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Thread started 03/30/09 1:46am

computergold

White Flags On Winter Chimneys or Lotus Flow3r!

These two albums including mplsound are my favourite albums of the year so far. Today i was listening to White Flags On Winter Chimneys and i was thinking wouldnt that make a great debate on prince.org . Who would win Prince or Wendy & Lisa? Both albums are amazing and i wish these two albums got much more publicity than they are recieving as they are too albums that are far superior to anything else out there now.

I personally couldnt say which one i like better as i like them equally but what would you guys and ladies say?
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Reply #1 posted 03/30/09 3:32am

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Reply #2 posted 03/30/09 4:29am

AsylumUtopia

mzkqueen03 said:

...LOTUSFLOW3R collection..4 the fact that i have only heard those songs..now the other one i haven't heard..so is my vote fair..well yes since i only heard 1 of the 2..
..mzsexybaby sexy

Now, that's quite good. Your justification for calling your vote fair is that you've only heard one of them?

Well, that kind of takes the wind out of my sails, because that's exactly the argument I was going to use to show that your vote is not fair, invalid, counts for nothing, and won't do until you've heard both albums.

But then what do I know.

I guess that's one vote for Lotus Flow$r then smile
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Reply #3 posted 03/30/09 4:34am

McD

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It's David and Goliath, this one, I'm afraid.

Even knocking Prince's 3 CD set into a 9 track Best-Of, White Flags still gives Lotus Flow3r an almighty smackdown.

Sad but true.
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Reply #4 posted 03/30/09 9:33am

mushmackalenta

Lotus Flow3r.

White Flags is nice but I think I would take Elixer over it.
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Reply #5 posted 03/30/09 2:27pm

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I wish Prince would take a leaf out of the Wendy and Lisa book.

Simple web site and one purchase of the album includes both the download, then the CD arrives in the post.
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Reply #6 posted 03/30/09 2:44pm

Rico

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SquirrelMeat said:

I wish Prince would take a leaf out of the Wendy and Lisa book.

Simple web site and one purchase of the album includes both the download, then the CD arrives in the post.


Great point! This morning I received a signed CD and a copy of the album on coloured vinyl for $39.99 (included an immediate download of the album in MP3). Great service and no hassle. Plus didn't have to hunt around to find the sign up or purchase pages!

Hey, Prince, I know, have a word with Wendy and Lisa's site designers wink.
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Reply #7 posted 03/30/09 6:41pm

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mzkqueen03 said:

...LOTUSFLOW3R collection..4 the fact that i have only heard those songs..now the other one i haven't heard..so is my vote fair..well yes since i only heard 1 of the 2..
..mzsexybaby sexy


Sheer nonesense.
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Reply #8 posted 03/30/09 6:46pm

EverlastingNow

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In this case Lotusflow3r would be raising the white flag biggrin

I will say though that the lotusflow3r cd's have some GREAT songs!!

White Flags of Winter Chimneys is a musical masterpiece.
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Reply #9 posted 03/30/09 8:29pm

Sdldawn

White flags..


The lotus Flower stuff isn't bad, I just think in terms of quality.. White Flags is higher on the pole...
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Reply #10 posted 03/30/09 9:31pm

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After reading this thread, I finally went over 2 wendyandlisa.com and bought the deluxe vinyl package. I got the album download on my computer within 15 minutes of purchase and I'm now enjoying it. The download even comes with album artwork, exclusive photos, and bonus trax. I can't wait 2 receive my coloured vinyl 12" as well as autographed CD. Everything delivered 2 my door 4 $49.99. Long live Wendy and Lisa! "Is the water warm enough? Yes, Lisa. Shall we begin? Yes, Lisa"!

I'm still listening 2 LotusFlow3r, MPLSound, and Elixer every day... so much 2 discover on them.

Buy both!
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Reply #11 posted 03/30/09 9:33pm

errant

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oh come on. rolleyes


okay, i'll bite.


I think White Flags is a much better album. It's a beautiful piece of popular music as art.

But LF/MPLS is fun and probably give me more joy. I'm very happy with both.
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Reply #12 posted 04/15/09 12:51pm

Copycat

White Flags is a magnificent collection and once again W & L have demonstrated that they write better songs than Prince.
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Reply #13 posted 04/15/09 5:59pm

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I love White Flags, but Lotus gets the nod.
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Reply #14 posted 04/15/09 8:18pm

NuPwrSoul

I'm not that big a fan of the "White Flags" style of music... it's a little too "lay in a bathtub full of water while I slit my wrist" for me, so I give the music nod to the Lotusflow3r set.

As far as WEBSITES go however, Wendy & Lisa's site pounces and poops all over Prince's. The options for purchasing the music, the blog, the twitter updates, the forums... I don't care for the music, but I've visited their site more times a day/week than I do Lotusflow3r.com.
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #15 posted 04/16/09 8:48am

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White Flags by a mile. Better album and better website. I like Lotus the album, MPLSound is ok, Elixer is ok too. Prince's website blows, esp compared to Wendy & Lisa's.
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Reply #16 posted 04/16/09 8:50am

Romeoblu

Copycat said:

White Flags is a magnificent collection and once again W & L have demonstrated that they write better songs than Prince.


Come off it.

The album is ok and better than the last couple of snooze fests they've delivered but I think they would themselves wouldn't claim to have a catalogue that even comes close to Prince's.

Please remember Prince is considered one of the greatest song writers of all time.
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Reply #17 posted 04/16/09 9:59am

Copycat

No, you come off it, and while you're at it, buy an extra copy of "White Flags".
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Reply #18 posted 04/16/09 12:10pm

Romeoblu

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No, you come off it, and while you're at it, buy an extra copy of "White Flags".




