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Thread started 07/07/06 2:25pm

Synergy

NPGMC shut down during trademark fight... that's the truth.

NPGMC was shut down the day that an opposition 2 it's trademark was filed. The opposing company HM Publishing filed trademark 4 everything under the sun... AFTER NPGMC and NPG records filed 4 trademark twice. It hasn't been said, but the club shut down the day the opposition was filed.


[Link http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91171672&pty=OPP&eno=1 - luv4u]
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #1 posted 07/07/06 2:28pm

Synergy

I am just posting quotes of what I researched and posted on another website, read 4 yourself.

HM Publishing, NPG - filed 4 their trademark AFTER NPG Music Club, who first tried filing in 1993 - according 2 the trademark office. But if U look at the scope of the HM filing, It covers EVERYTHING that Prince basically sells - or might sell.

Word Mark NPG
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Media bearing sound and/or video and/or data and/or information; magnetic recordings; optical recordings; magneto-optical recordings; digital recordings; electronic books; electronic publications (downloadable) provided on-line from databases or the Internet; multi-media discs and publications; multi-media recordings; pre-recorded CD-ROMs, compact discs, laser-readable discs, video discs and publications, audio tape cassettes, video tape cassettes, floppy disks, sound recordings; digital video discs (DVD); computer software; computer software supplied from the Internet; computer programs; parts and fittings for all of the aforesaid goods
Standard Characters Claimed

Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78826402
Filing Date March 1, 2006
Current Filing Basis 44D
Original Filing Basis 44D
Owner (APPLICANT) HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY UNITED KINGDOM HOUNDMILLS BASINGSTOKE ENGLAND RG21 6XS
Attorney of Record GARY J. PITZER
Priority Date September 2, 2005
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #2 posted 07/07/06 2:30pm

funkydiva

Synergy said:

I am just posting quotes of what I researched and posted on another website, read 4 yourself.

HM Publishing, NPG - filed 4 their trademark AFTER NPG Music Club, who first tried filing in 1993 - according 2 the trademark office. But if U look at the scope of the HM filing, It covers EVERYTHING that Prince basically sells - or might sell.

Word Mark NPG
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Media bearing sound and/or video and/or data and/or information; magnetic recordings; optical recordings; magneto-optical recordings; digital recordings; electronic books; electronic publications (downloadable) provided on-line from databases or the Internet; multi-media discs and publications; multi-media recordings; pre-recorded CD-ROMs, compact discs, laser-readable discs, video discs and publications, audio tape cassettes, video tape cassettes, floppy disks, sound recordings; digital video discs (DVD); computer software; computer software supplied from the Internet; computer programs; parts and fittings for all of the aforesaid goods
Standard Characters Claimed

Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78826402
Filing Date March 1, 2006
Current Filing Basis 44D
Original Filing Basis 44D
Owner (APPLICANT) HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY UNITED KINGDOM HOUNDMILLS BASINGSTOKE ENGLAND RG21 6XS
Attorney of Record GARY J. PITZER
Priority Date September 2, 2005
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE



Yup... probably...

I posted this yesterday on the NPG folks check in thread...

(words only): NPG MUSIC CLUB

Standard Character claim: No

Current Status: An opposition is now pending at the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board.

Date of Status: 2006-07-03..... hmmmmm..
Reply #3 posted 07/07/06 2:30pm

Synergy

Here is another app. 4 trademark by HM Publishing that again, is filed AFTER the NPG, filing 4 everything under the sun.

Word Mark NPG
Goods and Services IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S: Printed matter; printed publications; books; dictionaries; publications; magazines; newsletters; newspapers; periodicals; journals; catalogues; manuals; pamphlets; reference books; leaflets; posters; stationary; labels; instructional and teaching materials, apparatus and instruments; book covers; book marks; drawings; paintings; photographs; prints; pictures; parts and fittings for all of the aforesaid goods
Standard Characters Claimed

Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78826415
Filing Date March 1, 2006
Current Filing Basis 44D
Original Filing Basis 44D
Owner (APPLICANT) HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED LTD LIAB CO UNITED KINGDOM HOUNDMILLS BASINGSTOKE ENGLAND RG21 6XS
Attorney of Record GARY J. PITZER
Priority Date September 2, 2005
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #4 posted 07/07/06 2:31pm

Synergy

Here they r trademarking every 4m of marketing:

Word Mark NPG
Goods and Services IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: The bringing together for the benefit of others, of a variety of goods, enabling customers to conveniently view and purchase those goods in a book store; the bringing together for the benefit of others, of a variety of goods, enabling customers to conveniently view and purchase those goods from a publications catalogue by mail order or by means of telecommunications
Standard Characters Claimed

Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78826426
Filing Date March 1, 2006
Current Filing Basis 44D
Original Filing Basis 44D
Owner (APPLICANT) HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED LTD LIAB CO UNITED KINGDOM HOUNDMILLS BASINGSTOKE ENGLAND RG21 6XS
Attorney of Record GARY J. PITZER
Priority Date September 2, 2005
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE[/color]
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #5 posted 07/07/06 2:33pm

Synergy

Here we have More:

Word Mark NPG
Goods and Services IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Education services; entertainment services; publishing services; publication of books, magazines; electronic publishing; multi-media publishing; organizing and arranging of conferences
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78826436
Filing Date March 1, 2006
Current Filing Basis 44D
Original Filing Basis 44D
Owner (APPLICANT) HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED LTD LIAB CO UNITED KINGDOM HOUNDMILLS BASINGSTOKE ENGLAND RG21 6XS
Attorney of Record GARY J. PITZER
Priority Date September 2, 2005
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #6 posted 07/07/06 2:34pm

funkydiva

Synergy said:

Here they r trademarking every 4m of marketing:

Word Mark NPG
Goods and Services IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: The bringing together for the benefit of others, of a variety of goods, enabling customers to conveniently view and purchase those goods in a book store; the bringing together for the benefit of others, of a variety of goods, enabling customers to conveniently view and purchase those goods from a publications catalogue by mail order or by means of telecommunications
Standard Characters Claimed

Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78826426
Filing Date March 1, 2006
Current Filing Basis 44D
Original Filing Basis 44D
Owner (APPLICANT) HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED LTD LIAB CO UNITED KINGDOM HOUNDMILLS BASINGSTOKE ENGLAND RG21 6XS
Attorney of Record GARY J. PITZER
Priority Date September 2, 2005
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE[/color]




It also looks as if 3121 is

words only): 3121

Standard Character claim: Yes

Current Status: A non-final refusal of the Statement of Use filed for this application has been mailed.

Date of Status: 2006-05-19


words only): 3121

Standard Character claim: Yes

Current Status: Newly filed application, not yet assigned to an examining attorney.

Date of Status: 2006-03-29
[Edited 7/7/06 14:36pm]
Reply #7 posted 07/07/06 2:37pm

Synergy

NPG Records and the NPG Music Club reapplied 4 trademarks in February 2005 with new counsel, all petitions started in 1993 were abandoned - I am thinking someone dropped the ball on that one BIG TIME.

Word Mark NPG MUSIC CLUB
Goods and Services IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: online retail store services featuring clothing, jewelry, wearable accessories, posters, concert programs, books, music recordings, video recordings, and related merchandise; promoting the sale of goods and services of others through the distribution of information online and promotional contests.
FIRST USE: 20000626. (june 26, 2000) FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20010214 (january 14, 2001)

IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: providing online information in the field of music and entertainment. FIRST USE: 20000626. (june 26, 2000) FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20010214 (february 14, 2001)
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78586515
Filing Date March 14, 2005


Word Mark NPG RECORDS
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: sound recordings, namely phonograph records, pre-recorded audio tapes, pre-recorded CD's, and digital audio files featuring vocal and musical performances; video recordings, namely pre-recorded video cassettes, pre-recorded DVD's and digital video files featuring vocal and musical performances. FIRST USE: 19930721. (july 21, 1993) FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19930721 (july 21, 1993)


IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: entertainment services, namely, live musical and vocal performances by a musical group. FIRST USE: 19930721. (july 21, 1993) FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19930721 (july 21, 1993)
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78576598
Filing Date February 28, 2005


Word Mark NPG MUSIC CLUB
Goods and Services IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: online retail store services featuring clothing, jewelry, wearable accessories, posters, concert programs, books, music recordings, video recordings, and related merchandise; promoting the sale of goods and services of others through the distribution of information online and promotional contests. FIRST USE: 20000626. (june 26, 2000) FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20010214 (februay 14, 2001)

IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: providing online information in the field of music and entertainment. FIRST USE: 20000626. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20010214
Mark Drawing Code (5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78586548
Filing Date March 14, 2005


Word Mark NPG RECORDS
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: sound recordings, namely records, tapes, cds, and downloadable computer audio files of vocal and musical performances; video recordings, namely vhs cassettes, dvds and downloadable computer video files of vocal and musical performances. FIRST USE: 19971231. (december 31, 1997) FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19971231 (december 31, 1997)
Mark Drawing Code (5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78576551
Filing Date February 28, 2005
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #8 posted 07/07/06 2:39pm

Synergy

Word Mark NPG RECORDS
Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 041. US 107. G & S: entertainment services; namely, providing a series of live theatrical performances featuring musical, dance, dramatic, and comedic presentations; film, video, and television production and distribution services; entertainment services; namely, live performances by a musical group
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Design Search Code
Serial Number 74458350
Filing Date November 15, 1993
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition September 27, 1994
Owner (APPLICANT) Paisley Park Enterprises CORPORATION MINNESOTA 7801 Audubon Road Chanhassen MINNESOTA 55317
Attorney of Record Avis Frazier-Thomas
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "RECORDS" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Abandonment Date December 21, 1995




Word Mark NPG RECORDS
Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 009. US 036. G & S: series of sound recordings; namely, phonograph records, pre-recorded compact discs, and videos featuring music and entertainment
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Design Search Code
Serial Number 74458349
Filing Date November 15, 1993
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition September 20, 1994
Owner (APPLICANT) Paisley Park Enterprises CORPORATION MINNESOTA 7801 Audubon Road Chanhassen MINNESOTA 55317
Attorney of Record Avis Frazier-Thomas
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "RECORDS" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Abandonment Date December 28, 1995
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #9 posted 07/07/06 3:08pm

sacredwarrior

and the lesson iz

never fuck with a smart woman lol


" he would have done better to remain my guest "


heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #10 posted 07/07/06 3:23pm

Synergy

sacredwarrior said:

and the lesson iz

never fuck with a smart woman lol


" he would have done better to remain my guest "


heart

lol lol lol lol lol lol
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #11 posted 07/07/06 3:53pm

HoneymoonXpress

karma, anyone???
Reply #12 posted 07/07/06 3:56pm

sacredwarrior

HoneymoonXpress said:

karma, anyone???


wink
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #13 posted 07/07/06 4:37pm

Synergy

I have an idea on what we could do 2 help Prince... but I doubt that anyone here would b interested, am I correct?
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #14 posted 07/07/06 4:45pm

wonder505

Synergy said:

I have an idea on what we could do 2 help Prince... but I doubt that anyone here would b interested, am I correct?


You don't like generalizations about the Club right? Don't like it here either.

Ofcourse I'm interested and want to help! Whatcha got.
[Edited 7/7/06 16:46pm]
Reply #15 posted 07/07/06 5:03pm

Synergy

lol! I wasn't bad mouthing, I was baiting - begging U 2 bite and come help us... I am discussing my idea now and when I get it sound I will fill y'all in.

BTW, any lawyers in the house? Contact me, please?

Thank YOU!
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #16 posted 07/07/06 7:05pm

Tom

It was time for Prince to get rid of that silly name anyhow, its beyond dated.
Reply #17 posted 07/07/06 7:09pm

Handclapsfingasnapz

hah! prince

pwned!!!!!
Reply #18 posted 07/07/06 7:17pm

purplecam

Tom said:

It was time for Prince to get rid of that silly name anyhow, its beyond dated.

I have to agree. it's overstayed it's welcome for about 10 years now. it's time for a change.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
Reply #19 posted 07/07/06 7:19pm

Handclapsfingasnapz

purplecam said:

Tom said:

It was time for Prince to get rid of that silly name anyhow, its beyond dated.

I have to agree. it's overstayed it's welcome for about 10 years now. it's time for a change.

too true.
Reply #20 posted 07/07/06 7:22pm

funkydiva

Mailed: July 3, 2006
Opposition No 91171672
Serial No. 78586515, 78586548

DAVID G. SCHELZEL
BEST & FLANAGAN LLP
225 S 6TH ST STE 4000
MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55402-4690
dschelzel@bestlaw.com

HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED
v.
Paisley Park Enterprises, Inc.
Gary J. Pitzer
TAROLLI, SUNDHEIM, COVELL & TUMMINO LLP
1300 EAST NINTH STREET SUITE 1700
CLEVELAND, OH 44147
gpitzer@tarolli.com

ESTTA88258
A notice of opposition to the registration sought in the aboveidentified
application has been filed. The notice of opposition can be
viewed and printed at
http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?qs= 91171672
ANSWER IS DUE FORTY DAYS after the transmission date hereof. (See
Trademark Rule 2.196 for expiration date falling on Saturday, Sunday or
a holiday).

Proceedings will be conducted in accordance with the Trademark Rules of
Practice, set forth in Title 37, part 2, of the Code of Federal Regulations.
The parties are reminded of the recent amendments to the Trademark Rules that
affect the rules of practice before the TTAB. See Rules of Practice for
Trademark-Related Filings Under the Madrid Protocol Implementation Act, 68
Fed. R. 55,748 (September 26, 2003) (effective November 2, 2003);
Reorganization of Correspondence and Other Provisions, 68 Fed. Reg. 48,286
(August 13, 2003) (effective September 12, 2003). Notices concerning the
rules changes, as well as the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board Manual of
Procedure (TBMP), are available at www.uspto.gov/web/offices/dcom/ttab/.
The parties are particularly referred to Trademark Rule 2.126
pertaining to the form of submissions. Paper submissions, including
but not limited to exhibits and depositions, not filed in accordance
United States Patent and Trademark Office
Trademark Trial and Appeal Board
P.O. Box 1451
Alexandria, VA 22313-1451
with Trademark Rule 2.126 may not be given consideration or entered
into the case file.
Discovery and testimony periods are set as follows:

Discovery period to open: July 23, 2006
Discovery period to close: January 19, 2007
30-day testimony period for party
in position of plaintiff to close: April 19, 2007
30-day testimony period for party
in position of defendant to close: June 18, 2007
15-day rebuttal testimony period
for plaintiff to close: August 02, 2007
A party must serve on the adverse party a copy of the transcript of any
testimony taken during the party's testimony period, together with
copies of documentary exhibits, within 30 days after completion of the
taking of such testimony. See Trademark Rule 2.l25.
Briefs shall be filed in accordance with Trademark Rule 2.l28(a) and
(b). An oral hearing will be set only upon request filed as provided
by Trademark Rule 2.l29.
NOTE: The Board allows parties to utilize telephone conferences to
discuss or resolve many interlocutory matters that arise in inter
partes cases. See the Official Gazette notice titled “Permanent
Expansion of Telephone Conferencing on Interlocutory Matters in Inter
Partes Cases Before the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board,” 1235 TMOG 68
(June 20, 2000). The notice is available at http://www.uspto.gov.
Interlocutory matters which the Board agrees to discuss or decide by
phone conference may be decided adversely to any party which fails to
participate.

If the parties to this proceeding are also parties to other Board
proceedings involving related marks or, during the pendency of this
proceeding, they become parties to such proceedings, they should notify
the Board immediately, so that the Board can consider consolidation of
proceedings.

New Developments at the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board
TTAB forms for electronic filing of extensions of time to oppose, notices of
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Reply #21 posted 07/07/06 8:52pm

sosgemini

wow, *thats* what this is all about? once again, why not just come clean?


oh wait, that would have been too easy.

sigh
Space for sale...
Reply #22 posted 07/07/06 9:09pm

avah12

I wonder if this explains why the gray NPGMC logo has disappeared from the blank website, leaving just a black void now.
Reply #23 posted 07/07/06 9:35pm

Synergy

avah12 said:

I wonder if this explains why the gray NPGMC logo has disappeared from the blank website, leaving just a black void now.


Yes, it more than likely is the reason, because according 2 the above letter sent 2 the lawyers representing Prince and PPE, the "NPG" more than likely cannot b used until the very least August 2, 2007 - when all testimony and Discovery must b submitted. I seriously doubt that it would b that soon as they would have 2 await a judgement from the governing committee.

I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

So, is this possible? Or am I just evil? lol lol lol

Oh and U're welcome on thanks 4 my research... Cool
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #24 posted 07/07/06 9:38pm

Synergy

sosgemini said:

wow, *thats* what this is all about? once again, why not just come clean?


oh wait, that would have been too easy.

sigh


Maybe he thought that *we* would think he was an incompentent business man? Or that it wouldn't have gone this far and it would have been gone b4 having 2 close the club? There r a million reasons. neutral
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #25 posted 07/07/06 9:48pm

Handclapsfingasnapz

Synergy said:

sosgemini said:

wow, *thats* what this is all about? once again, why not just come clean?


oh wait, that would have been too easy.

sigh


Maybe he thought that *we* would think he was an incompentent business man? Or that it wouldn't have gone this far and it would have been gone b4 having 2 close the club? There r a million reasons. neutral

we think? change that--we know that he's an incompetent businessman. if he weren't, the majority of us definitely wouldn't be bitching about stuff he's done in the past.
Reply #26 posted 07/07/06 9:56pm

Synergy

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Synergy said:



Maybe he thought that *we* would think he was an incompentent business man? Or that it wouldn't have gone this far and it would have been gone b4 having 2 close the club? There r a million reasons. neutral

we think? change that--we know that he's an incompetent businessman. if he weren't, the majority of us definitely wouldn't be bitching about stuff he's done in the past.


zipped zipped zipped zipped zipped
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #27 posted 07/07/06 10:12pm

CandaceS

For anyone who's interested, there's lots more discussion about this on a thread at HQ! wink

http://www.housequake.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69364
"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
Reply #28 posted 07/07/06 10:13pm

sacredwarrior

so who gets the webby award now ? lol

heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #29 posted 07/07/06 10:14pm

sosgemini

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Synergy said:



Maybe he thought that *we* would think he was an incompentent business man? Or that it wouldn't have gone this far and it would have been gone b4 having 2 close the club? There r a million reasons. neutral

we think? change that--we know that he's an incompetent businessman. if he weren't, the majority of us definitely wouldn't be bitching about stuff he's done in the past.



falloff

all he had to say was that due to pending letigation all future prince corresponandance would be handled via 3121...


but nooooo....he had to close things down without any warning or explenation.
Space for sale...
Reply #30 posted 07/07/06 10:15pm

Handclapsfingasnapz

sosgemini said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


we think? change that--we know that he's an incompetent businessman. if he weren't, the majority of us definitely wouldn't be bitching about stuff he's done in the past.



falloff

all he had to say was that due to pending letigation all future prince corresponandance would be handled via 3121...


but nooooo....he had to close things down without any warning or explenation.

e-fucking-xactly! falloff
Reply #31 posted 07/07/06 10:17pm

sacredwarrior

sosgemini said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


we think? change that--we know that he's an incompetent businessman. if he weren't, the majority of us definitely wouldn't be bitching about stuff he's done in the past.



falloff

all he had to say was that due to pending letigation all future prince corresponandance would be handled via 3121...


but nooooo....he had to close things down without any warning or explenation.



yeah so 'lets all go help the callous prick! '


Synergy...

wakey wakey love


heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #32 posted 07/07/06 11:31pm

Snap

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

sosgemini said:




falloff

all he had to say was that due to pending letigation all future prince corresponandance would be handled via 3121...


but nooooo....he had to close things down without any warning or explenation.

e-fucking-xactly! falloff


this is what irritates me more than anything
always these childish games... why?

and when did "NPG" ever convey the Lovesexy vibe from which those words were first birthed?
abc'ya npg
Reply #33 posted 07/08/06 12:26am

Shavanti

U want the TRUTH...Here is the TRUTH! U can choose 2 believe it or not!


This is what the e-mail from NPG says....


Tough Shit that I pulled the plug on the Club!

Tough Shit that I didn't give u all any notice!

Tough Shit that U didn't get the e-mail from US as there NO LONGER is an US!

Tough Shit that U didn't get ur downloads...U should have already bought them!

Tough Shit that U NOW want Merchandise!....U should have already bought it!

Tough Shit that U will not know if I'm going 2 go on tour and if I do U will have 2 pay (a higher price) Damn, I never told the Club what I was doing anyways. It always seemed 2 get leaked out on the "un-authorized" sites anyways, so why do I need 2 have a Club?

Are U REALLY gunna believe that this is a "hiatus"...PLEAZEEEEE read between the lines!


It's all there U just have 2 want 2 see the TRUTH!

And DON'T blame this on the folx @ NPG as they have a boss that decides ALL of these things and only HE makes the decisions and his name is PRINCE. So if u want 2 blame...blame him! And if U think he really gives a rat's ass about what U think ur livin in a dream world...just like him!
Reply #34 posted 07/08/06 1:49am

Synergy

Whatever ppl, just passing on the news... do what U like with it.
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #35 posted 07/08/06 4:19am

purplefrank

HM Publishers Holding Ltd buy into india...

MACMILLAN INDIA LTD. H M PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LTD. 04-May-98 03-Jun-98 564312 20 220 CONSOLIDATION OF HOLDINGS 70.98 IND GLOBAL FINANCIAL TRUST LTD MONDKAR COMPUTERS PVT. LTD.

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:y0Vp2J4FyjQJ:www.sebi.gov.in/takeover/takeoverrep9899.html+HM+PUBLISHERS+HOLDINGS+LIMITED&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1
[Edited 7/8/06 4:27am]
Reply #36 posted 07/08/06 4:26am

purplefrank

This is their companies registered public address (Oh they're MacMilan Publishers!)

H M Publishers Holdings Ltd. Brunel Road Houndmills Basingstoke RG21 6XS Tel: 01256-329242

They are one of the Top 500 Companies in Europe - Largest Companies in UK:

http://www.top500.de/g0031233.htm

And have heavily invested in Macmillian Publishers in India

http://www.macmillanindia.com/Shareholding_Patternason_31stDecember2005.doc

And have sued for copyright before online:

http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/decisions/html/2005/d2005-0741.html

and again:

http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/decisions/html/2002/d2002-0658.html
Reply #37 posted 07/08/06 4:35am

coketa

Karma is something else.Remember all the times Prince has sued other people?And why Lie?"You aint gotta lie craig"
Reply #38 posted 07/08/06 7:18am

babynoz

Synergy said:

avah12 said:

I wonder if this explains why the gray NPGMC logo has disappeared from the blank website, leaving just a black void now.


