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Thread started 05/20/09 10:39am

shellyann

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6 reasons why we are disappointed!

These three press releases or articles specifically state what we will get with our membership. Unfortunately most of this has nothing to do with the contract on Lotusflow3r.Feel free to add to the list or correct me if I am wrong!


1. Exclusive first week content and a T-shirt – (No exclusive content and no T-shirt yet)
2. Exclusive information about private or secret shows (I have learned about all gigs thus far, from other sources)
3. Possible full length concerts, as well as unreleased music (No unreleased music, but some unreleased video)
4. An array of Film footage and music from the vault (No music from the vault; some film footage)
5. Perks such as live-cam concerts from the mansion (This will be March 25th, 2010, and we will all subscribe again)
6. First dibs at tickets to live shows, unannounced gigs (Trouble with initial access for some of us, did not justify the trip to go to only one gig)

The truth is, these articles and press releases colored our perception, and that is why we are disappointed!

Prince also plans to give his fans access to tickets to live shows, concert footage from past performances, exclusive imagery from his past albums and other exclusive photos, exclusive information about any private or secret shows, as well as exclusive content that will only be available in the first week of the site launch and may never become available again. Fans who join the site early will also receive a boutique-quality “Founding Member” t-shirt that displays the central image from the galaxy. Over time, Prince will continue to give fans more access to high-end never released photos and video content and much more.- Press release Drfunkenberry.com
Spinner- and to give fans their money's worth, Prince will continue to roll out content on a regular basis, including live video clips and possible full-length concerts, as well as unreleased music. According to Clay,- Spinner –Prince To Open up vaults for New Web Site
Prince's revamped Web domain, appropriately Lotusflow3r.com, gives his loyal followers exclusive access to an array of film footage and music from the Purple One's "Vault" -- a library that contains an immense amount of unreleased material. At a lofty annual subscription price of $77, fans also will be treated to such perks as live-cam concerts from the mansion and first dibs at tickets for last-minute, unannounced gigs, which have become a Prince trademark.- Variety- Prince Works Outside Record Label
[Edited 5/20/09 10:40am]
Wake up!......Wake up!
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Reply #1 posted 05/20/09 8:03pm

Sdldawn

it's the best site in the galaxy
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Reply #2 posted 05/20/09 8:19pm

Genesia

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The exclusive content in the first week was the album - including a track that was not on the Target release.
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Reply #3 posted 05/20/09 10:58pm

DigMeNow

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Reply #4 posted 05/20/09 11:08pm

Sdldawn

it's an entire new galaxy that awaits you..
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Reply #5 posted 05/20/09 11:18pm

japanrocks

I guess all internet galaxies have black holes.
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Reply #6 posted 05/21/09 12:25am

shellyann

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Genesia said:

The exclusive content in the first week was the album - including a track that was not on the Target release.


Good Point! I forgot about that, but it is not truly exclusive, if everyone gets to hear it after the first week ...now is it?
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Reply #7 posted 05/21/09 12:27am

shellyann

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japanrocks said:

I guess all internet galaxies have black holes.


Thank you...enough said!
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Reply #8 posted 05/21/09 12:32am

shellyann

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DigMeNow said:

I have faith that Lotusflow3r will add some new material to the site in the future. It wouldn't make sense to spend all that time designing and creating that website and do nothing more to or with it. It's relatively still early since we joined....just relax and one day soon we will see some new stuff. nod


It's not good to eat an entire bag of candy all at once. foodnow

Have some gin absolut and juice orange

With so much drama in the P. O.R.G, it's hard to be D-I-G...Hear Me Now.

lol OK for some reason that sounded really funny in my head. neutral


I actually have that faith too! I just want everyone else to realize that what is said in the media,may be what is coloring so many perceptions!
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Reply #9 posted 05/21/09 5:06am

ThreadBare

Write the authors of the articles that helped color your expectations and let them know just how off-base their articles have turned out to be.
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Reply #10 posted 05/21/09 5:08am

Sdldawn

"Will unlock the ability to subscribe to LotusFlow3r.com, get his new albums, see loads of photos and videos, and have access to pre-sale concert tix, all for a annual fee of $77"


That is on the newspaper.. and pretty much says.. yo ass ain't gettin anything else.
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Reply #11 posted 05/21/09 9:24am

Farfunknugin

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This is a problem when you promise things & then try to deliver them on the fly.
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Reply #12 posted 05/21/09 9:32am

Genesia

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shellyann said:

Genesia said:

The exclusive content in the first week was the album - including a track that was not on the Target release.


Good Point! I forgot about that, but it is not truly exclusive, if everyone gets to hear it after the first week ...now is it?


People who only bought the Target release didn't get The Morning After, at all.
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Reply #13 posted 05/21/09 9:48am

RodeoSchro

Genesia said:

The exclusive content in the first week was the album - including a track that was not on the Target release.


But the Target release has exclusive content that the Lotusflower members didn't get, and that was NOT cool.

