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Reply #30 posted 07/07/06 10:15pm

Handclapsfinga
snapz

sosgemini said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


we think? change that--we know that he's an incompetent businessman. if he weren't, the majority of us definitely wouldn't be bitching about stuff he's done in the past.



falloff

all he had to say was that due to pending letigation all future prince corresponandance would be handled via 3121...


but nooooo....he had to close things down without any warning or explenation.

e-fucking-xactly! falloff
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Reply #31 posted 07/07/06 10:17pm

sacredwarrior

sosgemini said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


we think? change that--we know that he's an incompetent businessman. if he weren't, the majority of us definitely wouldn't be bitching about stuff he's done in the past.



falloff

all he had to say was that due to pending letigation all future prince corresponandance would be handled via 3121...


but nooooo....he had to close things down without any warning or explenation.



yeah so 'lets all go help the callous prick! '


Synergy...

wakey wakey love


heart
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Reply #32 posted 07/07/06 11:31pm

Snap

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

sosgemini said:




falloff

all he had to say was that due to pending letigation all future prince corresponandance would be handled via 3121...


but nooooo....he had to close things down without any warning or explenation.

e-fucking-xactly! falloff


this is what irritates me more than anything
always these childish games... why?

and when did "NPG" ever convey the Lovesexy vibe from which those words were first birthed?
abc'ya npg
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Reply #33 posted 07/08/06 12:26am

Shavanti

U want the TRUTH...Here is the TRUTH! U can choose 2 believe it or not!


This is what the e-mail from NPG says....


Tough Shit that I pulled the plug on the Club!

Tough Shit that I didn't give u all any notice!

Tough Shit that U didn't get the e-mail from US as there NO LONGER is an US!

Tough Shit that U didn't get ur downloads...U should have already bought them!

Tough Shit that U NOW want Merchandise!....U should have already bought it!

Tough Shit that U will not know if I'm going 2 go on tour and if I do U will have 2 pay (a higher price) Damn, I never told the Club what I was doing anyways. It always seemed 2 get leaked out on the "un-authorized" sites anyways, so why do I need 2 have a Club?

Are U REALLY gunna believe that this is a "hiatus"...PLEAZEEEEE read between the lines!


It's all there U just have 2 want 2 see the TRUTH!

And DON'T blame this on the folx @ NPG as they have a boss that decides ALL of these things and only HE makes the decisions and his name is PRINCE. So if u want 2 blame...blame him! And if U think he really gives a rat's ass about what U think ur livin in a dream world...just like him!
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Reply #34 posted 07/08/06 1:49am

Synergy

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Whatever ppl, just passing on the news... do what U like with it.
Angels, love and light,
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Reply #35 posted 07/08/06 4:19am

purplefrank

HM Publishers Holding Ltd buy into india...

MACMILLAN INDIA LTD. H M PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LTD. 04-May-98 03-Jun-98 564312 20 220 CONSOLIDATION OF HOLDINGS 70.98 IND GLOBAL FINANCIAL TRUST LTD MONDKAR COMPUTERS PVT. LTD.

http://216.239.59.104/sea...=clnk&cd=1
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Reply #36 posted 07/08/06 4:26am

purplefrank

This is their companies registered public address (Oh they're MacMilan Publishers!)

H M Publishers Holdings Ltd. Brunel Road Houndmills Basingstoke RG21 6XS Tel: 01256-329242

They are one of the Top 500 Companies in Europe - Largest Companies in UK:

http://www.top500.de/g0031233.htm

And have heavily invested in Macmillian Publishers in India

http://www.macmillanindia...er2005.doc

And have sued for copyright before online:

http://arbiter.wipo.int/d...-0741.html

and again:

http://arbiter.wipo.int/d...-0658.html
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Reply #37 posted 07/08/06 4:35am

coketa

Karma is something else.Remember all the times Prince has sued other people?And why Lie?"You aint gotta lie craig"
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Reply #38 posted 07/08/06 7:18am

babynoz

Synergy said:

avah12 said:

I wonder if this explains why the gray NPGMC logo has disappeared from the blank website, leaving just a black void now.