Yes, it more than likely is the reason, because according 2 the above letter sent 2 the lawyers representing Prince and PPE, the "NPG" more than likely cannot b used until the very least August 2, 2007 - when all testimony and Discovery must b submitted. I seriously doubt that it would b that soon as they would have 2 await a judgement from the governing committee.

I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

So, is this possible? Or am I just evil? lol lol lol

Oh and U're welcome on thanks 4 my research... Cool




Hi Syn,

I gotta hand it to you and the others for this research. Impressive.

A quick suggestion about your idea. That big heart of yours is in the right place, but we know how P is. You said yourself that this probably isn't the only reason for the shutdown. Since none of us is in personal contact with Prince, before you rally the troops I would caution you to contact his legal representation to determine if he would welcome the type of action you propose. The fact is, we have no idea what else may be going on and a shot in the dark like this, however well intended, could very well backfire.



Johnny Cochran would be proud of you, girl! cool
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
Reply #39 posted 07/08/06 7:38am

gemini13

sosgemini said:

wow, *thats* what this is all about? once again, why not just come clean?


oh wait, that would have been too easy.

sigh


This is the reason my "fandom" has waned in the past. Prince is secretive and deceptive, which in my eyes makes him sort of a pussy. confused
Reply #40 posted 07/08/06 7:47am

sosgemini

Synergy said:

avah12 said:

I wonder if this explains why the gray NPGMC logo has disappeared from the blank website, leaving just a black void now.


Yes, it more than likely is the reason, because according 2 the above letter sent 2 the lawyers representing Prince and PPE, the "NPG" more than likely cannot b used until the very least August 2, 2007 - when all testimony and Discovery must b submitted. I seriously doubt that it would b that soon as they would have 2 await a judgement from the governing committee.

I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

So, is this possible? Or am I just evil? lol lol lol

Oh and U're welcome on thanks 4 my research... Cool



you really want folks to consider filing a class action lawsuit? with soo much horrors going on in this world you want folks to consider a class action lawsuit over a company that has legal rights to protect their trademark?
Space for sale...
Reply #41 posted 07/08/06 9:44am

RockNRoll

Synergy said:



I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

Or am I just evil? lol lol lol




No, you're not evil... maybe just bored lol



Synergy, you have got to be kidding right? This is a joke?


Has it dawned on you YET that maybe Prince didn't care enough to stop this legal action?
With his money and lawyers, and his stubborn little self, I'm sure he would have did something before it had got to the point of where it has. My advice, not that you asked for it lol .. but mind your business. I'm sure if Prince wanted your or any other fans help he would have asked for it wink
[Edited 7/8/06 9:49am]
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #42 posted 07/08/06 10:46am

SexyBeautifulOne

RockNRoll said:

Synergy said:



I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

Or am I just evil? lol lol lol




No, you're not evil... maybe just bored lol



Synergy, you have got to be kidding right? This is a joke?


Has it dawned on you YET that maybe Prince didn't care enough to stop this legal action?
With his money and lawyers, and his stubborn little self, I'm sure he would have did something before it had got to the point of where it has. My advice, not that you asked for it lol .. but mind your business. I'm sure if Prince wanted your or any other fans help he would have asked for it wink
[Edited 7/8/06 9:49am]



Besides...I've given Prince enough money over the years to know damn well he can afford to fight long and hard on his own, if that's what he chooses to do. But knowing Prince (yeah, I've given him enough money to feel like I know him, too) he's got some clever little trick up his well tailored sleeve that'll have the club back rocking and rolling in no time. Patience y'all...it really is a virtue!
Reply #43 posted 07/08/06 11:15am

SlamGlam

I say we let them know how we feel

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Reply #44 posted 07/08/06 11:36am

RockNRoll

SlamGlam said:

I say we let them know how we feel





I doubt they really care lol

If they don't care what your all mighty god Prince feels, they don't care what you "feel". .. sorry to be the one to break it to you smile


I think if they cared, they wouldn't have went so far to have had the NPGMC shut down.
Who knows? Maybe they lurked from time to time and felt they were doing some of you a favor. lol
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #45 posted 07/08/06 11:40am

SlamGlam

i do not know? maybe a few hundread emails a day will at least bug them some?

RockNRoll said:

SlamGlam said:

I say we let them know how we feel





I doubt they really care lol

If they don't care what your all mighty god Prince feels, they don't care what you "feel". .. sorry to be the one to break it to you smile


I think if they cared, they wouldn't have went so far to have had the NPGMC shut down.
Who knows? Maybe they lurked from time to time and felt they were doing some of you a favor. lol
Reply #46 posted 07/08/06 11:42am

SlamGlam

RockNRoll said:



If they don't care what your all mighty god Prince feels,


wtf? prince is hardly my god. i just think it is lame of this Nature group to do this.. and as some are spending so much time talking about it here... might as well send some emails and make some calls at least then they will be ticked off a bit too!

just as long as we do not break the law. it is prfectly legal to send an email and a phone call each day to any or all of them to let them know it is bunk
Reply #47 posted 07/08/06 11:45am

RockNRoll

SlamGlam said:

i do not know? maybe a few hundread emails a day will at least bug them some?

RockNRoll said:




I doubt they really care lol

If they don't care what your all mighty god Prince feels, they don't care what you "feel". .. sorry to be the one to break it to you smile


I think if they cared, they wouldn't have went so far to have had the NPGMC shut down.
Who knows? Maybe they lurked from time to time and felt they were doing some of you a favor. lol




Honestly, what makes you think Prince wants your help?
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #48 posted 07/08/06 11:58am

RockNRoll

Some of you are still in denial. lol but hey man, I guess it's got to be understandable. You were all banished INTO THE REAL WORLD. And sometimes that real world don't make some of you all happy.

But really, wake up and smell the "purple" coffee.

If Prince wanted your help, he would have requested it at the NPGMC site. He had no problem asking for help with the W/B Lawsuit. Prince has genius thoughts cool


.
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #49 posted 07/08/06 12:10pm

SlamGlam

RockNRoll said:

SlamGlam said:

i do not know? maybe a few hundread emails a day will at least bug them some?





Honestly, what makes you think Prince wants your help?



honestly what makes you think i care what prince wants or thinks....?
Reply #50 posted 07/08/06 12:12pm

SlamGlam

RockNRoll said:

Some of you are still in denial. lol but hey man, I guess it's got to be understandable. You were all banished INTO THE REAL WORLD. And sometimes that real world don't make some of you all happy.


brainwashed about what?


But really, wake up and smell the "purple" coffee.


wake up to what?


If Prince wanted your help, he would have requested it at the NPGMC site. He had no problem asking for help with the W/B Lawsuit.


like i said, i do not care what prince wants i just want to let the publishing group i think they suck

Prince has genius thoughts cool


not at buniess...
Reply #51 posted 07/08/06 12:16pm

SlamGlam

but then again... you do have a great point.. IF this was JUST about the uses of NPG he could just do fast makeover and call it 3121... and just take out all the NPG references.
Reply #52 posted 07/08/06 12:49pm

RockNRoll

SlamGlam said:

but then again... you do have a great point.. IF this was JUST about the uses of NPG he could just do fast makeover and call it 3121... and just take out all the NPG references.




He had many options. He, for some reason, chose to close the website down. Simple as that cool
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #53 posted 07/08/06 12:52pm

SlamGlam

RockNRoll said:

SlamGlam said:

but then again... you do have a great point.. IF this was JUST about the uses of NPG he could just do fast makeover and call it 3121... and just take out all the NPG references.




He had many options. He, for some reason, chose to close the website down. Simple as that cool



yeah but you do have to admit the timing was convent
Reply #54 posted 07/08/06 1:53pm

Synergy

First of all, We have always *lived* in the real world... Stop the stupid, Sheep following their master shit, it's getting old... and tired. U don't know me... or else U'd know that I am no one's sheep, understand?

Prince is not a GOD, he is a Man... yes, there is MORE 2 the story - but if U took 2 seconds 2 read all that I put up, U will see that this is far more than a club. This could affect the NPG label eventually.

And maybe Prince is just dang tired of fighting people's stupid assinine lawsuits and he will go retire somewhere, but the thing is that whatever music would have,or has been published under the banner of "NPG" could b caput.

I have never seen such bitterness... and ppl thought those of us that played in the Member's Connection were screwy? Puh-leese!

Hey, I am not talking about a million member march - I am talking about giving a company a little hell 4 a minute... I am talking that MORE than likely the NPGMC probably had no choice 2 close the minute that letter was in their hands or face even bigger problems legally set forth in the letter..

GET me? The letter was mailed 2 them late on the eve of a National Holiday 2 force their hand and make them comply without any chance of asking 4 an extension of the use of the name NPG until the date of determination... it's a underhanded trick that A LOT of lawyers will readily admit 2 using.

I mean, Come on... U wanted a reason, U got one - whatever the hell else is going on, as it does NOT apply 2 us, is NONE of our business. And a little FYI, Most of us r out here in the real world working 2 make peoples lives BETTER - and that says a wrong is a WRONG. I don't care who the person wronged is... and a truly altruistic person doesn't distinguish between them.

Bottom line, what should any of the members' care what Prince or his legal team would like us 2 do? It's not about HIM - it's about the Music and the access that was taken away from us over a frivilous battle. Else, U explain 2 me how a confused affiliation with an International Superstar's Trademark hurts that business? We're talking an International superstar that is a vegetarian and has won awards 4 honoring nature and championing causes that r against cruelty 2 animals and pro-environment somehow being a detriment 2 A NATURE Publication, explain that?

His hands, the NPGMC's hands were tied - they had 2 shut down on reciept of that letter... and more than likely, advised by counsel, were told 2 NOT say EXACTLY what was going on due 2 pending litigation, thus the new direction BS.
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #55 posted 07/08/06 2:22pm

Handclapsfingasnapz

it's nice to see peoples' concern over all this, but frankly, there are far worse things to put a stop to and take a stand for than a petty-assed lawsuit being aimed at a pop star.
Reply #56 posted 07/08/06 3:10pm

wonder505

Synergy said:

but the thing is that whatever music would have,or has been published under the banner of "NPG" could b caput.


Okay, now that part bothers me. You mean if they won, anything associated with NPG, including the music is----GONE?

Yes, I know there's a lot going on in the world, but that should bother any fan.

I don't feel too comfortable with the lawsuit on our part, only because I don't know how Prince and his camp feel about it. Its tough because as you say, they probably can't speak about it.

I'm more inclined to do a letter writing campaign to the HIM. NOT HATE MAIL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. Just letting them know much the music means to us and the negative impact it may have. But then again, I wish I knew how Prince would feel about that. Maybe he has a plan don't want us to but in.

***Sigh**** sad
Reply #57 posted 07/08/06 3:43pm

sacredwarrior

" Arrogant man thinks he can break the rules and get away with it. This is a Fools Game "


" Any Living Cell that fails to be self-cleansing - dies of its own pollution "



" Any specie that fails to evolve - is doomed to extinction "




" We don't use money in Heaven on Earth "





welcome to the dawn cool


heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #58 posted 07/08/06 3:54pm

wonder505

sacredwarrior said:

" Arrogant man thinks he can break the rules and get away with it. This is a Fools Game "


" Any Living Cell that fails to be self-cleansing - dies of its own pollution "



" Any specie that fails to evolve - is doomed to extinction "




" We don't use money in Heaven on Earth "





welcome to the dawn cool


heart


Umm, the things you list are daily challenges that every human being on earth goes through, don't be a hyprocrite, that means you too.
[Edited 7/8/06 15:54pm]
Reply #59 posted 07/08/06 4:03pm

Handclapsfingasnapz

wonder505 said:

sacredwarrior said:

" Arrogant man thinks he can break the rules and get away with it. This is a Fools Game "


" Any Living Cell that fails to be self-cleansing - dies of its own pollution "



" Any specie that fails to evolve - is doomed to extinction "




" We don't use money in Heaven on Earth "





welcome to the dawn cool


heart


Umm, the things you list are daily challenges that every human being on earth goes through, don't be a hyprocrite, that means you too.
[Edited 7/8/06 15:54pm]




bomb
[Edited 7/8/06 16:04pm]
Reply #60 posted 07/08/06 4:10pm

sosgemini

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

wonder505 said:



Umm, the things you list are daily challenges that every human being on earth goes through, don't be a hyprocrite, that means you too.
[Edited 7/8/06 15:54pm]








am i seeing fred astaire in that gif?
Space for sale...
Reply #61 posted 07/08/06 4:12pm

sacredwarrior

wonder505 said:

sacredwarrior said:

" Arrogant man thinks he can break the rules and get away with it. This is a Fools Game "


" Any Living Cell that fails to be self-cleansing - dies of its own pollution "



" Any specie that fails to evolve - is doomed to extinction "




" We don't use money in Heaven on Earth "





welcome to the dawn cool


heart




Umm, the things you list are daily challenges that every human being on earth goes through, [Edited 7/8/06 15:54pm]





exactly heart


so there's no reason to lash out at me just cuz the quotes are correct

they werent posted as accusations

just facts


heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #62 posted 07/08/06 5:06pm

kidelrich

wow. just wow.
Reply #63 posted 07/08/06 5:20pm

violett

co sign. wow.
heart
vi star
Reply #64 posted 07/08/06 5:28pm

newpowergeneration

I'm New Power Generation until the day I die!!! Fuckers.
Reply #65 posted 07/08/06 5:56pm

loveletter

i seen the cover of the book
the NPG wants to publish

it is gonna MESS YOUR MIND UP

it makes the Bible look PAST TENCE

the lawsuits are just a ploy to keep this book from being released

I Know the title.
Special Thanks 2 Paisley Park and The DownLoad Society
Reply #66 posted 07/08/06 6:04pm

Meloh9

thanks Syn, I had no idea what that man was thinking lol
Reply #67 posted 07/08/06 6:07pm

sacredwarrior

" now spiritual wickedness in highplaces never turned me on..

cuz somethin bout the money and religion mixed "

music
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #68 posted 07/08/06 6:20pm

electriclife

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

it's nice to see peoples' concern over all this, but frankly, there are far worse things to put a stop to and take a stand for than a petty-assed lawsuit being aimed at a pop star.


Yeah, and there is also more to do than to live on this fucking website everyday talking about a certain pop star, and having a cute little sacastic remark for every post that someone makes. The shit gets old.

Flame all you want, I won't be on here to read the dumb shit.
Reply #69 posted 07/08/06 6:22pm

wonder505

electriclife said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

it's nice to see peoples' concern over all this, but frankly, there are far worse things to put a stop to and take a stand for than a petty-assed lawsuit being aimed at a pop star.


Yeah, and there is also more to do than to live on this fucking website everyday talking about a certain pop star, and having a cute little sacastic remark for every post that someone makes. The shit gets old.

Flame all you want, I won't be on here to read the dumb shit.


Did you log on just to write your last message before you leave forever? Unless I misinterpreted.
Reply #70 posted 07/08/06 6:24pm

sacredwarrior

electriclife said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

it's nice to see peoples' concern over all this, but frankly, there are far worse things to put a stop to and take a stand for than a petty-assed lawsuit being aimed at a pop star.


Yeah, and there is also more to do than to live on this fucking website everyday talking about a certain pop star, and having a cute little sacastic remark for every post that someone makes. The shit gets old.

Flame all you want, I won't be on here to read the dumb shit.






Love from Ginger Rogers heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #71 posted 07/08/06 6:40pm

ZsaZsaZsu

Hmmm...look at the case of Apple Computers vs. Apple Records.
Apple Computers won the first case in 1991 because Apple Records thought the "Apple" name and logo infringed on their profits with The Beatles music (which by the way was owned by Michael Jackson and soon be owned by Sony). Now that Apple Computers have the iPod, Apple Records sued Apple Computers again for infringement in the music biz.

Here's a couple links about the Apple trademark case:
http://www.legalzoom.com/articles/article_content/article11325.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/29/technology/29cnd-apple.html?ex=1301288400&en=403106ab148b68c8&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
http://news.findlaw.com/nytimes/docs/apple/aclac100991tmagr.html

Hopefully, something positive will happen with NPGMC. Perhaps a new name and a new site will come...
The one and only Technagirl
Reply #72 posted 07/08/06 6:47pm

pr1nce

Damn, now my "NPG" plate has lost its meaning. 2 bad.
Reply #73 posted 07/08/06 6:48pm

wonder505

pr1nce said:

Damn, now my "NPG" plate has lost its meaning. 2 bad.



Not yet, let's wait and see.
Reply #74 posted 07/08/06 7:24pm

sheeplikeone

coketa said:

"You aint gotta lie craig"



actually its "you aint gots ta lie craig, you aint gots ta lie" lol
Reply #75 posted 07/08/06 7:24pm

jill1999

i wouldn't touch anything unless asked to do so, you never know for sure if you are helping or hurting. i wouldn't want to cause waves and make something civil go bad.

personally i'm happy with little ol' 3121.com myself.
take care,
Jill
[Edited 7/8/06 20:06pm]
"U know, this is funky but I just wish he'd play like he used 2, old scragglyhead."-Prince
Reply #76 posted 07/08/06 7:27pm

Stax

lurking
a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on
Reply #77 posted 07/08/06 7:30pm

HeyJude

Tom said:

It was time for Prince to get rid of that silly name anyhow, its beyond dated.


Agree... letitgo
Reply #78 posted 07/08/06 11:15pm

sacredwarrior

" If u really cared about helpin me, u wouldnt have posted my private biz .
if i'd wanted y'all 2 know, woulda told u myself. "

something he might say ?

shrug

heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #79 posted 07/08/06 11:48pm

pkidwell

now all the complainers can be quiet again....

but they should sue the real NPG...

http://www.npg.org/
Reply #80 posted 07/09/06 12:05am

sacredwarrior

pkidwell said:

now all the complainers can be quiet again....

but they should sue the real NPG...

http://www.npg.org/



fascinating...

especially when u consider some of the words on this page...


negative population growth

zero tolerance



the powers that be dont let no power-trippers or bullies fuck with music

heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #81 posted 07/09/06 12:05am

Fauxie

So the problem is with NPGMC selling books.

I don't know whether it'd honestly be better to fight this or not. If it were me I'd not want to share the name with this company or any of the others using NPG, and wouldn't bother with going through the legal proceedings. 'New Power Generation' was already sounding dated in the early 90s, so why not use this as an opportunity for a new site, a new name and slogan, and some new funky music? He's still Prince, he still has his silly little symbol, and he likes a bit of reinvention and hype. He could weave a whole new story and pseudo-movement/collective. It sounds like something right up his alley to me.
Reply #82 posted 07/09/06 12:31am

amplified0907

sosgemini said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


we think? change that--we know that he's an incompetent businessman. if he weren't, the majority of us definitely wouldn't be bitching about stuff he's done in the past.



falloff

all he had to say was that due to pending letigation all future prince corresponandance would be handled via 3121...


but nooooo....he had to close things down without any warning or explenation.

Man, I go off line for a few weeks and come back to this.....
Reply #83 posted 07/09/06 12:34am

cinnamongirl24

sacredwarrior said:

and the lesson iz

never fuck with a smart woman lol


" he would have done better to remain my guest "


heart


what guy would want to fuck with a smart woman anyway, especially when the smarter they are, the uglier/nerdier they are.
Reply #84 posted 07/09/06 12:36am

CalhounSq

cinnamongirl24 said:

sacredwarrior said:

and the lesson iz

never fuck with a smart woman lol


" he would have done better to remain my guest "


heart


what guy would want to fuck with a smart woman anyway, especially when the smarter they are, the uglier/nerdier they are.


Oh my comfort
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
Reply #85 posted 07/09/06 1:16am

Fauxie

cinnamongirl24 said:

sacredwarrior said:

and the lesson iz

never fuck with a smart woman lol


" he would have done better to remain my guest "


heart


what guy would want to fuck with a smart woman anyway, especially when the smarter they are, the uglier/nerdier they are.


You must be stunning! biggrin

...
[Edited 7/9/06 1:16am]
Reply #86 posted 07/09/06 1:28am

dumbass

wonder505 said:

Synergy said:

but the thing is that whatever music would have,or has been published under the banner of "NPG" could b caput.


Okay, now that part bothers me. You mean if they won, anything associated with NPG, including the music is----GONE?

what are you afraid is going to happen to the music? why would it be gone?
this message brought to you by logic.
Reply #87 posted 07/09/06 2:04am

Fauxie

They should have shut it down TWICE! biggrin
Reply #88 posted 07/09/06 3:06am

sacredwarrior

cinnamongirl24 said:

sacredwarrior said:

and the lesson iz

never fuck with a smart woman lol


" he would have done better to remain my guest "


heart




what guy would want to fuck with a smart woman anyway,



the guy that presumes she's stupid


cool


heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #89 posted 07/09/06 3:15am

gamillah

Attorneys r fuckin snakes.
Reply #90 posted 07/09/06 3:17am

gamillah

PRINCE SHOULD USE THE SITE I ONCE OWNED.... WWW.GAMILLAH.COM
Reply #91 posted 07/09/06 3:19am

CalhounSq

Fauxie said:

cinnamongirl24 said:



what guy would want to fuck with a smart woman anyway, especially when the smarter they are, the uglier/nerdier they are.


You must be stunning! biggrin

...
[Edited 7/9/06 1:16am]


falloff
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
Reply #92 posted 07/09/06 3:27am

Snap

gamillah said:

PRINCE SHOULD USE THE SITE I ONCE OWNED.... WWW.GAMILLAH.COM


not a bad idea really
has a nice charitable l4oa vibe
and it already belongs to mani
but needs a little bit more color
if you know what i mean
or even if you don't

btw, any1 notice that 3121.com is still selling "NPG" merchandise? hmmm
Reply #93 posted 07/09/06 4:10am

ian

I'm not sure... why any of you care about this. It isn't our business, or our problem. Unless someone with real insight into the minefield that is US copyright law can shed some light on the subject, I suggest it isn't worth worrying over. The NPG name has had its day anyway IMO; a change would be nice.

If the NPG Music Club needs to be re-named for legal reasons, it'll take some time to re-brand and re-launch the site. It'd be a pretty large task to do that, which is a likely explanation for the current downtime.

Sit tight. Prince needs a website to run his business - you can bet that they'll get back online in due course. In the meantime, go read a book or get some fresh air!
Reply #94 posted 07/09/06 5:33am

ravewithdawn

The Secret 2 life is 2 have MORE beginnings than Ending!!
[b][Edited 7/9/06 5:33am]

Reply #95 posted 07/09/06 5:42am

FutureShock

ian said:

I'm not sure... why any of you care about this. It isn't our business, or our problem. Unless someone with real insight into the minefield that is US copyright law can shed some light on the subject, I suggest it isn't worth worrying over. The NPG name has had its day anyway IMO; a change would be nice.

If the NPG Music Club needs to be re-named for legal reasons, it'll take some time to re-brand and re-launch the site. It'd be a pretty large task to do that, which is a likely explanation for the current downtime.