After paying $77 to join the site, we were asked to pay $11.98 for "Crimson and Clover".

Uncool.
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Reply #14 posted 05/21/09 10:45am

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Sdldawn said:

it's the best site in the galaxy


It's very exclusive. nod

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Reply #15 posted 05/21/09 12:23pm

maya

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I'm disappointed to say the least. I got robbed. I was really expecting something comparable to NPGMC... But that's our Prince(of thieves), always promising and rarely delivering.
Jamie Starr is a thief... that bitch owes me $77.00!
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Reply #16 posted 05/21/09 2:29pm

shellyann

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Genesia said:

shellyann said:



Good Point! I forgot about that, but it is not truly exclusive, if everyone gets to hear it after the first week ...now is it?


People who only bought the Target release didn't get The Morning After, at all.


But people who join after the first week, do!
The press release states as well as exclusive content that will only be available in the first week of the site launch and may never become available again. Fans who join the site early will also receive a boutique-quality “Founding Member” t-shirt that displays the central image from the galaxy
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Reply #17 posted 05/21/09 6:08pm

Vendetta1

But some of us are not disappointed. I joined full well not expecting anything.
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Reply #18 posted 05/21/09 7:55pm

lammp4

Vendetta1 said:

But some of us are not disappointed. I joined full well not expecting anything.
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Reply #19 posted 05/21/09 8:06pm

lammp4

lammp4 said:

Vendetta1 said:

But some of us are not disappointed. I joined full well not expecting anything.



PRINCE IS STILL GREAT BUT CONSISTENTLY INCONSISTENT. I SIGNED UP AT LOTUS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, AND GOT MY CONFIRMATION LETTER. NOW THAT THE SITE IS UP, I AM NOT ABLE TO LOG ON. AND REQUESTING A "FORGOT PASSWORD" TELLS YOU IT CANT. YEAH, DISSAPOINTED AND NOT EXPECTING MUCH. LIFE OF THE PRINCE FAITHFUL. sad






















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Reply #20 posted 05/21/09 9:58pm

Sdldawn

Vendetta1 said:

But some of us are not disappointed. I joined full well not expecting anything.


I think that says more about you than it does Prince.
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Reply #21 posted 05/22/09 4:45am

Vendetta1

Sdldawn said:

Vendetta1 said:

But some of us are not disappointed. I joined full well not expecting anything.


I think that says more about you than it does Prince.
that's good. I hope. lol

I guess I just don't get the beefing around here like Prince fans are brand new. He promises stuff: he snatches it away. He's done it for over 10 years. I don't let it bother me. I joined because I don't want to miss anything just in case.
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Reply #22 posted 05/22/09 8:27pm

HAZE03

The last two memberships I've purchased, have been very satisfying to me and sometimes pleasantly suprising. The new music, the chat rooms and merchandise were fun and exciting. I got music unavailable to the public and first shot at countless concerts. I had tickets so close If I wanted to I could reach out touch him. I recieved so many things from my past memberships, I can't remember what I paid for and what I recieved for free. I am thankful and satisfied with what I recieved from my past memberships.

I joined lotus flow3r with the only expectation of getting good concert tickets and a chance at maybe getting some exclusive music. When I signed up I didn't know the album and a shirt came with the membership. I had already bought the album at Target before I found out about the site. So I guess I paid twice for the album and got an extra song, and a T-shirt on the way. At this point I don't feel that the site is what I thought it would be, especially if I compare this site to Prince's past sites.

I'm not going to be negative and say anything mean because that would be the easy thing to do. I am a little sad though. Being that he is Prince I expected more from his site launch. And because of his spunkyness and energy I sometimes forget that he is 50. Maybe at 50 he's doing the best he can. I told myself along time ago that I wouldn't put my faith in people to make me happy and that I would adjust to others and thier actions and make my own happiness. I still believe in making my own happiness. If I make a mistake or bad judgment on my road to happiness, I learn from it. I knew it was a gamble before I spent my 77.00. I still feel like the odds are in my favor. I never loan or spend money unless I can stand to lose it or accept the possibility of getting hosed. For now I will wait and see what lesson I learn.
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Reply #23 posted 05/22/09 9:27pm

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maya said:

I'm disappointed to say the least. I got robbed. I was really expecting something comparable to NPGMC... But that's our Prince(of thieves), always promising and rarely delivering.


Good lord. You have NOT been robbed.

Although the rate of updates has been rather stingy so far, the site has delivered everything that was offered: We've been given downloads of the new albums, the opportunity to buy tickets (and really, whether you're in LA or not is irrelavent. We weren't promised a tour.), exclusive videos have been uploaded (again, maybe not the videos we were all hoping to see, but again, that's irrelevant) and the t-shirts are on their way.

