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Thread started 03/25/09 8:13am

Doozer

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Inventory of goods on lotusflow3r - please update with your take

Here's my quick summation of what's available on lotusflow3r.com for those still pondering joining. Feel free to add to the list - maybe this can become a sticky for site content if the mods feel it's appropriate to show what membership on the site gets you as of now:

1. The three albums - available as 320 kbps mp3 files or as lossless wav files for immediate download.

Albums are about 100 mb each as mp3 downloads, about 450-470 mb each as wav files. I've not been able to get the wav files for MPLSound yet - it's an incomplete download (stops at around 190 mb for me). Seems like others have gotten it, though.

2. You can reserve tickets for the shows this month, although many (if not all) seem to be sold out now.

3. Each of the three albums also has lyrics (embedded in Flash, so no copying and pasting of them for safekeeping - you'll have to take screenshots or re-key them), and additional photography/art that's associated with each album (4-6 images for each album, i.e. something that might appear on the inside of the CD booklet if you were to get one). Surprisingly, the artwork itself for each album is quite small and is NOT included when you download the albums. You'll have to get a screenshot or swipe it off the internet if you want to pair the artwork with your digital music files.

4. There's a paragraph of credits for each of the three albums.

5. There's a large "crystal ball" in the Lotus Flow3r section that spins around with numerous photos of Prince (most are from the 21 Nights book). There are also videos available for streaming, not downloading. Note that many of the videos are linked to twice in the "crystal ball," so right now it looks like there's a lot more there than there actually is. One would assume this would be updated/swapped out over time on the site:

Alphabet St. (music video)
Sign O the Times (music video)
Te Amo Corazon (music video)
Diamonds and Pearls (music video)
Controversy (music video)
The Britt Awards performance
Controversy (music video)
I Wanna Be Your Lover (music video)
I Would Die For You (sic) (music video, live show)
Little Red Corvette (music video)
Guitar (Jay Leno performance which never aired)
1999 (Jay Leno performance which never aired)
Super Bowl performance
The Sacrifice of Victor film (43:41), Japanese subtitles
The Britt Awards performance
Creep (live)
Shh (live)
Somewhere Here (sic) (music video)
7/Come Together live
The 1 U Wanna C (music video)
Turn Me Loose (Jay Leno performance, aired version)

I wouldn't say that all the hype about the quality of the video was accurate - some are indeed in HD/widescreen, but most that were originally shot in 4:3 resolution have been stretched to widescreen, which makes the SD video look worse than it should. I've yet to view any video on the site without running into hiccups/choppiness.

6. There's a "sneak preview" of two videos (not much longer than what was shown on the site earlier, only larger resolution now): "Crimson and Clover" and "Chocolate Box," both do look well done. The full video for Bria's "Everytime" is available as well. All streaming, no downloading.

7. You get a t-shirt as a "founder," although it costs extra shipping if you're out of the states.

Additions?
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Reply #1 posted 03/25/09 8:14am

FunkyPhresh

Doozer said:

Here's my quick summation of what's available on lotusflow3r.com for those still pondering joining. Feel free to add to the list - maybe this can become a sticky for site content if the mods feel it's appropriate to show what membership on the site gets you as of now:

1. The three albums - available as 320 kbps mp3 files or as lossless wav files for immediate download.

Albums are about 100 mb each as mp3 downloads, about 450-470 mb each as wav files. I've not been able to get the wav files for MPLSound yet - it's an incomplete download (stops at around 190 mb for me). Seems like others have gotten it, though.

2. You can reserve tickets for the shows this month, although many (if not all) seem to be sold out now.

3. Each of the three albums also has lyrics (embedded in Flash, so no copying and pasting of them for safekeeping - you'll have to take screenshots or re-key them), and additional photography/art that's associated with each album (4-6 images for each album, i.e. something that might appear on the inside of the CD booklet if you were to get one). Surprisingly, the artwork itself for each album is quite small and is NOT included when you download the albums. You'll have to get a screenshot or swipe it off the internet if you want to pair the artwork with your digital music files.