Sit tight. Prince needs a website to run his business - you can bet that they'll get back online in due course. In the meantime, go read a book or get some fresh air!


I hear what you're saying but... I still tend to agree with those who say that it would've been the responsible thing to do to simply explain to his fans that there was a legal problem going on and that was the real reason why the club was going on "hiatus". Instead of actually knowing the real reason, we are all left to speculate.

So to question why "any of us would care about this" is kind of a ridiculous statement considering that all of us are undoubtedly fans and will always care about the status of his business. Why? Because it affects how we all interact with Prince and our access to his music who and which we obviously love. This is just so par for the course for Prince and his minions to feed the world a line of bullshit that has virutually nothing to do with the real reason the club has been shut down. For someone that is always harping about "The Truth", Prince is the main person that seems to have the biggest problem with telling the truth.
"You've got to believe in something... why not believe in me?"
Reply #96 posted 07/09/06 5:54am

wonder505

FutureShock said:

ian said:

I'm not sure... why any of you care about this. It isn't our business, or our problem. Unless someone with real insight into the minefield that is US copyright law can shed some light on the subject, I suggest it isn't worth worrying over. The NPG name has had its day anyway IMO; a change would be nice.

If the NPG Music Club needs to be re-named for legal reasons, it'll take some time to re-brand and re-launch the site. It'd be a pretty large task to do that, which is a likely explanation for the current downtime.

Sit tight. Prince needs a website to run his business - you can bet that they'll get back online in due course. In the meantime, go read a book or get some fresh air!


I hear what you're saying but... I still tend to agree with those who say that it would've been the responsible thing to do to simply explain to his fans that there was a legal problem going on and that was the real reason why the club was going on "hiatus". Instead of actually knowing the real reason, we are all left to speculate.

So to question why "any of us would care about this" is kind of a ridiculous statement considering that all of us are undoubtedly fans and will always care about the status of his business. Why? Because it affects how we all interact with Prince and our access to his music who and which we obviously love. This is just so par for the course for Prince and his minions to feed the world a line of bullshit that has virutually nothing to do with the real reason the club has been shut down. For someone that is always harping about "The Truth", Prince is the main person that seems to have the biggest problem with telling the truth.


Has it ever dawned on you that maybe he could not talk about it for legal reasons? Naturally, as fans who support the site feel entitled, but there is so much we don't know on the why. We can only interpret things we find out on our own.
Reply #97 posted 07/09/06 5:59am

Giovanni777

Personal crises can fuel creativity, but mundane legal crises, and unitelligent ignorant criticism can stump it.

In terms of all the catty banter on here about him getting what was coming 2 him, and "OH... he should have told us what was really hapenening", and "couldn't he have given us more notice"...

Y'all R some serious backstabbers. I dedicate the classic O'Jays song 2 U.

If Prince would take my advice on just one thing, I'd tell him 2 stay clear away from the internet. I mean, criticism and opinions R both natural and acceptable, but an artist needs not 2 be reading this kind, if they wish 2 be an open channel 4 creativity.

I thought Synergy's idea was brilliant... it may not need 2 be implemented, but at least there's thought there, instead of whining.

... double PEACE 2 WONDER505 4 the above comment.

Peace.

ALSO... Prince may see this as a sign 4 change. Therefore, he was being honest in saying it was time 2 move on. If U have the perspective that everything happens 4 a reason, then this is more than just a problem or a fight... it's a sign. I was personally tired of NPG anyway.

G.
[Edited 7/9/06 6:00am]
[Edited 7/9/06 6:03am]
"He's a musician's musician..."
Reply #98 posted 07/09/06 6:01am

Spookymuffin

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

hah! prince

pwned!!!!!


falloff

Oh god! evillol
Reply #99 posted 07/09/06 6:42am

Synergy












The Lawsuit States Precedents on the following:

The Lanham Act; Title 15 of the U.S. Code: 15 USC 1052 (sec 2a, 2d)

Lanham (Trademark) Act (15 U.S.C.)


Trademarks registrable on the principal register; concurrent registration

§1052. Trademarks registrable on the principal register; concurrent registration
No trademark by which the goods of the applicant may be distinguished from the goods of others shall be refused registration on the principal register on account of its nature unless it—

Registration should be refused pursuant to Section 2(a) of the Lanham Act, 15 USC 1052 (2a)


(a)
Consists of or comprises immoral, deceptive, or scandalous matter; or matter which may disparage or falsely suggest a connection with persons, living or dead, institutions, beliefs, or national symbols, or bring them into contempt, or disrepute; or a geographical indication which, when used on or in connection with wines or spirits, identifies a place other than the origin of the goods and is first used on or in connection with wines or spirits by the applicant on or after one year after the date on which the WTO Agreement (as defined in section 2(9) of the Uruguay Round Agreements Act [19 USC §3501(9)]) enters into force with respect to the United States.

Registration should be refused pursuant to Section 2(a) of the Lanham Act, 15 USC 1052 (2d)


(d)
Consists of or comprises a mark which so resembles a mark registered in the Patent and Trademark Office, or a mark or trade name previously used in the United States by another and not abandoned, as to be likely, when used on or in connection with the goods of the applicant, to cause confusion, or to cause mistake, or to deceive: Provided, That if the Director determines that confusion, mistake, or deception is not likely to result from the continued use by more than one person of the same or similar marks under conditions and limitations as to the mode or place of use of the marks or the goods on or in connection with which such marks are used, concurrent registrations may be issued to such persons when they have become entitled to use such marks as a result of their concurrent lawful use in commerce prior to (1) the earliest of the filing dates of the applications pending or of any registration issued under this Act; (2) July 5, 1947, in the case of registrations previously issued under the Act of March 3, 1881, or February 20, 1905, and continuing in full force and effect on that date; or (3) July 5, 1947, in the case of applications filed under the Act of February 20, 1905, and registered after July 5, 1947. Use prior to the filing date of any pending application or a registration shall not be required when the owner of such application or registration consents to the grant of a concurrent registration to the applicant. Concurrent registrations may also be issued by the Director when a court of competent jurisdiction has finally determined that more than one person is entitled to use the same or similar marks in commerce. In issuing concurrent registrations, the Director shall prescribe conditions and limitations as to the mode or place of use of the mark or the goods on or in connection with which such mark is registered to the respective persons.


Supported by the following Documents: (they are claiming that they can add “NPG” 2 their original trademark on “Nature”), they didn’t file for a TM on “NPG” until a YEAR after the NPG-MC applied for their TM.

Exhibit A)

Typed Drawing
Word Mark NATURE
Goods and Services IC 016. US 038. G & S: TECHNICAL JOURNAL IN MAGAZINE FORM. FIRST USE: 18690000. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 18690000
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Design Search Code
Serial Number 73177309
Filing Date July 6, 1978
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Registration Number 1129966
Registration Date January 29, 1980
Owner (REGISTRANT) MACMILLAN JOURNALS LIMITED CORPORATION GREAT BRITAIN LITTLE ESSEX ST. LONDON ENGLAND W.C. 2
(LAST LISTED OWNER) HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED LTD LIAB CO UNITED KINGDOM BRUNEL ROAD HOUNDMILLS, BASINGSTOKE HAMPSHIRE UNITED KINGDOM RG21 6XS
Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Attorney of Record RONALD E. SHAPIRO
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR). SECTION 8(10-YR) 20000830.
Renewal 1ST RENEWAL 20000830
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE



Exhibit B)

Word Mark NPG MUSIC CLUB
Goods and Services IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: online retail store services featuring clothing, jewelry, wearable accessories, posters, concert programs, books, music recordings, video recordings, and related merchandise; promoting the sale of goods and services of others through the distribution of information online and promotional contests. FIRST USE: 20000626. (June 26, 2000) FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20010214 (January 14, 2001)
IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: providing online information in the field of music and entertainment. FIRST USE: 20000626. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20010214
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78586515
Filing Date March 14, 2005
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition January 3, 2006
Owner (APPLICANT) Paisley Park Enterprises, Inc. CORPORATION MINNESOTA 7801 Audubon Road Chanhassen MINNESOTA 55317
Attorney of Record David G. Schelzel
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "MUSIC CLUB" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Exhibit C)



Word Mark NPG MUSIC CLUB
Goods and Services IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: online retail store services featuring clothing, jewelry, wearable accessories, posters, concert programs, books, music recordings, video recordings, and related merchandise; promoting the sale of goods and services of others through the distribution of information online and promotional contests. FIRST USE: 20000626. (June 26, 2000) FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20010214 (February 14, 2001)
IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: providing online information in the field of music and entertainment. FIRST USE: 20000626. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20010214
Mark Drawing Code (5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78586548
Filing Date March 14, 2005
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition January 3, 2006
Owner (APPLICANT) Paisley Park Enterprises, Inc. CORPORATION MINNESOTA 7801 Audubon Road Chanhassen MINNESOTA 55317
Attorney of Record David G. Schelzel
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "MUSIC CLUB" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE


Letter of Intention Mailed 2 NPGMC on July 3, 2006:

Mailed: July 3, 2006
Opposition No 91171672
Serial No. 78586515, 78586548

DAVID G. SCHELZEL
BEST & FLANAGAN LLP
225 S 6TH ST STE 4000
MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55402-4690
dschelzel@bestlaw.com

HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED
v.
Paisley Park Enterprises, Inc.
Gary J. Pitzer

TAROLLI, SUNDHEIM, COVELL & TUMMINO LLP
1300 EAST NINTH STREET SUITE 1700
CLEVELAND, OH 44147
gpitzer@tarolli.com

ESTTA88258
A notice of opposition to the registration sought in the above identified application has been filed. The notice of opposition can be viewed and printed at
http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?qs= 91171672

ANSWER IS DUE FORTY DAYS after the transmission date hereof. (See Trademark Rule 2.196 for expiration date falling on Saturday, Sunday or a holiday).

Proceedings will be conducted in accordance with the Trademark Rules of Practice, set forth in Title 37, part 2, of the Code of Federal Regulations.
The parties are reminded of the recent amendments to the Trademark Rules that affect the rules of practice before the TTAB. See Rules of Practice for Trademark-Related Filings Under the Madrid Protocol Implementation Act, 68
Fed. R. 55,748 (September 26, 2003) (effective November 2, 2003); Reorganization of Correspondence and Other Provisions, 68 Fed. Reg. 48,286 (August 13, 2003) (effective September 12, 2003). Notices concerning the
rules changes, as well as the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board Manual of Procedure (TBMP), are available at www.uspto.gov/web/offices/dcom/ttab/.

The parties are particularly referred to Trademark Rule 2.126
pertaining to the form of submissions. Paper submissions, including but not limited to exhibits and depositions, not filed in accordance United States Patent and Trademark Office

Trademark Trial and Appeal Board
P.O. Box 1451
Alexandria, VA 22313-1451
with Trademark Rule 2.126 may not be given consideration or entered
into the case file.

Discovery and testimony periods are set as follows:

Discovery period to open: July 23, 2006
Discovery period to close: January 19, 2007
30-day testimony period for party
in position of plaintiff to close: April 19, 2007

30-day testimony period for party
in position of defendant to close: June 18, 2007

15-day rebuttal testimony period
for plaintiff to close: August 02, 2007


A party must serve on the adverse party a copy of the transcript of any testimony taken during the party's testimony period, together with copies of documentary exhibits, within 30 days after completion of the
taking of such testimony. See Trademark Rule 2.l25.
Briefs shall be filed in accordance with Trademark Rule 2.l28(a) and (b). An oral hearing will be set only upon request filed as provided by Trademark Rule 2.l29.

NOTE: The Board allows parties to utilize telephone conferences to discuss or resolve many interlocutory matters that arise in inter partes cases. See the Official Gazette notice titled "Permanent Expansion of Telephone Conferencing on Interlocutory Matters in Inter
Partes Cases Before the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board," 1235 TMOG 68 (June 20, 2000). The notice is available at http://www.uspto.gov.

Interlocutory matters which the Board agrees to discuss or decide by phone conference may be decided adversely to any party which fails to participate.

If the parties to this proceeding are also parties to other Board proceedings involving related marks or, during the pendency of this proceeding, they become parties to such proceedings, they should notify the Board immediately, so that the Board can consider consolidation of proceedings.

New Developments at the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board TTAB forms for electronic filing of extensions of time to oppose, notices of opposition, and inter partes filings are now available at http://estta.uspto.gov. Images of TTAB proceeding files can be viewed using TTABVue at http://ttabvue.uspto.gov.


Basically, the "NPG" in NPGMC is off limits at the very least until August 2nd, 2007 - at which time testimony and discovery ends - that means if Prince fights this, it will B a LOOOOONG fight.


HM Publishing, NPG - filed 4 their trademark AFTER NPG Music Club, who first tried filing in 1993 - according to the trademark office. But if U look at the scope of the HM filing, it covers EVERYTHING that Prince basically sells - or might sell.


Word Mark NPG
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Media bearing sound and/or video and/or data and/or information; magnetic recordings; optical recordings; magneto-optical recordings; digital recordings; electronic books; electronic publications (downloadable) provided on-line from databases or the Internet; multi-media discs and publications; multi-media recordings; pre-recorded CD-ROMs, compact discs, laser-readable discs, video discs and publications, audio tape cassettes, video tape cassettes, floppy disks, sound recordings; digital video discs (DVD); computer software; computer software supplied from the Internet; computer programs; parts and fittings for all of the aforesaid goods
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78826402
Filing Date March 1, 2006
Current Filing Basis 44D
Original Filing Basis 44D
Owner (APPLICANT) HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY UNITED KINGDOM HOUNDMILLS BASINGSTOKE ENGLAND RG21 6XS
Attorney of Record GARY J. PITZER
Priority Date September 2, 2005
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Here they r trade marking every 4m of marketing:

Word Mark NPG
Goods and Services IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: The bringing together for the benefit of others, of a variety of goods, enabling customers to conveniently view and purchase those goods in a book store; the bringing together for the benefit of others, of a variety of goods, enabling customers to conveniently view and purchase those goods from a publications catalogue by mail order or by means of telecommunications
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78826426
Filing Date March 1, 2006
Current Filing Basis 44D
Original Filing Basis 44D
Owner (APPLICANT) HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED LTD LIAB CO UNITED KINGDOM HOUNDMILLS BASINGSTOKE ENGLAND RG21 6XS
Attorney of Record GARY J. PITZER
Priority Date September 2, 2005
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Here is another app. 4 trademark by HM Publishing that again, is filed AFTER the NPG, filing 4 everything under the sun.

Word Mark NPG
Goods and Services IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S: Printed matter; printed publications; books; dictionaries; publications; magazines; newsletters; newspapers; periodicals; journals; catalogues; manuals; pamphlets; reference books; leaflets; posters; stationary; labels; instructional and teaching materials, apparatus and instruments; book covers; book marks; drawings; paintings; photographs; prints; pictures; parts and fittings for all of the aforesaid goods
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78826415
Filing Date March 1, 2006
Current Filing Basis 44D
Original Filing Basis 44D
Owner (APPLICANT) HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED LTD LIAB CO UNITED KINGDOM HOUNDMILLS BASINGSTOKE ENGLAND RG21 6XS
Attorney of Record GARY J. PITZER
Priority Date September 2, 2005
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Here we have more:

Word Mark NPG
Goods and Services IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Education services; entertainment services; publishing services; publication of books, magazines; electronic publishing; multi-media publishing; organizing and arranging of conferences
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Design Search Code
Serial Number 78826436
Filing Date March 1, 2006
Current Filing Basis 44D
Original Filing Basis 44D
Owner (APPLICANT) HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED LTD LIAB CO UNITED KINGDOM HOUNDMILLS BASINGSTOKE ENGLAND RG21 6XS
Attorney of Record GARY J. PITZER
Priority Date September 2, 2005
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE


NPG Records and the NPG Music Club reapplied 4 trademarks (Exhibit B & C above) in February 2005 with new counsel, all petitions started in 1993 were abandoned - I am thinking someone dropped the ball on that one BIG TIME.

These trademarks were filed 4 or by Prince in 1993 - but someone seriously dropped the ball. The NPG Music Club could have been registered as an addition to the NPG Records Label, as stated in the The Lanham Act; Title 15 of the U.S. Code, Section 15 USC 1052 (2d) if whoever was in charge had followed through on these TM apps.


Word Mark NPG RECORDS
Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 041. US 107. G & S: entertainment services; namely, providing a series of live theatrical performances featuring musical, dance, dramatic, and comedic presentations; film, video, and television production and distribution services; entertainment services; namely, live performances by a musical group
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Design Search Code
Serial Number 74458350
Filing Date November 15, 1993
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition September 27, 1994
Owner (APPLICANT) Paisley Park Enterprises CORPORATION MINNESOTA 7801 Audubon Road Chanhassen MINNESOTA 55317
Attorney of Record Avis Frazier-Thomas
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "RECORDS" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Abandonment Date December 21, 1995


Word Mark NPG RECORDS
Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 009. US 036. G & S: series of sound recordings; namely, phonograph records, pre-recorded compact discs, and videos featuring music and entertainment
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Design Search Code
Serial Number 74458349
Filing Date November 15, 1993
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition September 20, 1994
Owner (APPLICANT) Paisley Park Enterprises CORPORATION MINNESOTA 7801 Audubon Road Chanhassen MINNESOTA 55317
Attorney of Record Avis Frazier-Thomas
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "RECORDS" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Abandonment Date December 28, 1995
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #100 posted 07/09/06 6:52am

herb4

ian said:

I'm not sure... why any of you care about this. It isn't our business, or our problem. Unless someone with real insight into the minefield that is US copyright law can shed some light on the subject, I suggest it isn't worth worrying over. The NPG name has had its day anyway IMO; a change would be nice.

If the NPG Music Club needs to be re-named for legal reasons, it'll take some time to re-brand and re-launch the site. It'd be a pretty large task to do that, which is a likely explanation for the current downtime.

Sit tight. Prince needs a website to run his business - you can bet that they'll get back online in due course. In the meantime, go read a book or get some fresh air!


nod

Where in the hell did this calm and rational response come from?
Reply #101 posted 07/09/06 6:54am

tamaranow

thank u synergy for all ur time, loyalty and information to the current topic.

you deserve a "thank you"...
i love you for who you are, not the one u feel u need to be.
My star shines bright ....even in the darkest night...star
Reply #102 posted 07/09/06 7:19am

VenusDeMilo9999

Tom said:

It was time for Prince to get rid of that silly name anyhow, its beyond dated.





U got that right.
may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go...
Reply #103 posted 07/09/06 7:34am

VenusDeMilo9999

Synergy said:

Whatever ppl, just passing on the news... do what U like with it.





I would gladly sign a petition claming I've been a NPG family member ever since Prince had a catalog, I may make matters worst if Prince has been using NPG illegically 4 that long, but I know this is causing my program and networking 2 shutdown, and hell i feel I'm just as important as those Nature bastards!
may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go...
Reply #104 posted 07/09/06 7:45am

VenusDeMilo9999

electriclife said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

it's nice to see peoples' concern over all this, but frankly, there are far worse things to put a stop to and take a stand for than a petty-assed lawsuit being aimed at a pop star.


Yeah, and there is also more to do than to live on this fucking website everyday talking about a certain pop star, and having a cute little sacastic remark for every post that someone makes. The shit gets old.

Flame all you want, I won't be on here to read the dumb shit.





See 'ya. Wouldnt wanna b 'ya.
may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go...
Reply #105 posted 07/09/06 7:46am

FutureShock

wonder505 said:

FutureShock said:



I hear what you're saying but... I still tend to agree with those who say that it would've been the responsible thing to do to simply explain to his fans that there was a legal problem going on and that was the real reason why the club was going on "hiatus". Instead of actually knowing the real reason, we are all left to speculate.

So to question why "any of us would care about this" is kind of a ridiculous statement considering that all of us are undoubtedly fans and will always care about the status of his business. Why? Because it affects how we all interact with Prince and our access to his music who and which we obviously love. This is just so par for the course for Prince and his minions to feed the world a line of bullshit that has virutually nothing to do with the real reason the club has been shut down. For someone that is always harping about "The Truth", Prince is the main person that seems to have the biggest problem with telling the truth.


Has it ever dawned on you that maybe he could not talk about it for legal reasons? Naturally, as fans who support the site feel entitled, but there is so much we don't know on the why. We can only interpret things we find out on our own.


Yes it did dawn on me but... I'm looking at his track record..., it's not just this one issue. Besides, it's highly unlikely that he could not make a simple, accurate, truthful statement without going into the level of detail that is being offered on this thread. On top of that, why have your employees send out a statement about the status of the club that Prince knows good and well has absolutely nothing to do with the real reason to shutdown the site? It just smells wrong.
"You've got to believe in something... why not believe in me?"
Reply #106 posted 07/09/06 7:52am

sosgemini

VenusDeMilo9999 said:

Synergy said:

Whatever ppl, just passing on the news... do what U like with it.





I would gladly sign a petition claming I've been a NPG family member ever since Prince had a catalog, I may make matters worst if Prince has been using NPG illegically 4 that long, but I know this is causing my program and networking 2 shutdown, and hell i feel I'm just as important as those Nature bastards!


confuse

umm, whats causing your network and program to shutdown?
[Edited 7/9/06 7:56am]
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Reply #107 posted 07/09/06 7:55am

VenusDeMilo9999

ian said:

I'm not sure... why any of you care about this. It isn't our business, or our problem. Unless someone with real insight into the minefield that is US copyright law can shed some light on the subject, I suggest it isn't worth worrying over. The NPG name has had its day anyway IMO; a change would be nice.

If the NPG Music Club needs to be re-named for legal reasons, it'll take some time to re-brand and re-launch the site. It'd be a pretty large task to do that, which is a likely explanation for the current downtime.

Sit tight. Prince needs a website to run his business - you can bet that they'll get back online in due course. In the meantime, go read a book or get some fresh air!





Yep. In tha song "Fury" he states,He's got a new band their making money, making plans. and tha word on tha streets, He's still yo man
may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go...
Reply #108 posted 07/09/06 7:56am

sosgemini

VenusDeMilo9999 said:

ian said:

I'm not sure... why any of you care about this. It isn't our business, or our problem. Unless someone with real insight into the minefield that is US copyright law can shed some light on the subject, I suggest it isn't worth worrying over. The NPG name has had its day anyway IMO; a change would be nice.

If the NPG Music Club needs to be re-named for legal reasons, it'll take some time to re-brand and re-launch the site. It'd be a pretty large task to do that, which is a likely explanation for the current downtime.

Sit tight. Prince needs a website to run his business - you can bet that they'll get back online in due course. In the meantime, go read a book or get some fresh air!





