mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 21 The Ride (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 22 The Undertaker (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 23 The Work (part one) (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 24 U Make My SunShine.mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 25 We Gon Make It Funky (live).mov
(2001) Npgmc Edition (00) - 26 When Eye Lay My Hands.mov
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Npgmc Edition (2002) 01 Silicon.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2002) 02 1+1+1 is 3 (ONA Live..Spot).mp3
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Npgmc Edition (2003) Xpectation - 01 - Xhalation.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2003) Xpectation - 02 - Xcogitate.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2003) Xpectation - 03 - Xemplify.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2003) Xpectation - 04 - Xpectation.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2003) Xpectation - 05 - Xotica.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2003) Xpectation - 06 - Xogenous.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2003) Xpectation - 07 - Xpand.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2003) Xpectation - 08 - Xosphere.mp3
Npgmc Edition (2003) Xpectation - 09 - Xpedition.mp3
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Npgmc Edition (misc) 01 - Osaka.mp3
Npgmc Edition (misc) 02 - Nagoya.mp3
Npgmc Edition (misc) 03 - Tokyo.mp3
Npgmc Edition (misc) 04 - Copenhagen (Full - Live 2002).mp3
Npgmc Edition (misc) 05 - Copenhagen (Edit - Live 2002).mp3
Npgmc Edition (misc) 06 - Empty Room (Live 2002).mp3
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(CD) One Nite Alone (studio) (club release)
(CD) One Nite Alone...Live (club release / 3 discs +Xtra ONA +Poster)
(CD) One Nite Alone...Live (retail / 3 discs)
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Release Notes
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WNPG AudioShows are 46 to 60min shows and contain released and unreleased material..
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Reply #3 posted 03/23/03 3:06pm

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Cybersingle was available as an mp3 download from the official site from 14 July 2000 (pre NPGMC) and sunsequently became available as an mp3 download from Real.com on 29 October 2000 (Information provided in Uptown)
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Reply #4 posted 03/23/03 9:50pm

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Thanks for all the info thus far, I'm fully paid up member of both years so it's not in the name of bootlegging by the way. smile

I have two differing versions of Return Of The Bump Squad and was just wondering which is the official single MP3? One namechecks Miami.

You don't list Ballad Of Dorthy Parker and The Work Part 1 Live under audio I notice. Were they just videos?

Was When Eye Lay My Hands On U's video only available as a sample and never in full?

What is the meaning behind the title "BasicWillGetTrcOn" and what is the purpose of this sample of TRC's title track?

Why was Silicon made available in year 1 digest and year 2 general? Same version?

Isn't the 1+1+1 live a different version to that on ONA Live?
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Reply #5 posted 03/24/03 7:24am

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Why was Silicon made available in year 1 digest and year 2 general? Same version?

Isn't the 1+1+1 live a different version to that on ONA Live?



Only 1 version of Silicon- was part of Ahdio #2 and later as a seperate MP3.Then for just about all of year 2.


1+1+1=3 MP3 was the one recorded at the Celebration 2002 and not the same as the one that appears on ONALive.
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Reply #6 posted 03/24/03 9:24am

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Essence said:


Why was Silicon made available in year 1 digest and year 2 general? Same version?

Isn't the 1+1+1 live a different version to that on ONA Live?



Only 1 version of Silicon- was part of Ahdio #2 and later as a seperate MP3.Then for just about all of year 2.


1+1+1=3 MP3 was the one recorded at the Celebration 2002 and not the same as the one that appears on ONALive.


As I thought, thanks.
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Reply #7 posted 03/24/03 9:39am

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I just found Uptown's "NPGMC comprehensive Discography" and they don't list Gett Off (Live) or Poor Goo (Live) as audio for edition #11 and no Face Down (Live) or Anotherlover (Live) as audio in #12.

Both these are wrong? I wonder if Langebleu's list is the first truly comprehensive NPGMC Discog available, keep a copy of it for future use. smile
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First of all, Essence, I've got a bit on but I'll get back to you later tonight - I've not forgotten you.

Secondly - it's not my list - I simply snagged it from alt.music.prince when it was first posted, and deleted the fakes.

Thirdly, my guess is you are looking at Uptown #53 - page 51 indicates they don't list all the songs - they are only really focussing on prevuiouslu unreleased songs.

Whilst I'm on - I seem to recall that Bumpsquad was from Paisley - but I'll do more research. he performed the song in Miami in 1995 and I'llcompare recordings - but I can't hear a Miami namecheck on the NPGMC track after first listen.



I'll be back (as Arnold said) unless MrTation covers all bases before I get another free moment.

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Miami gets name checked with a cry of 'Miami' after the accapella tape beginning. And later, 'Miami, let me see your hands up, clap 'em': Glam Slam East, Miami, 8 June (AM), 1995) - not released.

Miami gets name checked with the cry 'Miami, is the party in here, is the party in here?' followed by prince asking how many peole are old enough to know how to do the bump: Glam Slam East, Miami, 9 June (AM), 1995 - not released.

Miami unsurprisingly doesn't get name checked in 'Return of the Bump Squad', 21 October, 1995 - officially released as an mp3 download in edition #2 of the NPGMC, 22 March, 2001.
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Essence said:

I just found Uptown's "NPGMC comprehensive Discography" and they don't list Gett Off (Live) or Poor Goo (Live) as audio for edition #11 and no Face Down (Live) or Anotherlover (Live) as audio in #12.

Both these are wrong? I wonder if Langebleu's list is the first truly comprehensive NPGMC Discog available, keep a copy of it for future use. smile
Actually, I now think you are looking in the wrong part of that edition of Uptown.