Yes, I'm disappointed with the site so far and yes, they need to do a hell of lot more to make it worth signing up again, but people need to stop acting like they've been ripped off. Grow up and take ownership of for the choice you made to pay the site membership fee.
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Reply #24 posted 05/23/09 2:22am

shellyann

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TwiliteKid said:

maya said:

I'm disappointed to say the least. I got robbed. I was really expecting something comparable to NPGMC... But that's our Prince(of thieves), always promising and rarely delivering.


Good lord. You have NOT been robbed.

Although the rate of updates has been rather stingy so far, the site has delivered everything that was offered: We've been given downloads of the new albums, the opportunity to buy tickets (and really, whether you're in LA or not is irrelavent. We weren't promised a tour.), exclusive videos have been uploaded (again, maybe not the videos we were all hoping to see, but again, that's irrelevant) and the t-shirts are on their way.

Yes, I'm disappointed with the site so far and yes, they need to do a hell of lot more to make it worth signing up again, but people need to stop acting like they've been ripped off. Grow up and take ownership of for the choice you made to pay the site membership fee.


Good point! I only tried to express misconceptions from media as the source of our disappointment!
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Reply #25 posted 05/23/09 11:22am

NuPwrSoul

Vendetta1 said:

Sdldawn said:



I think that says more about you than it does Prince.
that's good. I hope. lol

I guess I just don't get the beefing around here like Prince fans are brand new. He promises stuff: he snatches it away. He's done it for over 10 years. I don't let it bother me. I joined because I don't want to miss anything just in case.


It says we're jaded and that's sad. Prince has cultivated a pessimism that's necessary to put up with his antics.

You're right: the only people who even thought this was going to be anything special were those who were not long time fans/followers/members/etc. That includes lazy journalists who get their writing/talking points from press releases, and it also includes the Lotusflow3r designers who admittedly were not familiar with Prince's work... so whatever he gives them is new and exciting.

But hell even some long time fans who got to preview the site at his house and elsewhere came back and posted "something you've never seen! it's amazing!" type reviews.

In the end, like you I am not surprised, but I am in perpetual state of disappointment as far as this site is concerned. And it's like the law of inertia--and object at rest tends to stay at rest until another object comes into contact with it. Until something happens to turn this around, Lotusflow3r is wilted and dried up.
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"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #26 posted 05/23/09 1:44pm

Vendetta1

NuPwrSoul said:

Vendetta1 said:

that's good. I hope. lol

I guess I just don't get the beefing around here like Prince fans are brand new. He promises stuff: he snatches it away. He's done it for over 10 years. I don't let it bother me. I joined because I don't want to miss anything just in case.


It says we're jaded and that's sad. Prince has cultivated a pessimism that's necessary to put up with his antics.

You're right: the only people who even thought this was going to be anything special were those who were not long time fans/followers/members/etc. That includes lazy journalists who get their writing/talking points from press releases, and it also includes the Lotusflow3r designers who admittedly were not familiar with Prince's work... so whatever he gives them is new and exciting.

But hell even some long time fans who got to preview the site at his house and elsewhere came back and posted "something you've never seen! it's amazing!" type reviews.

In the end, like you I am not surprised, but I am in perpetual state of disappointment as far as this site is concerned. And it's like the law of inertia--and object at rest tends to stay at rest until another object comes into contact with it. Until something happens to turn this around, Lotusflow3r is wilted and dried up.
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The only thing I am jaded about is the fact that NPGMC didn't have to end. We had a family vibe there that does not exist anywhere else. Lotusflow3r is not a better site, it's worse in my opinion.
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Reply #27 posted 05/23/09 2:46pm

Sdldawn

NuPwrSoul said:



But hell even some long time fans who got to preview the site at his house and elsewhere came back and posted "something you've never seen! it's amazing!" type reviews.



did you see who they were? that was expected. And also, they were invited to prince's house... If he fed them cakes filled with his own shit, they would have been polishing his ass just like their "amazing" website.
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Reply #28 posted 05/23/09 2:50pm

Vendetta1

Sdldawn said:

NuPwrSoul said:



But hell even some long time fans who got to preview the site at his house and elsewhere came back and posted "something you've never seen! it's amazing!" type reviews.



did you see who they were? that was expected. And also, they were invited to prince's house... If he fed them cakes filled with his own shit, they would have been polishing his ass just like their "amazing" website.
I don't agree with that. RDHull has always spoken his mind about Prince, good and bad and Pej and Amorbella do not sit on this site and shoot sunshine up Prince's ass like some of the other people do.
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Reply #29 posted 05/23/09 3:11pm

Sdldawn

Vendetta1 said:

Sdldawn said:



did you see who they were? that was expected. And also, they were invited to prince's house... If he fed them cakes filled with his own shit, they would have been polishing his ass just like their "amazing" website.
I don't agree with that. RDHull has always spoken his mind about Prince, good and bad and Pej and Amorbella do not sit on this site and shoot sunshine up Prince's ass like some of the other people do.



well they did that night!

in all seriousness.. i think anyone from the org would have called the new site that night "Amazing"... i think it's being overwhelmed in his house.. no bad reviews were gonna be written that night
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