4. There's a paragraph of credits for each of the three albums.

5. There's a large "crystal ball" in the Lotus Flow3r section that spins around with numerous photos of Prince (most are from the 21 Nights book). There are also videos available for streaming, not downloading. Note that many of the videos are linked to twice in the "crystal ball," so right now it looks like there's a lot more there than there actually is. One would assume this would be updated/swapped out over time on the site:

Alphabet St. (music video)
Sign O the Times (music video)
Te Amo Corazon (music video)
Diamonds and Pearls (music video)
Controversy (music video)
The Britt Awards performance
Controversy (music video)
I Wanna Be Your Lover (music video)
I Would Die For You (sic) (music video, live show)
Little Red Corvette (music video)
Guitar (Jay Leno performance which never aired)
1999 (Jay Leno performance which never aired)
Super Bowl performance
The Sacrifice of Victor film (43:41), Japanese subtitles
The Britt Awards performance
Creep (live)
Shh (live)
Somewhere Here (sic) (music video)
7/Come Together live
The 1 U Wanna C (music video)
Turn Me Loose (Jay Leno performance, aired version)

I wouldn't say that all the hype about the quality of the video was accurate - some are indeed in HD/widescreen, but most that were originally shot in 4:3 resolution have been stretched to widescreen, which makes the SD video look worse than it should. I've yet to view any video on the site without running into hiccups/choppiness.

6. There's a "sneak preview" of two videos (not much longer than what was shown on the site earlier, only larger resolution now): "Crimson and Clover" and "Chocolate Box," both do look well done. The full video for Bria's "Everytime" is available as well. All streaming, no downloading.

7. You get a t-shirt as a "founder," although it costs extra shipping if you're out of the states.

Additions?



but there are some bad experiences with everything you stated lol
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Reply #2 posted 03/25/09 8:16am

Doozer

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FunkyPhresh said:




but there are some bad experiences with everything you stated lol



My goal with this thread was to keep the problems at bay and just provide an inventory of music/content on the site, but yeah, I had to sprinkle in my personal experience, which seems very similar to everyone else at this point.
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Reply #3 posted 03/25/09 11:22am

BartVanHemelen

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Doozer said:

3. Each of the three albums also has lyrics (embedded in Flash, so no copying and pasting of them for safekeeping - you'll have to take screenshots or re-key them), and additional photography/art that's associated with each album (4-6 images for each album, i.e. something that might appear on the inside of the CD booklet if you were to get one). Surprisingly, the artwork itself for each album is quite small and is NOT included when you download the albums. You'll have to get a screenshot or swipe it off the internet if you want to pair the artwork with your digital music files.

4. There's a paragraph of credits for each of the three albums.


Hey Prince, ever heard of PDF files?
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Reply #4 posted 03/25/09 11:34am

BartVanHemelen

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Doozer said:

There are also videos available for streaming, not downloading.

[...]

6. There's a "sneak preview" of two videos (not much longer than what was shown on the site earlier, only larger resolution now): "Crimson and Clover" and "Chocolate Box," both do look well done. The full video for Bria's "Everytime" is available as well. All streaming, no downloading.


If it's sent to your browsers, you can download it. Example: "Prince_CnC.flv". Which BTW is sent through your browser via "download_gp.php".

FYI: Crimson & Clover video is 3:52. Chocolate box video is a mere 36 seconds.

Filenames:

Videos/Prince_CnC.flv - 35.1 MB
Videos/Prince_Choc_Box.flv - 4.27 MB
Videos/Bria_Valente_Elixer.flv - 35.6 MB
Videos/TheSacrificeOfVictor.flv - 612MB
Videos/I Wanna Be Your Lover.flv
Videos/Diamonds and Pearls.flv
Videos/Little Red Corvette.flv
Videos/Sign O The Times.flv
Videos/Controversy.flv
Videos/1999-Leno.flv
Videos/Alphabet Street.flv
Videos/TheSuperBowl.flv
Videos/TheBritAwards.flv
Videos/Creep.flv
Videos/7-ComeTogether.flv
Videos/SomewhereHere.flv
Videos/The1UWannaC.flv
Videos/Leno-TurnMeLoose.flv
Videos/Alphabet Street.flv

Beware: there is ZERO consistency on the site. Some of these play automatically, others have to be activated by pressing a play button. Some of these are okay, many however seem to be ripped from inferior sources (I'm suspecting VHS rips) and often have an incorrect aspect ratio (4:3 stretched to 16:9). This even applies to recent videos!

Note that you're better off downloading o your PC: Turn Me Loose on leno is 4:3, is forced into 16:9 on the site but plays as 4:3 in you download the FLV. HOWEVER, that it is 4:3 is rather pathetic when you consider that Leno is broadcast in 16:9 HDTV. Once again, you're better off when you find an illegal rip, because it will be in better quality.