Yes, it more than likely is the reason, because according 2 the above letter sent 2 the lawyers representing Prince and PPE, the "NPG" more than likely cannot b used until the very least August 2, 2007 - when all testimony and Discovery must b submitted. I seriously doubt that it would b that soon as they would have 2 await a judgement from the governing committee.

I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

So, is this possible? Or am I just evil? lol lol lol

Oh and U're welcome on thanks 4 my research... Cool




Hi Syn,

I gotta hand it to you and the others for this research. Impressive.

A quick suggestion about your idea. That big heart of yours is in the right place, but we know how P is. You said yourself that this probably isn't the only reason for the shutdown. Since none of us is in personal contact with Prince, before you rally the troops I would caution you to contact his legal representation to determine if he would welcome the type of action you propose. The fact is, we have no idea what else may be going on and a shot in the dark like this, however well intended, could very well backfire.



Johnny Cochran would be proud of you, girl! cool
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #39 posted 07/08/06 7:38am

gemini13

sosgemini said:

wow, *thats* what this is all about? once again, why not just come clean?


oh wait, that would have been too easy.

sigh


This is the reason my "fandom" has waned in the past. Prince is secretive and deceptive, which in my eyes makes him sort of a pussy. confused
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Reply #40 posted 07/08/06 7:47am

sosgemini

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Synergy said:

avah12 said:

I wonder if this explains why the gray NPGMC logo has disappeared from the blank website, leaving just a black void now.


Yes, it more than likely is the reason, because according 2 the above letter sent 2 the lawyers representing Prince and PPE, the "NPG" more than likely cannot b used until the very least August 2, 2007 - when all testimony and Discovery must b submitted. I seriously doubt that it would b that soon as they would have 2 await a judgement from the governing committee.

I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

So, is this possible? Or am I just evil? lol lol lol

Oh and U're welcome on thanks 4 my research... Cool



you really want folks to consider filing a class action lawsuit? with soo much horrors going on in this world you want folks to consider a class action lawsuit over a company that has legal rights to protect their trademark?
Space for sale...
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Reply #41 posted 07/08/06 9:44am

RockNRoll

Synergy said:



I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

Or am I just evil? lol lol lol




No, you're not evil... maybe just bored lol



Synergy, you have got to be kidding right? This is a joke?


Has it dawned on you YET that maybe Prince didn't care enough to stop this legal action?
With his money and lawyers, and his stubborn little self, I'm sure he would have did something before it had got to the point of where it has. My advice, not that you asked for it lol .. but mind your business. I'm sure if Prince wanted your or any other fans help he would have asked for it wink
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****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

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Reply #42 posted 07/08/06 10:46am

SexyBeautifulO
ne

RockNRoll said:

Synergy said:



I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

Or am I just evil? lol lol lol




No, you're not evil... maybe just bored lol



Synergy, you have got to be kidding right? This is a joke?


Has it dawned on you YET that maybe Prince didn't care enough to stop this legal action?
With his money and lawyers, and his stubborn little self, I'm sure he would have did something before it had got to the point of where it has. My advice, not that you asked for it lol .. but mind your business. I'm sure if Prince wanted your or any other fans help he would have asked for it wink
[Edited 7/8/06 9:49am]



Besides...I've given Prince enough money over the years to know damn well he can afford to fight long and hard on his own, if that's what he chooses to do. But knowing Prince (yeah, I've given him enough money to feel like I know him, too) he's got some clever little trick up his well tailored sleeve that'll have the club back rocking and rolling in no time. Patience y'all...it really is a virtue!
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Reply #43 posted 07/08/06 11:15am

SlamGlam

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I say we let them know how we feel

Offices

NPG has offices worldwide. Our principal publishing offices are in London, Basingstoke (UK) and New York.
London

The Macmillan Building, 4 Crinan Street

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TEL: +44 (0) 20 7833 4000

FAX: +44 (0) 20 7843 4596/7

Principal departments:

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Principal departments:

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TEL: +1 212 726 9200

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Reply #44 posted 07/08/06 11:36am

RockNRoll

SlamGlam said:

I say we let them know how we feel





I doubt they really care lol

If they don't care what your all mighty god Prince feels, they don't care what you "feel". .. sorry to be the one to break it to you smile


I think if they cared, they wouldn't have went so far to have had the NPGMC shut down.
Who knows? Maybe they lurked from time to time and felt they were doing some of you a favor. lol
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

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Reply #45 posted 07/08/06 11:40am

SlamGlam

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i do not know? maybe a few hundread emails a day will at least bug them some?