Yep. In tha song "Fury" he states,He's got a new band their making money, making plans. and tha word on tha streets, He's still yo man


confuse


ummm, oh nevermind.
[Edited 7/9/06 7:57am]
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Reply #109 posted 07/09/06 8:02am

PurpleCharm

Giovanni777 said:

Personal crises can fuel creativity, but mundane legal crises, and unitelligent ignorant criticism can stump it.

In terms of all the catty banter on here about him getting what was coming 2 him, and "OH... he should have told us what was really hapenening", and "couldn't he have given us more notice"...

Y'all R some serious backstabbers. I dedicate the classic O'Jays song 2 U.

If Prince would take my advice on just one thing, I'd tell him 2 stay clear away from the internet. I mean, criticism and opinions R both natural and acceptable, but an artist needs not 2 be reading this kind, if they wish 2 be an open channel 4 creativity.

I thought Synergy's idea was brilliant... it may not need 2 be implemented, but at least there's thought there, instead of whining.

... double PEACE 2 WONDER505 4 the above comment.

Peace.

ALSO... Prince may see this as a sign 4 change. Therefore, he was being honest in saying it was time 2 move on. If U have the perspective that everything happens 4 a reason, then this is more than just a problem or a fight... it's a sign. I was personally tired of NPG anyway.

G.
[Edited 7/9/06 6:00am]
[Edited 7/9/06 6:03am]


nod
Reply #110 posted 07/09/06 8:05am

VenusDeMilo9999

sosgemini said:

VenusDeMilo9999 said:






I would gladly sign a petition claming I've been a NPG family member ever since Prince had a catalog, I may make matters worst if Prince has been using NPG illegically 4 that long, but I know this is causing my program and networking 2 shutdown, and hell i feel I'm just as important as those Nature bastards!


confuse

umm, whats causing your network and program to shutdown?
[Edited 7/9/06 7:56am]






Tha lawsuite. I cant logg on, that's my program, and I lost all my connections, that's my network. dam did u really have 2 ask that question,lol and u knew what I was gonna say.
may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go...
Reply #111 posted 07/09/06 8:07am

VenusDeMilo9999

I would think tha opposite if I saw a book published under NPG. I "wouldnt" think it was tha Nature group published it. I would think it was Published by Prince, and b really pissed off 2 find out it wasnt after I b done bought it!
may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go...
Reply #112 posted 07/09/06 8:14am

gemini13

CalhounSq said:

cinnamongirl24 said:



what guy would want to fuck with a smart woman anyway, especially when the smarter they are, the uglier/nerdier they are.


Oh my comfort



This is a female saying this. confused
Reply #113 posted 07/09/06 8:16am

sosgemini

VenusDeMilo9999 said:

sosgemini said:



confuse

umm, whats causing your network and program to shutdown?
[Edited 7/9/06 7:56am]






Tha lawsuite. I cant logg on, that's my program, and I lost all my connections, that's my network. dam did u really have 2 ask that question,lol and u knew what I was gonna say.



ohhh...your network of friends and the website...i get it now.
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Reply #114 posted 07/09/06 8:21am

VenusDeMilo9999

sosgemini said:

VenusDeMilo9999 said:







Tha lawsuite. I cant logg on, that's my program, and I lost all my connections, that's my network. dam did u really have 2 ask that question,lol and u knew what I was gonna say.



ohhh...your network of friends and the website...i get it now.



Yep I'm suein 2! Now u get it.Sometimes it takes a minute, but hey... ur here. ...lol, i anit playin wit cha.
may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go...
Reply #115 posted 07/09/06 8:28am

RockNRoll

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

it's nice to see peoples' concern over all this, but frankly, there are far worse things to put a stop to and take a stand for than a petty-assed lawsuit being aimed at a pop star.



DING DING lol


Hello????? lol
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #116 posted 07/09/06 8:32am

VenusDeMilo9999

Prince has been using NPG 4 along time and I know I was a member before websites. When we ordered all this stuff out of the NPG catalog.It's so hard 4 me 2 believe He didnt get tha trademaked, just unbelievable some1 can go and get one later and make him dropp it like it was hot. Dam first they take his name his dear mother gave him, now they take New Power Generation. Mother Fuckers.
may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go...
Reply #117 posted 07/09/06 8:36am

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

People are reading too much into it. Let's wait and see what happens. Hopefully the next site Prince puts up will be more improved and exciting.
Edmonton, AB - canada
Mod Goddess of the SNIP & BAN Making Moves - OF4S
Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
Reply #118 posted 07/09/06 8:56am

goku

tamaranow said:

thank u synergy for all ur time, loyalty and information to the current topic.

you deserve a "thank you"...


I agree, Thank you synergy.
Typical Prince though, let's get all cryptic
about the reason for the shutdown, instead of
trusting the members to understand THE TRUTH.
Reply #119 posted 07/09/06 9:22am

sosgemini

VenusDeMilo9999 said:

sosgemini said:




ohhh...your network of friends and the website...i get it now.



Yep I'm suein 2! Now u get it.Sometimes it takes a minute, but hey... ur here. ...lol, i anit playin wit cha.



well, for future reference: it would help if you took a second to think out your thoughts...type them, re-read them making sure that those outside your head will comprehend them, edit for clarity purposes and *then* click "post responce".

either that or dont post drunk...(trust, ive learned this lesson).

thumbs up!


lol
Space for sale...
Reply #120 posted 07/09/06 9:45am

Synergy

Well from all the legal papers I have uncovered 2day, THIS IS NOT GOOD at ALL.

They have sued twice 2 make Prince stop using NPG RECORDS... and they keep suing over NPGMC. They will just keep doing it over and over.

neutral
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #121 posted 07/09/06 9:49am

MadCute

ian said:

I'm not sure... why any of you care about this. It isn't our business, or our problem. Unless someone with real insight into the minefield that is US copyright law can shed some light on the subject, I suggest it isn't worth worrying over. The NPG name has had its day anyway IMO; a change would be nice.

If the NPG Music Club needs to be re-named for legal reasons, it'll take some time to re-brand and re-launch the site. It'd be a pretty large task to do that, which is a likely explanation for the current downtime.

Sit tight. Prince needs a website to run his business - you can bet that they'll get back online in due course. In the meantime, go read a book or get some fresh air!

grouphug chill pill
Reply #122 posted 07/09/06 10:04am

psychodelicide

OMFG!!!!! You all are NOT going to beleive this, but I used to work for the law firm Tarolli, Sundheim & Covell, and that is not a lie. I really did during the late 80's early 90's. Damn, this is unbelievable in that Prince would lose due to a trademark fight and that the law firm involved was one where I was employed at one time. Unfuckingbelievable!!!!
RIP, Prince. A legend has left us, and you will be forever missed. cry

"She probably found her vagina". lol
Reply #123 posted 07/09/06 10:22am

Snap

I didn't know Prince was so attached to the NPG. The first time I remember it being abbreviated and stylized was on the walls of the bedroom in the "Interactive" CD-ROM game -- when was that, 1993? I doubt Nature Publishing Group uses the same stylization for their NPG trademark. Anyway, hard to believe that people can own abbreviations when there are so few letters in the alphabet. I mean, look at how many businesses go by the name AAA or ABC just so they can have top billing in the phone book. Why couldn't Prince do what he did on the cover of the 1991 "Gett Off" 12-inch single and spell it out, making NPG larger than the rest of the letters? If Nature Publishing Group were smart, they'd wait until the NPG was a real threat to them and then sue Prince for possible lost monies. Not that I agree with that, but I don't understand why they're picking on him now.

I don't know... New Power Generation meant something much different back in '88 anyways. He probably should drop it. He's a creative guy. He can come up with something else. "Maybe God is tryin' to tell ya something!"
Reply #124 posted 07/09/06 11:07am

laurarichardson

sosgemini said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


we think? change that--we know that he's an incompetent businessman. if he weren't, the majority of us definitely wouldn't be bitching about stuff he's done in the past.



falloff

all he had to say was that due to pending letigation all future prince corresponandance would be handled via 3121...


but nooooo....he had to close things down without any warning or explenation.

----
Maybe he was advised to do so by his lawyers. You guys always find something to bitch about and seem to think that P does not have lawyers. Besides the notice said the shut down was temporary.
Reply #125 posted 07/09/06 11:12am

softandwet

Perhaps people who are confused should check out the thread on the HQ. It seems less muddled than this thread!

Basically all it is is that the Nature Publishing Group want to stop Prince 'selling books' which they believe would infringe on their 'NPG' and possibly confuse people into believing princes NPG was in fact the Nature Publishing Group. Hence why he can still sell NPG music, clothes and gear. Any lawsuit against NPG Records would flop entirely I'm sure and I thought they'd pulled out of that one anyway.

As for why the site has closed down, well maybe he just decided to close it down after that and was thinking about a change anyway? Who knows! I doubt we'll fully find out I suppose.
Reply #126 posted 07/09/06 11:14am

sosgemini

laurarichardson said:

sosgemini said:




falloff

all he had to say was that due to pending letigation all future prince corresponandance would be handled via 3121...


but nooooo....he had to close things down without any warning or explenation.

----
Maybe he was advised to do so by his lawyers. You guys always find something to bitch about and seem to think that P does not have lawyers. Besides the notice said the shut down was temporary.



and you don't? falloff

Space for sale...
Reply #127 posted 07/09/06 11:16am

sosgemini

softandwet said:


Basically all it is is that the Nature Publishing Group want to stop Prince 'selling books' which they believe would infringe on their 'NPG' and possibly confuse people into believing princes NPG was in fact the Nature Publishing Group. Hence why he can still sell NPG music, clothes and gear. Any lawsuit against NPG Records would flop entirely I'm sure and I thought they'd pulled out of that one anyway.

As for why the site has closed down, well maybe he just decided to close it down after that and was thinking about a change anyway? Who knows! I doubt we'll fully find out I suppose.



i agree...
Space for sale...
Reply #128 posted 07/09/06 11:44am

radici27

The question for me is: since the npgmc has been around for years, why is this suit being filed now?
Reply #129 posted 07/09/06 12:28pm

jone70

This is all very curious. On one hand, "New Power Generation" does sound really dated (and I've never been a fan of that name anyway); but on the other hand, why should Prince just give in to them when it's clear that he had been using that for several years before HM Publishing created their NPG division? Additionally, if people are stupid enough to buy a book without looking at it or reading the description of it (i.e. confusing the two NPGs) then that's on them. I can't imagine there's much of a cross-over market for Prince magazines/books and physical science journals. lol

But what I wanna know is when's the gotdayum tour and where will I be able to buy my pre-sale tixs (e.g. 3121.com or somewhere else)? biggrin
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
Reply #130 posted 07/09/06 12:31pm

Synergy

What is a trademark or a servicemark?

A trademark includes any word, name, symbol, or device, or any combination, used, or intended to be used, in commerce to identify and distinguish the goods of one manufacturer or seller from goods manufactured or sold by others, and to indicate the source of the goods. In short, a trademark is a brand name.
A service mark is simply a trademark used to refer to services rather than products. The term "trademark" is often used to refer to both service marks and trademarks for goods.


What are common law rights?

Federal registration is not required to establish rights in a trademark. Common law rights arise from actual use of a mark. Generally, the first to either use a mark in commerce or file an intent to use application with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office has the ultimate right to use and registration. However, there are many exceptions to this general rule.

Must a trademark be registered?

No. However, federal registration has several advantages including notice to the public of the registrant's claim of ownership of the mark, a legal presumption of ownership nationwide, and the exclusive right to use the mark on or in connection with the goods or services set forth in the registration.

Source: http://www.tarolli.com/faq.htm (the firm that is suing Prince)

Common Law Rights - Property or other legal rights that do not absolutely require formal registration in order to enforce them. Proving such rights for a trademark in court can be very difficult, requires meticulous documentation, and places a heavy burden on the individual. Active Federal registration of trademark can provide a higher degree of legal protection and readily-demonstrated evidence of ownership of a mark.

Source: http://www.uspto.gov/main/glossary/index.html#c


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Number of results: 4
Proceeding
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Defendant(s),
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Plaintiff(s),
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91171672
07/03/2006
Paisley Park Enterprises, Inc.
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HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED


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HM Publishers Holdings Limited


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HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED


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225 S 6TH ST STE 4000
MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55402-4690
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Application Status: Opposition Pending
Mark: NPG MUSIC CLUB
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CLEVELAND, OH 44114
gpitzer@tarolli.com
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BEST & FLANAGAN LLP
225 S 6TH ST 4000
MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55402
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Mark: NPG RECORDS
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Name: HM Publishers Holdings Limited

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1300 EAST NINTH STREET, SUITE 1700
CLEVELAND, OH 44114
gpitzer@tarolli.com
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Defendant
Name: Paisley Park Enterprises, Inc.

Correspondence: DAVID G. SCHELZEL
BEST & FLANAGAN LLP
225 S 6TH ST STE 4000
MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55402-4690
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Name: HM PUBLISHERS HOLDINGS LIMITED

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TAROLLI, SUNDHEIM, COVELL & TUMMINO LLP
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CLEVELAND, OH 44147
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Paisley Park Enterprises, Inc.
7801 Audubon Road
Chanhassen, MN 55317
United States
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First Use Date: 2000-06-26
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Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #131 posted 07/09/06 12:43pm

Synergy

jone70 said:

This is all very curious. On one hand, "New Power Generation" does sound really dated (and I've never been a fan of that name anyway); but on the other hand, why should Prince just give in to them when it's clear that he had been using that for several years before HM Publishing created their NPG division? Additionally, if people are stupid enough to buy a book without looking at it or reading the description of it (i.e. confusing the two NPGs) then that's on them. I can't imagine there's much of a cross-over market for Prince magazines/books and physical science journals. lol

But what I wanna know is when's the gotdayum tour and where will I be able to buy my pre-sale tixs (e.g. 3121.com or somewhere else)? biggrin



tour with what? The album was not produced under a "3121" label, it was produced under the label of "NPG RECORDS". He's supposed 2 do what exactly, tour with an album labeled with the letters that he cannot USE? Selling T-shirts and other crap with Initials 4 the club that he no longer has because he cant USE N-P-G on anything?

This affects ALL of Prince's ownership under NPG, if they win on the club, the record label will go next - because they, as the opposing counsel, will have set a precedent by winning a judgement in their favor with the club, Period. End of story.

Sell tickets 2 whom? Can't sell 'em 2 NPG members, because Nature's PG believes it is the only ONE that rights 2 hold conventions, get togethers under the initials of "NPG" or sell anything online under the umbrella of "NPG". There will b NO presale tickets, because the club can no longer operate - it can no longer sell anything via the internet, because Nature's PG believes that Prince's online NPG site will b confused with their Nature's brand,period.
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #132 posted 07/09/06 1:04pm

ndigo

Synergy said:

jone70 said:

This is all very curious. On one hand, "New Power Generation" does sound really dated (and I've never been a fan of that name anyway); but on the other hand, why should Prince just give in to them when it's clear that he had been using that for several years before HM Publishing created their NPG division? Additionally, if people are stupid enough to buy a book without looking at it or reading the description of it (i.e. confusing the two NPGs) then that's on them. I can't imagine there's much of a cross-over market for Prince magazines/books and physical science journals. lol

But what I wanna know is when's the gotdayum tour and where will I be able to buy my pre-sale tixs (e.g. 3121.com or somewhere else)? biggrin



tour with what? The album was not produced under a "3121" label, it was produced under the label of "NPG RECORDS". He's supposed 2 do what exactly, tour with an album labeled with the letters that he cannot USE? Selling T-shirts and other crap with Initials 4 the club that he no longer has because he cant USE N-P-G on anything?

This affects ALL of Prince's ownership under NPG, if they win on the club, the record label will go next - because they, as the opposing counsel, will have set a precedent by winning a judgement in their favor with the club, Period. End of story.

Sell tickets 2 whom? Can't sell 'em 2 NPG members, because Nature's PG believes it is the only ONE that rights 2 hold conventions, get togethers under the initials of "NPG" or sell anything online under the umbrella of "NPG". There will b NO presale tickets, because the club can no longer operate - it can no longer sell anything via the internet, because Nature's PG believes that Prince's online NPG site will b confused with their Nature's brand,period.



Oh, God. Not ticketbastard, again....
The road you choose to walk in this life, is a road that leads to the next.....
Reply #133 posted 07/09/06 1:11pm

jone70

Synergy said:

tour with what?


confuse Umm, tour with a band that plays and sings music from his vast repetoire of songs.

The album was not produced under a "3121" label, it was produced under the label of "NPG RECORDS". He's supposed 2 do what exactly, tour with an album labeled with the letters that he cannot USE? Selling T-shirts and other crap with Initials 4 the club that he no longer has because he cant USE N-P-G on anything?


He still plays songs that were produced under the WB label so how is this any different? I thought Nature Publishing/HM was more concerned about the perceived conflation of printed materials (e.g. books, etc) in peoples' minds. He wouldn't be selling tickets to a booksigning... And I couldn't care less about the T-shirts, souvenirs, etc. There's no rule that says he has to sell that stuff. (I don't buy that stuff anyway. I go to the concert for the music not the knick-knacks.)

This affects ALL of Prince's ownership under NPG, if they win on the club, the record label will go next - because they, as the opposing counsel, will have set a precedent by winning a judgement in their favor with the club, Period. End of story.


Does Universal's involvement with 3121 make any difference (e.g. it wasn't solely an NPG release, but also Universal)?

Sell tickets 2 whom? Can't sell 'em 2 NPG members, because Nature's PG believes it is the only ONE that rights 2 hold conventions, get togethers under the initials of "NPG" or sell anything online under the umbrella of "NPG". There will b NO presale tickets, because the club can no longer operate - it can no longer sell anything via the internet, because Nature's PG believes that Prince's online NPG site will b confused with their Nature's brand,period.


Sell them to Prince fans, of course. (I doubt many Nature Publishing Group subscribers would want them smile ). Why can't "Paisley Park" start a "mailing list" which people could "sign up" for? Then those people who sign up could cross-referenced/checked against the membership records from NPGMC. (NPGMC still owns the information they collected from members of the club.) Now granted, this would very likely be somewhat chaotic since we all know how reliable the emails from NPGMC were... wink They can sell tickets through Ticketweb or something. The people on the "mailing list" could receive a unique code that would allow them to buy before non mailing list people at a "member" price. I'm just throwing out ideas--not sure of all the ligistics, but there's got to be a viable alternative; I guess it's just a matter of how much effort they (Paisley Park/Prince/NPGMC/whomever) would be willing to exert.
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Reply #134 posted 07/09/06 1:24pm

Terilicious

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

sosgemini said:




falloff

all he had to say was that due to pending letigation all future prince corresponandance would be handled via 3121...


but nooooo....he had to close things down without any warning or explenation.

e-fucking-xactly! falloff



Yeah. That seems simple enough to do. It would have been right to do so as well.
But then again if we're seen as outsiders or peons to his ROYAL MADNESTY ( a phrase that I coined) then I guess he didn't or doesn't feel the need to give us the heads up on what is strictly HIS business and NOT OURS.We just pay the money to fund his site, purchse his merchandise and attend his shows. WHy should he share anything with us?
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Reply #135 posted 07/09/06 1:25pm

sosgemini

jone70 said:

Synergy said:

tour with what?


confuse Umm, tour with a band that plays and sings music from his vast repetoire of songs.



Does Universal's involvement with 3121 make any difference (e.g. it wasn't solely an NPG release, but also Universal)?

Sell tickets 2 whom? Can't sell 'em 2 NPG members, because Nature's PG believes it is the only ONE that rights 2 hold conventions, get togethers under the initials of "NPG" or sell anything online under the umbrella of "NPG". There will b NO presale tickets, because the club can no longer operate - it can no longer sell anything via the internet, because Nature's PG believes that Prince's online NPG site will b confused with their Nature's brand,period.


Sell them to Prince fans, of course. (I doubt many Nature Publishing Group subscribers would want them smile ). Why can't "Paisley Park" start a "mailing list" which people could "sign up" for? Then those people who sign up could cross-referenced/checked against the membership records from NPGMC. (NPGMC still owns the information they collected from members of the club.) Now granted, this would very likely be somewhat chaotic since we all know how reliable the emails from NPGMC were... wink They can sell tickets through Ticketweb or something. The people on the "mailing list" could receive a unique code that would allow them to buy before non mailing list people at a "member" price. I'm just throwing out ideas--not sure of all the ligistics, but there's got to be a viable alternative; I guess it's just a matter of how much effort they (Paisley Park/Prince/NPGMC/whomever) would be willing to exert.


you aint seriously trying to be rational, on this thread? eek
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Reply #136 posted 07/09/06 1:26pm

sosgemini

Terilicious said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


e-fucking-xactly! falloff



Yeah. That seems simple enough to do. It would have been right to do so as well.
But then again if we're seen as outsiders or peons to his ROYAL MADNESTY ( a phrase that I coined) then I guess he didn't or doesn't feel the need to give us the heads up on what is strictly HIS business and NOT OURS.We just pay the money to fund his site, purchse his merchandise and attend his shows. WHy should he share anything with us?



because in Pizzaro World...customers aint first.

lol
[Edited 7/9/06 13:26pm]
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Reply #137 posted 07/09/06 1:31pm

jone70

sosgemini said:

you aint seriously trying to be rational, on this thread? eek


doh! Sorry, it's a bad habit I have. I'll try to keep it under control. wink
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Reply #138 posted 07/09/06 1:36pm

Terilicious

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

it's nice to see peoples' concern over all this, but frankly, there are far worse things to put a stop to and take a stand for than a petty-assed lawsuit being aimed at a pop star.



Yeah really. Perhaps I'd have been more apt to attempt at helping P if he wasn't so damn alienated from his fans. But there really are more important things to fight against: poverty; homelessness; disease; animal cruelty; the spread of hiv/aids; the current and future war; mass genocide in Sudan; the price of gasoline; the lack of nationwide healtcare in the U.S.; the creation and testing of NUCLEAR WEAPONS all over the world; media bias...etc.
[Edited 7/9/06 13:39pm]
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Reply #139 posted 07/09/06 1:39pm

Terilicious

sosgemini said:

Terilicious said:




Yeah. That seems simple enough to do. It would have been right to do so as well.
But then again if we're seen as outsiders or peons to his ROYAL MADNESTY ( a phrase that I coined) then I guess he didn't or doesn't feel the need to give us the heads up on what is strictly HIS business and NOT OURS.We just pay the money to fund his site, purchse his merchandise and attend his shows. WHy should he share anything with us?



because in Pizzaro World...customers aint first.

lol
[Edited 7/9/06 13:26pm]


lol
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www.stickam.com/profile/Beatloaf
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www.tomgreen.com

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Reply #140 posted 07/09/06 2:46pm

sacredwarrior

radici27 said:

The question for me is: since the npgmc has been around for years, why is this suit being filed now?



because the book he wants to sell and make more money from is religious in nature and primitive in its concepts compared with all the great spiritual reading you can do on the internet for free ?


he's living in his own little dream world that millions of people woke up from years ago, and when a person constantly breaks universal laws because they think they can cuz they're famous...eventually that shit will catch up with you


if he shut the site down, or was advised to shut the site down, or was forced to shut the site down, for any other reasons, the little dream world he lives in suggested he do it without warning...no consideration shown to members...just another little sign of the tunnel-vision headspace his little dream world propagates...

this kinda shit is what happens to people who live in a mental prison induced by fame...

sad as it is..as a human being..he has the same responsibility to grow up and wake up as anyone else...prince or pauper...



heart
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Reply #141 posted 07/09/06 2:51pm

theoriginalQueenB

lightning rainbo

.....since my attention has been drawn here~allow B a moment 2 step on thru...

compassionate Synergy, truly U could not know how much eye hear & feel the passion U express on this as it seems U mayb tripping down a road this one knows all 2 well.....a great teacher told B once, "Everything is information, its all about how you attach yourself to it!"