Oh, and unless I'm mistaken, most or all of these videos are MONO.

Quite frankly, it's pathetic and appalling to see such amateurism on a site you have to PAY for. Moreover, it's gonna be hell to "discover" when there are new videos or photos, and impossible to navigate there fast. This whole 3D-globe interface is an utter disaster, and completely lacks consideration for the user. I bet most fans would be 100% happy to see a list of videos which included a date when it is uploaded, and a "NEW!" tag for videos that you haven't looked at previously.

Downloads:

Lotusflow3r/LotusFlow3r.zip
Lotusflow3r/LOtUSFLOW3R_wav.zip

Mplsound/Mplsound.zip
Mplsound/MPLSoUND_wav.zip (STILL CORRUPT! ONLY 146 MB!)

Elixer/Elixer.zip
Elixer/Elixer_wav.zip

BTW Don't ask me for instructions on how to download any of these. If you figure out ONE of the above items (hint: use Firefox + FlashGot -- Google is your friend), you have all the info you need.

I'll update this post if I find more.

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[Edited 3/25/09 21:10pm]
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Reply #5 posted 03/25/09 11:56am

asideorderofha
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Haven't seen this posted anywhere else yet. The Somewhere here on Earth video is fine until 2 minutes in (one line into verse 2), then it suddenly changes to Te Amo Corazon.

Not 100% on this one, but I think the end is missing off the Super Bowl vid (most of Purple Rain). It's possible my connection just died.
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Reply #6 posted 03/27/09 9:53am

KeithyT

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has this been made part of the main review thread yet cos it's a pretty valuable resource for the nerdy among us geek biggrin
[Edited 3/27/09 9:53am]
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #7 posted 03/28/09 3:47am

udo

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BartVanHemelen said:


Mplsound/MPLSoUND_wav.zip (STILL CORRUPT! ONLY 146 MB!)

How is that possible when I got a complete file?
I am not saying they are messing up but what is happening there?!
The previous incomplete file was 196 megs or so?
Did they ever learn about md5sum etc?
scp? wget -c?
Make it a git repo for Prince's sake!
`git pull`. As easy as...
Do we really need to spell out things like this?
Scott? Can you please orgnote me if you don't post here?
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #8 posted 03/30/09 4:53am

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Is the "I Would Die 4 U" live clip the same as on the Purple Rain special edition DVD release? Can anyone confirm?

also I take it Creep/Shhh/7/Come Together are all from Coachella?
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #9 posted 03/30/09 4:59am

netzverwalter

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KeithyT said:

Is the "I Would Die 4 U" live clip the same as on the Purple Rain special edition DVD release? Can anyone confirm?

also I take it Creep/Shhh/7/Come Together are all from Coachella?


"I would die 4 you" is live from Syracuse / Purple Rain Tour
the rest is form Coachella

greets
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Reply #10 posted 03/30/09 6:17am

japanrocks

i had issues with the videos at first but now they are great

there is also a feeling i get that we are in for a lot more treats this year

so for now, that is the only reason i joined
[Edited 3/30/09 6:18am]
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Reply #11 posted 03/30/09 7:31am

veronikka

japanrocks said:

i had issues with the videos at first but now they are great

there is also a feeling i get that we are in for a lot more treats this year
so for now, that is the only reason i joined



I hope so! biggrin
Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul
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Reply #12 posted 03/30/09 7:49am

Se7en

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• Prince - LotusFlow3r w/The Morning After download (WAV)
• Prince - MPLSound
• Bria Valente - Elixer
• Watched all the videos available with no problems (Saturday March 28)... took a few hours to get through them
• XL T-shirt ordered

Not bad for the first week.
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Reply #13 posted 04/14/09 1:42pm

KeithyT

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In the absemce of Tangerine7's info, I thought this was worth a bump.

Doozer? Are you willing to keep your first post updated/edited if we chip in and provide info on updates?
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #14 posted 04/14/09 2:28pm

Doozer

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KeithyT said:

In the absemce of Tangerine7's info, I thought this was worth a bump.

Doozer? Are you willing to keep your first post updated/edited if we chip in and provide info on updates?


Would be glad to - Tangerine7's was a great post as well and I didn't want to duplicate work, and that other post was getting more views.
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Reply #15 posted 04/14/09 3:19pm

Doozer

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Doozer said:

KeithyT said:

In the absemce of Tangerine7's info, I thought this was worth a bump.

Doozer? Are you willing to keep your first post updated/edited if we chip in and provide info on updates?


