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Thread started 03/07/09 6:11am

Rorywan

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INTERNATIONAL FANS!! SPEAK UP!! WTF! NO RELEASE!?!

Just thought it would be good to give international fans a place to ask politely/scream loudly to get hard copy CDs released around the world, not just USA. As we all know Target/Amazon won't ship to your country.

Mp3 download good enough??

Not for me!


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Reply #1 posted 03/07/09 6:55am

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I'm very surprised that Amazon will not ship worldwide. This kind of marketing only leaves the doors open for illegal downloading as a fan's only course of action, taking money out of the artists pocket. If files uploaded are FLAC, then quality of downloads is a non-issue. Folks may not need a silver, in this circumstance.

Options for non-US customers to get physical copies may be eBay, trading, friend/fan connections, EIL, import record shops, or maybe LotusFlow3r.com.

As a resident of the US, and a Prince collector I know that oceans are a small hurdle to getting something that you want/need. I've bought many imports, and rarely have I had any issues in getting something from any part of this great big world.
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Reply #2 posted 03/07/09 7:56am

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squirrelgrease said:

I'm very surprised that Amazon will not ship worldwide. This kind of marketing only leaves the doors open for illegal downloading as a fan's only course of action, taking money out of the artists pocket. If files uploaded are FLAC, then quality of downloads is a non-issue. Folks may not need a silver, in this circumstance.

Options for non-US customers to get physical copies may be eBay, trading, friend/fan connections, EIL, import record shops, or maybe LotusFlow3r.com.

As a resident of the US, and a Prince collector I know that oceans are a small hurdle to getting something that you want/need. I've bought many imports, and rarely have I had any issues in getting something from any part of this great big world.



I know! me too!, I've ordered imports from everywhere. But I suppose the point is a lot of folks don't have the $ to go onto ebay etc. especially when the 3 cd release in the states is so good value. Amazon do normally ship worldwide, but not with this Target tie in business. I know I will get a physical copy from somewhere, but I want to preorder one now the same as all his USA fans. Not having to wait to find one online a few weeks later and end up spending 30$ for it.

I'm excited, new prince cd's coming out. oh no wait I can't buy them...
sad

Not really the cash, just a bit dissapointing I suppose.




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Reply #3 posted 03/07/09 8:14am

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I'm frustrated that we haven't heard an answer yet either, but I think everyone needs to relax a little. There's still 3 weeks until the album comes out: Plenty of time for more details to be revealed. Do you really think they just aren't going to be released elsewhere?

Look at the recent chain-exclusive releases by Springsteen, AC/DC, Guns N Roses, etc. Each of those are only being sold in one store in the US, but they're widely available elsewhere, right? There's no reason to think that won't be the case here. I think the reason we haven't been told is because it interferes with the story surrounding Target's big deal.

Just sit tight. I'm sure we'll all be heading to our local record stores on or around March 29 to pick this set up.
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Reply #4 posted 03/07/09 8:32am

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Rorywan said:

Not having to wait to find one online a few weeks later and end up spending 30$ for it.


Yeah, going on eBay or EIL, you risk getting gouged. mad
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Reply #5 posted 03/07/09 8:33am

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I'm calm, just saying. And I see from that target link, the lashback has begun. Read the so-called reviews from disgruntled fans.

Those chain-exclusive releases were released (at least where I live) by record labels. Not sure he is going to do that again..?

I'm sure he has something sorted for the rest of the world (I hope). It would be bad business of him not to, but he would want to get a move on. Obviously pre-sales will be not an option shortly. There won't be time.

It is frustrating though, isn't it?




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Reply #6 posted 03/08/09 4:51am

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When Ultimate Prince was (mistakenly) released early in Australia and nowhere else, I paid £100 for a copy on eBay - only for it to be sold as a budget release in the U.K. some months later.

I'm not paying over the odds again.

If it's commercially unavailable in the U.K. at the time of it's release, I will have no qualms in obtaining FLAC files for free.
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Reply #7 posted 03/08/09 6:42am

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The album will be available at some point. No need to worry.
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Reply #8 posted 03/08/09 10:40am

Sophianestesia

rwn said:

The album will be available at some point. No need to worry.


That's what I think. We always had chance to get the new Prince album, there's no reason not to have this one too.

And Prince knows this.
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Reply #9 posted 03/09/09 12:41am

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Maybe the CD set will b available in Boots(the chemists/drugstores) in the UK!!! There are Boots sections in Target stores in the USA, cos they have both formed a business partnership, so it could end up being sold over here in Boots!!!! lol lol lol lol lol lol

Look out for it the next time u have 2 go there for some shampoo, bath stuff, or get a prescription filled!!!!! lol lol lol lol
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Reply #10 posted 03/09/09 12:47am

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come on do you really think Prince won't make his new album available worldwide. Has he ever held back any music from other countries. lame
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Reply #11 posted 03/09/09 3:26am

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PEJ said:

come on do you really think Prince won't make his new album available worldwide. Has he ever held back any music from other countries. lame


Of course he will make it available at some stage. Who said he wouldn't?
The point is no one knows where and most importantly WHEN?