For a complete discography you need:

Uptown #50 Article, 'The Work Pt 1', starting page 5
Uptown #53 Article, 'The Work Pt 2', starting page 67

The latter does list 'Gett Off' (Live), 'PoorGoo' (from The Undertaker video, as well as 'Face Down' and 'Anotherloverholenyohead. Not to be confused with the article on starting page 49 of issue # 53 'Got Joints 4 Days' reviewing unreleased songs from NPGMC / Internet.

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Reply #11 posted 03/24/03 2:42pm

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Essence said:

I just found Uptown's "NPGMC comprehensive Discography" and they don't list Gett Off (Live) or Poor Goo (Live) as audio for edition #11 and no Face Down (Live) or Anotherlover (Live) as audio in #12.

Both these are wrong? I wonder if Langebleu's list is the first truly comprehensive NPGMC Discog available, keep a copy of it for future use. smile
Actually, I now think you are looking in the wrong part of that edition of Uptown.

For a complete discography you need:

Uptown #50 Article, 'The Work Pt 1', starting page 5
Uptown #53 Article, 'The Work Pt 2', starting page 67

The latter does list 'Gett Off' (Live), 'PoorGoo' (from The Undertaker video, as well as 'Face Down' and 'Anotherloverholenyohead. Not to be confused with the article on starting page 49 of issue # 53 'Got Joints 4 Days' reviewing unreleased songs from NPGMC / Internet.

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I'm talking page 67 yeah, it doesn't list the above videos (gett off, Poor Goo, anotherlover or face down) as also released in audio while your list does.

I know you didn't write the list but if it irons out all the errors then it can finally call itself "comprehensive".

http://pages.prodigy.net/.../npgmc.htm

This link for example doesn't list Face Down or Anotherlover video files.
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You don't list Ballad Of Dorthy Parker and The Work Part 1 Live under audio I notice. Were they just videos?
The Work Part 1 (studio version) was first released on Napster (April 6, 2001. It then featured on Ahdio show 3 and as adownload in the same edition, The original version of The Ballad of Dorothy Parker preceded it on the Ahdio Show. Of course, it was also later featured on The Rainbow Children download and (again!) in the Ahdio show #11.

The two tracks to which you refer specifically are the live performances from successive nightly appearances on the Today Show. As far as I can see, the two live performances were not released as audio files (my apologies for the very fast response which was obviously inaccurate).
Was When Eye Lay My Hands On U's video only available as a sample and never in full?
The NPGMC video only covered part of the song. I believe it was designed so that if played in a loop mode you can't tell the end. Never read whether there was a full length video of the song made (but my guess would be that the whole song was shot). You might also remember that there was an attempt to deliver an 'interactive' version of this video early on in the club's infancy. You could download the capability to 'mix' different elements of this and play them through the original 'player'. Your mix accompanied low bitrate (alomost animated) version of 'WILMHOU'. However, there were many reported glitches with this, and shortly thereafter NPGMC version 2.0 was born which removed the need to download into the 'player'. It all seems so long ago now!
What is the meaning behind the title "BasicWillGetTrcOn" and what is the purpose of this sample of TRC's title track?
I've never gone back to amend that on the list, but I'm sure I know where it comes from. You'll recall first of all that edition #9 of NPGMC was a download of 'The Rainbow Children' album only. Moreover, you will probably remember that NPGMC during the first year had Basic (monthly) and Premium (Annual) members. Usually, Premium received more trax than basic members. I can't recall whether Premium also got access to trax at both HI and LO bitrates as opposed to Lo bitrate on some songs for Basic membership. However, for month #9, Premium received access to the website first to download the entire album. Basic members were given access sometime later in the month (it being a monster untracked download of the album, this gave Premium a chance to dowwnload first and inevitably eased server pressure by staggering).

I think the person who made this list most probably copy and pasted the text from the download pages and the reference to TRC here is text on the site advising that Basic members will be able to download shortly - the date is missing.
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Essence said:

I'm talking page 67 yeah, it doesn't list the above videos (gett off, Poor Goo, anotherlover or face down) as also released in audio while your list does.

I know you didn't write the list but if it irons out all the errors then it can finally call itself "comprehensive".

http://pages.prodigy.net/.../npgmc.htm

This link for example doesn't list Face Down or Anotherlover video files.
Thanks. I've checked the list back to the files I downloaded as a member and I have all four of those in mp3 audio as well as video format. I kept all of my NPG download fiiles in one place so I'm sure all of these were officially released.
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The Uptown list is more accurate than the list when it comes to the beginning of the club - as they make clear which were free tracks before Edition #1 was launched.

I think we're getting close enough to the real thing here!
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Reply #15 posted 03/24/03 4:14pm

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The Uptown list is more accurate than the list when it comes to the beginning of the club - as they make clear which were free tracks before Edition #1 was launched.

I think we're getting close enough to the real thing here!


Hehehe yeah, I think we're there near enough. Like I say save it when done though so it's there next time someone else asks, like I said before there doesn't seem to be a correct listing available anywhere. It's understandable I guess due to the nature of the club's complicated unorganised nature but you'd expect Uptown to get it right at least, I guess they didn't slip up til volumes #11 and #12 in part two though. biggrin

I remember that Techplayer (something like that), it was a nightmare on my old system, corrupted all sound files. The reason I'm compiling it all together now is I have a new computer that can cope with it all... but the player just seemed poor anyway yeah.

By the way the "BasicWillGetTrcOn" is a geunine MP3, it's a 45 second sample of TRC's title track. The filename makes sense now, should just say November 1st at the end for the basic members information.
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Essence said:

By the way the "BasicWillGetTrcOn" is a geunine MP3, it's a 45 second sample of TRC's title track. The filename makes sense now, should just say November 1st at the end for the basic members information.
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