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Reply #30 posted 04/04/09 12:18am

utopia7

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PEJ said:

utopia7 said:

gather an army of disgruntled fans/fams (whatever) and sue him. Call Londell
McMillan. That's if he still represents him as an entertainment lawyer.Or call the local news to hear your cries and concerns.


get a petition going ...I think this might fall on deaf ears. neutral



I think the NPGMC site has more than enough grounds to say that some,not all violated the terms and or rules of that site. I say what the Prince camp/moderators were guilty of is the way the site was closed down.

I will speak for my self to say I received MORE than I thought the NPGMC would bring,merchandise-music-videos-celebrations headbang-Forums MEMBER CONNECTION 4 LIFE! lol CHAT-(where is Nesci_) pre-sales- front row tickets- MTV-special paying .25 cents for a concert and a party !(met Patti La belle) and the most priceless is the friends made 7 years later. And firstly Prince.Org being the primary integral part of this Prince experience. The internet trinity was/is Prince.Org-House Quake-NPGMC.

shout out to the NPGUNDERGROUND too.










read what I wrote above



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Reply #31 posted 04/04/09 1:48am

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veronikka said:

2elijah said:

According to what many have posted about the fees from the previous, non-existing club, the membership fee for that was for the "lifetime" of that particular club. So that's basically what you paid for. The lotus site is a brand new site, altogether.



Is it really that hard to understand? confused



What about the tracks we paid for. Would u like it if HMV came and took back the cds you bought??

There is a middle ground here. The NPGMC was not closed down correctly. And even if you love P to bits, that is indisputable. Fingers got burnt, yet we are still going back for more. So back off on folks who still have the right to complain, surely the fact that many (inc me) have signed up again means we have given him another chance. But you know the saying, once bitten, twice shy. Lets hope he doesn't F*** this one up. He wont get another chance.

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Reply #32 posted 04/04/09 2:18am

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bingo! the prince fans paying $77 for a $12 3 CD pack and after the previous prince-tax (aka clubs) are amongst the more naive fools in general fandom smile
And this harms you how?

I joined not knowing what I would get 7 years ago and if I get nothing more than kickass seats at a nearby show, then the 77 dollars is worth it to me. People spending money on what makes them happy are not fools.

And for all we know, the biggest bitchers joined anyway.


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Reply #33 posted 04/04/09 3:54pm

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bsk3601 said:

Vendetta1 said:

And this harms you how?

I joined not knowing what I would get 7 years ago and if I get nothing more than kickass seats at a nearby show, then the 77 dollars is worth it to me. People spending money on what makes them happy are not fools.

And for all we know, the biggest bitchers joined anyway.


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Reply #34 posted 04/06/09 4:12pm

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Rorywan said:

veronikka said:




Is it really that hard to understand? confused



What about the tracks we paid for. Would u like it if HMV came and took back the cds you bought??

There is a middle ground here. The NPGMC was not closed down correctly. And even if you love P to bits, that is indisputable. Fingers got burnt, yet we are still going back for more. So back off on folks who still have the right to complain, surely the fact that many (inc me) have signed up again means we have given him another chance. But you know the saying, once bitten, twice shy. Lets hope he doesn't F*** this one up. He wont get another chance.

lol



I wasn't a member that long on that site, never bought any of the music just a couple of videos if I remember correctly. But were you not allowed to save what you bought?
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Reply #35 posted 04/07/09 2:02am

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Rorywan said:




What about the tracks we paid for. Would u like it if HMV came and took back the cds you bought??

There is a middle ground here. The NPGMC was not closed down correctly. And even if you love P to bits, that is indisputable. Fingers got burnt, yet we are still going back for more. So back off on folks who still have the right to complain, surely the fact that many (inc me) have signed up again means we have given him another chance. But you know the saying, once bitten, twice shy. Lets hope he doesn't F*** this one up. He wont get another chance.

lol



I wasn't a member that long on that site, never bought any of the music just a couple of videos if I remember correctly. But were you not allowed to save what you bought?




