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Reply #180 posted 03/26/09 10:37am

udo

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L4OATheOriginal said:

is this another glitch on the site where the music from the albums are not playing anymore nor can u click on2 one song in particular? whenever i try 2 go 2 the worlds, the song titles keep running over and over but nothing can b heard..

There's this icon in the top left corner to enable sound.
Or is the other sound working normally?
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #181 posted 03/26/09 10:39am

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stanleylieber said:

barnum and bailey circus had a sign at the entrance: "this way to egress"

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how to do this right: http://nin.com



Thank you!!!!! I just used that point at the place where I regularly post. And Trent did it more than once for FREE. Smooth, smooth, smooth. While here we are paying for our frustration. So wrong, when it could be so right. Siiiiigh.
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Reply #182 posted 03/26/09 10:39am

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Cerebus said:

Also, since "you guys" were sent a statement from the designer, please pass this along...


How hard is it to put up an HTML announcement page addressing our concerns? I could do it for you in thirty minutes or less. Seeing as how I'm unemployed I'd be happy to do so, for a fee. Please send me an Org Note to disuss. biggrin


lol cry lol

Good one!
Then we don't have to waste space on the org and continue in productivity.
Scott can ask us directly, etc.
Say hi to Jill!
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #183 posted 03/26/09 10:42am

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Can anyone who has successfully logged onto the LF site tell me how the h@ll to log on? I've tried a million different methods, and I still can't seem to get it right. Also, there doesn't seem to be clear instructions on how to establish a user name, or password. I just guess I'm not savvy enough or intelligent enough to figure it out. Help!!

Sunkissedbrotha
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Reply #184 posted 03/26/09 10:43am

stanleylieber

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Cerebus said:

stanleylieber said:

barnum and bailey circus had a sign at the entrance: "this way to egress"

biggrin

how to do this right: http://nin.com



Thank you!!!!! I just used that point at the place where I regularly post. And Trent did it more than once for FREE. Smooth, smooth, smooth. While here we are paying for our frustration. So wrong, when it could be so right. Siiiiigh.


they have suffered their share of hiccups (like when they first posted the saul williams album and the servers went kaput), but trent has consistently done everything right with his internet promotions. he's generous with content and most importantly listens to feedback.
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #185 posted 03/26/09 10:44am

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for example, this is the site for the 2009 nin/jane's addiction tour:

http://ninja2009.com
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #186 posted 03/26/09 10:45am

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theAudience said:

CarrieMpls said:

Nice to see them address the concerns.

I think it's funny they pass the message along here and don't say that on their very own site, though.

lol

Probably done to quell the highest Whine component. wink


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431



Yea, which always comes from this fucking place. (juvenile delinqUents)
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Reply #187 posted 03/26/09 10:49am

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sunkissedbrotha said:

Can anyone who has successfully logged onto the LF site tell me how the h@ll to log on? I've tried a million different methods, and I still can't seem to get it right. Also, there doesn't seem to be clear instructions on how to establish a user name, or password. I just guess I'm not savvy enough or intelligent enough to figure it out. Help!!

Sunkissedbrotha

Click on the ticket at the right.
Fill in 1986 and Los Angeles.
Then you get teh sign up form.
Also for your creditcard etc.
Check for the SSL padlock icon.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #188 posted 03/26/09 10:49am

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Ilove said:

Anxiety said:



well ya know,

there are 3,000+ MFs on this site!!!! eyepop

Im a SMF



You're a what? a SMIRF? Is that like something out of the seven dwarfs?
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Reply #189 posted 03/26/09 10:54am

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Is that the MF as in the 1992-era meaning?
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #190 posted 03/26/09 11:00am

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QueenOfDiamonds said:

Ilove said:


Im a SMF



You're a what? a SMIRF? Is that like something out of the seven dwarfs?


it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #191 posted 03/26/09 11:00am

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Mother Fucker. Right. I see. So what's the "S" for. Son?
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Reply #192 posted 03/26/09 11:02am

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stanleylieber said:

QueenOfDiamonds said:




You're a what? a SMIRF? Is that like something out of the seven dwarfs?




Cute munchkins aren't they?
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Reply #193 posted 03/26/09 11:09am

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udo said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

is this another glitch on the site where the music from the albums are not playing anymore nor can u click on2 one song in particular? whenever i try 2 go 2 the worlds, the song titles keep running over and over but nothing can b heard..

There's this icon in the top left corner to enable sound.
Or is the other sound working normally?



all other sounds r working fine just that when i go 2 a particular album, all the song titles are flashing by and i can't play one track at all
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #194 posted 03/26/09 11:15am

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The website is garbage, pure and simple. Scott Clay and his minions should be fired and all of our money should be returned.
Jamie Starr is a thief... that bitch owes me $77.00!
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Reply #195 posted 03/26/09 11:16am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

zobilamouche said:



See, THIS is why HQ was far better then any Official Prince site. People may vent on Aaron, the mods and all that, but HQ was first and foremost the perfect tool for a prince-fan to get info. And back in the day, to see video, pictures etc. Unless Lotusflower starts providing a substantial amount of interesting unavailable items (these do NOT include candles and insence), I'll be spending some money on music elsewhere and will settle for the cd-set when it hits the stores.



so then y don't u go back 2 HQ? oh yeah that's right doh!