Would be glad to - Tangerine7's was a great post as well and I didn't want to duplicate work, and that other post was getting more views.


Actually, Tangerine7's post is a sticky in this forum - seems like it's more up to date, so maybe we should "stick" with it.

http://prince.org/msg/13/303871
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Reply #16 posted 04/16/09 12:13am

KeithyT

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Doozer said:[quote]

Doozer said:



Actually, Tangerine7's post is a sticky in this forum - seems like it's more up to date, so maybe we should "stick" with it.

http://prince.org/msg/13/303871

Yeah sorry Doozer. As you may have noticed T7 got a bit p'd off with certain unconstructive comments on that thread and has edited the first post so it is blank. Your thread is the closest we've got without completely starting again.
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #17 posted 04/16/09 1:34am

TheEnglishGent

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Yep, please don't take your ball and go home crying. We need you Doozer. biggrin
RIP sad
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Reply #18 posted 04/16/09 8:44pm

Doozer

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TheEnglishGent said:

Yep, please don't take your ball and go home crying. We need you Doozer. biggrin



Ha -- no crying here. I'll update this thread with new info, with members' help. Orgnote me updates you see or post them here and I'll edit the top of the thread. I'm not one to check the official site hourly or anything, especially after compiling that first list. smile. That video ball makes me crosseyed.
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Reply #19 posted 04/20/09 11:38am

daddypop

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Doozer said:

Here's my quick summation of what's available on lotusflow3r.com for those still pondering joining. Feel free to add to the list - maybe this can become a sticky for site content if the mods feel it's appropriate to show what membership on the site gets you as of now:

1. The three albums - available as 320 kbps mp3 files or as lossless wav files for immediate download.

Albums are about 100 mb each as mp3 downloads, about 450-470 mb each as wav files. I've not been able to get the wav files for MPLSound yet - it's an incomplete download (stops at around 190 mb for me). Seems like others have gotten it, though.

2. You can reserve tickets for the shows this month, although many (if not all) seem to be sold out now.

3. Each of the three albums also has lyrics (embedded in Flash, so no copying and pasting of them for safekeeping - you'll have to take screenshots or re-key them), and additional photography/art that's associated with each album (4-6 images for each album, i.e. something that might appear on the inside of the CD booklet if you were to get one). Surprisingly, the artwork itself for each album is quite small and is NOT included when you download the albums. You'll have to get a screenshot or swipe it off the internet if you want to pair the artwork with your digital music files.

4. There's a paragraph of credits for each of the three albums.

5. There's a large "crystal ball" in the Lotus Flow3r section that spins around with numerous photos of Prince (most are from the 21 Nights book). There are also videos available for streaming, not downloading. Note that many of the videos are linked to twice in the "crystal ball," so right now it looks like there's a lot more there than there actually is. One would assume this would be updated/swapped out over time on the site:

Alphabet St. (music video)
Sign O the Times (music video)
Te Amo Corazon (music video)
Diamonds and Pearls (music video)
Controversy (music video)
The Britt Awards performance
Controversy (music video)
I Wanna Be Your Lover (music video)
I Would Die For You (sic) (music video, live show)
Little Red Corvette (music video)
Guitar (Jay Leno performance which never aired)
1999 (Jay Leno performance which never aired)
Super Bowl performance
The Sacrifice of Victor film (43:41), Japanese subtitles
The Britt Awards performance
Creep (live)
Shh (live)
Somewhere Here (sic) (music video)
7/Come Together live
The 1 U Wanna C (music video)
Turn Me Loose (Jay Leno performance, aired version)

I wouldn't say that all the hype about the quality of the video was accurate - some are indeed in HD/widescreen, but most that were originally shot in 4:3 resolution have been stretched to widescreen, which makes the SD video look worse than it should. I've yet to view any video on the site without running into hiccups/choppiness.

6. There's a "sneak preview" of two videos (not much longer than what was shown on the site earlier, only larger resolution now): "Crimson and Clover" and "Chocolate Box," both do look well done. The full video for Bria's "Everytime" is available as well. All streaming, no downloading.