RockNRoll said:

SlamGlam said:

I say we let them know how we feel





I doubt they really care lol

If they don't care what your all mighty god Prince feels, they don't care what you "feel". .. sorry to be the one to break it to you smile


I think if they cared, they wouldn't have went so far to have had the NPGMC shut down.
Who knows? Maybe they lurked from time to time and felt they were doing some of you a favor. lol
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Reply #46 posted 07/08/06 11:42am

SlamGlam

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RockNRoll said:



If they don't care what your all mighty god Prince feels,


wtf? prince is hardly my god. i just think it is lame of this Nature group to do this.. and as some are spending so much time talking about it here... might as well send some emails and make some calls at least then they will be ticked off a bit too!

just as long as we do not break the law. it is prfectly legal to send an email and a phone call each day to any or all of them to let them know it is bunk
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Reply #47 posted 07/08/06 11:45am

RockNRoll

SlamGlam said:

i do not know? maybe a few hundread emails a day will at least bug them some?

RockNRoll said:




I doubt they really care lol

If they don't care what your all mighty god Prince feels, they don't care what you "feel". .. sorry to be the one to break it to you smile


I think if they cared, they wouldn't have went so far to have had the NPGMC shut down.
Who knows? Maybe they lurked from time to time and felt they were doing some of you a favor. lol




Honestly, what makes you think Prince wants your help?
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

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Reply #48 posted 07/08/06 11:58am

RockNRoll

Some of you are still in denial. lol but hey man, I guess it's got to be understandable. You were all banished INTO THE REAL WORLD. And sometimes that real world don't make some of you all happy.

But really, wake up and smell the "purple" coffee.

If Prince wanted your help, he would have requested it at the NPGMC site. He had no problem asking for help with the W/B Lawsuit. Prince has genius thoughts cool


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****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

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Reply #49 posted 07/08/06 12:10pm

SlamGlam

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RockNRoll said:

SlamGlam said:

i do not know? maybe a few hundread emails a day will at least bug them some?





Honestly, what makes you think Prince wants your help?



honestly what makes you think i care what prince wants or thinks....?
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Reply #50 posted 07/08/06 12:12pm

SlamGlam

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RockNRoll said:

Some of you are still in denial. lol but hey man, I guess it's got to be understandable. You were all banished INTO THE REAL WORLD. And sometimes that real world don't make some of you all happy.


brainwashed about what?


But really, wake up and smell the "purple" coffee.


wake up to what?


If Prince wanted your help, he would have requested it at the NPGMC site. He had no problem asking for help with the W/B Lawsuit.


like i said, i do not care what prince wants i just want to let the publishing group i think they suck

Prince has genius thoughts cool


not at buniess...
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Reply #51 posted 07/08/06 12:16pm

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but then again... you do have a great point.. IF this was JUST about the uses of NPG he could just do fast makeover and call it 3121... and just take out all the NPG references.
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Reply #52 posted 07/08/06 12:49pm

RockNRoll

SlamGlam said:

but then again... you do have a great point.. IF this was JUST about the uses of NPG he could just do fast makeover and call it 3121... and just take out all the NPG references.




He had many options. He, for some reason, chose to close the website down. Simple as that cool
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Reply #53 posted 07/08/06 12:52pm

SlamGlam

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RockNRoll said:

SlamGlam said:

but then again... you do have a great point.. IF this was JUST about the uses of NPG he could just do fast makeover and call it 3121... and just take out all the NPG references.




He had many options. He, for some reason, chose to close the website down. Simple as that cool



yeah but you do have to admit the timing was convent
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Reply #54 posted 07/08/06 1:53pm

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First of all, We have always *lived* in the real world... Stop the stupid, Sheep following their master shit, it's getting old... and tired. U don't know me... or else U'd know that I am no one's sheep, understand?

Prince is not a GOD, he is a Man... yes, there is MORE 2 the story - but if U took 2 seconds 2 read all that I put up, U will see that this is far more than a club. This could affect the NPG label eventually.