Never said I didn't like the Org, just pointing out that a fanmade site ran smoothly (asside the Purple Pain Parade), was informative, easy to navigate etc. While the official site, for which you have to pay quite a substantial amount of money, runs itself in the ground over fancy navigation and artwork, but totally lacks what should make the added valueof this site over a fan-based one.
The HQ-er formerly known as krokostimpy.
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Reply #196 posted 03/26/09 11:23am

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ShadeoViolet said:

I just feel, as a graphic design minor, I might have at least a tiny bit of insight on this issue...

When designing anything, we were always taught that FUNCTIONALITY comes before everything else. (Yes, even aesthetics.) The site has to work and work effortlessly. Period. If it doesn't do that, then all of the artistic flourishes are ignored and put to waste due to user frustration.. (Here's an analogy:: Imagine walking into an art gallery, and before you could view any of the beautiful pieces, you had to complete a successful round of Sudoku just to properly view any kind of drawing or painting.. That's just frustrating, isn't it?)

I don't know about everyone else, but when I want to visit a Prince website, I just want the music and videos. I don't want to play a game. Heck, that's why we have video game counsels. They are BUILT solely for that purpose. Trying to make a website into some elaborate "Myst" experience is just a very poor idea on its face. Why? Because it all goes back to functionality. Websites are built for this and for accessing information first and foremost. If they aren't doing that very well, then there needs to be a redesign. It really is that simple.

Plus, why would you want to alienate a large portion of your fan base who happen to be running PC's with lower specs? If anyone has ever wondered why the "Diablo" video game series has been so ridiculously popular after all these years, I speculate that a large part of its success might have to do with the fact that ANYONE with ANY kind of computer can smoothly run the game. (PC or Mac) This increases your potential market share greatly and ends up benefiting everyone involved..

Basically, it comes down to this:: Make the website leaner, faster, and more straightforward. I say this even as a Graphic Design minor and Art major. There's a time and place for clever Flash tricks.. and this certainly isn't it.


Couldn't have said it better myself thumbs up! and I graduated with a Graphic Design MAJOR! Functionality comes first. Even as I type, there is a glitch with Bria's album being able to play confused


Yes,yes and yes, Prince should also take note of this in his personal life, next time he wants to get married. If he keeps putting the women's aesthetics as his first 1st priority, then he will keep failing in marriage. Just like the website F for FAIL. The truth must be told cool
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Reply #197 posted 03/26/09 12:27pm

Anxiety

3/26/09 UPDATE: the MPSoUND zip was fixed last night, and they're working on optimizing video playback...
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Reply #198 posted 03/26/09 12:33pm

2elijah

I just went onto the site, and saw the dynamite actually exploded..yes it all it's purpleness, and the site was moving much quicker to get into, so there is definitely work being done on the site to make improvements.

I also went into my account information and noticed the secured "https://" link was there, and the "https://" link also stays on while you're on the site surfing in the three worlds.
[Edited 3/26/09 12:38pm]
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Reply #199 posted 03/26/09 12:52pm

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Anxiety said:

3/26/09 UPDATE: the MPSoUND zip was fixed last night, and they're working on optimizing video playback...

Are they working on responding to members'emails? wink
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Reply #200 posted 03/26/09 12:55pm

BlueZebra

2elijah said:

I just went onto the site, and saw the dynamite actually exploded..yes it all it's purpleness, and the site was moving much quicker to get into, so there is definitely work being done on the site to make improvements.

I also went into my account information and noticed the secured "https://" link was there, and the "https://" link also stays on while you're on the site surfing in the three worlds.
[Edited 3/26/09 12:38pm]


go to http://www.lotusflow3r.com/base.swf and log on. Do you still see the padlock or https in the address bar ?

Security on that site is weak, and that is probably the understatement of the year. They have to ENFORCE SSL, not give it as an option.
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Reply #201 posted 03/26/09 1:09pm

tuztones

Love the website.....but the videos are mot working properly still. It would be great though if we can have mp3 or wave file downloads of the LENO LIVE TUNES (GUITAR/1999) and the COACHELLA JAMS too....(SHHH, 7/COME TOGETHER,CREEP)
Thanks Nicky Tuzio otherwise knows as tuztones.
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Reply #202 posted 03/26/09 1:10pm

2elijah

BlueZebra said:

2elijah said:

I just went onto the site, and saw the dynamite actually exploded..yes it all it's purpleness, and the site was moving much quicker to get into, so there is definitely work being done on the site to make improvements.

I also went into my account information and noticed the secured "https://" link was there, and the "https://" link also stays on while you're on the site surfing in the three worlds.
[Edited 3/26/09 12:38pm]


go to http://www.lotusflow3r.com/base.swf and log on. Do you still see the padlock or https in the address bar ?


Security on that site is weak, and that is probably the understatement of the year. They have to ENFORCE SSL, not give it as an option.