...may B suggest U utilize your skills of research & indignation 2 reach out 2 the individuals within the (NPG) community that has been impacted rather than fruitlessly expend your precious benevolence on an individual who has YET 2 know the meaning of reciprocal action....

.....(eye will try my Best not 2 get personal) review his patterns of behavior N the past few years & perhaps recognize this is more of the same: litigation against fans who have the audacity 2 use his (name)symbol 2 set up websites devoted 2 support & expansion of his music/product/events/news N the wider world, establishing a website 2 sell 'product' 2 fans that they never receive or get refunded 4 (can any1 say 'Crystal Ball'), promote 2 NPGers preferential seating @ concerts-(any NPGers from the 3/2/02 soundcheck out there?)did Ticketmaster know? & any number of occasions U or any of the general public could know nothing about....


....speaking as 'shawdow 2 the sun' it has definately been painful (Spiritual) lessons that has garnered my discernment between Assistance & Enabling....let B assure U that this portion of the Madnesty (yes Terilicious coined the phrase)is but a meager portion of the plethora of concerns on Prince's list having arrived 2 the season of 'reap what U sow'.....supporting him 2 continued N the same behavior WILL NOT promote the healing & growth so badly needed & guarantee expansion of the soul damage already incurred....

.....eye 4 one send petitions & energy 2 the universe 4 his healing, balance & growth that the Better man might emerge N the flesh & a new musical message may emanate from this one whom eye remember from B4 we were born wink

....snap, loveletter & scaredwarrior ~ eye hear ya'll 2 ~ without a doubt

yo Teri, thanks 4 telling B about this thread

dove
queen B
Reply #142 posted 07/09/06 3:13pm

sosgemini

falloff
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Reply #143 posted 07/09/06 3:20pm

sacredwarrior

theoriginalQueenB said:

lightning rainbo

.....since my attention has been drawn here~allow B a moment 2 step on thru...

compassionate Synergy, truly U could not know how much eye hear & feel the passion U express on this as it seems U mayb tripping down a road this one knows all 2 well.....a great teacher told B once, "Everything is information, its all about how you attach yourself to it!"

...may B suggest U utilize your skills of research & indignation 2 reach out 2 the individuals within the (NPG) community that has been impacted rather than fruitlessly expend your precious benevolence on an individual who has YET 2 know the meaning of reciprocal action....

.....(eye will try my Best not 2 get personal) review his patterns of behavior N the past few years & perhaps recognize this is more of the same: litigation against fans who have the audacity 2 use his (name)symbol 2 set up websites devoted 2 support & expansion of his music/product/events/news N the wider world, establishing a website 2 sell 'product' 2 fans that they never receive or get refunded 4 (can any1 say 'Crystal Ball'), promote 2 NPGers preferential seating @ concerts-(any NPGers from the 3/2/02 soundcheck out there?)did Ticketmaster know? & any number of occasions U or any of the general public could know nothing about....


....speaking as 'shawdow 2 the sun' it has definately been painful (Spiritual) lessons that has garnered my discernment between Assistance & Enabling....let B assure U that this portion of the Madnesty (yes Terilicious coined the phrase)is but a meager portion of the plethora of concerns on Prince's list having arrived 2 the season of 'reap what U sow'.....supporting him 2 continued N the same behavior WILL NOT promote the healing & growth so badly needed & guarantee expansion of the soul damage already incurred....

.....eye 4 one send petitions & energy 2 the universe 4 his healing, balance & growth that the Better man might emerge N the flesh & a new musical message may emanate from this one whom eye remember from B4 we were born wink

....snap, loveletter & scaredwarrior ~ eye hear ya'll 2 ~ without a doubt

yo Teri, thanks 4 telling B about this thread

dove
queen B



Hi QueenB,

Regarding Prince's " Healing "...

realistically - he's looking at having to UNDO every negative effect of fame

thats around 25 years worth...

every other time he has had the opportunity to do so

he has CHOSEN not to

as much as i believe in miracles

and as much as i wish for the same as you

i wont be holding my breath

now will i be 'waiting around' to see 'if he pulls through'



i have a damn fine life to live

and i learnt recently

not to think with the heart



all the compassion in the world aint gunna help that man

only he can

but can he - when he's "sitting in a prison cell surrounded by criminals" ?


we're talkin bout him goin to live in some remote hut somewhere and truly get engaged with what life is supposed to be about ...


if you can imagine Prince stripped of everything he has - and willingly relinquishing all of it...

then i guess he'll b ok... but i dont see it happening



the mental damage and psycholgical scars and heart wounds are way too deep.



but like i said - i do believe in miracles.



Realistically Pessimistic
and Constructively Impatient,


sacred.
heart
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Reply #144 posted 07/09/06 3:33pm

CinisterCee

Shavanti said:


Tough Shit that I pulled the plug on the Club!

Tough Shit that I didn't give u all any notice!

Tough Shit that U didn't get the e-mail from US as there NO LONGER is an US!


dancing jig That sounds like a record!

lemme hear ya say TOUGH SHIT
Reply #145 posted 07/09/06 3:34pm

sosgemini

falloff
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Reply #146 posted 07/09/06 3:34pm

sosgemini

HORNS!!! Play!!!


TUFF SHIT!!!
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Reply #147 posted 07/09/06 3:42pm

CinisterCee

sosgemini said:

HORNS!!! Play!!!


TUFF SHIT!!!

lol
Reply #148 posted 07/09/06 3:49pm

wonder505

sacredwarrior said:

theoriginalQueenB said:

lightning rainbo

.....since my attention has been drawn here~allow B a moment 2 step on thru...

compassionate Synergy, truly U could not know how much eye hear & feel the passion U express on this as it seems U mayb tripping down a road this one knows all 2 well.....a great teacher told B once, "Everything is information, its all about how you attach yourself to it!"

...may B suggest U utilize your skills of research & indignation 2 reach out 2 the individuals within the (NPG) community that has been impacted rather than fruitlessly expend your precious benevolence on an individual who has YET 2 know the meaning of reciprocal action....

.....(eye will try my Best not 2 get personal) review his patterns of behavior N the past few years & perhaps recognize this is more of the same: litigation against fans who have the audacity 2 use his (name)symbol 2 set up websites devoted 2 support & expansion of his music/product/events/news N the wider world, establishing a website 2 sell 'product' 2 fans that they never receive or get refunded 4 (can any1 say 'Crystal Ball'), promote 2 NPGers preferential seating @ concerts-(any NPGers from the 3/2/02 soundcheck out there?)did Ticketmaster know? & any number of occasions U or any of the general public could know nothing about....


....speaking as 'shawdow 2 the sun' it has definately been painful (Spiritual) lessons that has garnered my discernment between Assistance & Enabling....let B assure U that this portion of the Madnesty (yes Terilicious coined the phrase)is but a meager portion of the plethora of concerns on Prince's list having arrived 2 the season of 'reap what U sow'.....supporting him 2 continued N the same behavior WILL NOT promote the healing & growth so badly needed & guarantee expansion of the soul damage already incurred....

.....eye 4 one send petitions & energy 2 the universe 4 his healing, balance & growth that the Better man might emerge N the flesh & a new musical message may emanate from this one whom eye remember from B4 we were born wink

....snap, loveletter & scaredwarrior ~ eye hear ya'll 2 ~ without a doubt

yo Teri, thanks 4 telling B about this thread

dove
queen B



Hi QueenB,

Regarding Prince's " Healing "...

realistically - he's looking at having to UNDO every negative effect of fame

thats around 25 years worth...

every other time he has had the opportunity to do so

he has CHOSEN not to

as much as i believe in miracles

and as much as i wish for the same as you

i wont be holding my breath

now will i be 'waiting around' to see 'if he pulls through'



i have a damn fine life to live

and i learnt recently

not to think with the heart



all the compassion in the world aint gunna help that man

only he can

but can he - when he's "sitting in a prison cell surrounded by criminals" ?


we're talkin bout him goin to live in some remote hut somewhere and truly get engaged with what life is supposed to be about ...


if you can imagine Prince stripped of everything he has - and willingly relinquishing all of it...

then i guess he'll b ok... but i dont see it happening



the mental damage and psycholgical scars and heart wounds are way too deep.



but like i said - i do believe in miracles.



Realistically Pessimistic
and Constructively Impatient,


sacred.
heart


With all due respect, what the fuck are you guys talking about????
Reply #149 posted 07/09/06 3:53pm

HoneymoonXpress

This is a sign that Prince needs to get rid of that damned name, he's had it long enough...
Reply #150 posted 07/09/06 3:54pm

Terilicious

queen B,

Why you always throwin' in my name? Didn't Morris and the Tenderlicious ordeal teach you anything!!!!
I got enough trouble here.

lol
[Edited 7/9/06 15:55pm]
I AM BEATLOAF
www.myspace.com/teriteriboberi
www.stickam.com/profile/Beatloaf
www.myspace.com/americasfunnyman
www.stephenking.com
www.tomgreen.com

I'm my own favorite orger and that trumps any elitist list you guys can come up with.
Reply #151 posted 07/09/06 3:56pm

Terilicious

wonder505 said:

sacredwarrior said:




Hi QueenB,

Regarding Prince's " Healing "...

realistically - he's looking at having to UNDO every negative effect of fame

thats around 25 years worth...

every other time he has had the opportunity to do so

he has CHOSEN not to

as much as i believe in miracles

and as much as i wish for the same as you

i wont be holding my breath

now will i be 'waiting around' to see 'if he pulls through'



i have a damn fine life to live

and i learnt recently

not to think with the heart



all the compassion in the world aint gunna help that man

only he can

but can he - when he's "sitting in a prison cell surrounded by criminals" ?


we're talkin bout him goin to live in some remote hut somewhere and truly get engaged with what life is supposed to be about ...


if you can imagine Prince stripped of everything he has - and willingly relinquishing all of it...

then i guess he'll b ok... but i dont see it happening



the mental damage and psycholgical scars and heart wounds are way too deep.



but like i said - i do believe in miracles.



Realistically Pessimistic
and Constructively Impatient,


sacred.
heart


With all due respect, what the fuck are you guys talking about????



Sounds like they're talking about a spiritual whoop ass. (queen wink )
lol lol
[Edited 7/9/06 16:17pm]
I AM BEATLOAF
www.myspace.com/teriteriboberi
www.stickam.com/profile/Beatloaf
www.myspace.com/americasfunnyman
www.stephenking.com
www.tomgreen.com

I'm my own favorite orger and that trumps any elitist list you guys can come up with.
Reply #152 posted 07/09/06 4:01pm

SlamGlam

HoneymoonXpress said:

This is a sign that Prince needs to get rid of that damned name, he's had it long enough...



i hope that as prince can PROVE he used NPG for publcations well before the nature group did... that HE can MAKE them stop using it and then stop using it anyway! but keep it to himself!
Reply #153 posted 07/09/06 4:08pm

CinisterCee

Nevermind the money he has invested in NPG branding and the market he affects.
Reply #154 posted 07/09/06 4:10pm

BartVanHemelen

Synergy said:

NPGMC was shut down the day that an opposition 2 it's trademark was filed. The opposing company HM Publishing filed trademark 4 everything under the sun... AFTER NPGMC and NPG records filed 4 trademark twice. It hasn't been said, but the club shut down the day the opposition was filed.

[Link http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91171672&pty=OPP&eno=1 - luv4u]


Just when I thought that the 1999 anti-fans lawsuits were hilarious, this props up. Sweet Jebus, when will that man realise that he's too stupid to run his own shit, and that the people he surrounds himself with are even less qualified?
© Bart Van Hemelen
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #155 posted 07/09/06 4:13pm

sacredwarrior

Terilicious said:

wonder505 said:



With all due respect, what the fuck are you guys talking about????



Sounds like they're talking about a spiritual whoop ass.
lol lol



New

Power

Generation



in 2006

ya gotta be humble to use those words in a musical context

ya gotta leave money behind

ya gotta leave fame behind

ya gotta have a good firm grip on what those words actually mean





heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #156 posted 07/09/06 4:16pm

jn2

Synergy said:

Whatever ppl, just passing on the news... do what U like with it.
zzz
Reply #157 posted 07/09/06 4:20pm

wonder505

sacredwarrior said:

Terilicious said:




Sounds like they're talking about a spiritual whoop ass.
lol lol



New

Power

Generation



in 2006

ya gotta be humble to use those words in a musical context

ya gotta leave money behind

ya gotta leave fame behind

ya gotta have a good firm grip on what those words actually mean


heart


How do you know he doesn't? We can talk about how Prince is a terrible businessman, but all this talk about "psychological scars" and "heart wounds" and the like, you don't know him. Unless you sit down and talk to him and find out the WHYS all you can do is draw conclusions based on one side of the story. Which we are all free to do, but I don't see how you can get all psychologically analytical and spiritually judgemental about a person you don't know.
Reply #158 posted 07/09/06 4:28pm

sacredwarrior

wonder505 said:

sacredwarrior said:




New

Power

Generation



in 2006

ya gotta be humble to use those words in a musical context

ya gotta leave money behind

ya gotta leave fame behind

ya gotta have a good firm grip on what those words actually mean


heart


How do you know he doesn't?



if he did

he'd never have listened to a damn word any sleaze ass lawyer had to say

he'd never have let fanatics run his website

he'd never have ammassed more and more excessive wealth

he'd never have done so many things that 'fans' conveniently overlook because the facts challenge their sense of attachment and loyalty to him



once upon a time he knew the meaning of those words

those days are over

o p e n y o u r e y e s


eye



and try not to get facts confused with 'judgement'


peace


heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #159 posted 07/09/06 4:51pm

wonder505

sacredwarrior said:

wonder505 said:



How do you know he doesn't?



if he did

he'd never have listened to a damn word any sleaze ass lawyer had to say

Okay, he's a bad businessman, somebody dropped the ball, but he had invested a lot in NPG and I do believe he is still passionate about the music and what it stands for.

he'd never have let fanatics run his website
I agree with you there. That was out of control.

he'd never have ammassed more and more excessive wealth
What are you jealous? Don't be unrealistic. Prince is a celebrity and a superstar and celebrities and superstars are rich. If you have a problem with him being rich then you should have checked out 20 years ago. Why you are still here, I don't know. His wealth is none of your business and if it bothers you so much, then log off and don't support him anymore.

he'd never have done so many things that 'fans' conveniently overlook because the facts challenge their sense of attachment and loyalty to him.
Perhaps "fans" are like me and not you, he's a musician and I'm just along for the ride. I don't get caught up in all unnecessary stuff. I am here because I like his music, I buy his music and if I can afford his concerts I go. It's not like he committed a horrible crime.

once upon a time he knew the meaning of those words. All a matter of personal opinion.

those days are over

o p e n y o u r e y e s

I've openend my eyes to know Prince makes bad decision business wise, however unless I know a person and understand from their perspective why they did things, I'm not gonna get all up in their psyche and their minds and try to act like I know him personally to make that sort of judgement.

However I appreciate your opinion and this exchange and its good that we all have the power to express that here.

and try not to get facts confused with 'judgement'


peace


heart[/b]

[Edited 7/9/06 16:56pm]
Reply #160 posted 07/09/06 5:19pm

PurpleCharm

sosgemini said:

falloff

lol
Reply #161 posted 07/09/06 5:41pm

obsessed

Synergy said:

avah12 said:

I wonder if this explains why the gray NPGMC logo has disappeared from the blank website, leaving just a black void now.


Yes, it more than likely is the reason, because according 2 the above letter sent 2 the lawyers representing Prince and PPE, the "NPG" more than likely cannot b used until the very least August 2, 2007 - when all testimony and Discovery must b submitted. I seriously doubt that it would b that soon as they would have 2 await a judgement from the governing committee.

I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

So, is this possible? Or am I just evil? lol lol lol

Oh and U're welcome on thanks 4 my research... Cool


lol Synergy, you're not evil.....

I understand what you're saying.....and I don't know much about the legal system...but wouldn't that just "tie things up even longer"? confused
Reply #162 posted 07/09/06 5:44pm

moonshine

Bearing in mind the comment on the other "NPGMC closes" thread about how
the website was bleeding money as Prince couldnt turn the NPGMC members into
regular customers effectively , it begs the question why was he even thinking
of selling books through the website when he couldnt sell all the other
gimmicky non-music stuff . Message to Prince : the only way you'll
effectively sell any books ( which most likely will be full of JW
propoganda anyway ) successfully through your website is if you provide a circular bookmark with them which , when inserted into CD players , plays some unreleased music on it , cos thats all that the vast majority of us are interested in purchasing from you , not candles , not jerseys , not perfume , just the music that attracted us to your kooky world in the first place confused .
Check out Chocadelica , updated with Lotusflow3r and MPLSound album lyrics April 2nd 2009 :
http://homepage.ntlworld....home2.html
Reply #163 posted 07/09/06 5:51pm

Watchman

theoriginalQueenB said:

lightning rainbo

.....since my attention has been drawn here~allow B a moment 2 step on thru...

compassionate Synergy, truly U could not know how much eye hear & feel the passion U express on this as it seems U mayb tripping down a road this one knows all 2 well.....a great teacher told B once, "Everything is information, its all about how you attach yourself to it!"

...may B suggest U utilize your skills of research & indignation 2 reach out 2 the individuals within the (NPG) community that has been impacted rather than fruitlessly expend your precious benevolence on an individual who has YET 2 know the meaning of reciprocal action....

.....(eye will try my Best not 2 get personal) review his patterns of behavior N the past few years & perhaps recognize this is more of the same: litigation against fans who have the audacity 2 use his (name)symbol 2 set up websites devoted 2 support & expansion of his music/product/events/news N the wider world, establishing a website 2 sell 'product' 2 fans that they never receive or get refunded 4 (can any1 say 'Crystal Ball'), promote 2 NPGers preferential seating @ concerts-(any NPGers from the 3/2/02 soundcheck out there?)did Ticketmaster know? & any number of occasions U or any of the general public could know nothing about....


....speaking as 'shawdow 2 the sun' it has definately been painful (Spiritual) lessons that has garnered my discernment between Assistance & Enabling....let B assure U that this portion of the Madnesty (yes Terilicious coined the phrase)is but a meager portion of the plethora of concerns on Prince's list having arrived 2 the season of 'reap what U sow'.....supporting him 2 continued N the same behavior WILL NOT promote the healing & growth so badly needed & guarantee expansion of the soul damage already incurred....

.....eye 4 one send petitions & energy 2 the universe 4 his healing, balance & growth that the Better man might emerge N the flesh & a new musical message may emanate from this one whom eye remember from B4 we were born wink

....snap, loveletter & scaredwarrior ~ eye hear ya'll 2 ~ without a doubt

yo Teri, thanks 4 telling B about this thread

dove
queen B



The outWord ripple affectINg
the + sign wav's resip proCreating
liv2luv & luv2liv
then drink again, B
He saved the best 4 Last


eye
Reply #164 posted 07/09/06 5:54pm

sosgemini

Watchman said:

theoriginalQueenB said:

lightning rainbo

.....since my attention has been drawn here~allow B a moment 2 step on thru...

compassionate Synergy, truly U could not know how much eye hear & feel the passion U express on this as it seems U mayb tripping down a road this one knows all 2 well.....a great teacher told B once, "Everything is information, its all about how you attach yourself to it!"

...may B suggest U utilize your skills of research & indignation 2 reach out 2 the individuals within the (NPG) community that has been impacted rather than fruitlessly expend your precious benevolence on an individual who has YET 2 know the meaning of reciprocal action....

.....(eye will try my Best not 2 get personal) review his patterns of behavior N the past few years & perhaps recognize this is more of the same: litigation against fans who have the audacity 2 use his (name)symbol 2 set up websites devoted 2 support & expansion of his music/product/events/news N the wider world, establishing a website 2 sell 'product' 2 fans that they never receive or get refunded 4 (can any1 say 'Crystal Ball'), promote 2 NPGers preferential seating @ concerts-(any NPGers from the 3/2/02 soundcheck out there?)did Ticketmaster know? & any number of occasions U or any of the general public could know nothing about....


....speaking as 'shawdow 2 the sun' it has definately been painful (Spiritual) lessons that has garnered my discernment between Assistance & Enabling....let B assure U that this portion of the Madnesty (yes Terilicious coined the phrase)is but a meager portion of the plethora of concerns on Prince's list having arrived 2 the season of 'reap what U sow'.....supporting him 2 continued N the same behavior WILL NOT promote the healing & growth so badly needed & guarantee expansion of the soul damage already incurred....

.....eye 4 one send petitions & energy 2 the universe 4 his healing, balance & growth that the Better man might emerge N the flesh & a new musical message may emanate from this one whom eye remember from B4 we were born wink

....snap, loveletter & scaredwarrior ~ eye hear ya'll 2 ~ without a doubt

yo Teri, thanks 4 telling B about this thread

dove
queen B



The outWord ripple affectINg
the + sign wav's resip proCreating
liv2luv & luv2liv
then drink again, B
He saved the best 4 Last


eye



okay now, this one i dont get...can somebody translate?

cool
Space for sale...
Reply #165 posted 07/09/06 5:55pm

PurpleCharm

OMG...this thread is getting more bizarre by the hour. nuts
Reply #166 posted 07/09/06 6:44pm

Fauxie

sacredwarrior said:

wonder505 said:



How do you know he doesn't?



if he did

he'd never have listened to a damn word any sleaze ass lawyer had to say

he'd never have let fanatics run his website

he'd never have ammassed more and more excessive wealth

he'd never have done so many things that 'fans' conveniently overlook because the facts challenge their sense of attachment and loyalty to him



once upon a time he knew the meaning of those words

those days are over

o p e n y o u r e y e s


eye



and try not to get facts confused with 'judgement'


peace


heart


yes

w o w !

every stylised post a work of art

u n t i l y o u r e a d t h e m

heart

fart
Reply #167 posted 07/09/06 7:13pm

SummerRain

How come after Prince played "I feel for you" on the BET awards 06 I almost lost my mind excited because I thought they were going straight into controversy!!!!! faint worship fallinluv guitar bananadance cloud9
[Edited 7/9/06 19:14pm]
Reply #168 posted 07/09/06 8:26pm

PurpleKnight

Watchman said:

theoriginalQueenB said:

lightning rainbo

.....since my attention has been drawn here~allow B a moment 2 step on thru...

compassionate Synergy, truly U could not know how much eye hear & feel the passion U express on this as it seems U mayb tripping down a road this one knows all 2 well.....a great teacher told B once, "Everything is information, its all about how you attach yourself to it!"

