This is not a thread to complain about what we have not had so far.

My question: at the end of the subscription year, looking back, what amount of goods/services will make you feel like your $77 was justified?

For me, the videos and the song download of "The Morning After" were a good start. What I'd like to see before the end of the year, included in the $77:

• Members-only standalone album (physical release) - this could be a remixed LotusFlow3r/MPLSound and/or a completely separate album

• Guaranteed free soundcheck access for your region only if/when he tours. This would be separate from actual concert ticket purchases.

• Limited-time access to redownload the previous Musicology downloads again (that is just wishful thinking, but that would go a long way to appease me)

A refund.

Graycap23 said:

unreleased songs on a monthly basis like the NPGMC

Graycap23 said:

Refund aside, what would it take?

Se7en said:

Honestly, at this point nothing. I just want a refund and I'm done with Prince's Web related projects.
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Just the actual "carrots" they dangled to get you suck...oh...uh...loyalists to join up.

The 10 cds of unreleased music. The live streaming shows from his house. The exclusive footage from previous never before seen concerts that were professionally taped.

Though these things were never directly stated as being part of the agreement to join. They were definitely and deliberately implied as incentive to join!

right now, a sign of life would be nice.

A "subservient Princey" area where we can make him do jiu jitsu moves.

An apology(and a refund)

2the9s said:

Yes! I have sweet skills at Jiu Jitsu. If it was multiplayer it could settle the Strongman competition between you me and HobbesLeCute once and for all...
[Edited 6/3/09 8:30am]

Anxiety said:

some intarest in the project might be nice-and outside the US too. so were kind-a relying on the site-and sadly-its pretty-pretty useless at the moment. I honestly dont think its worth the money-especially as the vids are streaming-they did say they'd be downloadable.....initially i liked itr-cuz i hadnt seen alot of the vids-but come on-its not changed much now in 3 months-i mean even though weve seen it-put the latest Leno clips up. I think he's done with Lotusflow3r. Had his pay. Got the girl. Jobs a good un'.....man he is a strange one though-the best guitar stuff in years-and it dont look like its going on the road.....the momentum in this project has gone-and thats from the him more than us-so how does he expect us to stay intarested.....

something.. anything.. that we actually want.
At this stage even a store where we could buy some new exclusive stuff.

Anything that would make me feel like I wasn't being fucked over.

I complained to Lotusflow3r support about the crap content and the lack of concert tickets outside of LA. Got a quick and polite answer (below). By the sounds of it, they are not happy campers either.

"Hi Rory,

I'm sorry that you're disappointed with Lotusflow3r.com so far. All I can say is that I hope, as the year progresses and more content is added you'll feel happier with the experience.

I agree with you, it does seem unfair that all the concert tickets available so far have been for shows in LA. Obviously we have no control over where or when Prince decides to tour, but we will endeavor to keep our members updated, and to offer exclusive tickets to shows through the site.

I can also let you know that there are going to be new videos added to the site very soon, which I hope you'll enjoy watching!

Lotusflow3r.com support"



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To be honest, I like Prince for the music and the live experience. T shirts, merchandise, exclusive pictures don't interest me too much. Even the videos are nothing special, if I don't already have the clips they can be seen elsewhere on the web.

So, maybe some exclusive (members only) music would go some way towards appeasing the disappointed members. I know that live concert tickets can't please everybody as it's impossible to please all of his supporters around the world and play gigs everywhere. Make the videos easily downloadable.

Just SOMETHING would be nice, it just feels like he is treating his loyal supporters (customers) with disregard at the moment. Nothing really new is on offer, the endless promises of a t shirt that never arrives, not much news.

I only visited the site twice... once to join and another time to see the 2 new promo clips which are viewable on other sites. I'll go back there if the org reports any interesting activity, this site keeps us more informed about Lotusflower updates than his actual website does.

I'm remaining hopeful that the site is on a slow burn, that something interesting & exciting will happen on there soon.

Right now, I'm in a place where I really don't care. Don't care if I get the shirt, don't care if he tours...really don't care all that much about Prince. I'm really tired of getting excited for a "project" and all it ends up being is just an album with zero extras or promotion. I mean that's fine and all, but don't tell me there is going to be more and charge me 77 bucks and give me less than I can get at Target.

I would be happy if the site was an actual website instead of just being a pretty place to house the music.

pacey68 said:

And that is precisely what is wrong with his site.

Wheres funkenberry when you need him-he could tell his 'pal', 'boss'-whatever-tell him what folk are really sayin about the site-loln not that he'd care I guess

PS-mabey you should add another sub forum-membership sales.....going cheap (ish) lol

Getting to see the rumoured '3121 -The Movie'... main reason I joined to see that.

I wonder if fans of other artists are as frustrated as we are with Prince? Who else out there treats their fans like sh*t?

maya said:

i signed up for sonic youth's latest fan site, and so far i've gotten presale ticket access, two exclusive download tracks, a stream of their new album, and on the day their album is release, i'm getting the CD, a live EP and a poster.

i paid about $28 for all this.

polkadotbliss said:

There should definitely be a free section. Even if it's only news and a few pictures, it's something.

lol-i actually meant so we-the members can sell our memberships

Regular content (like music) would be fine for me. I assume that we will have access to great seats for any tour he may be putting together. If that doesn't occur I can promise I won't be a founding member of the next club as I have been for every other. I need some value for my money. I've learned over the years to not expect too much but this time around I've realized I'm not asking for much really. I joined an online music club I'd like to get some music.

I'm starting to wonder if this site isn't a bigger failure/fiasco than the Crystal Ball mail order mess. At least with CB, *most* people eventually wound up getting what they ordered.

Not much for me to say that others haven't already covered. I want music (that I don't already have) and downloadable videos would be nice. Two cd's worth of previously unavailable outtakes (preferably on cd but a download would be ok) would go a long way towards making the site worth my $77.00.

I'm probably being extremely naive but I am hoping that there will be a cd of new material included with the t-shirt.

rialb said:

I wouldn't say naive, but overly optimistic? Maybe.

But I feel the same way, so call me whatever you are.

anything ... just ... anything