Chill dude. I'm only reporting what was on the site when I was on there the entire time. I'm sure they're still trying to work on all the site's issues.
[Edited 3/26/09 13:11pm]
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Reply #203 posted 03/26/09 1:12pm

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Anxiety said:

3/26/09 UPDATE: the MPSoUND zip was fixed last night, and they're working on optimizing video playback...


????

I have been able to download each album in MP3 or WAV format to my desktop so many times that I've stopped counting. I've deleted all temp files and cookies ten times at least. I tried saving to different locations. I've tried the Open option on each file, vs the Save option. In every single case, from the first to the last attempt, the zipped files show as invalid or corrupt when trying to Open, Expore or Unzip. I'm using IE8 with Service Packs 3 and the 3.5 updates. I'm not a tech virgin here, either, ya know? As of the last time I went to the site earlier this morning the files simply do not work. I say the last time I went to the site because now I can't get past the Already A Member log in screen - it just sits on the ticket. Does that mean they've shut it down to fix problems? No clue - because there's no communication. And please, PLEASE, nobody suggest that I should have to use a different browser of any kind. If the site wasn't designed to work with one of the most widely used software applications on the planet they should have said so to begin with. I think it's incredile the amount of legal angles they covered in the terms for the site, and yet the only reason a VAST majority of us joined, to get the albums before we WERE going to go to Target to purchase them, has been made unenjoyable, difficult, frustrating, etc.
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Reply #204 posted 03/26/09 1:29pm

dagarcia

Anxiety said:

This note just came our way:


We understand that several people have had issues with the site, and we're working diligently to address them all as quickly as possible. With the great amount of traffic that we've received there have been some issues getting the large amount of content in the site out to everyone simultaneously. We're currently doubling the size of our server farm in order to make sure that fans can get all of the albums and videos they desire. To accommodate our friends overseas we've relaxed some of the normal security checks put in place by American banks. Since the vault has 3D and video, which is pushing the boundary of the web and current technology, only newer machines can adequately handle it. If fans are experiencing choppy videos in the vault, they should click the fullscreen button on the video and it should improve their experience. Thanks to everyone for their patience while we scale up LotusFlow3r.com to accommodate the great response from Prince fans all over the world.

Thanks so much,
Scott


3/26/09 UPDATE: the MPSoUND zip was fixed last night, and they're working on optimizing video playback...


What about the sign in page? It's 1:27 p.m. (pst) on 3/26/09 and I have been trying to sign in for about 90 minutes! Who can we email about issues like this...? And is there any way of getting a refund?
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Reply #205 posted 03/26/09 1:29pm

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Doesn't seem to be a problem to communicate that there's more Tonight Show tickets available.disbelief
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Reply #206 posted 03/26/09 1:35pm

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Cerebus said:

Anxiety said:

3/26/09 UPDATE: the MPSoUND zip was fixed last night, and they're working on optimizing video playback...


????

I have been able to download each album in MP3 or WAV format to my desktop so many times that I've stopped counting. I've deleted all temp files and cookies ten times at least. I tried saving to different locations. I've tried the Open option on each file, vs the Save option. In every single case, from the first to the last attempt, the zipped files show as invalid or corrupt when trying to Open, Expore or Unzip. I'm using IE8 with Service Packs 3 and the 3.5 updates. I'm not a tech virgin here, either, ya know? As of the last time I went to the site earlier this morning the files simply do not work. I say the last time I went to the site because now I can't get past the Already A Member log in screen - it just sits on the ticket. Does that mean they've shut it down to fix problems? No clue - because there's no communication. And please, PLEASE, nobody suggest that I should have to use a different browser of any kind. If the site wasn't designed to work with one of the most widely used software applications on the planet they should have said so to begin with. I think it's incredile the amount of legal angles they covered in the terms for the site, and yet the only reason a VAST majority of us joined, to get the albums before we WERE going to go to Target to purchase them, has been made unenjoyable, difficult, frustrating, etc.


IE8 is 7 days old smile IF you are running IE8 and you're not a tech virgin, I can only guess that you have Opera, Firefox OR Chrome installed too ...

Anyway, I can't guess why a zip could get corrupted on transfer confuse
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Reply #207 posted 03/26/09 1:45pm

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BlueZebra said:



IE8 is 7 days old smile


And IT works great. lol I love everything they changed about it and it's definitely faster. However, web designers know (or the should know) the specs of
what's GOING to be happening on the internet, not just what is happening. I believe they can even get access to beta versions of some applications. Anyway, no; I do not have any other browsers installed on my PC as I've been online, non-stop, since 1996 and NEVER needed one. I was considering trying to visit the site through IE7, though.
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Reply #208 posted 03/26/09 1:52pm

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does anyone have the email address for support over there? i have an issue/inquiry and can't find it on the site or in the confirmation email i was sent.

thanks.
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #209 posted 03/26/09 2:28pm

CrimsonLot3s

errant said:

does anyone have the email address for support over there? i have an issue/inquiry and can't find it on the site or in the confirmation email i was sent.

thanks.


support@lotusflow3r.com
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