A Respectful Request…
We r respectfully asking fans and fansites 2 abide by the per4mers and the management’s wishes… please do not use cameras of any sort 2 record Prince’s per4mances at the O2. We r respectfully asking the fansites not 2 host any of the photographs obtained in this manner. Thank u 4 ur support.

Posted by 3121 ~ 2007 Tour


http://www.3121.com/blog/?p=75

A Respectful Request…
We r respectfully asking fans and fansites 2 abide by the per4mers and the management’s wishes… please do not use cameras of any sort 2 record Prince’s per4mances at the O2. We r respectfully asking the fansites not 2 host any of the photographs obtained in this manner. Thank u 4 ur support.

Posted by 3121 ~ 2007 Tour


http://www.3121.com/blog/?p=75

Didn't I read somewhere on here that the O2 allowed cameras in it's venue? What's the big deal? I mean I respect his wishes and all but I just don't see why it's such an issue

A Respectful Request…
We r respectfully asking fans and fansites 2 abide by the per4mers and the management’s wishes… please do not use cameras of any sort 2 record Prince’s per4mances at the O2. We r respectfully asking the fansites not 2 host any of the photographs obtained in this manner. Thank u 4 ur support.

Posted by 3121 ~ 2007 Tour


http://www.3121.com/blog/?p=75

Does this mean that you can't take a photocamera with you at all?

I think 3121.com need to get onto the venue itself!

Read email sent to me below..

You must produce a valid Ticket to gain entry to the Venue and upon request for inspection at any time.
There is no readmission once you have left the Venue.
All children must have a Ticket.
Children under 14 must be accompanied by a responsible adult at all events.
The standing area is not suitable for under 16’s. Each Venue’s management reserves the right to remove any child from the standing area for safety reasons.
We do not recommend subjecting children to loud music over a sustained period of time.
Except for shows specifically aimed at children, accompanying adults should be confident that the child will not cause disruption to other audience members or they may be asked to leave the auditorium of the Venue.
Customers are requested to address any special needs requirements in advance of their visit by contacting: ticketing@theO2.co.uk or calling Ticketmaster on 0870 4000 750.
Animals, with the exception of assistance dogs, are not permitted in The O2.
In case of an emergency, you must follow the instructions and directions from the Venue’s stewards, staff and/or other officials.
Latecomers may not be admitted until a suitable break in the event performance.
Entry is conditional on your agreement to a search of your person and any items carried. We reserve the right to confiscate any item deemed dangerous, contrary to these Terms and Conditions or that may cause disruption to the event or other patrons.
In order to facilitate the security, safety and comfort of all patrons each Venue reserves the right at its reasonable discretion to refuse admission in which case it shall refund the Ticket value.
You may be ejected from the Venue if, in the reasonable opinion of the Venue, you may be a risk to the safety of any patron; affect the enjoyment of other patrons and/or the running of the event. Examples include but are not limited to being (or appearing to be): drunk or incapable or intoxicated, under age (where relevant), abusive, threatening, behaving anti-socially, carrying offensive weapons or illegal substances, declining to be searched or are in breach of these Terms and Conditions.
• The following activities are strictly prohibited and may result in customers being asked to leave a Venue:

entry onto the performing area and backstage or any other prohibited areas;
unauthorised visual or audio recording inside any Venue in The O2;
standing on seats or in any walkways and climbing any fencing or other structure;
throwing any object or substance onto the performing area or otherwise in the Venue;
excessive noise or the use of abusive language or gestures;
unauthorised offer for sale or distribution of any newspapers, magazines, merchandise or other items;
possession of any article which is or may be used as a weapon or missile;
damage to or interfering with any property of The O2 or Event Promoter;
crowd surfing and moshing; and
smoking anywhere inside any building in The O2.
• No food or drink is permitted to be brought into a Venue. A variety of food and beverages (alcoholic and non-alcoholic) will be available for purchase inside each Venue.
• The use of unauthorised cameras, video or sound recording equipment (including without limitation, mobile phones or other devices used for such purpose), is prohibited and such items may be confiscated.
• The consumption of intoxicating liquors is permitted only in authorised places and in accordance with the Licensing Act 1964 and the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol) Act 1985 and other statutory or regulatory requirements that may come into force from time to time.
• The O2 operates a No Proof of Age, No Sale of Alcohol Policy. If you appear to be under the Age of 21, you may be asked to prove you are over 18.
• Loud music can damage hearing.
• All events are subject to licence.

Can I offer 3121 a spellcheck?

darthbane2k said:

These are the admission terms at the o2...


So someones being misleading me personally wouldnt chance it

cream72 said:

Nothing midleading about it ... pocket cameras with a lense that is 32 millimeters or less are authorized.
And in fact, they will pretty much let you enter the venue with everything but the kitchen sink.
[Edited 8/14/07 8:47am]

From what I understand about this matter, taking pictures at concerts is not illegal although it may be against the wishes of the venue owner or performing artist. They may choose to eject you from the building, but more than that they cannot do. They cannot legally take your camera away for example.
So that is the chance fans are taking when they choose to take pictures, they may get ejected and possibly barred from visiting any more shows.

The pictures themselves tho are completely owned by whomever took them. There is no underlying copyright or intellectual property that may be claimed by anyone other than the person that took the photograph.

It is therefor their own choice to post them anywhere they please, and all Prince can legally do is scare people a bit.

The org is a reflection of the Prince community. If members of this community choose to take pictures that they can legally publish anywhere they please, it is not this site's job to censor their efforts. This site is not Prince's little playground, this site belongs to all of us.
[Edited 8/14/07 8:40am]

m3taverse said:

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Are you going to believe anything that you are being told by customer service? If the signs say no cameras that means no cameras.
I do not know any concert hall that allows customer to take pictures of the artist. This is from 20 years of going to concerts.

If you post the pics on the websites then it is obvious you broke the rules.

m3taverse said:

While the org may not HAVE to comply, we do. It's a request made in good faith and we're the kind of folks who like to honor that.

CarrieMpls said:

I understand Ben doesn't want the hassle, but we both know that mutual respect and good faith have nothing to do with the request at hand. This is a one way street where Prince tells us what he allows and what he doesn't, even tho most of it makes no sense whatsoever.
Carrie, good faith is when two parties have a frank and open conversation with each other. In this case one party will always lie about intellectual property and copyright, will threathen sites and individual fans with court actions that can never actually take place as the initial charge is completely baseless.
Not wanting the hassle I respect, but it has nothing to do with "good faith". Prince will not return the favor in any way shape or form.

m3taverse said:

eh, to-may-to to-mah-to.

luv4u said:

Pathetic.