Do really believe they are better songwriters?

Name some of their songs you consider better than

Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad
Controversy
7779311
Little Red Corvette
Lady Cab Driver
The Beautiful Ones
When Doves Cry
Raspberry Beret
Condition Of The Heart
Witness 4 The Prosecution
Sign O The Times
Play In The Sunshine
Housequake
Adore
bob Geogre
Suoerfunky
Alphabet St
lovesexy
Positivity
The Future
Electric Chair
The question Of U
Joy in Rep
Diamonds And Pearls
Gett Off

I could go on and on and on.

I thought their first album was on the whole pretty dull, I liked Sideshow, The Life and Waterfall.

Fruit at the bottom was a much better album I really liked that and then Eroica I can hardly remember other than thinking it was shit.

girls brothers again had a couple of decent songs but was otherwise dull.

White Flags is their best since Fruit At The Bottom but I'd take any of Prince's recent albums over it.
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Reply #19 posted 04/16/09 1:32pm

mushmackalenta

Copycat said:

White Flags is a magnificent collection and once again W & L have demonstrated that they write better songs than Prince.


I think you and only a few other deluded fools would believe Wendy And Lisa were better song writers than Prince.

They may have some songs that are better than some in Prince's catalogue but look at the whole picture.

I think Prince has proved himself and is widely regarded as one of the greatest song writers ever.

To get back on topic, LotusFlow3r is the album I'd pick out of the two but they are both good albums, is just that White Flags is good while Lotusflow3r is amazing, on a different level completely.
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Reply #20 posted 04/16/09 5:29pm

Copycat

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Reply #21 posted 04/16/09 5:30pm

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mushmackalenta said:

Copycat said:

White Flags is a magnificent collection and once again W & L have demonstrated that they write better songs than Prince.


I think you and only a few other deluded fools would believe Wendy And Lisa were better song writers than Prince.

They may have some songs that are better than some in Prince's catalogue but look at the whole picture.

I think Prince has proved himself and is widely regarded as one of the greatest song writers ever.

To get back on topic, LotusFlow3r is the album I'd pick out of the two but they are both good albums, is just that White Flags is good while Lotusflow3r is amazing, on a different level completely.


Not discrediting Prince at all here...I really like Lotusflower and if you go by his CATALOG, then yes, Prince is the clear "winner" (whatever the hell that means). But where I disagree with you is the fact White Flags is the one that is AMAzing compared to Lotus which is good. Also Prince should've contacted W&L on how to design a great and FUNCTIONAL website.
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Reply #22 posted 04/17/09 9:06am

mushmackalenta

Poplife88 said:

mushmackalenta said:



I think you and only a few other deluded fools would believe Wendy And Lisa were better song writers than Prince.

They may have some songs that are better than some in Prince's catalogue but look at the whole picture.

I think Prince has proved himself and is widely regarded as one of the greatest song writers ever.

To get back on topic, LotusFlow3r is the album I'd pick out of the two but they are both good albums, is just that White Flags is good while Lotusflow3r is amazing, on a different level completely.


Not discrediting Prince at all here...I really like Lotusflower and if you go by his CATALOG, then yes, Prince is the clear "winner" (whatever the hell that means). But where I disagree with you is the fact White Flags is the one that is AMAzing compared to Lotus which is good. Also Prince should've contacted W&L on how to design a great and FUNCTIONAL website.


People are always going to disagree and there is no right or wrong, I'm glad i have both albums.


To be honest I was a little disapointed with White Flags, I found it just too pedestrian for my tastes, there was nothing funky or any classic pop songs.

I would have liked something along the lines of The 1 U wanna see or Mountains on there, maybe if the album had more flavour, a few jazz flourishes it could have been great.
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Reply #23 posted 04/18/09 8:00am

computergold

'White Flags On Winter Chimneys' isn't supposed to be fun or funky. You can instantly identify that by the title. The album is an emotional charged, well created and has an breathtaking sound. This is my first Wendy and Lisa album and i was blown away when i first heard this. It's so atmospheric and thats what i love about it. Anyone that says the album isnt very good is in my book really stupid and just obessive over Prince. I love Prince and his music, i love the Lotus Flow3r set, i havent stopped playing it for weeks. But you got to remember Prince is fun and funky, Wendy and Lisa are great musicians so dont expect that when you listen to White Flags because you wont get it.

I personally think its one of the greatest albums i've heard in a long time. No fillers, all amazing songs but i know it will be overshadowed by Lady Gaga and other computer garbage and will not get the credit it deserves. I love Lotus Flow3r and White Flags, but for me White Flags is a musicial masterpiece. But so is Lotusflow3r but not in the same way.

(PS) Let's start a petition for W&L to tour in London preferably at The 02!
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Reply #24 posted 04/18/09 2:49pm

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It took just 3 weeks 4 me 2 receive my deluxe White Flags package: autographed CD and beautiful coloured vinyl. I was already enjoying the digital version that came with it from the moment it was purchased. I don't think White Flags is as good as LotusFlow3r/MPLSound, but it's a very good album 2 own. My fave track is "Salt & Cherries (MC5)". I just read on their homepage that today they did a DJ set and meet-and-greet at Amoeba Records in L.A. (1 p.m. Pacific time).
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Reply #25 posted 04/19/09 7:40am

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I have White Flags but I rarely listen to it. Its nicely produced but their style of arrangement for their songs has never been a stand-out to me. If i want some background music on but don't want the music to distract me, then I sometimes will put it on.
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Change it one more time..
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