TheEnglishGent said:

KeithyT said:

Another part of me (hee-hee! MJ) thinks that the ONENPG site WAS using the official Prince symbol (copyright/reg trademark etc) in its graphics and that's tantamount to waving a red rag to a bull if unofficial. So its possible Prince shut this down with the quickness.

If that was the case it would have been a piece of piss to upload a new graphic without the symbol.

Also, if the symol was the problem, wouldn't the Twitter account have been shut down too? It's all very odd.

I'm no intellectual property expert, but the term NPG itself is probably a trademark. But in any case, I don't think the person or people who put the website up did so intending to make trouble with Prince. If they weren't told to do it, they must have at least thought he would like it. Otherwise, they'd be complaining on here about how Prince ruined their plans.

oh come on u know it's official. remember when 3rdeyegirl first came around and the "doc-talk" on how she wanted 2 sell some pictures of prince? (btw when do we get to c them? )

imo there was too much effort put into this site and it's too similar to other Prince's sites right now (and I mean not only the fonts used). I still think it's official and we'll c onenpg back soon.

but u know...

Everything you think is true

electricberet said:

I'm no intellectual property expert, but the term NPG itself is probably a trademark.

it is. owned by someone else. which was the reason why npgmucclub.com shut down

electricberet said:

funkomatic said:

A 7th chance...you said it!

Everybody has to decide for himself.

BTW: It's not about the money, it's about a principle. How often do you visit a restaurant if the customer service leaves a lot to be desired?

I don't. But neither do I sneak into the back and steal food from the kitchen.

kewlschool said:

He would probably only release what is out there already (Because of the uploading to sites). If he chooses to release some vault stuff, I'm okay with that.

And I believe that Prince is aware of the ONENPG.org and smoke screen with the lawyer bit.

Prince is playing with all of us.

He may just want to get email count of people who would be interested in purchasing vault material.

The sad thing is that Prince really thinks he is on to some genius creative stuff with lawyers. He doesn't know what is cringe-worthy and what isn't. He is jugheading and Tony M'ing himself and can't figure out the routine is way past this side of stale and overblown, and not funny.

Just like the hidden track on 20Ten, he think's he's really on to something. Sad, but if it means we get vault stuff, I'm willing to clown on him for his corny ways.

KeithyT said:

Part of me thinks that if it was a group/collective of hardcore fans AND they had a cease and desist type of thing handed to them then it would be all over this site (meaning the actual individuals would be moaning).

It's not like most people on the receiving end of what is perceived as heavy handed tactics from Prince's legal team, ever shy away from ripping him to pieces about it.

Another part of me (hee-hee! MJ) thinks that the ONENPG site WAS using the official Prince symbol (copyright/reg trademark etc) in its graphics and that's tantamount to waving a red rag to a bull if unofficial. So its possible Prince shut this down with the quickness.

Who knows? Smoke and mirrors...

Well, there probably are at least a few extremely naive fans that do think it is against the law to make a website pleading with your favorite artist to open the vault.

Obviously, only those who really know, have all the facts and the absolute truth, but I am 95% convinced it was a dumb ploy by Prince.

Prince could actually be naive or bully enough to think he could shut the site down if he didn't put it up, but who knows? Somebody.

alandail said:

past experience? how does his doing things the wrong way before mean he can't be doing something better now.

In the case of Lotusflow3r you had to spend $77 without knowing what you'd get for your money. This time around it costs $88 cents for a song or $1.77 for a video. You get what you pay for, the prices are competitive with other outlets.

People want new material and vault content including unlreasesd albums, concerts, videos, movies. Prince isn't going to just give this stuff away. If he's doing things reasonably right, isn't the right thing to do to support it by actually paying for the music? If you bought everything he's commercially released in the past 3+ years it's only cost about $10.

