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Thread started 03/25/09 8:25am

donnyenglish

At Least the CD's are Good

I could not be more disappointed in the website. He needs to fire/sue the designers.

But, like most fans, I'm about the music and I'm liking both Prince CD's. Lotusflow3r exceeded my expectations and MPLsound has some gems.

If I'm ever on an 8 hour drive, I'll listen to Bria.
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Reply #1 posted 03/25/09 8:27am

Xenuprime

Can you tell me what songs are different from the Target release? I know Crimson and Clover is not on the download.

Thanks!
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Reply #2 posted 03/25/09 8:27am

ARock

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im soo mad... i wanna hear the albums. I was charged and can't even get in

(yea im gonna bitch and moan sry!)
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Reply #3 posted 03/25/09 8:36am

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Xenuprime said:

Can you tell me what songs are different from the Target release? I know Crimson and Clover is not on the download.

Thanks!


LotusFlow3r target CD has "Crimson & Clover", LotusFlow3r.com download does not

LotusFlow3r.com download has "The Morning After", and the target CD does not.
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Reply #4 posted 03/25/09 8:42am

Xenuprime

Thank you 222! I just wanted to know if I was missing anything big by not joining (still debating). Does anyone know if morning after is any good?

I don't think Prince will have a good "morning after" once he hears what most people are saying about the site!
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Reply #5 posted 03/25/09 8:53am

mushmackalenta

I haven't looked around the site much, It took me so long to get the albums and I had to ask a friend what the problem was, you need to change the file name to .zip then you can get to the files.

Why we have to do that ourselves is strange and why are there no instructions.

So far still only on Elixir first listen due to PC problems, it's OK not totally dreadful, but maybe a 4/10. Milk and Honey was a better album by far.
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Reply #6 posted 03/25/09 11:20am

BartVanHemelen

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Xenuprime said:

Thank you 222! I just wanted to know if I was missing anything big by not joining (still debating). Does anyone know if morning after is any good?


None of Lotusflow3r is any good. Exactly the same mediocre crap he's been peddling for the past ten years.
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Reply #7 posted 03/25/09 11:21am

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Xenuprime said:

Thank you 222! I just wanted to know if I was missing anything big by not joining (still debating). Does anyone know if morning after is any good?

I don't think Prince will have a good "morning after" once he hears what most people are saying about the site!


The Morning After is the equivalent to All the Midnight's in the World from Planet Earth. It's kinda ok but doesn't really fit with the rest of the album.
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Reply #8 posted 03/25/09 2:10pm

PEJ

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BartVanHemelen said:

Xenuprime said:

Thank you 222! I just wanted to know if I was missing anything big by not joining (still debating). Does anyone know if morning after is any good?


None of Lotusflow3r is any good. Exactly the same mediocre crap he's been peddling for the past ten years.




so I see you joined the site. my prediction was right last week. I said you would be negative and sure enough... whistling No more candy 4 u
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #9 posted 03/25/09 3:11pm

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PEJ said:

BartVanHemelen said:



None of Lotusflow3r is any good. Exactly the same mediocre crap he's been peddling for the past ten years.




so I see you joined the site. my prediction was right last week. I said you would be negative and sure enough... whistling No more candy 4 u

you tell em! what a jerk...the amazing thing is that people like this still come to a site like the org to bitch and moan..dude probably hasn't even heard the album at all.
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Reply #10 posted 03/25/09 3:16pm

PEJ

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popgodazipa said:

PEJ said:





so I see you joined the site. my prediction was right last week. I said you would be negative and sure enough... whistling No more candy 4 u

you tell em! what a jerk...the amazing thing is that people like this still come to a site like the org to bitch and moan..dude probably hasn't even heard the album at all.




oh I'm sure he's heard it. My guess is probably listening to it right now. He just doesn't seem to have it in him to come say he likes it.
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #11 posted 03/25/09 3:33pm

popgodazipa

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PEJ said:

popgodazipa said:


you tell em! what a jerk...the amazing thing is that people like this still come to a site like the org to bitch and moan..dude probably hasn't even heard the album at all.




oh I'm sure he's heard it. My guess is probably listening to it right now. He just doesn't seem to have it in him to come say he likes it.