...may B suggest U utilize your skills of research & indignation 2 reach out 2 the individuals within the (NPG) community that has been impacted rather than fruitlessly expend your precious benevolence on an individual who has YET 2 know the meaning of reciprocal action....

.....(eye will try my Best not 2 get personal) review his patterns of behavior N the past few years & perhaps recognize this is more of the same: litigation against fans who have the audacity 2 use his (name)symbol 2 set up websites devoted 2 support & expansion of his music/product/events/news N the wider world, establishing a website 2 sell 'product' 2 fans that they never receive or get refunded 4 (can any1 say 'Crystal Ball'), promote 2 NPGers preferential seating @ concerts-(any NPGers from the 3/2/02 soundcheck out there?)did Ticketmaster know? & any number of occasions U or any of the general public could know nothing about....


....speaking as 'shawdow 2 the sun' it has definately been painful (Spiritual) lessons that has garnered my discernment between Assistance & Enabling....let B assure U that this portion of the Madnesty (yes Terilicious coined the phrase)is but a meager portion of the plethora of concerns on Prince's list having arrived 2 the season of 'reap what U sow'.....supporting him 2 continued N the same behavior WILL NOT promote the healing & growth so badly needed & guarantee expansion of the soul damage already incurred....

.....eye 4 one send petitions & energy 2 the universe 4 his healing, balance & growth that the Better man might emerge N the flesh & a new musical message may emanate from this one whom eye remember from B4 we were born wink

....snap, loveletter & scaredwarrior ~ eye hear ya'll 2 ~ without a doubt

yo Teri, thanks 4 telling B about this thread

dove
queen B



The outWord ripple affectINg
the + sign wav's resip proCreating
liv2luv & luv2liv
then drink again, B
He saved the best 4 Last


eye


This is when I hate Prince fans. Seriously, what the FUCK does that mean? Nothing worse than a Prince fam who tries to be deep by creating his own lame Princely poetic ramblings.

eye saw u in the stream of CONsciousness n the rainbow spoke 2 me
a dream neverending like the tears n ur eyes
could u b GOD 2 me as eye am 2 the stars n c?

It's just annoying.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
Reply #169 posted 07/09/06 8:31pm

CinisterCee

lol Look at this ironic post from the first thread "NPGMC NO MORE!!!"


CinisterCee said:

Babes, it's not like NPG Ltd. has been written off. confused


zipped
Reply #170 posted 07/09/06 8:42pm

funkydiva

So what would be a good name for the New Club?

How about the TFS MUSIC CLUB..... True Funk Soliders Music Club.....TFSMC
no 3121
no more NPG.. Jus' True Funk Soliders.....Unite!!!!
[Edited 7/9/06 20:42pm]
Reply #171 posted 07/09/06 8:54pm

Watchman

PurpleKnight said:

Watchman said:




The outWord ripple affectINg
the + sign wav's resip proCreating
liv2luv & luv2liv
then drink again, B
He saved the best 4 Last


eye


This is when I hate Prince fans. Seriously, what the FUCK does that mean? Nothing worse than a Prince fam who tries to be deep by creating his own lame Princely poetic ramblings.

eye saw u in the stream of CONsciousness n the rainbow spoke 2 me
a dream neverending like the tears n ur eyes
could u b GOD 2 me as eye am 2 the stars n c?

It's just annoying.


I did not mean to offend with my words, hoping the intended audience would understand.

eye
Reply #172 posted 07/09/06 8:55pm

RockNRoll

funkydiva said:

So what would be a good name for the New Club?





How about TNPSC. The New Power Sheep Club smile


Okay OKay, I just had to lol
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #173 posted 07/09/06 8:59pm

funkydiva

RockNRoll said:

funkydiva said:

So what would be a good name for the New Club?





How about TNPSC. The New Power Sheep Club smile


Okay OKay, I just had to lol


Baaaa Baaaa lol
Reply #174 posted 07/09/06 9:09pm

ZsaZsaZsu

softandwet said:

Perhaps people who are confused should check out the thread on the HQ. It seems less muddled than this thread!

Basically all it is is that the Nature Publishing Group want to stop Prince 'selling books' which they believe would infringe on their 'NPG' and possibly confuse people into believing princes NPG was in fact the Nature Publishing Group. Hence why he can still sell NPG music, clothes and gear. Any lawsuit against NPG Records would flop entirely I'm sure and I thought they'd pulled out of that one anyway.

As for why the site has closed down, well maybe he just decided to close it down after that and was thinking about a change anyway? Who knows! I doubt we'll fully find out I suppose.


I agree with your above statement. The legal fight is about the "NPG" acronym, not the New Power Generation name. More than likely the law will favor HG on the NPG acronym which Prince will have to "cease and desist" his own NPG name and website...sound familar yall?? Anyway, not hope is lost. This will give Prince and Paisley Park a reason to come up with a new name (with no legal boundaries), a new website, and new rec. label name. Maybe he should create a new name contest...another self-promo idea to buy more Prince music...ya dig?
The one and only Technagirl
Reply #175 posted 07/09/06 9:14pm

RockNRoll

You know Prince; he will prevail as he always does smile
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #176 posted 07/09/06 9:27pm

BSK3601

Fauxie said:

sacredwarrior said:




if he did

he'd never have listened to a damn word any sleaze ass lawyer had to say

he'd never have let fanatics run his website

he'd never have ammassed more and more excessive wealth

he'd never have done so many things that 'fans' conveniently overlook because the facts challenge their sense of attachment and loyalty to him



once upon a time he knew the meaning of those words

those days are over

o p e n y o u r e y e s


eye



and try not to get facts confused with 'judgement'


peace


heart


yes

w o w !

every stylised post a work of art

u n t i l y o u r e a d t h e m

heart

fart


^^ Classic ^^ falloff
Reply #177 posted 07/09/06 9:34pm

sosgemini

funkydiva said:

So what would be a good name for the New Club?

How about the TFS MUSIC CLUB..... True Funk Soliders Music Club.....TFSMC
no 3121
no more NPG.. Jus' True Funk Soliders.....Unite!!!!




no...no more korny names...

i want something original...something none of us could come up with...or something so simple and basic we all say, "now how come he never used that before?".

he can do it... but more then likely it will be korny.
Space for sale...
Reply #178 posted 07/09/06 10:00pm

jone70

sosgemini said:

funkydiva said:

So what would be a good name for the New Club?

How about the TFS MUSIC CLUB..... True Funk Soliders Music Club.....TFSMC
no 3121
no more NPG.. Jus' True Funk Soliders.....Unite!!!!




no...no more korny names...

i want something original...something none of us could come up with...or something so simple and basic we all say, "now how come he never used that before?".

he can do it... but more then likely it will be korny.



How about www.prince.com? (Or is that too similiar to prince.org?)

Or www.ecnirp.com?

Or www.purplemusic.com? Damn, just checked and purplemusic.com is the official website of John McKenna's "music for the new millenium." falloff Prince missed out on that one...

Oooh wait, I got it: www.prince.com! (I typed it out as O ( + > ,but the org automatically read it as prince) I think Prince has the market cornered on copyrighting/trademarking that, right? So it's perfect! lol
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
Reply #179 posted 07/09/06 10:08pm

Synergy

theoriginalQueenB said:

lightning rainbo

.....since my attention has been drawn here~allow B a moment 2 step on thru...

compassionate Synergy, truly U could not know how much eye hear & feel the passion U express on this as it seems U mayb tripping down a road this one knows all 2 well.....a great teacher told B once, "Everything is information, its all about how you attach yourself to it!"

...may B suggest U utilize your skills of research & indignation 2 reach out 2 the individuals within the (NPG) community that has been impacted rather than fruitlessly expend your precious benevolence on an individual who has YET 2 know the meaning of reciprocal action....

.....(eye will try my Best not 2 get personal) review his patterns of behavior N the past few years & perhaps recognize this is more of the same: litigation against fans who have the audacity 2 use his (name)symbol 2 set up websites devoted 2 support & expansion of his music/product/events/news N the wider world, establishing a website 2 sell 'product' 2 fans that they never receive or get refunded 4 (can any1 say 'Crystal Ball'), promote 2 NPGers preferential seating @ concerts-(any NPGers from the 3/2/02 soundcheck out there?)did Ticketmaster know? & any number of occasions U or any of the general public could know nothing about....


....speaking as 'shawdow 2 the sun' it has definately been painful (Spiritual) lessons that has garnered my discernment between Assistance & Enabling....let B assure U that this portion of the Madnesty (yes Terilicious coined the phrase)is but a meager portion of the plethora of concerns on Prince's list having arrived 2 the season of 'reap what U sow'.....supporting him 2 continued N the same behavior WILL NOT promote the healing & growth so badly needed & guarantee expansion of the soul damage already incurred....

.....eye 4 one send petitions & energy 2 the universe 4 his healing, balance & growth that the Better man might emerge N the flesh & a new musical message may emanate from this one whom eye remember from B4 we were born wink

....snap, loveletter & scaredwarrior ~ eye hear ya'll 2 ~ without a doubt

yo Teri, thanks 4 telling B about this thread

dove
queen B


First, my time and energy is spent serving r radio station and the artists that we feature there on a daily basis. Second, Emancipation Radio stands 4 freedom 4 all ppl, including Prince's right 2 use the "NPG" - which patent was filed 4 b4 the other company and there4 governed under "Common Law".

I haven't played Dr. Suess in a while, so U will excuse me if I am of the mind that U'r reply - while in appearance seems directed at me - r words meant 4 someone else's ears.

Again, we have through The Holy River and Emancipation Radio been seeing 2 all the NPGMC members that have come 2 us hurt.We have been working on overdrive since the closing of the club.

And, while I am grateful U recognize my passion in helping others, I must leave U rest assured that I help all my fellow NPGMC members, my friends, family, loved ones that come 2 me in need - no one is discluded.

R meetups have been wonderful and fun; something I missed... and it will only get better - that will bring a healing 2 some... We have posted links here 4 an "NPGMC Meet" up 2 b held on every Monday, Thursday and Saturday and we have broadcasted many shows 4 the NPG MC Members 2 get them through this time. We r doing r part.

2 me, we r a community - a family - if confusion reigns then we have all failed one another, haven't we? It's better that the truth of the situation b out there and clear - AND that is what I am doing here.

Lastly, life is 2 short 2 spend it thinking about the past wrongs of anyone, U 4give and move on. It lightens U'r soul and keeps U freer and happier... the past is the past, it's better left there. I was a part of all the things U mentioned, the failed delivery of CB - 1800NewFunk - L4OA - I know... But THIS, is an entirely different matter.
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #180 posted 07/09/06 10:17pm

Snap

ZsaZsaZsu said:

Maybe he should create a new name contest...


Actually, a few years back, maybe more, his website did ask us what Prince should name his band if he changed it from NPG to something new. Anyone remember that? But, like 'most always, nothing ever came of it. I don't remember even getting to see the suggestions.
Reply #181 posted 07/09/06 11:14pm

origmnd

Snap said:

ZsaZsaZsu said:

Maybe he should create a new name contest...


Actually, a few years back, maybe more, his website did ask us what Prince should name his band if he changed it from NPG to something new. Anyone remember that? But, like 'most always, nothing ever came of it. I don't remember even getting to see the suggestions.



I remember that--it was thru prince family i think. Actually one of my suggestions became a song title.

BTW, was it a coincidence that they stopped NEW MEMBERSHIPS awhile BEFORE the SHUTDOWN ?
Reply #182 posted 07/10/06 12:31am

sacredwarrior

wonder505 said:

It's not like he committed a horrible crime.[/color]


i guess it depends on ur definition of 'horrible crime'
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #183 posted 07/10/06 1:03am

CalhounSq

I'm not gonna read all these but apparently it's cryptic muthafucka time on the Org neutral
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
Reply #184 posted 07/10/06 1:29am

MamaLisa

So that whole "cos of the webby awards we want to revamp" e-mail was complete and utter bullshit...

how about just once he tells us the truth.. remember that song??? after all.. it is our money that he is playing with...

how about.. "we are having some issues.. and appreicate your support and patience during this time.. the site may be back up under a different name yada yada yada...

not making us think they are doing us a favor.. 2 much deception.. brings about what comes around when you constantly fuck up.. and he does.

thanx for letting me vent.. im so pissed off.. feel used and abused.. but hey.. if im gonna stay a prince fam.. i better get used to that eh?
Music is the power.
Love is the message.
Truth is the answer.
Reply #185 posted 07/10/06 2:11am

jaypotton

Man it's so obvious what Prince should do (isn't it?).

a) Use this as an opportunity to "retire" the tired NPG moniker (it became tired around the mid 90s)*

b) The music club was 95% about Prince's music (with some "friends") so what is so wrong with having the "PrinceMusicClub"?

c) Use this as an opportunity to finally give Prince (and us) the online presence he really deserves...open The Vault!

* I am sure there is $$$ worth of unsold merchandise with the NPGMC logos on it so this might be something he has to swallow destroying?
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #186 posted 07/10/06 2:21am

Alasseon

Maybe he should have spoken to Vince McMahon...


( WWF for years, a trademark for the World Wrestling Federation, millions of dollars in merchandise, prominently featured on various broadcasts in millions of homes, is contested by the World Wildlife Fund.

The WWF then becomes WWE, with an emphasis on "E"ntertainment, and the money machine rolls on.)
batman guitar

Some people tell me I've got great legs...
Reply #187 posted 07/10/06 2:54am

PurpleCharm

PurpleKnight said:

Watchman said:




The outWord ripple affectINg
the + sign wav's resip proCreating
liv2luv & luv2liv
then drink again, B
He saved the best 4 Last


eye


This is when I hate Prince fans. Seriously, what the FUCK does that mean? Nothing worse than a Prince fam who tries to be deep by creating his own lame Princely poetic ramblings.

eye saw u in the stream of CONsciousness n the rainbow spoke 2 me
a dream neverending like the tears n ur eyes
could u b GOD 2 me as eye am 2 the stars n c?

It's just annoying.


spit
Reply #188 posted 07/10/06 3:26am

beatz01

Alasseon said:

Maybe he should have spoken to Vince McMahon...


( WWF for years, a trademark for the World Wrestling Federation, millions of dollars in merchandise, prominently featured on various broadcasts in millions of homes, is contested by the World Wildlife Fund.

The WWF then becomes WWE, with an emphasis on "E"ntertainment, and the money machine rolls on.)


As a side effect, i register the domain wwf.com for $8.75 when it drops (because of mentioned ruling they had to release - not transfer - all the wwf domains as well) and sell it for $ xxxxx a month later (way too low but i needed cash).

Guess those were my 15 minutes of fame in the domain world smile
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Reply #189 posted 07/10/06 4:42am

softandwet

thats funny, cos when I type in www.wwf.com it comes up with a search engine type website, and nothing at all to do with the WWF or the WWE. Telling porkies are we? Or did you end up selling to a weird search engine! I'd be glad if you did, the thought of taking thousands off of a charity doesn't appeal to me!
Reply #190 posted 07/10/06 4:48am

ian

funkydiva said:

So what would be a good name for the New Club?

How about the TFS MUSIC CLUB..... True Funk Soliders Music Club.....TFSMC
no 3121
no more NPG.. Jus' True Funk Soliders.....Unite!!!!
[Edited 7/9/06 20:42pm]


This might stupid but... how about "The Prince Music Club".

I mean let's face it, it's all about Prince!




(And Tamar, and Tony M, obviously)
Reply #191 posted 07/10/06 4:52am

ian

softandwet said:

thats funny, cos when I type in www.wwf.com it comes up with a search engine type website, and nothing at all to do with the WWF or the WWE. Telling porkies are we? Or did you end up selling to a weird search engine! I'd be glad if you did, the thought of taking thousands off of a charity doesn't appeal to me!


I doubt that WWF would be interested in the dot com domain - they aren't a commercial organisation or individual, they are a nonprofit organisation so the dot org is a better fit IMO.
Reply #192 posted 07/10/06 5:19am

SquirrelMeat

So can I get a load of free books now that I am a lifetime member of the NPG? I'm going to basingstoke..... wink
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Reply #193 posted 07/10/06 5:29am

sacredwarrior

PurpleKnight said:



This is when I hate Prince fans. Seriously, what the FUCK does that mean? Nothing worse than a Prince fam who tries to be deep by creating his own lame Princely poetic ramblings.

eye saw u in the stream of CONsciousness n the rainbow spoke 2 me
a dream neverending like the tears n ur eyes
could u b GOD 2 me as eye am 2 the stars n c?

It's just annoying.



Prince didnt invent that method of writing

It was 'invented' by a group of people in 1973

So blame them

Prince got the blame enough for plenty other things already lol
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #194 posted 07/10/06 6:18am

RockNRoll

MamaLisa said:

So that whole "cos of the webby awards we want to revamp" e-mail was complete and utter bullshit...

how about just once he tells us the truth.. remember that song??? after all.. it is our money that he is playing with...

how about.. "we are having some issues.. and appreicate your support and patience during this time.. the site may be back up under a different name yada yada yada...

not making us think they are doing us a favor.. 2 much deception.. brings about what comes around when you constantly fuck up.. and he does.

thanx for letting me vent.. im so pissed off.. feel used and abused.. but hey.. if im gonna stay a prince fam.. i better get used to that eh?



I guess you just witnessed that Prince makes NO exceptions. Don't feel to bad though, because, the club was actually doing nobody any good.
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

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Reply #195 posted 07/10/06 6:28am

sosgemini

Synergy said:

theoriginalQueenB said:

lightning rainbo

.....since my attention has been drawn here~allow B a moment 2 step on thru...

compassionate Synergy, truly U could not know how much eye hear & feel the passion U express on this as it seems U mayb tripping down a road this one knows all 2 well.....a great teacher told B once, "Everything is information, its all about how you attach yourself to it!"

...may B suggest U utilize your skills of research & indignation 2 reach out 2 the individuals within the (NPG) community that has been impacted rather than fruitlessly expend your precious benevolence on an individual who has YET 2 know the meaning of reciprocal action....

.....(eye will try my Best not 2 get personal) review his patterns of behavior N the past few years & perhaps recognize this is more of the same: litigation against fans who have the audacity 2 use his (name)symbol 2 set up websites devoted 2 support & expansion of his music/product/events/news N the wider world, establishing a website 2 sell 'product' 2 fans that they never receive or get refunded 4 (can any1 say 'Crystal Ball'), promote 2 NPGers preferential seating @ concerts-(any NPGers from the 3/2/02 soundcheck out there?)did Ticketmaster know? & any number of occasions U or any of the general public could know nothing about....


....speaking as 'shawdow 2 the sun' it has definately been painful (Spiritual) lessons that has garnered my discernment between Assistance & Enabling....let B assure U that this portion of the Madnesty (yes Terilicious coined the phrase)is but a meager portion of the plethora of concerns on Prince's list having arrived 2 the season of 'reap what U sow'.....supporting him 2 continued N the same behavior WILL NOT promote the healing & growth so badly needed & guarantee expansion of the soul damage already incurred....

.....eye 4 one send petitions & energy 2 the universe 4 his healing, balance & growth that the Better man might emerge N the flesh & a new musical message may emanate from this one whom eye remember from B4 we were born wink

....snap, loveletter & scaredwarrior ~ eye hear ya'll 2 ~ without a doubt

yo Teri, thanks 4 telling B about this thread

dove
queen B


First, my time and energy is spent serving r radio station and the artists that we feature there on a daily basis. Second, Emancipation Radio stands 4 freedom 4 all ppl, including Prince's right 2 use the "NPG" - which patent was filed 4 b4 the other company and there4 governed under "Common Law".

I haven't played Dr. Suess in a while, so U will excuse me if I am of the mind that U'r reply - while in appearance seems directed at me - r words meant 4 someone else's ears.

Again, we have through The Holy River and Emancipation Radio been seeing 2 all the NPGMC members that have come 2 us hurt.We have been working on overdrive since the closing of the club.

And, while I am grateful U recognize my passion in helping others, I must leave U rest assured that I help all my fellow NPGMC members, my friends, family, loved ones that come 2 me in need - no one is discluded.

R meetups have been wonderful and fun; something I missed... and it will only get better - that will bring a healing 2 some... We have posted links here 4 an "NPGMC Meet" up 2 b held on every Monday, Thursday and Saturday and we have broadcasted many shows 4 the NPG MC Members 2 get them through this time. We r doing r part.

2 me, we r a community - a family - if confusion reigns then we have all failed one another, haven't we? It's better that the truth of the situation b out there and clear - AND that is what I am doing here.

Lastly, life is 2 short 2 spend it thinking about the past wrongs of anyone, U 4give and move on. It lightens U'r soul and keeps U freer and happier... the past is the past, it's better left there. I was a part of all the things U mentioned, the failed delivery of CB - 1800NewFunk - L4OA - I know... But THIS, is an entirely different matter.


could someone provide us with a cliff notes version...the red font and princebonics make my head hurt. headache
Space for sale...
Reply #196 posted 07/10/06 7:40am

wonder505

MamaLisa said:

So that whole "cos of the webby awards we want to revamp" e-mail was complete and utter bullshit...

how about just once he tells us the truth.. remember that song??? after all.. it is our money that he is playing with...

how about.. "we are having some issues.. and appreicate your support and patience during this time.. the site may be back up under a different name yada yada yada...

not making us think they are doing us a favor.. 2 much deception.. brings about what comes around when you constantly fuck up.. and he does.

thanx for letting me vent.. im so pissed off.. feel used and abused.. but hey.. if im gonna stay a prince fam.. i better get used to that eh?


You "feel used and abused". Are you serious? I'm sorry but I just don't understand why some people are taking this so personally and seriously. Its one thing to say that he could have just told us the truth and how he looks stupid, but its another thing to say you feel "abused". I mean COME ON!!!

I'm not saying we should blindly accept anything he does or says, but if its gets to the point where I'm feeling "abused", then hell, I am OUTTA HERE.
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Reply #197 posted 07/10/06 7:48am

TheBluePrince

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

purplecam said:


I have to agree. it's overstayed it's welcome for about 10 years now. it's time for a change.

too true.