This is a prince fansite right? I think its lame to suggest or think that the world outside of the USA won't be pissed off when they can't buy the albums on the date of release.

Read all the other threads on the subject, quite a number of international orgers are feeling the frustration. we ALL know we can get it at some point.

If it was the other way around we would have all the USA Orgers bitching. Point is NO-ONE likes being excluded from an important release. And until P tells us otherwise, thats just whats happening.


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Reply #12 posted 03/09/09 3:32am

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Desire2006 said:

Maybe the CD set will b available in Boots(the chemists/drugstores) in the UK!!! There are Boots sections in Target stores in the USA, cos they have both formed a business partnership, so it could end up being sold over here in Boots!!!! lol lol lol lol lol lol

Look out for it the next time u have 2 go there for some shampoo, bath stuff, or get a prescription filled!!!!! lol lol lol lol
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Reply #13 posted 03/09/09 6:24am

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Stuff was available mail order on NPGMC, I'm sure the same will be true when the Lotus site, (finally), opens. But like Rory says, knowing for sure would be nice. I've got no problem downloading lossless audio files from somewhere, but I'd rather give Prince some money for physical media. biggrin
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Reply #14 posted 03/09/09 7:00am

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TheEnglishGent said:

Stuff was available mail order on NPGMC, I'm sure the same will be true when the Lotus site, (finally), opens. But like Rory says, knowing for sure would be nice. I've got no problem downloading lossless audio files from somewhere, but I'd rather give Prince some money for physical media. biggrin



Yeah, I will probably end up buying both, sucker that I am! I just like a physical cd, cover, artwork etc etc..

Pity if we have to order them online, but hey! I will be just glad to hear some new tunes.
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Reply #15 posted 03/09/09 5:22pm

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Rorywan said:

PEJ said:

come on do you really think Prince won't make his new album available worldwide. Has he ever held back any music from other countries. lame


Of course he will make it available at some stage. Who said he wouldn't?
The point is no one knows where and most importantly WHEN?

This is a prince fansite right? I think its lame to suggest or think that the world outside of the USA won't be pissed off when they can't buy the albums on the date of release.

Read all the other threads on the subject, quite a number of international orgers are feeling the frustration. we ALL know we can get it at some point.

If it was the other way around we would have all the USA Orgers bitching. Point is NO-ONE likes being excluded from an important release. And until P tells us otherwise, thats just whats happening.


confuse
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I love how you think you're excluded all of a sudden because Prince hasn't confirmed that you'll get the album at a timely manner. rolleyes
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Reply #16 posted 03/10/09 2:08am

Rorywan

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PEJ said:

Rorywan said:



Of course he will make it available at some stage. Who said he wouldn't?
The point is no one knows where and most importantly WHEN?

This is a prince fansite right? I think its lame to suggest or think that the world outside of the USA won't be pissed off when they can't buy the albums on the date of release.

Read all the other threads on the subject, quite a number of international orgers are feeling the frustration. we ALL know we can get it at some point.

If it was the other way around we would have all the USA Orgers bitching. Point is NO-ONE likes being excluded from an important release. And until P tells us otherwise, thats just whats happening.


confuse
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I love how you think you're excluded all of a sudden because Prince hasn't confirmed that you'll get the album at a timely manner. rolleyes



Think you should read my post (and all the others) properly. Yes, Prince hasn't confirmed an international release for a physical CD. Therefore the world outside USA (yes there is a world outside USA..) will be excluded from the fun of a new prince Cd launch. What's not to get?

also you should write.. you are all excluded, rather than you're excluded.






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Reply #17 posted 03/10/09 6:06am

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I think he's gonna do a deal with a Sunday Newspaper .....no newspaper has ever given away a three CD box set .....

Prince would be able to get a deal like this ..... and the newspapers in the UK would be up for it... razz
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Reply #18 posted 03/10/09 8:32am

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Sunday newspaper?
We got those over here?
In the Netherlands? Elsewhere?
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #19 posted 03/10/09 8:36am

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PEJ said:

come on do you really think Prince won't make his new album available worldwide. Has he ever held back any music from other countries. lame

Why wouldn't he communicate to use that indeed he will ship to us when he does explicitly tell about the bankrupt USA?
I.e.: why the incomplete communication?