7. You get a t-shirt as a "founder," although it costs extra shipping if you're out of the states.

Additions?


there is a way to download the videos.
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Reply #20 posted 04/20/09 6:58pm

TyphoonTip

daddypop said:

Doozer said:

Here's my quick summation of what's available on lotusflow3r.com for those still pondering joining. Feel free to add to the list - maybe this can become a sticky for site content if the mods feel it's appropriate to show what membership on the site gets you as of now:

1. The three albums - available as 320 kbps mp3 files or as lossless wav files for immediate download.

Albums are about 100 mb each as mp3 downloads, about 450-470 mb each as wav files. I've not been able to get the wav files for MPLSound yet - it's an incomplete download (stops at around 190 mb for me). Seems like others have gotten it, though.

2. You can reserve tickets for the shows this month, although many (if not all) seem to be sold out now.

3. Each of the three albums also has lyrics (embedded in Flash, so no copying and pasting of them for safekeeping - you'll have to take screenshots or re-key them), and additional photography/art that's associated with each album (4-6 images for each album, i.e. something that might appear on the inside of the CD booklet if you were to get one). Surprisingly, the artwork itself for each album is quite small and is NOT included when you download the albums. You'll have to get a screenshot or swipe it off the internet if you want to pair the artwork with your digital music files.

4. There's a paragraph of credits for each of the three albums.

5. There's a large "crystal ball" in the Lotus Flow3r section that spins around with numerous photos of Prince (most are from the 21 Nights book). There are also videos available for streaming, not downloading. Note that many of the videos are linked to twice in the "crystal ball," so right now it looks like there's a lot more there than there actually is. One would assume this would be updated/swapped out over time on the site:

Alphabet St. (music video)
Sign O the Times (music video)
Te Amo Corazon (music video)
Diamonds and Pearls (music video)
Controversy (music video)
The Britt Awards performance
Controversy (music video)
I Wanna Be Your Lover (music video)
I Would Die For You (sic) (music video, live show)
Little Red Corvette (music video)
Guitar (Jay Leno performance which never aired)
1999 (Jay Leno performance which never aired)
Super Bowl performance
The Sacrifice of Victor film (43:41), Japanese subtitles
The Britt Awards performance
Creep (live)
Shh (live)
Somewhere Here (sic) (music video)
7/Come Together live
The 1 U Wanna C (music video)
Turn Me Loose (Jay Leno performance, aired version)

I wouldn't say that all the hype about the quality of the video was accurate - some are indeed in HD/widescreen, but most that were originally shot in 4:3 resolution have been stretched to widescreen, which makes the SD video look worse than it should. I've yet to view any video on the site without running into hiccups/choppiness.

6. There's a "sneak preview" of two videos (not much longer than what was shown on the site earlier, only larger resolution now): "Crimson and Clover" and "Chocolate Box," both do look well done. The full video for Bria's "Everytime" is available as well. All streaming, no downloading.

7. You get a t-shirt as a "founder," although it costs extra shipping if you're out of the states.

Additions?


there is a way to download the videos.


There are also ways to see/dl ALL that stuff elsewhere.

Now I officially don't have a single shred of regret that I didn't join.biggrin

I'm genuinely shocked @ what little you get for $77US eek
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Reply #21 posted 04/24/09 9:54pm

tangerine7

KeithyT said:[quote]

Doozer said:

Doozer said:



Actually, Tangerine7's post is a sticky in this forum - seems like it's more up to date, so maybe we should "stick" with it.

http://prince.org/msg/13/303871

Yeah sorry Doozer. As you may have noticed T7 got a bit p'd off with certain unconstructive comments on that thread and has edited the first post so it is blank. Your thread is the closest we've got without completely starting again.

sry. guys i tried to recover my thread and it is lost. i posted a older rough draft.
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Reply #22 posted 05/06/09 7:55am

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BartVanHemelen said:[quote]

Doozer said:

There are also videos available for streaming, not downloading.

[...]



BTW Don't ask me for instructions on how to download any of these. If you figure out ONE of the above items (hint: use Firefox + FlashGot -- Google is your friend), you have all the info you need.

I'll update this post if I find more.

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[Edited 3/25/09 21:10pm]



That's good shit!
Many thanks!

Prost!
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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #23 posted 05/10/09 3:39am

niqi

Doozer said:

There are also videos available for streaming, not downloading.

[...]



BTW Don't ask me for instructions on how to download any of these. If you figure out ONE of the above items (hint: use Firefox + FlashGot -- Google is your friend), you have all the info you need.


I use Firefox with the DownloadHelper plugin, it works fine. smile
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Reply #24 posted 05/16/09 2:50am

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Nobody mentioned the new video file that has been added there - a 10:03-min version of DMSR, recorded live in Detroit 2004 with Maceo & Candy.

Pretty cool.


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