But is it only the name (NPG, NPG Records, NPGMC, NPG Music Club) that's a jeopardy here? How will this effect items owned by Prince or the NPG label, that have the "NPG" name all over them...? Every page, every disc, every file...

I guessed I'ma little concerned.
Blue music
Reply #198 posted 07/10/06 7:48am

RockNRoll

wonder505 said:

MamaLisa said:

So that whole "cos of the webby awards we want to revamp" e-mail was complete and utter bullshit...

how about just once he tells us the truth.. remember that song??? after all.. it is our money that he is playing with...

how about.. "we are having some issues.. and appreicate your support and patience during this time.. the site may be back up under a different name yada yada yada...

not making us think they are doing us a favor.. 2 much deception.. brings about what comes around when you constantly fuck up.. and he does.

thanx for letting me vent.. im so pissed off.. feel used and abused.. but hey.. if im gonna stay a prince fam.. i better get used to that eh?


You "feel used and abused". Are you serious? I'm sorry but I just don't understand why some people are taking this so personally and seriously. Its one thing to say that he could have just told us the truth and how he looks stupid, but its another thing to say you feel "abused". I mean COME ON!!!

I'm not saying we should blindly accept anything he does or says, but if its gets to the point where I'm feeling "abused", then hell, I am OUTTA HERE.
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Wonder505, well said!




Thing is, MamaLisa is not the only one feeling this way.


MamaLisa: READ MY SIG
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #199 posted 07/10/06 8:01am

Giovanni777

PurpleCharm said:

Giovanni777 said:

Personal crises can fuel creativity, but mundane legal crises, and unitelligent ignorant criticism can stump it.

In terms of all the catty banter on here about him getting what was coming 2 him, and "OH... he should have told us what was really hapenening", and "couldn't he have given us more notice"...

Y'all R some serious backstabbers. I dedicate the classic O'Jays song 2 U.

If Prince would take my advice on just one thing, I'd tell him 2 stay clear away from the internet. I mean, criticism and opinions R both natural and acceptable, but an artist needs not 2 be reading this kind, if they wish 2 be an open channel 4 creativity.

I thought Synergy's idea was brilliant... it may not need 2 be implemented, but at least there's thought there, instead of whining.

... double PEACE 2 WONDER505 4 the above comment.

Peace.

ALSO... Prince may see this as a sign 4 change. Therefore, he was being honest in saying it was time 2 move on. If U have the perspective that everything happens 4 a reason, then this is more than just a problem or a fight... it's a sign. I was personally tired of NPG anyway.

G.
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nod



Thanks, Gorgeous. At least someone gets it.
"He's a musician's musician..."
Reply #200 posted 07/10/06 9:02am

jamael8

Synergy said:

First of all, We have always *lived* in the real world... Stop the stupid, Sheep following their master shit, it's getting old... and tired. U don't know me... or else U'd know that I am no one's sheep, understand?

Prince is not a GOD, he is a Man... yes, there is MORE 2 the story - but if U took 2 seconds 2 read all that I put up, U will see that this is far more than a club. This could affect the NPG label eventually.

And maybe Prince is just dang tired of fighting people's stupid assinine lawsuits and he will go retire somewhere, but the thing is that whatever music would have,or has been published under the banner of "NPG" could b caput.

I have never seen such bitterness... and ppl thought those of us that played in the Member's Connection were screwy? Puh-leese!

Hey, I am not talking about a million member march - I am talking about giving a company a little hell 4 a minute... I am talking that MORE than likely the NPGMC probably had no choice 2 close the minute that letter was in their hands or face even bigger problems legally set forth in the letter..

GET me? The letter was mailed 2 them late on the eve of a National Holiday 2 force their hand and make them comply without any chance of asking 4 an extension of the use of the name NPG until the date of determination... it's a underhanded trick that A LOT of lawyers will readily admit 2 using.

I mean, Come on... U wanted a reason, U got one - whatever the hell else is going on, as it does NOT apply 2 us, is NONE of our business. And a little FYI, Most of us r out here in the real world working 2 make peoples lives BETTER - and that says a wrong is a WRONG. I don't care who the person wronged is... and a truly altruistic person doesn't distinguish between them.

Bottom line, what should any of the members' care what Prince or his legal team would like us 2 do? It's not about HIM - it's about the Music and the access that was taken away from us over a frivilous battle. Else, U explain 2 me how a confused affiliation with an International Superstar's Trademark hurts that business? We're talking an International superstar that is a vegetarian and has won awards 4 honoring nature and championing causes that r against cruelty 2 animals and pro-environment somehow being a detriment 2 A NATURE Publication, explain that?

His hands, the NPGMC's hands were tied - they had 2 shut down on reciept of that letter... and more than likely, advised by counsel, were told 2 NOT say EXACTLY what was going on due 2 pending litigation, thus the new direction BS.


lol lol Tell them Synergy, Tell them!!!!!
lol lol
Reply #201 posted 07/10/06 9:04am

LaLaLaaHeHeHee

Everytime you get some, people wanna take it back!!!!!

I'm sure Prince has enough fight in him to crush this pathetic claim to his trading rights. Have faith, because this will not stop him. It can't be easy when you are that talented, there's ALWAYS someone lurking behind you wanting to take credit.

If that was your father, tell me would you dogg him then?
Reply #202 posted 07/10/06 9:13am

Greg55403

How ironic. Isn't karma a bi...
"All Hail King Bart!"
Reply #203 posted 07/10/06 9:31am

FirstLight

I hate bureaucracy. HATE IT! I used to be big on trademarking things, copyrighting, and all of that, but as you see, there is so much bulls**t that goes down....I hate greed, I hate the shady behaviors, etc....people just need to get along and "do the work" and let others "do the work" without being so damn picky about everything.

NPGMC, I hope that you make it through this tribulation. The enemy is always trying to keep a good man down.
Reply #204 posted 07/10/06 9:43am

sag10

Lord have mercy!
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Reply #205 posted 07/10/06 10:08am

Shorty

welp....I just found out about the club closing today.... I will admit, I'm bummed out, shocked and left wondering but...hey what are ya gonna do? I actually hope he doesn't tour this year....I hate to think of going through ticketmaster again...ugh! Oh well, we'll have to wait and see what's the next thing to come I guess.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
Reply #206 posted 07/10/06 10:54am

tymechaser

one man has toured giving us the gift of song and dance for over 28 years this man has lost a wife a baby both of his parents and still tours making and giving us a happy day with his music. I hope u realize how great and how much a gift to us he really is . never miss a good thing till its gone. and these people attacking him need to get a life. leave him alone . what more can he give us. he deserves every penny he has ever made.tell these npg wanna b's to back up get a drink sit down and come up with your own name.the man works hard as hell and makes its look easy but any educated person knows it takes hard work and practice to make it look easy.
Reply #207 posted 07/10/06 12:21pm

wonder505

tymechaser said:

one man has toured giving us the gift of song and dance for over 28 years this man has lost a wife a baby both of his parents and still tours making and giving us a happy day with his music. I hope u realize how great and how much a gift to us he really is . never miss a good thing till its gone. and these people attacking him need to get a life. leave him alone . what more can he give us. he deserves every penny he has ever made.tell these npg wanna b's to back up get a drink sit down and come up with your own name.the man works hard as hell and makes its look easy but any educated person knows it takes hard work and practice to make it look easy.


AMEN!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
Reply #208 posted 07/10/06 12:32pm

sosgemini

tymechaser said:

one man has toured giving us the gift of song and dance for over 28 years this man has lost a wife a baby both of his parents and still tours making and giving us a happy day with his music. I hope u realize how great and how much a gift to us he really is . never miss a good thing till its gone. and these people attacking him need to get a life. leave him alone . what more can he give us. he deserves every penny he has ever made.tell these npg wanna b's to back up get a drink sit down and come up with your own name.the man works hard as hell and makes its look easy but any educated person knows it takes hard work and practice to make it look easy.



any educated person should also understand that the key to any relationship (busines or personal) is communication.

lol
Space for sale...
Reply #209 posted 07/10/06 1:20pm

HeyJude

sosgemini said:

tymechaser said:

one man has toured giving us the gift of song and dance for over 28 years this man has lost a wife a baby both of his parents and still tours making and giving us a happy day with his music. I hope u realize how great and how much a gift to us he really is . never miss a good thing till its gone. and these people attacking him need to get a life. leave him alone . what more can he give us. he deserves every penny he has ever made.tell these npg wanna b's to back up get a drink sit down and come up with your own name.the man works hard as hell and makes its look easy but any educated person knows it takes hard work and practice to make it look easy.



any educated person should also understand that the key to any relationship (busines or personal) is communication.

lol


honesty is nice as well.
Reply #210 posted 07/10/06 1:50pm

Snap

tymechaser said:

one man has toured giving us the gift of song and dance for over 28 years this man has lost a wife a baby both of his parents and still tours making and giving us a happy day with his music. I hope u realize how great and how much a gift to us he really is . never miss a good thing till its gone. and these people attacking him need to get a life. leave him alone . what more can he give us. he deserves every penny he has ever made.tell these npg wanna b's to back up get a drink sit down and come up with your own name.the man works hard as hell and makes its look easy but any educated person knows it takes hard work and practice to make it look easy.


You use the words "gift" and "giving" as if Prince does all of this for us. I'm very thankful that we're able to reap from what he sows, but I hardly consider Prince much of a giving person. He drains one source dry and he runs to the next without a thank you or goodbye. I don't see much giving in that. Hello.
Reply #211 posted 07/10/06 2:11pm

Ifsixwuz9

hmm I just skimmed through this thread and Synergy your hearts in the right place but I wouldn't spend too much free time trying to solve this problem for P. Thanks for posting the info though.

Ian- good point. I'm not attached to NPG name either so I could care less what he calls his club. I just want first crack at good concert tickets and music that won't see the light of day via a record store.


The rest ya' complainers and those posting what you think is prophetic poetic prose who only come out of the woodwork when something happens (good or bad) please go back to posting or trolling where ever you were prior to the 4th of July weekend. And shut the p.org gate behind you.


Thanks, oh and

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Reply #212 posted 07/10/06 2:45pm

wonder505

Snap said:

tymechaser said:

one man has toured giving us the gift of song and dance for over 28 years this man has lost a wife a baby both of his parents and still tours making and giving us a happy day with his music. I hope u realize how great and how much a gift to us he really is . never miss a good thing till its gone. and these people attacking him need to get a life. leave him alone . what more can he give us. he deserves every penny he has ever made.tell these npg wanna b's to back up get a drink sit down and come up with your own name.the man works hard as hell and makes its look easy but any educated person knows it takes hard work and practice to make it look easy.


You use the words "gift" and "giving" as if Prince does all of this for us. I'm very thankful that we're able to reap from what he sows, but I hardly consider Prince much of a giving person. He drains one source dry and he runs to the next without a thank you or goodbye. I don't see much giving in that. Hello.


The gift is music, for which he has given for over 20 years. Which is why we are here right? At least that's what I thought. If you feel he hasn't given anything, "drains" and is not thankful to his fans, then why stick around? Unless I'm misinterpreting your message and you're talking something else.
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Reply #213 posted 07/10/06 3:54pm

Trickology

Yea, lets all file a class lawsuit. Let's file a class lawsuit who a anal retentive guy for years has been handing out cease and desist letters to fans pathetically trying to bully any person who had his pseudo new age symbol. Even going as far to stop people on geocities free sites. Wait let me ask my legal counsel what they think of this idea. Let's help a guy who has stiffed businesses from here to timbuktu on not receiving payment and just being a 100 percento el flako. Sounds like a good idea to me....BUT before we engage in this expedition. Let me ask my trusted Legal Consultation.

What say you, Legal Counsel?










The legal counsel has spoken. They don't seem enthused. Either that or they are heavily sedated on Ludes and Sizzurp. Now if you excuse me I have to cackle really loud like the sound of thunder at this turn of events.
Reply #214 posted 07/10/06 4:26pm

Snap

wonder505 said:

Snap said:



You use the words "gift" and "giving" as if Prince does all of this for us. I'm very thankful that we're able to reap from what he sows, but I hardly consider Prince much of a giving person. He drains one source dry and he runs to the next without a thank you or goodbye. I don't see much giving in that. Hello.


The gift is music, for which he has given for over 20 years. Which is why we are here right? At least that's what I thought. If you feel he hasn't given anything, "drains" and is not thankful to his fans, then why stick around? Unless I'm misinterpreting your message and you're talking something else.
[Edited 7/10/06 15:48pm]


Nevertheless, I like his music. A lot of our idols are jerks, but it doesn't stop us from liking what they DO -- we don't have to like who they ARE. Maybe in time upon a soon I will like him again? Other than that, it's his skills in the art of his musicianship that keeps me interested in the guy. Peace.
Reply #215 posted 07/10/06 4:35pm

sacredwarrior

Thought y;all might like to hear this lil true story...



A 'friend' of mine was recently put in a maximum security remand prison for driving without a license - which he had done repeatedly.


The 'system' finally got fed up with him and threw him in the slammer for 10 weeks with murderers and rapists.


He spent the first two weeks of his sentence in a holding cell at the police station. He slept on the floor, received no fresh air or excercise, ate microwaved TV dinner-type food, was not allowed any visitors and wasnt allowed to make any phonecalls.. for two weeks.


I put a call through to the police station - told em I was in politics - and suggested they get my 'friend' out of the holding cell because his rights were being violated and I'm sure they wouldnt want any media heat over it.


The next morning he was sent to maximum security remand.


Now before he even had his court hearing - which he thought would turn out with him getting 'community service' or something mild like that - he told me..


" Well they're either gonna give me community service or throw me in the slammer for at least 8 weeks. I don't think they'll be that harsh.


I'm not a bad person. I've committed no horrible crime. I'm just stupid. "


I laughed and said..


" Darling Heart - you are far from stupid. In fact - you are a highly intelligent man. I've seen it with my own eyes.


What you are - is deliberately defiant. You think you can break the rules and get away with it
"


He had nothing to say to that and just smiled.


I said " You know, when the Law comes a callin and says ' yo u need to wake the fuck up or their will be serious consequences'....THEY'RE NOT JOKING. "


Anyway, he was sentenced to 10 weeks hard time - for what he didnt think was a horrible crime.


Not so. I witnessed the horrible crime with my own eyes.


His children watched while their father went to prison.


His wife fell apart.


So did I.


His business shut down.



I had told him that I wouldnt dessert him - but upon second thought - I quit working with him.


His deliberate defiance - born of arrogance and egomania - led to events that ripped my heart out - ripped his family's heart out - and ripped out the heart of his business.


I now consider him a dangerous man.



A highly intelligent deliberately defiant arrogant egomaniac.


He had betrayed my trust. He had betrayed my friendship.


And this betrayal took place the second he got behind the wheel of his car without considering how his actions would affect others.


That is the crime. To presume to be so isolated from everyone else, to be superior to the law, to disregard his children and his wife, and selfishly get behind the wheel of his car just to go the fucking post office.


At first I felt sorry for him and thought about all the horrible ways he had been treated as a child and I blamed his parents for his adult behaviour.


Silly. As an adult who has had every opportunity to smell the really fucking strong coffee - he always CHOSE not to.


My last words to him were ..


"Only way I could ever work with you again is if you upgrade the quality of your soul"




Arrogance is probabaly one of the biggest crimes on this planet.

It is the cause of all wars, poverty, disease, famine, social injustice, sexism, every crime you think of - is in some way born from Arrogance in the Human Soul.

So to those of you who feel hurt by what has happened here - you have every right to.

It's time for arrogant little fuckers to face the Music and learn their lesson
.



heart



btw. my 'friend' was a very short really good guitarist.
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #216 posted 07/10/06 5:08pm

jill1999

umm someone help me out cause i sure don't understand all this, to compare shutting down a web site to committing a crime makes no sense to me.
i'm sorry am not trying to be rude, but i don't get the correlation? i think, like many have said, maybe just some business mistakes happened and after learning from those, things might come back bigger and better. who is to say he will loose the law suit anyway.

goodness,there just seems to be a lot of mental anguish over a web site.
(scratches head) maybe i just dunno what you are feeling? i have too many things in the world to worry/pray about than something as trivial as this. maybe that is my problem? humm... (sarcasm 101) wink

anyway,like i said before, i am already happy with 3121.com,as is, with it's drama-less little self. smile

take care everyone!
Jill(must go back to lurk status soon!)
[Edited 7/11/06 1:09am]
"U know, this is funky but I just wish he'd play like he used 2, old scragglyhead."-Prince
Reply #217 posted 07/10/06 5:18pm

jill1999

P.S. I don't really need anyone to explain. smile

take care all,
Jill

oh, www.one.org
"U know, this is funky but I just wish he'd play like he used 2, old scragglyhead."-Prince
Reply #218 posted 07/10/06 5:44pm

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

I am so confused lol Are you saying that Prince has never been allowed to use the term NPG? It took this long for it to come out!? lol
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
Reply #219 posted 07/10/06 5:50pm

sacredwarrior

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I am so confused lol Are you saying that Prince has never been allowed to use the term NPG? It took this long for it to come out!? lol



driving without a license

the permit = humility

money dont matter tonite lol
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #220 posted 07/10/06 6:53pm

jone70

sacredwarrior said:

blahblah some crazy parable was here



Please, just back slowly away from the keyboard before we all hurt ourselves from the pain of trying to dechiper what the fuck you're talking about... err

evillol
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
Reply #221 posted 07/10/06 6:54pm

jone70

Ifsixwuz9 said:

hmm I just skimmed through this thread and Synergy your hearts in the right place but I wouldn't spend too much free time trying to solve this problem for P. Thanks for posting the info though.

Ian- good point. I'm not attached to NPG name either so I could care less what he calls his club. I just want first crack at good concert tickets and music that won't see the light of day via a record store.


The rest ya' complainers and those posting what you think is prophetic poetic prose who only come out of the woodwork when something happens (good or bad) please go back to posting or trolling where ever you were prior to the 4th of July weekend. And shut the p.org gate behind you.


Thanks, oh and

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neutral





Word. cool
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
Reply #222 posted 07/10/06 7:14pm

wonder505

jone70 said:

sacredwarrior said:

blahblah some crazy parable was here



Please, just back slowly away from the keyboard before we all hurt ourselves from the pain of trying to dechiper what the fuck you're talking about... err

evillol



lol
Reply #223 posted 07/10/06 8:47pm

BSK3601

Ifsixwuz9 said:

hmm I just skimmed through this thread and Synergy your hearts in the right place but I wouldn't spend too much free time trying to solve this problem for P. Thanks for posting the info though.

Ian- good point. I'm not attached to NPG name either so I could care less what he calls his club. I just want first crack at good concert tickets and music that won't see the light of day via a record store.


The rest ya' complainers and those posting what you think is prophetic poetic prose who only come out of the woodwork when something happens (good or bad) please go back to posting or trolling where ever you were prior to the 4th of July weekend. And shut the p.org gate behind you.


Thanks, oh and

'Fronters unite!' Banner

© Sevennynine Studios




neutral


.
[Edited 7/10/06 14:18pm]



BAM!!!!! There it is.... worship
Reply #224 posted 07/10/06 8:57pm

Terilicious

Ifsixwuz9 said:

hmm I just skimmed through this thread and Synergy your hearts in the right place but I wouldn't spend too much free time trying to solve this problem for P. Thanks for posting the info though.

Ian- good point. I'm not attached to NPG name either so I could care less what he calls his club. I just want first crack at good concert tickets and music that won't see the light of day via a record store.


The rest ya' complainers and those posting what you think is prophetic poetic prose who only come out of the woodwork when something happens (good or bad) please go back to posting or trolling where ever you were prior to the 4th of July weekend. And shut the p.org gate behind you.

Thanks, oh and

'Fronters unite!' Banner

© Sevennynine Studios




neutral


.
[Edited 7/10/06 14:18pm]



hah! cooked
I AM BEATLOAF
www.myspace.com/teriteriboberi
www.stickam.com/profile/Beatloaf
www.myspace.com/americasfunnyman
www.stephenking.com
www.tomgreen.com

I'm my own favorite orger and that trumps any elitist list you guys can come up with.
Reply #225 posted 07/11/06 1:07am

Watchman

this world attacks what it does not understand
still doesn't make it right
Reply #226 posted 07/11/06 1:13am

Terilicious

Watchman said:

this world attacks what it does not understand
still doesn't make it right



?

I understand the words.

I'm asking what is this regarding.
[Edited 7/11/06 1:14am]
I AM BEATLOAF
www.myspace.com/teriteriboberi
www.stickam.com/profile/Beatloaf
www.myspace.com/americasfunnyman
www.stephenking.com
www.tomgreen.com

I'm my own favorite orger and that trumps any elitist list you guys can come up with.
Reply #227 posted 07/11/06 1:34am

Terilicious

What?

I don't get a super fantastic cryptic reply?

Nobody likes me... sad cry
I AM BEATLOAF
www.myspace.com/teriteriboberi
www.stickam.com/profile/Beatloaf
www.myspace.com/americasfunnyman
www.stephenking.com
www.tomgreen.com

I'm my own favorite orger and that trumps any elitist list you guys can come up with.
Reply #228 posted 07/11/06 3:27am

sacredwarrior

Watchman said:

this world attacks what it does not understand
still doesn't make it right




ya got that right





heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #229 posted 07/11/06 4:55am

beatz01

sacredwarrior -> I think you got issues.Bigtime.

To cancel a friendship because of driving without license and to call a person doing that "a dangerous man" is pretty ****ed up in my point of view.

With friends like that, who needs enemies...

Geez.
Reply #230 posted 07/11/06 6:37am

Shorty

beatz01 said:

sacredwarrior -> I think you got issues.Bigtime.

To cancel a friendship because of driving without license and to call a person doing that "a dangerous man" is pretty ****ed up in my point of view.

With friends like that, who needs enemies...

Geez.



yeah...great friend...."I had told him that I wouldnt dessert him - but upon second thought - I quit working with him"

so..basically you lied to his face and turned your back on him...NICE!
you are so full of your own arrogance it's completely ABSURD, that you sit here talking shit about someone else's arrogance.
and then to say "btw. my 'friend' was a very short really good guitarist."
as if to say your "friend" is Prince...Pahlease! well, you did say "was" so..maybe you're trying to say your friend is dead...I dunno. shrug
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
Reply #231 posted 07/11/06 7:52am

Shavanti

When I read what Sacredwarrior wrote, I go this out of it...and I GET it, as I CAN relate to it! Thanx for posting.
*****

" Darling Heart - you are far from stupid. In fact - you are a highly intelligent man. I've seen it with my own eyes.

What you are - is deliberately defiant. You think you can break the rules and get away with it "

I said " You know, when the Law comes a callin and says ' yo u need to wake the fuck up or their will be serious consequences'....THEY'RE NOT JOKING. "

His business shut down.

I quit working with him.