Persoanally I'd rather see a steady stream of releases of music, videos, concerts, etc, that meant spending 10x that each year. And that's simply not going to happen if people keep stealing his work instead of paying the small price he charges for it.

[Edited 2/14/13 7:49am]

I am smart enough and dumb enough to fall for a Prince website again. Some who have more restraint than I do, don't like getting screwed. Prince has screwed fans with websites and Crystal Balls OVER AND OVER AND OVER...and then made fun of the $77 by putting 77 tracks on 20Ten.

So some fans who decide to never give him another online dollar...I respect them.

I'm just too obsessed to not fall for it all over again. I wish I were smarter, but I am what I am, and I love me.

PurpleSpirit319 said:

djThunderfunk said:

And that is why Prince has not released anything in the last couple years, because of people like you. Thanks...

Basically, he hasnt released anything outstanding in about 17 years anyway, so I dont know what all the fuss is about!! My cut-off point for anything official was Emancipation in 1996!! Everything else after that has been very poor-standard!!

After that I got The War jam session and then the VERY last bootleg I got, in terms of performance date and acquistion date, was the Septimo TV Show, which I still play down to today!! The One Night Alone live Box-Set, with the It Aint Over aftershow compilation, just sits on my shelves gathering dust, as does all his official releases after Emancipation, particularly the ones I got FREE with newspapers!!

PurpleSpirit319= Bart "Everything Prince has ever done since....REALLY SUCKS."

djThunderfunk= Kookmuziq, MASTERPIECE!!!

Well, not really, but you both are wrong.

Prince has a lot of music in the last few years that is great. Tons of people older than 35 show an odd resistance to new music or change of any kind. I fight this at times, but with music, I make sure I don't just hear the music, I LISTEN to it. I still hate Daddy Pop after 20 plus years, but I gave it my all to like it. Planet Earth is no Masterpiece, but it's a very good album. Many on here could see every wrinkle on their face looking at the back of the cd, since they hardly played it more than once...

DJ Thunder: If you really believe somebody complaining is why Prince hasn't released anything lately, you really should consider getting some help for that.

Yes, Prince has serious issues going in his head. He's the last one on Earth to let ANYBODY dictate how he releases music. Especially Fans he keeps screwing over. HE does what HE wants.

[Edited 2/15/13 17:31pm]

stillwaiting said:

...and then made fun of the $77 by putting 77 tracks on 20Ten.

For real? That's just cold. Or, at best, ignorant. Yikes.

stillwaiting said:

PurpleSpirit319 said:

Basically, he hasnt released anything outstanding in about 17 years anyway, so I dont know what all the fuss is about!! My cut-off point for anything official was Emancipation in 1996!! Everything else after that has been very poor-standard!!

After that I got The War jam session and then the VERY last bootleg I got, in terms of performance date and acquistion date, was the Septimo TV Show, which I still play down to today!! The One Night Alone live Box-Set, with the It Aint Over aftershow compilation, just sits on my shelves gathering dust, as does all his official releases after Emancipation, particularly the ones I got FREE with newspapers!!

PurpleSpirit319= Bart "Everything Prince has ever done since....REALLY SUCKS."

djThunderfunk= Kookmuziq, MASTERPIECE!!!

Well, not really, but you both are wrong.

Prince has a lot of music in the last few years that is great. Tons of people older than 35 show an odd resistance to new music or change of any kind. I fight this at times, but with music, I make sure I don't just hear the music, I LISTEN to it. I still hate Daddy Pop after 20 plus years, but I gave it my all to like it. Planet Earth is no Masterpiece, but it's a very good album. Many on here could see every wrinkle on their face looking at the back of the cd, since they hardly played it more than once...

DJ Thunder: If you really believe somebody complaining is why Prince hasn't released anything lately, you really should consider getting some help for that.

Yes, Prince has serious issues going in his head. He's the last one on Earth to let ANYBODY dictate how he releases music. Especially Fans he keeps screwing over. HE does what HE wants.