Especially while he is a `non-major (label)` artist, the way he chooses to get his material on the market is of reasonable importance..
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Reply #20 posted 03/10/09 8:57am

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Hmm.
Posted a 'review' at target.com.
Let's see how nice their staff is or how afraid they are...
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Reply #21 posted 03/10/09 9:20am

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i dont see why they wouldnt be sold via amazon.co.uk as well the book was.
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Reply #22 posted 03/10/09 9:26am

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syble said:

i dont see why they wouldnt be sold via amazon.co.uk as well the book was.

Your search "lotusflow3r" did not match any products.
(amazon.co.uk...)
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Reply #23 posted 03/10/09 2:37pm

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udo said:

syble said:

i dont see why they wouldnt be sold via amazon.co.uk as well the book was.

Your search "lotusflow3r" did not match any products.
(amazon.co.uk...)


For christ sake, give it time.

Panic panic panic.
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Reply #24 posted 03/10/09 3:05pm

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Be patient. Maybe some distribution deal will pop up.
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Reply #25 posted 03/10/09 8:34pm

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If it's commercially unavailable in the U.K. at the time of it's release, I will have no qualms in obtaining FLAC files for free.


Pet Shop Boys are releasing a new cd.
Its available March 23 in the UK.
Its available April 21 in the USA.
So I guess its ok for me to steal a copy
rather than waiting & buying it because PSB chose
not to make it available world wide.
Its their fault not mine.
Thats your logic.

The truth is you are impatient & demanding & you want things now.
You have no respect for Prince.
You only respect you own selfish desires.
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Reply #26 posted 03/10/09 10:42pm

udo

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thedoorkeeper said:

GirlBrother said:

If it's commercially unavailable in the U.K. at the time of it's release, I will have no qualms in obtaining FLAC files for free.


Pet Shop Boys are releasing a new cd.
Its available March 23 in the UK.
Its available April 21 in the USA.
So I guess its ok for me to steal a copy
rather than waiting & buying it because PSB chose
not to make it available world wide.
Its their fault not mine.
Thats your logic.

The truth is you are impatient & demanding & you want things now.
You have no respect for Prince.
You only respect you own selfish desires.

Nonsense.
PSB did arrange distribution deals for both UK and USA.
PSB did communicate stuff.
Prince did, so far, communicate only one thing: Target as source for his new CD in the USA.
Maybe he arranged more but he did NOT yet communicate that.
Also none of this info has surfaced in the rumour circuits.
And yes, if he chooses to release his material in the USA only, I cannot get it elsewhere.
So I am unable to pay (except via grey channels) for his product.
So I can as well grab a set of mp3's, flacs, etc to fill the time until the product DOES come available via normal channels,
(and no: his website doesn't count because it is not live yet nor do we have details about available items)
His lack of effort and at least communication makes it harder for fans.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #27 posted 03/10/09 10:44pm

udo

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GoldiesParade said:

udo said:


Your search "lotusflow3r" did not match any products.
(amazon.co.uk...)


For christ sake, give it time.

I did, as I posted elsewhere on this site.
One week before the US release date...

Panic panic panic.


Not me. I made my point clear.
So that is the reality for now.

Why do you need to drag your sense of religion into this?
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #28 posted 03/11/09 4:46am

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What has happened to the org. Seems if anyone dare say something others don't agree with they are jumped on by.."you have no respect for prince" or other airy fairy Fammy shit.

eek


Come back HQ all is forgiven, take the purple freakazoids back.

I respect prince.
I love princes Music.
I will buy/download every available item.
I will give him my wallet like the sucker I am.
But I am not happy that the international fanbase seems to be left behind.
I am not happy that no date of release has been given for a physical release outside of the US.

Oh for gawds sake, every little purple fammy out there, just get over it. We do not all have to share the same ideas, thoughts and beliefs. Stop jumping on anyone who says something that you don't like. It doesn't make them a bad person. It doesn't make them 'less correct' than you. It just makes them different.

Prince is in LA big time right now, the US fans are getting the benefit of that, we had 21 nights not too long ago. So fair is fair, I hope all the US fans enjoy their time. But just release the CDS over here P. Don't let us out in the cold.
We all want to share in the fun of a new release.

R
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Reply #29 posted 03/11/09 5:07am

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Rorywan said:

Come back HQ all is forgiven, take the purple freakazoids back.

Thanks but no thanks.
HQ is a thing of the past for me, even if it may re-appear after this interetsing 38:11 frontpage thingie.

I respect prince.

Does he respect us?

I love princes Music.

Does he love our music?

I will buy/download every available item.

Most of it perhaps, yes.

I will give him my wallet like the sucker I am.

This is why I chose for hardcore instead of obsessed.

But I am not happy that the international fanbase seems to be left behind.
I am not happy that no date of release has been given for a physical release outside of the US.

Amen.


Prince is in LA big time right now, the US fans are getting the benefit of that, we had 21 nights not too long ago. So fair is fair. Just release the CDS over here P. Don't let us out in the cold.

You confuse concerts and CD's.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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