I was on a mac at the time (as were many others, so we could not burn cds without a lot of hassle) We had them saved on the desktop obviously. But the licenses disappeared when the club shut down. So the files were unusable. ah well.. downloaded them from a boot since then, but its still wrong. In some inverted way Prince seems to promote boots and torrents..

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Reply #36 posted 04/07/09 11:21pm

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utopia7 said:

PEJ said:











read what I wrote above



see! we were right here -----><----- you and I wink




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Reply #37 posted 04/07/09 11:32pm

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you so right! sir..

i am feeling like being a fool again..
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Reply #38 posted 04/08/09 12:06am

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Prince opened a site to sell his music and show video, sell tickets. He sold a lifetime membership. After a while he closed the site with no refound or explanation.
After some times, Prince opened a site to sell his music and show video, sell tickets. Another name. New price. Another fee to pay.

Prince is a quite good producer of himself, a nice pop musician, but the way he handles the people that listen his music is bad.
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Reply #39 posted 04/08/09 5:35am

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Prince is a quite good producer of himself, a nice pop musician, but the way he handles the people that listen his music is bad.


actually no, he handles them perfectly, from his point of view, which is to maximise his own $$$ income. Other considerations such as your expectations are irrelevant, you only exist to give him $$$.
Probably some kind of battered wife syndrom for prince fans, you know you won't get your money's worth but you give it to him anyway smile
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Reply #40 posted 04/08/09 3:57pm

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fabriziovenerandi said:

Prince opened a site to sell his music and show video, sell tickets. He sold a lifetime membership. After a while he closed the site with no refound or explanation.
After some times, Prince opened a site to sell his music and show video, sell tickets. Another name. New price. Another fee to pay.

Prince is a quite good producer of himself, a nice pop musician, but the way he handles the people that listen his music is bad.
The last year of the club was FREE so y'all can stop with the lifetime membership bullshit.

Damn, I thought I held on to shit forever. disbelief
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Reply #41 posted 04/09/09 6:23am

Spank86

I'm confused, Half the people on here keep going on about "lifetime memberships" the other half talk about paying per year and getting years free etc.

Which was it?
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Reply #42 posted 04/09/09 4:01pm

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Spank86 said:

I'm confused, Half the people on here keep going on about "lifetime memberships" the other half talk about paying per year and getting years free etc.

Which was it?


Lifetime membership, not sure what the "last year free" is about.
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Reply #43 posted 04/10/09 1:03am

fabriziovenera
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The last year of the club was FREE so y'all can stop with the lifetime membership bullshit.



Are you talking about the black screen site? ah ah
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Reply #44 posted 04/10/09 7:10am

Vendetta1

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I'm confused, Half the people on here keep going on about "lifetime memberships" the other half talk about paying per year and getting years free etc.

Which was it?
the next to the last year of the club, the price went to 25 dollars. Once it was time to renew, those that had paid their 25 bucks did not have to pay again and received a "lifetime membership".

Seems like many people didn't appreciate that and seem to have selctive amnesia when it comes to Prince. He changes his mind like the wind and they get mad at him for it.
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Reply #45 posted 04/10/09 7:47am

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Vendetta1 said:

Spank86 said:

I'm confused, Half the people on here keep going on about "lifetime memberships" the other half talk about paying per year and getting years free etc.

Which was it?
the next to the last year of the club, the price went to 25 dollars. Once it was time to renew, those that had paid their 25 bucks did not have to pay again and received a "lifetime membership".

Seems like many people didn't appreciate that and seem to have selctive amnesia when it comes to Prince. He changes his mind like the wind and they get mad at him for it.



Sorry Vendetta that really does not make sense. prince brought the 25$ lifetime membership rule in to get more people to join, obviously he couldn't recharge existing members. So everyone including those who already signed up were promised "lifetime" memberships. It was that unfortunate promise, that people have the problem with, he did not deliver.