[Edited 2/15/13 17:31pm]

Koolmuziq MASTERPIECE?!?! Really? Hilarious...

I highlighted the portion of PurpleSpirit's post that I was refering to:

djThunderfunk said:

PurpleSpirit319 said:

I WONT pay for anything online Prince-related!! Once bitten twice shy!! Particularly after his last online fiascos, going back at least 10 years!! I am so glad that I didnt part with $77 for the Lotusfuckup site!!

I havent even paid 88c for the new songs on the 3rdEyeGirl site!! I listened to them for FREE on Facebook, so why would I PAY for them ???

I am OK with OneNPG.org having my email address, but I am sure glad that I didnt give over my credit or debit card details and/or Bank details, and my address!!

And that is why Prince has not released anything in the last couple years, because of people like you. Thanks...

I have no idea where you get this idea:

"DJ Thunder: If you really believe somebody complaining is why Prince hasn't released anything lately, you really should consider getting some help for that."

I was clearly refering to the statement of why should I buy it when I can listen for free. This is the attitude that I'm saying makes Prince not want his stuff on the internet and call his fans bootleggers.

There's no Bart in this discussion either, I totally get being burned and not buying now. That's not near the level of being like Bart. I don't get the, why whould I pay if I can find it for free, thing, though. So I opined on it. That's what we do around here, no?

eyewishuheaven said:

stillwaiting said:

...and then made fun of the $77 by putting 77 tracks on 20Ten.

For real? That's just cold. Or, at best, ignorant. Yikes.

I didn't know that either. Sounds like Prince smacked down his fans just like he did the Time and Family recently because he can and yet everyone still comes back for more.

Why so many sites? I signed up but I was having trouble earlier downloading his new material so I hope that the two sites are not ran by the same people because it seems to be a headache right now.

trax said:

eyewishuheaven said:

For real? That's just cold. Or, at best, ignorant. Yikes.

I didn't know that either. Sounds like Prince smacked down his fans just like he did the Time and Family recently because he can and yet everyone still comes back for more.

Yes, as stated by an orger: we're jumping on the purple boat like crack babies

The new songs are 56p each. Hardly a rip-off.

eyewishuheaven said:

stillwaiting said:

...and then made fun of the $77 by putting 77 tracks on 20Ten.

For real? That's just cold. Or, at best, ignorant. Yikes.

There's no evidence Prince 'made fun of the $77 by putting 77 tracks on 20ten.' The number is significant to Prince and has been for years.

Lest I also remind you that the entire 20ten album was available free with a newspaper. It cost most people less than £1.00.

OperatingThetan said:

eyewishuheaven said:

For real? That's just cold. Or, at best, ignorant. Yikes.

There's no evidence Prince 'made fun of the $77 by putting 77 tracks on 20ten.' The number is significant to Prince and has been for years.

Lest I also remind you that the entire 20ten album was available free with a newspaper. It cost most people less than £1.00.

Certainly, that's why I gave him the benefit of the doubt and supposed it was just pure ignorance at work.

But, I would qualify your second statement by saying that most of the people who got 20Ten got it for free, or less than a pound. Everybody on this side of the pond has had to pay the eBay going rate or just plain steal it... neither of which I've yet been compelled to do.

rdhull said:

IstenSzek said:

is that a new prince song or something else?

All of these sayings the past weeks are lyrics to his songs.

What?!?!... NO big controversy before Wednesday?! Whatever will Seth and the Doc talk about tonight?!~

SuperFurryAnimal said:

rdhull said:

All of these sayings the past weeks are lyrics to his songs.

Nice.

Girls can do more than just serving the big boys water.

OperatingThetan said:

Did this site get shut down? I went to check on it tonight and all I get is a black page?

HornyPony said:

Did this site get shut down? I went to check on it tonight and all I get is a black page?

Yes.

Or it shut itself down voluntarily, depending on which version you believe.