Do you agree or disagree?

I think the pudding proof can be found on this site's own homepage poll:

Has the addition of new tracks changed your opinion of www.lotusflow3r.com?

I never signed up!
50.2%

No! I still feel ripped off.
32.0%

No! I have always loved it!
10.8%

Yes! I now feel is is a good value.
5.9%

Yes! It is Worse.
1.0%

Among fans on a Prince website half didn't even feel it worth signing up for. 33% of sign-ups clearly have had a very poor experience with it, while only just under 16% have positive things to say.

16% of fans like an artist's website? That's awful, no? They already like the artist so it's not like they can even really be completely objective (like a captive audience, already being fans), yet still on the whole they feel shafted or are completely unmoved.

Why exactly do you think Prince fans are either so indifferent or so disappointed with his website? Does the indifference towards the website also reflect a waning interest in the music among fans? I can't see how it couldn't.

I never signed up!

and I'm glad I never did.

I remember the Crystal Ball scandal in 1997 (98?), I ordered the CB-cd set, but never got it, I even spend a huge amount on an expensive phonecall from Denmark to 1-800-new-funk, I talked to them but they couldn't help me... oh that was bad,

and now this lotusflow3r site with older material we own already, and no downloads, no news, (so I have heard, since I chose not to pay to be a member).

it's almost humiliating to be a Prince fan isn't it,

should 1 laugh or cry...
[Edited 11/6/09 3:49am]

Fauxie said:

I agree lotusflow3r is poop, but only 203 people have answered that poll so how accurate is it statistically??

xenon said:

Still, it's a cross-section of fans. Any reason why it wouldn't be representative?

i expected unreleased FULL concerts and unreleased music and the odd streamed live concert .....maybe i was expecting too much but for 52 uk pounds ( which could have bought me ten albums !!!)....i dont think so.....had to pay postage for the cheap t-shirt as well....no, i wont be falling for it again....i will get my stuff free next time like everyone else instead of trying to do the right thing and pay for it .....

Fauxie said:

Yes, with such a small number of respondents you can't be sure that it is a true cross section. Non-respondents carry a lot more weight statistically than often given credit for and you need to take their possible answers into account. Making conclusions about a much broader population than your sample represents is one of the biggest no-no's in statistics.
[Edited 11/6/09 4:18am]

I didn't cast a vote in the poll. But adding the songs was NICE, but not a point gainer for me.. the songs were available to me elsewhere first.. imagine that!!! I did go back and download directly from LF.com but.... UMMMMM.. still NOT living up to it's potential.
Prince IS my favorite artist.. I STILL like to live under the philosophy that he can DO do wrong... I almost feel a bit in denial, until I hear current top 40.. and when I'm DJ my karaoke shows.... I'm like... Oh dear!!!! I come home and listen to Prince and the world once again is perfect. Let's never forget that soft spot we all have.

Some of us that did not join Lotusflow3r.com just can't afford too...Several of us would spend a hundred dollars on a Prince web site, just to be around supporting music we love.

I want 2 join regardless of some of the negative comments.

I am a member and early on was impressed with the site. As time progressed I became more dissatisfied with the lack of content. I knew that "whole" concerts would not be on the site but I did expect more than what they have done.My main problem is the fact that he could do more on the lines of the old NPGMC shows but he does not. WHY?

If you take away those that didn't sign up from the poll results, it's about 2-to-1 for Lotu$flower being a failure.

Glad I'm not a diehard, because I've enjoyed the crap out flower and sound.

I never signed up, but I think if I had been old enough before its official launch I would have


After what I heard about it so far, no chance for me signing up, even if I was old enough and had the money to.

sovembol said:

I was very happy with the 3 downloads...but he just needs to give us more to make this site worth the $$. What he SHOULD do is put the recent Paisley Park or Paris show up to download...like the WHOLE thing.

I joined but I never go there. Can't even remember the password.

Prince doesn't get my money in advance for anything any more. I want to know what I'm paying for because he is not to be trusted in this sense.