And i'm no hater, I didn't really care much for the NPGMC anyway, but removing the DMR license for folk who had bought tracks was just wrong. We bought music, we own that copy. very bad practice for an artist trying to stop illegal downloads of his music. IMHO!
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Reply #46 posted 04/10/09 3:48pm

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i have yet to see a cd sale, t-shirt offer or a membership that price offered to be worth the money spent. npgmc was a joke and the new site will be also. how many of you paid for a lifetime membership for stuff you can easily get at probably no cost right now? how many of you paid extra money for crystal ball and are still waiting for crystal ball 2?
$77 for something that WILL be available elsewhere soon enough is a waste. prince can try to police the entire internet, but it's impossible when technology gets smarter.
i still remember being happy as shit for paying $20 in the 80's to be in the New Breed fan club just because i got a poster, a card, a photo, a tour book and some pins in the mail! $77 these days gets you NOTHING!
i don't know how many times you ppl have to be ripped before you see the pattern.
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Reply #47 posted 04/10/09 4:53pm

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sloopydrew4u said:

veronikka said:




Is it really that hard to understand? confused


No. It's easy to understand. Prince ripped his fans off and other fans are willing to jump in and thank him for doing so. When you hear "lifetime membership" or "lifetime subscription" or "lifetime warranty" you don't think it's for the lifetime of the club, the magazine or the item under warranty. You wouldn't buy a toaster with a "lifetime warranty" and throw it out if it broke a week later, because that was the end of the toaster's life.

No other performer charges fans $100 for a year. Then another $25 for a "lifetime" membership. Then asks them AGAIN, for another $77. This is ridiculous. Prince fans defending this practice must be extremely wealthy or extremely naive.


Yeah...bad example. If you get a "lifetime warranty" on a product, it's for the lifetime of the product (usually a set length of time) - not your lifetime.

Anyone who would expect a toaster to last the rest of their life is an idiot.
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Reply #48 posted 04/10/09 7:30pm

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Genesia said:

sloopydrew4u said:



No. It's easy to understand. Prince ripped his fans off and other fans are willing to jump in and thank him for doing so. When you hear "lifetime membership" or "lifetime subscription" or "lifetime warranty" you don't think it's for the lifetime of the club, the magazine or the item under warranty. You wouldn't buy a toaster with a "lifetime warranty" and throw it out if it broke a week later, because that was the end of the toaster's life.

No other performer charges fans $100 for a year. Then another $25 for a "lifetime" membership. Then asks them AGAIN, for another $77. This is ridiculous. Prince fans defending this practice must be extremely wealthy or extremely naive.


Yeah...bad example. If you get a "lifetime warranty" on a product, it's for the lifetime of the product (usually a set length of time) - not your lifetime.

Anyone who would expect a toaster to last the rest of their life is an idiot.
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Reply #49 posted 04/11/09 3:27pm

Erika2k8

i love prince BUT ID BE DAMNED IF I HAVE TO PAY £54 to show my love
for Lords sake I understand he gotta get payed somehow but 54 pounds...naa
im not saying i wont pay in the future but right now! vids are songs are getting leaked like crazy
and plus im already going to buy his album when it comes out over here
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Reply #50 posted 04/12/09 2:41am

Spank86

Rorywan said:

Vendetta1 said:

the next to the last year of the club, the price went to 25 dollars. Once it was time to renew, those that had paid their 25 bucks did not have to pay again and received a "lifetime membership".

Seems like many people didn't appreciate that and seem to have selctive amnesia when it comes to Prince. He changes his mind like the wind and they get mad at him for it.



Sorry Vendetta that really does not make sense. prince brought the 25$ lifetime membership rule in to get more people to join, obviously he couldn't recharge existing members. So everyone including those who already signed up were promised "lifetime" memberships. It was that unfortunate promise, that people have the problem with, he did not deliver.

And i'm no hater, I didn't really care much for the NPGMC anyway, but removing the DMR license for folk who had bought tracks was just wrong. We bought music, we own that copy. very bad practice for an artist trying to stop illegal downloads of his music. IMHO!


Well it sounds like some people were a bit gullible believing that a club that charged $100 for one year would then want $25 for it to last the rest of their lives.
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Reply #51 posted 04/12/09 4:30am

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Rorywan said:




Sorry Vendetta that really does not make sense. prince brought the 25$ lifetime membership rule in to get more people to join, obviously he couldn't recharge existing members. So everyone including those who already signed up were promised "lifetime" memberships. It was that unfortunate promise, that people have the problem with, he did not deliver.