Ok..but tell me why would a mofo still be checkin for prince if he says he hasn't heard that "hot dylan fire" from p in 10 years. I can't stand shit hop...and that's why you won't find me on allhiphop or any other HIPHOP site complaining about it. Easier to just ignore it.
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Reply #12 posted 03/25/09 3:41pm

PEJ

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popgodazipa said:

PEJ said:





oh I'm sure he's heard it. My guess is probably listening to it right now. He just doesn't seem to have it in him to come say he likes it.

Ok..but tell me why would a mofo still be checkin for prince if he says he hasn't heard that "hot dylan fire" from p in 10 years. I can't stand shit hop...and that's why you won't find me on allhiphop or any other HIPHOP site complaining about it. Easier to just ignore it.



well I've said it before.. for some fans Prince is to them like crack is to a crackhead. some will search and strive to get that same high they got the first time they hit that rock pipe. They are spoiled fiends/fans that are never satisfied and will complain continuously. It might be psychological because what pleasure can they get coming on a Prince site and continuously carry on with on going negativity other than they are miserable and misery loves company.
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Reply #13 posted 03/25/09 5:39pm

222

popgodazipa said:

PEJ said:





oh I'm sure he's heard it. My guess is probably listening to it right now. He just doesn't seem to have it in him to come say he likes it.

Ok..but tell me why would a mofo still be checkin for prince if he says he hasn't heard that "hot dylan fire" from p in 10 years. I can't stand shit hop...and that's why you won't find me on allhiphop or any other HIPHOP site complaining about it. Easier to just ignore it.


no offense but some1 with a nickname of "popgodazipa" might not understand why a 20-30 year fan might be unsatisfied with most of the newer stuff.

i'm assuming that you are big fan of that song and that sound, which really doesn't fall in line with the experimental funky stuff that Prince was doing in the 80s, the memories of which is what keeps most people coming back.

as far as the new music goes, I got my hands on it this afternoon and I cannot say that I've heard anything that blows me away. a lot of lotusflow3r seems like easy listening music to me, while mplsound tries to catch the old magic and comes close but doesn't quite do it in most cases.

i think most of the reviews (rolling stone, etc) that come out in the next few days will not be as kind as the early ones have been. looking at it now, i can really appreciate this idea - give the fans of guitar/rock songs a disc and the fans of the electronic funky shit a disc, but i think that the focus wasn't strong enough on either style to really deliver on either one. to me, it came out more like "Planet Earth 2" (Lotus) and "Musicology 2" (MPLS), with neither as good as the original. like any hardcore fan I will give it more listens and see if I come out with a different impression.
[Edited 3/25/09 17:58pm]
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Reply #14 posted 03/25/09 6:19pm

PEJ

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222 said:

popgodazipa said:


Ok..but tell me why would a mofo still be checkin for prince if he says he hasn't heard that "hot dylan fire" from p in 10 years. I can't stand shit hop...and that's why you won't find me on allhiphop or any other HIPHOP site complaining about it. Easier to just ignore it.


no offense but some1 with a nickname of "popgodazipa" might not understand why a 20-30 year fan might be unsatisfied with most of the newer stuff.

i'm assuming that you are big fan of that song and that sound, which really doesn't fall in line with the experimental funky stuff that Prince was doing in the 80s, the memories of which is what keeps most people coming back.

as far as the new music goes, I got my hands on it this afternoon and I cannot say that I've heard anything that blows me away. a lot of lotusflow3r seems like easy listening music to me, while mplsound tries to catch the old magic and comes close but doesn't quite do it in most cases.

i think most of the reviews (rolling stone, etc) that come out in the next few days will not be as kind as the early ones have been. looking at it now, i can really appreciate this idea - give the fans of guitar/rock songs a disc and the fans of the electronic funky shit a disc, but i think that the focus wasn't strong enough on either style to really deliver on either one. to me, it came out more like "Planet Earth 2" (Lotus) and "Musicology 2" (MPLS), with neither as good as the original. like any hardcore fan I will give it more listens and see if I come out with a different impression.
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ripopgodazipa is a great song!
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Reply #15 posted 03/25/09 7:21pm

OzlemUcucu

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PEJ said:

BartVanHemelen said:



None of Lotusflow3r is any good. Exactly the same mediocre crap he's been peddling for the past ten years.