And maybe Prince is just dang tired of fighting people's stupid assinine lawsuits and he will go retire somewhere, but the thing is that whatever music would have,or has been published under the banner of "NPG" could b caput.

I have never seen such bitterness... and ppl thought those of us that played in the Member's Connection were screwy? Puh-leese!

Hey, I am not talking about a million member march - I am talking about giving a company a little hell 4 a minute... I am talking that MORE than likely the NPGMC probably had no choice 2 close the minute that letter was in their hands or face even bigger problems legally set forth in the letter..

GET me? The letter was mailed 2 them late on the eve of a National Holiday 2 force their hand and make them comply without any chance of asking 4 an extension of the use of the name NPG until the date of determination... it's a underhanded trick that A LOT of lawyers will readily admit 2 using.

I mean, Come on... U wanted a reason, U got one - whatever the hell else is going on, as it does NOT apply 2 us, is NONE of our business. And a little FYI, Most of us r out here in the real world working 2 make peoples lives BETTER - and that says a wrong is a WRONG. I don't care who the person wronged is... and a truly altruistic person doesn't distinguish between them.

Bottom line, what should any of the members' care what Prince or his legal team would like us 2 do? It's not about HIM - it's about the Music and the access that was taken away from us over a frivilous battle. Else, U explain 2 me how a confused affiliation with an International Superstar's Trademark hurts that business? We're talking an International superstar that is a vegetarian and has won awards 4 honoring nature and championing causes that r against cruelty 2 animals and pro-environment somehow being a detriment 2 A NATURE Publication, explain that?

His hands, the NPGMC's hands were tied - they had 2 shut down on reciept of that letter... and more than likely, advised by counsel, were told 2 NOT say EXACTLY what was going on due 2 pending litigation, thus the new direction BS.
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
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Reply #55 posted 07/08/06 2:22pm

Handclapsfinga
snapz

it's nice to see peoples' concern over all this, but frankly, there are far worse things to put a stop to and take a stand for than a petty-assed lawsuit being aimed at a pop star.
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Reply #56 posted 07/08/06 3:10pm

wonder505

Synergy said:

but the thing is that whatever music would have,or has been published under the banner of "NPG" could b caput.


Okay, now that part bothers me. You mean if they won, anything associated with NPG, including the music is----GONE?

Yes, I know there's a lot going on in the world, but that should bother any fan.

I don't feel too comfortable with the lawsuit on our part, only because I don't know how Prince and his camp feel about it. Its tough because as you say, they probably can't speak about it.

I'm more inclined to do a letter writing campaign to the HIM. NOT HATE MAIL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. Just letting them know much the music means to us and the negative impact it may have. But then again, I wish I knew how Prince would feel about that. Maybe he has a plan don't want us to but in.

***Sigh**** sad
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Reply #57 posted 07/08/06 3:43pm

sacredwarrior

" Arrogant man thinks he can break the rules and get away with it. This is a Fools Game "


" Any Living Cell that fails to be self-cleansing - dies of its own pollution "



" Any specie that fails to evolve - is doomed to extinction "




" We don't use money in Heaven on Earth "





welcome to the dawn cool


heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
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Reply #58 posted 07/08/06 3:54pm

wonder505

sacredwarrior said:

" Arrogant man thinks he can break the rules and get away with it. This is a Fools Game "


" Any Living Cell that fails to be self-cleansing - dies of its own pollution "



" Any specie that fails to evolve - is doomed to extinction "




" We don't use money in Heaven on Earth "





welcome to the dawn cool


heart


Umm, the things you list are daily challenges that every human being on earth goes through, don't be a hyprocrite, that means you too.
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Reply #59 posted 07/08/06 4:03pm

Handclapsfinga
snapz

wonder505 said:

sacredwarrior said:

" Arrogant man thinks he can break the rules and get away with it. This is a Fools Game "


" Any Living Cell that fails to be self-cleansing - dies of its own pollution "



" Any specie that fails to evolve - is doomed to extinction "




" We don't use money in Heaven on Earth "





welcome to the dawn cool


heart


Umm, the things you list are daily challenges that every human being on earth goes through, don't be a hyprocrite, that means you too.
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bomb
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