And i'm no hater, I didn't really care much for the NPGMC anyway, but removing the DMR license for folk who had bought tracks was just wrong. We bought music, we own that copy. very bad practice for an artist trying to stop illegal downloads of his music. IMHO!


Well it sounds like some people were a bit gullible believing that a club that charged $100 for one year would then want $25 for it to last the rest of their lives.



Never believed it for a second. Not really the point tho? Is it?
To be honest I couldn't care less about the NPGMC, the audio that we paid for however, i think is just wrong.
Ho, hum.. As i've mentioned before, I have got it all again now anyway, but thru unofficial means. Not good policy is it to encourage fans to download/buy boots?
Cause I will be damned if I have to buy the same material twice from Mr Nelson.

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Reply #52 posted 04/12/09 4:59am

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lol that gif keeps cracking me up
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Reply #53 posted 04/12/09 5:45am

Spank86

Rorywan said:

Spank86 said:



Well it sounds like some people were a bit gullible believing that a club that charged $100 for one year would then want $25 for it to last the rest of their lives.



Never believed it for a second. Not really the point tho? Is it?
To be honest I couldn't care less about the NPGMC, the audio that we paid for however, i think is just wrong.
Ho, hum.. As i've mentioned before, I have got it all again now anyway, but thru unofficial means. Not good policy is it to encourage fans to download/buy boots?
Cause I will be damned if I have to buy the same material twice from Mr Nelson.

wink


I just wish I'd been able to get it the first time!

Trawling for torrents etc is just an arse.

Hopefully He'll offer all his old stuff on Lotusflow3r, I mean for a guy that everybody thinks is just after dough he's not very good at the easy stuff is he?
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Reply #54 posted 04/12/09 6:05am

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Spank86 said:

Rorywan said:




Never believed it for a second. Not really the point tho? Is it?
To be honest I couldn't care less about the NPGMC, the audio that we paid for however, i think is just wrong.
Ho, hum.. As i've mentioned before, I have got it all again now anyway, but thru unofficial means. Not good policy is it to encourage fans to download/buy boots?
Cause I will be damned if I have to buy the same material twice from Mr Nelson.

wink


I just wish I'd been able to get it the first time!

Trawling for torrents etc is just an arse.

Hopefully He'll offer all his old stuff on Lotusflow3r, I mean for a guy that everybody thinks is just after dough he's not very good at the easy stuff is he?


I don't like buying the same material twice, but if I have to I will.

Hell, every album from For You-thru-prince I bought on cassette, vinyl, and then eventually CD! After that, it was pretty much CD all the way.
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Reply #55 posted 04/12/09 7:30am

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Se7en said:

Spank86 said:



I just wish I'd been able to get it the first time!

Trawling for torrents etc is just an arse.

Hopefully He'll offer all his old stuff on Lotusflow3r, I mean for a guy that everybody thinks is just after dough he's not very good at the easy stuff is he?


I don't like buying the same material twice, but if I have to I will.

Hell, every album from For You-thru-prince I bought on cassette, vinyl, and then eventually CD! After that, it was pretty much CD all the way.


Go on Prince stick a tacky hologram on the cover, I will buy it again!


Yeah me too, never really mind buying stuff repeatedly on a physical format. Or for a change in audio quality, but I will never pay twice for the same mp3s.


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Reply #56 posted 04/12/09 8:00am

Spank86

Rorywan said:

Se7en said:



I don't like buying the same material twice, but if I have to I will.

Hell, every album from For You-thru-prince I bought on cassette, vinyl, and then eventually CD! After that, it was pretty much CD all the way.


Go on Prince stick a tacky hologram on the cover, I will buy it again!


Yeah me too, never really mind buying stuff repeatedly on a physical format. Or for a change in audio quality, but I will never pay twice for the same mp3s.


biggrin


He's been there, done that.

Maybe a purple fluffy cover?
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Reply #57 posted 04/14/09 7:31pm

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i do so love this thread ! I AM NOT DEAD ....
Colonel Angus may be smelly. colonel angus may be a little rough . but deep down ... Colonel angus is very sweet.
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