so I see you joined the site. my prediction was right last week. I said you would be negative and sure enough... whistling No more candy 4 u


I agree with Bart here, lotusflower is crap, mpls is great and song elixir is great too with P vocals.
Prince I will always miss and love U.
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Reply #16 posted 03/25/09 7:22pm

popgodazipa

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222 said:

popgodazipa said:


Ok..but tell me why would a mofo still be checkin for prince if he says he hasn't heard that "hot dylan fire" from p in 10 years. I can't stand shit hop...and that's why you won't find me on allhiphop or any other HIPHOP site complaining about it. Easier to just ignore it.


no offense but some1 with a nickname of "popgodazipa" might not understand why a 20-30 year fan might be unsatisfied with most of the newer stuff.

i'm assuming that you are big fan of that song and that sound, which really doesn't fall in line with the experimental funky stuff that Prince was doing in the 80s, the memories of which is what keeps most people coming back.

as far as the new music goes, I got my hands on it this afternoon and I cannot say that I've heard anything that blows me away. a lot of lotusflow3r seems like easy listening music to me, while mplsound tries to catch the old magic and comes close but doesn't quite do it in most cases.

i think most of the reviews (rolling stone, etc) that come out in the next few days will not be as kind as the early ones have been. looking at it now, i can really appreciate this idea - give the fans of guitar/rock songs a disc and the fans of the electronic funky shit a disc, but i think that the focus wasn't strong enough on either style to really deliver on either one. to me, it came out more like "Planet Earth 2" (Lotus) and "Musicology 2" (MPLS), with neither as good as the original. like any hardcore fan I will give it more listens and see if I come out with a different impression.
[Edited 3/25/09 17:58pm]

None taken...I've been down with Prince for a good minute. I love Prince's earlier works just as much as his Crystal Ball era stuff..I despised the hip hop, what the hell or those 5 brothers with no instruments in black shirts with P on stage prince era.. What I recognize in Prince is growth and I don't sit reminiscing about yesteryear and long for the influences that Wendy and Lisa obviously had on his earlier work. My taste in music has changed also..I'm a Peg, Steely Dan guy in a Toxic, Brittney Spears world..but both of those are still my jams. I really appreciate the attention and sheer volume of work that P produces and know that if I could be half as good and dedicated in anything I do...I would be a smashing success. But it always comes back to the music and I know damn well if any new artist released a gem like "Valentina" they would undoubtably be compared to P era classics like Dorothy Parker..but to hell with the comparisons, both of them are stone cold grooves.
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Reply #17 posted 03/25/09 7:23pm

Vendetta1

donnyenglish said:

I could not be more disappointed in the website. He needs to fire/sue the designers.

But, like most fans, I'm about the music and I'm liking both Prince CD's. Lotusflow3r exceeded my expectations and MPLsound has some gems.

If I'm ever on an 8 hour drive, I'll listen to Bria.
spit

That's the first thing I said last night. lol
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Reply #18 posted 03/25/09 7:30pm

xlr8r

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The cds are th e greatest things Ive heard from him in over 15 years.
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Reply #19 posted 03/25/09 7:32pm

xlr8r

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BartVanHemelen said:

Xenuprime said:

Thank you 222! I just wanted to know if I was missing anything big by not joining (still debating). Does anyone know if morning after is any good?


None of Lotusflow3r is any good. Exactly the same mediocre crap he's been peddling for the past ten years.



You are such a child I swear.
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Reply #20 posted 03/25/09 7:33pm

Vendetta1

xlr8r said:

BartVanHemelen said:



None of Lotusflow3r is any good. Exactly the same mediocre crap he's been peddling for the past ten years.



You are such a child I swear.
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Reply #21 posted 03/25/09 7:35pm

xlr8r

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Vendetta1 said:

xlr8r said:




You are such a child I swear.
falloff


lol

He is he is actually the orgs (or internet prince worlds) biggest and longest standing troll


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Reply #22 posted 03/25/09 7:39pm

PEJ

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lol
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Reply #23 posted 03/25/09 7:39pm

Vendetta1

xlr8r said:

Vendetta1 said:

falloff


lol

He is he is actually the orgs (or internet prince worlds) biggest and longest standing troll


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[Edited 3/25/09 19:37pm]
I don't get it: if Bart hates Prince so much, why is he listening to the music at all?
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Reply #24 posted 03/25/09 7:43pm

xlr8r

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Vendetta1 said:

xlr8r said:



lol

He is he is actually the orgs (or internet prince worlds) biggest and longest standing troll


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[Edited 3/25/09 19:37pm]
I don't get it: if Bart hates Prince so much, why is he listening to the music at all?