U don't need a poll 2 realize that Lotusflow3r.com was and is a COMPLETE waste of $$ and time.

muleFunk said:

I feel the same way you do. I wasn't expecting it to be a duplicate of 3121 or the NPGMC, but I was expecting more than what we got. A t-shirt, one bonus song and a hand full of videos and pics we've already seen don't count to me. I know he wants to do something different, but it could be a better site.

Tame said:

me 2....regurdless.. i will always support when i can

I am still loving the Lotusflower album, MPLS not so much save for a couple standout racks.

As far as the site goes I am disappointed but not surprised. Anyone who is going to spend that much money on the site will be a big enough fan that they will have already seen most of the videos posted. The T-shirt quality was simply embarrassing.

I love Prince but he really can be a cheap SOB.

nyse said:

At this point and time, I don't think it would be beneficial to join (unless you really just want the t-shirt). He has already said that he was at the point where he could play at his leisure. To me, that means he's not going to tour unless he really has to.

I was like that in the beginning. I thought I just HAD TO join to support P. After giving away $77, I realized that I could have placed that $77 on something else.

I got my 3 CD's download, my T-shirt, some coachella videos and stuff i hadnt seen before, for 60 bucks.
I'm not gonna bitch about that, wasn't expecting much more.

I never signed up. I've learned too many times that Prince likes to screw his fans. Unless I can physically touch the CD or immediately download something after I pay money, I see no point in paying $77....especially DURING ONE OF THE WORST RECESSIONS OF THE U.S. MIND YOU!. Point is, if I can't get it...it doesn't exist and it never will. The promises of a new site with all his bells and whistles doesn't mean shit if I can't have access to great Prince music that Prince is withholding from his fans for his own personal financial gain. Prince, you can't take it with you when you die, release all of your Vault stuff. damnit! Off to listen to Metallica.

violetblues said:

What hadn't you seen before the site opened?

NouveauDance said:

I'm the same way now. Prince has run this scam three or four times and never explained himself or truly made things right. He's been interviewed, I don't know how many times, but no one ever calls him on it. All I can do is keep my money to myself and spread the message to other fans to be very careful with paying Prince for anything because he really has no shame when it comes to money.

i didnt sign up but i still feel ripped off

I feel that I can and done join other fan/band sites for far less money and gotten more then what lotusflowers members have gotten for their buck. Hell I even have gotten to talk to the artist/band in their chat room on their site.

The site had problems from the beginning.

I heard from others how terrible the site is(close people I trust) and they respected my decision not to join lotusflower.

So to each their own on this.

I'm satisfied with the site I just want the long intro to go away. Dont need to sit through it every time.

you guys b!tch too much, some artists dont even care about fanclubs or have any, they just want their publishing/royalties & tour money

Prince really doesnt need a fanclub, its awesome he has one and does what he can, when he can and wants to. Remember HE DOESNT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.

you get a ton of videos, exclusive videos, a t-shirt, ticket offerings for more than 4 shows w/priority seating, 3 full albums, exclusive photos.

Just be happy the site is still up!
[Edited 11/6/09 10:28am]

daPrettyman said:

The Coachella Creep video in such good quality for one, im not saying the 60 bucks was money well spent, or that it was such a good deal, just that after all these i did not expect much, but as a fan i still get excited to check out his new work.
60 bucks is a lot of money, but as entertainment goes, some of us will spend that tonight on gas, a baby sitter, dinner and movie.
[Edited 11/6/09 10:44am]

Money well spent? Not really. But I'm not really that disappointed.

I got a shirt, three albums, access to videos I hadn't ever seen as a newer fan (The Undertaker, The Sacrifice of Victor, etc. etc.). In addition, I got tickets to the Paisley Park gig, and while I could have got them at the door, I had a 14 hour drive so even the illusion of "being on a list" made me feel better about making that drive. If I had driven that long only to be turned away at the door, I would have been shattered.

I hope that more comes out of it, but if not, I won't resubscribe. With no announced plans of a tour, even a newer fan can only get so much use out of the site.

daPrettyman said:

haha...maybe we should all boy cott his stuff and force a tourout of him...lol