My boyfriend hasn't gotten his ONA live cd set, but he got something else from the NPGMC...a computer virus!
The subject line for the email was 'endspan' and the file size was 179k.
Keep your eyes peeled for this special delivery...

applekisses said:

You don't know much about how a virus works do you?

lovemachine said:

Oh, wise one, why don't you enlighten all of us?

applekisses said:

I did a little research and I think that this is the Klez virus that you have caught and the Klez worm attaches itself to someones email list then sends out these fake subjects with attachments infected with the virus. Endspan is one of the fake subject lines.

As with most viruses you cannot tell who this virus is from by looking at the "senders" e-mail because this virus creates bogus sender names gathered from your address books.


WHich is why the NPGMC did not send you this virus. Why would they send you a virus?



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[This message was edited Wed Nov 27 7:52:24 PST 2002 by lovemachine]

lovemachine said:

it was from NPG Music Club (npgmc@npgonlineltd.com)

and i do know about the Klez, Sircam and other recent variations (including the ones promoting friendship screensavers).

It might have been internal, but it has been quite some time since we last received any emales from NPGMC, until now. I received four emails from NPGMC, one of them a virus. I noticed it right off because the acronym was lowercase, not upper.

I was trying to post some links, but they aren't working...so.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 27 7:57:55 PST 2002 by lovemachine]

a2grafix said:

It's very easy to fake the from line in emails; just a few months ago people were sending fake emails from the club to people on this site.

lovemachine said:

I didn't say that they sent it on purpose... That's a little 'X-Files' don't ya think?

lovemachine said:

It's possible that their server is infected. They would not realize that they are sending out the virus. THAT's how most computer viruses work.
So, to answer your first, incredibly rude question, YES, I do know how computer viruses work.
Why the hell would I think that the NPGMC was knowingly trying to wreck havoc on people's systems?
Ultimately, does it really matter if they are sending it from their system or not when you're trying to warn people about not opening email attachments from the NPGMC without scanning them first?
Whether or not they actually sent it, it's still under their name and still can infect your computer.


[This message was edited Wed Nov 27 8:51:39 PST 2002 by applekisses]

i received a few weird emails purporting to be from the 'NPGMC' too.

before i opened any attachments to the emails i checked and the sender's return address didn't match the true NPGMC address.

so i didn't bother opening either the file attachment which came with one email or clicking on the link which was sent to me in a second email.

being suspicious, me, i decided to assume the worst. never opened those files/links. sent back a nasty message to the sender telling them not to bother because i would be deleting their emails in the future.

at first i felt bad about assuming the sender was evil, but now i'm glad 'cause a friend of mine's computer needed repair after she opened something sent to her by someone 'with the NPGMC'


so watchout folks.

applekisses said:

While it's possible it on their server; its not very likely at all. Being as the subject line is a Klez virus subject line it makes it almost completely unlikely. Read this article...because it doesn't seem as if you know how computer viruses work if you still think that "it's under their name". Did you research the Klez at all?

http://www.wired.com/news...,00.html

Who is ?




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[This message was edited Wed Nov 27 11:19:33 PST 2002 by lovemachine]

I got my first Klez virus from klhk@bet.com
I know it wasn't her, but that's how that thing works.

After my machine was infected from the first e-mail, I got the virus sent to me via e-mail from everyone in my contact list.

Over, and over, and over again.


Also, what ever happened to klhk?

klez is the number one virus out there today. It attaches to senders address books, and greeting cards.

lovemachine said:

You obviously don't understand what I'm saying and I know that I don't usually have a problem in explaining myself to the masses -- I am a journalist.
That being said let me explain this in the most simplistic way I know how...
If you, or any other average person, gets an email that says it's from (for example) your friend, Joe joe@amazon.com wouldn't you assume just by looking at the 'from' line in your email inbox that it was from your friend, Joe joe@amazon.com ?
Now...
if that email that joe@amazon.com sent (whether he actually sent it himself or a klez worm sent it out) had an attachment that contained an email virus, wouldn't you be careful when opening ANY email that says that it came from the email address of joe@amazon.com regardless of whether it actually came from his computer/server?
That is my point...

XxAxX said:

See, this is my point...if you get an email that looks shady CHECK IT OUT.
I'm not assuming that the NPGMC is out to infect the worlds computers with a Klez worm...jeez...

A worm will look at your address book, and or sent emails to find addresses to send itself to, as well as email addresses to spoof. If someone you know has a virus, and they've corresponded through email in the past with NPGMC, it could simply be the virus happened to use that email address as the sender.

If NPGMC did have a worm/virus, wouldn't it make sense that we would all be recieving these emails if we're in their database, address book, or whatever?

Tom said:

Yep...just wait...the NPGMC is out to infect all of our computers with the Klez virus...
I heard it in a backwards message on "The Rainbow Children"

applekisses said:

Well if this is your point then woulnd't making this thread be completely useless? So if I got the Klez virus from my aunt Karen, who is in my address book, should I post a thread saying watch out for mail from my Aunt Karen?

A more logical thread would be that the Klez virus is striking again and it attaches itself to names in your address book. You could say that for example I received the virus from a sender that said it was the NPGMC when it clearly wasn't from them as this is how the virus works. You could have warned people of the subject line and told them to check all attachments. I think bringing the NPGMC into the equation was wrong because clearly they had nothing to do with it. And you stated whith the initial post that they sent you the virus which is apparantly not true if this is indeed the Klez.


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[This message was edited Wed Nov 27 14:59:38 PST 2002 by lovemachine]