He is a troll. He has intenret fame of being prines biggest hater or wghat have you. And he enjoys that. You know how some children (or adults) will even take negative attention. Because at least its attenton.

Now not to make this about Bart but yes there is reason to complain about the sites mishaps recently but to dismiss the music? Its just his schtick that he has been doing since 1997.

He is is like that Lou character. Though he isnt cognitively deficient, it doesnt mean he is not an internet troll.
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Reply #25 posted 03/25/09 7:48pm

Vendetta1

xlr8r said:

Vendetta1 said:

I don't get it: if Bart hates Prince so much, why is he listening to the music at all?



He is a troll. He has intenret fame of being prines biggest hater or wghat have you. And he enjoys that. You know how some children (or adults) will even take negative attention. Because at least its attenton.

Now not to make this about Bart but yes there is reason to complain about the sites mishaps recently but to dismiss the music? Its just his schtick that he has been doing since 1997.

He is is like that Lou character. Though he isnt cognitively deficient, it doesnt mean he is not an internet troll.
I thought he was Lou. lol
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Reply #26 posted 03/25/09 7:51pm

xlr8r

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Vendetta1 said:

xlr8r said:




He is a troll. He has intenret fame of being prines biggest hater or wghat have you. And he enjoys that. You know how some children (or adults) will even take negative attention. Because at least its attenton.

Now not to make this about Bart but yes there is reason to complain about the sites mishaps recently but to dismiss the music? Its just his schtick that he has been doing since 1997.

He is is like that Lou character. Though he isnt cognitively deficient, it doesnt mean he is not an internet troll.
I thought he was Lou. lol


ouch! lmao lol
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Reply #27 posted 03/25/09 8:23pm

npggirl77

BartVanHemelen said:

Xenuprime said:

Thank you 222! I just wanted to know if I was missing anything big by not joining (still debating). Does anyone know if morning after is any good?


None of Lotusflow3r is any good. Exactly the same mediocre crap he's been peddling for the past ten years.

Glad you have an opinion.
But I do NOT agree at all!
-you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude!
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Reply #28 posted 03/25/09 9:26pm

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npggirl77 said:

BartVanHemelen said:



None of Lotusflow3r is any good. Exactly the same mediocre crap he's been peddling for the past ten years.

Glad you have an opinion.
But I do NOT agree at all!


I betcha Prince agrees.
I betcha most of these songs will NOT be played regularly.
I betcha Prince will stop "promoting" this album mere months from now.
I betcha these albums will get exactly the same treatment as anything Prince has put out post-1995: dumped and ignored mere months after the release.

If you think there's anything on these albums that will be featured in future tours, think again.
If you think there's anything classic, think again.

Here's an idea: cue up Joy In Repetition (and I don't mean the pathetic verins he did of this post-1995, I'm talking about the album cut), and listen to it. If you think there's anything on any of these albums that's worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as JIR, you need to have your head checked.

Lotusflow3r sticks, Mplsound is a pathetic attempt at recapturing old glory by imitating the sound of his 1980s albums (and just like Rave an utter failure), and Bria's album is undoubtedly a pile of dung but I haven't even listened to it.

Sheesh, even his protégés are boring these days. Why does he even bother with them?
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Reply #29 posted 03/25/09 9:31pm

BartVanHemelen

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PEJ said:

so I see you joined the site.


$77 is less than 1.5 hours of work for me.

PEJ said:

my prediction was right last week. I said you would be negative and sure enough... whistling


Yeah, because I'm the lone voice here, right, I mean, it's not like there's some huge bitchfest going on, it's not like that Scott dude is now sending emails to the Org to attempt to stop the bitching.

It's not like the EXACT SAME THING happened when NPGMC v1 was launched -- oh wait, it is, and all the bitching from people like me did what? Let's see: MP3s and videos were upgraded to better quality, and the crappy QuickTime interface was dumped and replaced by a standard website. What have YOU ever done for your fellow fans?
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