His deliberate defiance - born of arrogance and egomania - led to events that ripped my heart out - ripped his family's heart out - and ripped out the heart of his business.

A highly intelligent deliberately defiant arrogant egomaniac.

And this betrayal without considering how his actions would affect others.
Reply #232 posted 07/11/06 8:18am

wonder505

Shavanti said:

When I read what Sacredwarrior wrote, I go this out of it...and I GET it, as I CAN relate to it! Thanx for posting.
*****

" Darling Heart - you are far from stupid. In fact - you are a highly intelligent man. I've seen it with my own eyes.

What you are - is deliberately defiant. You think you can break the rules and get away with it "

I said " You know, when the Law comes a callin and says ' yo u need to wake the fuck up or their will be serious consequences'....THEY'RE NOT JOKING. "

His business shut down.

I quit working with him.


His deliberate defiance - born of arrogance and egomania - led to events that ripped my heart out - ripped his family's heart out - and ripped out the heart of his business.

A highly intelligent deliberately defiant arrogant egomaniac.

And this betrayal without considering how his actions would affect others.


I'm sorry your post is very confusing. Are you talking about Prince, sacredwarrior or yourself. Who quit working for Prince you or sacredwarrior? And who's business shutdown? Did Prince's business shutdown? When was this? I thought it was just the forums, for the store is still up and running?
[Edited 7/11/06 8:20am]
Reply #233 posted 07/11/06 9:02am

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

Terilicious said:

What?

I don't get a super fantastic cryptic reply?

Nobody likes me... sad cry


Awwwww comfort lol

You know, at first I was kinda put off by the whole Karma angle in this thread and then I got to thinkin this is exactly what Prince deserves for being such a jackass in the 90s and suing his fans who's only crime was being devoted fans. So many of the fans he went after only had lyrics on their site and pictures in honor of their favorite musician and he acted like a total nutball and a giant jerk. Yup, what comes around goes around evillol
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
Reply #234 posted 07/11/06 10:35am

prndc33

Synergy said:

lol! I wasn't bad mouthing, I was baiting - begging U 2 bite and come help us... I am discussing my idea now and when I get it sound I will fill y'all in.

BTW, any lawyers in the house? Contact me, please?

Thank YOU!
Baiting----Assuming U R above the ppl. enough here to b able to Bait some one .....YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!!
Reply #235 posted 07/11/06 10:46am

prndc33

Shavanti said:

U want the TRUTH...Here is the TRUTH! U can choose 2 believe it or not!


This is what the e-mail from NPG says....


Tough Shit that I pulled the plug on the Club!

Tough Shit that I didn't give u all any notice!

Tough Shit that U didn't get the e-mail from US as there NO LONGER is an US!

Tough Shit that U didn't get ur downloads...U should have already bought them!

Tough Shit that U NOW want Merchandise!....U should have already bought it!

Tough Shit that U will not know if I'm going 2 go on tour and if I do U will have 2 pay (a higher price) Damn, I never told the Club what I was doing anyways. It always seemed 2 get leaked out on the "un-authorized" sites anyways, so why do I need 2 have a Club?

Are U REALLY gunna believe that this is a "hiatus"...PLEAZEEEEE read between the lines!


It's all there U just have 2 want 2 see the TRUTH!

And DON'T blame this on the folx @ NPG as they have a boss that decides ALL of these things and only HE makes the decisions and his name is PRINCE. So if u want 2 blame...blame him! And if U think he really gives a rat's ass about what U think ur livin in a dream world...just like him!


Thank You I tried to hint at that on the site, and here !
He doesn't give a high flying Fuck about anyone BUT PRINCE.
He sold you all a bag of shit and U bought it, along with all the merchandise that went with it.
The little 5ft dick left you all hangin'and u still WORSHIP HIM?
From Day 1 to the last day the jerkoff never made any statement to thank all the "FAMS" that got Him where He was .....4 that he should rot....
Then drag your sheep asses into the JW SECT_CULT????? U deserve what you got....a fist up your HINEY HOLE >>>sorry 'SAD BUT TRUE".....'" God loves the Truth"
Reply #236 posted 07/11/06 10:47am

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

prndc33 said:

Shavanti said:

U want the TRUTH...Here is the TRUTH! U can choose 2 believe it or not!


This is what the e-mail from NPG says....


Tough Shit that I pulled the plug on the Club!

Tough Shit that I didn't give u all any notice!

Tough Shit that U didn't get the e-mail from US as there NO LONGER is an US!

Tough Shit that U didn't get ur downloads...U should have already bought them!

Tough Shit that U NOW want Merchandise!....U should have already bought it!

Tough Shit that U will not know if I'm going 2 go on tour and if I do U will have 2 pay (a higher price) Damn, I never told the Club what I was doing anyways. It always seemed 2 get leaked out on the "un-authorized" sites anyways, so why do I need 2 have a Club?

Are U REALLY gunna believe that this is a "hiatus"...PLEAZEEEEE read between the lines!


It's all there U just have 2 want 2 see the TRUTH!

And DON'T blame this on the folx @ NPG as they have a boss that decides ALL of these things and only HE makes the decisions and his name is PRINCE. So if u want 2 blame...blame him! And if U think he really gives a rat's ass about what U think ur livin in a dream world...just like him!


Thank You I tried to hint at that on the site, and here !
He doesn't give a high flying Fuck about anyone BUT PRINCE.
He sold you all a bag of shit and U bought it, along with all the merchandise that went with it.
The little 5ft dick left you all hangin'and u still WORSHIP HIM?
From Day 1 to the last day the jerkoff never made any statement to thank all the "FAMS" that got Him where He was .....4 that he should rot....
Then drag your sheep asses into the JW SECT_CULT????? U deserve what you got....a fist up your HINEY HOLE >>>sorry 'SAD BUT TRUE".....'" God loves the Truth"


Why on earth are you even on a Prince website falloff Bitter, table for one lol
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
Reply #237 posted 07/11/06 10:52am

prndc33

jaypotton said:

Man it's so obvious what Prince should do (isn't it?).

a) Use this as an opportunity to "retire" the tired NPG moniker (it became tired around the mid 90s)*

b) The music club was 95% about Prince's music (with some "friends") so what is so wrong with having the "PrinceMusicClub"?

c) Use this as an opportunity to finally give Prince (and us) the online presence he really deserves...open The Vault!

* I am sure there is $$$ worth of unsold merchandise with the NPGMC logos on it so this might be something he has to swallow destroying?


I have a bulding for sale!!!!
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Send the check to 3121NME ave. MPLS,MINN,310212-21
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Reply #238 posted 07/11/06 10:58am

wonder505

prndc33 said:

Shavanti said:

U want the TRUTH...Here is the TRUTH! U can choose 2 believe it or not!


This is what the e-mail from NPG says....


Tough Shit that I pulled the plug on the Club!

Tough Shit that I didn't give u all any notice!

Tough Shit that U didn't get the e-mail from US as there NO LONGER is an US!

Tough Shit that U didn't get ur downloads...U should have already bought them!

Tough Shit that U NOW want Merchandise!....U should have already bought it!

Tough Shit that U will not know if I'm going 2 go on tour and if I do U will have 2 pay (a higher price) Damn, I never told the Club what I was doing anyways. It always seemed 2 get leaked out on the "un-authorized" sites anyways, so why do I need 2 have a Club?

Are U REALLY gunna believe that this is a "hiatus"...PLEAZEEEEE read between the lines!


It's all there U just have 2 want 2 see the TRUTH!

And DON'T blame this on the folx @ NPG as they have a boss that decides ALL of these things and only HE makes the decisions and his name is PRINCE. So if u want 2 blame...blame him! And if U think he really gives a rat's ass about what U think ur livin in a dream world...just like him!


Thank You I tried to hint at that on the site, and here !
He doesn't give a high flying Fuck about anyone BUT PRINCE.
He sold you all a bag of shit and U bought it, along with all the merchandise that went with it.
The little 5ft dick left you all hangin'and u still WORSHIP HIM?
From Day 1 to the last day the jerkoff never made any statement to thank all the "FAMS" that got Him where He was .....4 that he should rot....
Then drag your sheep asses into the JW SECT_CULT????? U deserve what you got....a fist up your HINEY HOLE >>>sorry 'SAD BUT TRUE".....'" God loves the Truth"


I think its sad that you mention God's name when you yourself are full of so much hate. You are no better than the fanatics over at NPGMC, but you're worse, because in your own sick form of hyprocrisy, you're trying to throw stones and point the finger at Prince when YOU are the one looking, thinking and acting like a complete JACKASS. Hate, anger and bitterness is a powerful destructive thing and I think you need to check yourself before you go off in this continuous rage of hate.

Be an adult dammit! If you hate Prince so much THEN LOG THE FUCK OFF and DON'T COME BACK!! Why do you come here time and again associate yourself with something that makes you so upset.

GROW UP and MOVE ON.
Reply #239 posted 07/11/06 11:16am

PurpleCharm

falloff

Damn...P has some bitter ass fans. disbelief
Reply #240 posted 07/11/06 11:18am

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

PurpleCharm said:

falloff

Damn...P has some bitter ass fans. disbelief


Some of it warranted but if you are that upset, just pack ya bags lol
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
Reply #241 posted 07/11/06 11:55am

PurpleCharm

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

PurpleCharm said:

falloff

Damn...P has some bitter ass fans. disbelief


Some of it warranted but if you are that upset, just pack ya bags lol

Oh, I definitely agree.

They have a love/hate relationship with the man.
Reply #242 posted 07/11/06 12:09pm

VenusDeMilo9999

I really dont understand why he didnt call his club something we all would rekconize, like 0)->.com Something he knows dam well he payed tha dues 4 and fought 4 tha rights 2 claim . Now He knows all about tha US patient office, how could he not have known that he didnt have tha rights 2 build a fucking Empire off of NPG, I just dont get it.Pleze Prince get us off of this shit.
[Edited 7/11/06 12:10pm]
may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go...
Reply #243 posted 07/11/06 12:55pm

Shorty

prndc33 said:

Shavanti said:

U want the TRUTH...Here is the TRUTH! U can choose 2 believe it or not!


This is what the e-mail from NPG says....


Tough Shit that I pulled the plug on the Club!

Tough Shit that I didn't give u all any notice!

Tough Shit that U didn't get the e-mail from US as there NO LONGER is an US!

Tough Shit that U didn't get ur downloads...U should have already bought them!

Tough Shit that U NOW want Merchandise!....U should have already bought it!

Tough Shit that U will not know if I'm going 2 go on tour and if I do U will have 2 pay (a higher price) Damn, I never told the Club what I was doing anyways. It always seemed 2 get leaked out on the "un-authorized" sites anyways, so why do I need 2 have a Club?

Are U REALLY gunna believe that this is a "hiatus"...PLEAZEEEEE read between the lines!


It's all there U just have 2 want 2 see the TRUTH!

And DON'T blame this on the folx @ NPG as they have a boss that decides ALL of these things and only HE makes the decisions and his name is PRINCE. So if u want 2 blame...blame him! And if U think he really gives a rat's ass about what U think ur livin in a dream world...just like him!


Thank You I tried to hint at that on the site, and here !
He doesn't give a high flying Fuck about anyone BUT PRINCE.
He sold you all a bag of shit and U bought it, along with all the merchandise that went with it.
The little 5ft dick left you all hangin'and u still WORSHIP HIM?
From Day 1 to the last day the jerkoff never made any statement to thank all the "FAMS" that got Him where He was .....4 that he should rot....
Then drag your sheep asses into the JW SECT_CULT????? U deserve what you got....a fist up your HINEY HOLE >>>sorry 'SAD BUT TRUE".....'" God loves the Truth"



wow...you're really hurt by this huh? It'll be ok...time heals all wounds falloff
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
Reply #244 posted 07/11/06 1:26pm

rhomea

First of all - despite all the paperwork and yada yada yada posted here and elsewhere...
There is no lawsuit filed in a municipal, state or federal court of law, just an objection to giving Paisley Park a TM/SM for NPG filed with the USPTO Appeals Board.
At this point in the process, the Opposition filing has no direct causal effect to force Prince into shutting down the Club whatsoever.
All this wasted space is just an attempt to shift the blame from Prince and his business management to some third party all the koolaid drinkers can then hate on.
There are NO grounds whatsoever for seeking damages from the Opposing party either as the decision and method in which the shutdown was effected is all on Paisley Park.
I do not know why Prince shut it down and any opinion I have would be pure speculation.
But I do know that he was not forced to do it by this puny ass filing at the US Patent & Trademark Office. If every business that received a challenge on a TM filing immediately closed up shop, there would be 750 fewer companies in the Fortune 1000 right now.

that is the truth.
Frank Zappa was the greatest American composer of the last 50 years, the greatest electric guitarist to have ever played that instrument, and his music will be performed live long after Purple Rain will have been forgotten.
Reply #245 posted 07/11/06 1:26pm

RockNRoll

prndc33 said:






He sold you all a bag of shit and U bought it, along with all the merchandise that went with it.




lol .. thats funny!





I've never even seen any merchandise from that club. Is it any good? The only "merchandise" I have ever ever seen was a diamond/gold NPG pendant, oh worth about $10,000/$15,000. But thats all lol

Oh, and a coffee mug.
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #246 posted 07/11/06 1:28pm

RockNRoll

rhomea said:

If every business that received a challenge on a TM filing immediately closed up shop, there would be 750 fewer companies in the Fortune 1000 right now.

that is the truth.




Good point!
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #247 posted 07/11/06 1:30pm

rhomea

Second - to all the folks who think that all the members of the NPGMC are stooges, sheep or whatever derogatory term you wish to use --- try using your head for more than a efin hat rack eh??

Did I like them all? HELL FUCKALL NO
were there some good things? yes lots
Bad things?? shit yeah

But it doesn't take Einstein to figure out that the vast majority of members there joined FOR THE TICKETS!!!
so let's do some math:
I went to 5 shows and saved ticketMASSA charges on all via the Club
That is 5 x 2 x $10 convenience fee per tic = $100 saved
$100 - $25 fee = a 300% net return on my initial investment.

AND OH YEAH I FORGOT --- I SAT IN THE 5th TO THE 10th ROW EVERY SHOW. clapping clapping clapping

so ya all can chew on that tidbit
while I sit here feelin all warm and fuzzy at having kept TM's grubby hands out my pocket
and sittin in the first ten rows without payin a scumbag errrmmm... I mean scalper for the privilege lol
Frank Zappa was the greatest American composer of the last 50 years, the greatest electric guitarist to have ever played that instrument, and his music will be performed live long after Purple Rain will have been forgotten.
Reply #248 posted 07/11/06 1:34pm

rhomea

RockNRoll said:

Good point!
<=====look left
that would be my head when I am swimmin...
Frank Zappa was the greatest American composer of the last 50 years, the greatest electric guitarist to have ever played that instrument, and his music will be performed live long after Purple Rain will have been forgotten.
Reply #249 posted 07/11/06 1:36pm

RockNRoll

rhomea said:


AND OH YEAH I FORGOT --- I SAT IN THE 5th TO THE 10th ROW EVERY SHOW. clapping clapping clapping

so ya all can chew on that tidbit
while I sit here feelin all warm and fuzzy at having kept TM's grubby hands out my pocket
and sittin in the first ten rows without payin a scumbag errrmmm... I mean scalper for the privilege
lol





clapping .. and that itself was worth every penny, dime, nickel, quarter, dollar wink




cool
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #250 posted 07/11/06 1:39pm

txladykat

rhomea said:

Second - to all the folks who think that all the members of the NPGMC are stooges, sheep or whatever derogatory term you wish to use --- try using your head for more than a efin hat rack eh??

Did I like them all? HELL FUCKALL NO
were there some good things? yes lots
Bad things?? shit yeah

But it doesn't take Einstein to figure out that the vast majority of members there joined FOR THE TICKETS!!!
so let's do some math:
I went to 5 shows and saved ticketMASSA charges on all via the Club
That is 5 x 2 x $10 convenience fee per tic = $100 saved
$100 - $25 fee = a 300% net return on my initial investment.

AND OH YEAH I FORGOT --- I SAT IN THE 5th TO THE 10th ROW EVERY SHOW. clapping clapping clapping

so ya all can chew on that tidbit
while I sit here feelin all warm and fuzzy at having kept TM's grubby hands out my pocket
and sittin in the first ten rows without payin a scumbag errrmmm... I mean scalper for the privilege lol


I was front row with all my npgmc tix cool cool
oh, and also saved paying TM TAXES!! Sooooo add 8.75% of each ticket to your total saved wink
Reply #251 posted 07/11/06 1:41pm

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

rhomea said:

Second - to all the folks who think that all the members of the NPGMC are stooges, sheep or whatever derogatory term you wish to use --- try using your head for more than a efin hat rack eh??

Did I like them all? HELL FUCKALL NO
were there some good things? yes lots
Bad things?? shit yeah

But it doesn't take Einstein to figure out that the vast majority of members there joined FOR THE TICKETS!!!
so let's do some math:
I went to 5 shows and saved ticketMASSA charges on all via the Club
That is 5 x 2 x $10 convenience fee per tic = $100 saved
$100 - $25 fee = a 300% net return on my initial investment.

AND OH YEAH I FORGOT --- I SAT IN THE 5th TO THE 10th ROW EVERY SHOW. clapping clapping clapping

so ya all can chew on that tidbit
while I sit here feelin all warm and fuzzy at having kept TM's grubby hands out my pocket
and sittin in the first ten rows without payin a scumbag errrmmm... I mean scalper for the privilege lol



Joining the club was the best money I ever spent clapping The music is debatable as I can see what people didn't like about but I enjoyed much of it. Front row concerts, not once but twice. Free and first entry to the LA aftershow, plus a guest. Going to the musicology press conference at a small LA theater where he performed for over an hour and the DVD screening where Prince played at BeBe Kings, and free no less.

It think I paid $125 total for the club. Money well spent!! biggrin
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
Reply #252 posted 07/11/06 4:19pm

jseven

This article quotes an attorney for Paisley Park Enterprises that, "to the best of his knowledge, the web site closing and the trademark, were not related"

http://www.thebumpsquad.com

http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/11/prince-abruptly-closes-official-web-site/

Prince Abruptly Closes Official Web Site
Posted Jul 11th 2006 5:34PM by TMZ Staff


Prince's official Web site, NPGMusicClub.com, closed suddenly last week with no advanced notice. The club simply sent around an email that said, in part, they decided to "put the club on hiatus until further notice."

The announcement went on to say, "In its current [form] there is a feeling that the NPGMC gone as far as it can go." It ended, "The future holds nothing but endless opportunity and we plan on seizing it wholeheartedly. Don't u want 2 come?"

In a possibly related story, Prince filed for a trademark on the mark "NPG Music Club" last year. An opposition was filed against that claim by HM Publishers Holding Limited, which owns the Nature Publishing Group, or NPG. The opposition was filed on the same day that NPGMusicClub.com was put on "hiatus."
An attorney for Prince's company, Paisley Park Enterprises, told TMZ that the two incidents were not related, to the best of his knowledge, and that the "opposition will be resolved shortly."

Prince has been one of the pioneers of music on the Internet. He was the first major artist to release an entire album -- 1997's "Crystal Ball" -- exclusively on the Web. The NPG Music Club had boasted several full-length CDs of music that were unavailable anywhere else.

He was honored last month with a Webby Lifetime Achievement Award. "Besides being a musical genius, Prince is a visionary who recognized early on that the web would completely change how we experience music," said Tiffany Shlain, founder of The Webby Awards. "For more than a decade, he has tapped the power of the Web to forge a deeper connection with his fans and push the boundaries of technology and art."

http://www.thebumpsquad.com
Silence Speaks A Thousand Words.
Reply #253 posted 07/11/06 4:40pm

sapphiregirl

Umm i've only began listening to Prince's music about a year or two ago(before then my dad over played his music when i was a kid and i hated it with passion), so maybe that is why i have my response. It seems like everyone else has been a fan much longer than i have. (I have a feeling someone may comment on this...) Anyway, now to the point:

I can empathize with many fans here who feel betrayed, but at the same time, if i were to accomplish my dream(s) and eventually run into trouble that i didn't want anyone to know about (before they need to know) and i read most of what was posted, i would feel betrayed also.

I think most celebrities are just like normal people, only significantly talented. They are suceptable to the same temptations as you and I, they are capable of reform as you and I, and they make mistakes like you and I.

Many view Prince as a family member. Well, would you purposely verbally hurt a family member (Not counting if it were a sibling relationship)?

It is like " Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" (I know it's coming...)

Anyway, if some must act, why not prepare to back him up if asks?

rose Sapphiregirl rose .
Let's have a little fun....
If you win, I'll give you 50$
If I win, you have to get a lobotomy.

A win win situation your you.
Reply #254 posted 07/11/06 5:29pm

sacredwarrior

jseven said:

The opposition was filed on the same day that NPGMusicClub.com was put on "hiatus."

An attorney for Prince's company, Paisley Park Enterprises, told TMZ that the two incidents were not related, to the best of his knowledge, and that the "opposition will be resolved shortly."




if he continues to use the term

New. Power. Generation.

while refusing to embrace new ways of doing things

like free downloads

and basically just get generally EDUCATED on what the 'new world' is really all about

the opposition will continue

in many ways


heart




like i said at the beginning of this thread


never fuck with a smart woman





prince
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #255 posted 07/11/06 5:49pm

PurpleCharm

Thanks jseven. I didn't think the two were related.
Reply #256 posted 07/11/06 6:15pm

BSK3601

sacredwarrior said:


like i said at the beginning of this thread...


Baby, do you think anybody is really listening to you lol
Reply #257 posted 07/11/06 6:18pm

thedoorkeeper

Heres my theory: The club died for 2 reasons:

1- The downloads were played out. The downloading had its day & unless a bunch of new recordings were offered the sales weren't going to pick up. It would be cost effective to end it. Also in 6 months bring out the downloads on cd & sell them to your fans all over again.
End the NPGMC & resell the downloads as cds.

2- Prince has visions of a single club performance site instead of touring & the tickets for NPGMC members in a club situation could become a nightmare. If you don't have the NPGMC you don't have that problem.
End the NPGMC & end NPGMC members ticket headaches.
Reply #258 posted 07/11/06 7:13pm

Aerogram

Some people on this thread should be spanked or given some top notch anti-psychotic.

While this legal wrangling is unfortunate, it is at worst a temporary setback. Prince will want your money again, so don't worry. NPG or not, a new site will open and you'll once again be able to open your wallet if not your heart.

How long can a generation stay "new" anyway? Good riddance.
Take it as a Sign O' Its Time 4 a Change.

I for one think I can do without the club for a few months at the very least.
Reply #259 posted 07/11/06 9:35pm

RockNRoll

BSK3601 said:

sacredwarrior said:


like i said at the beginning of this thread...



Baby, do you think anybody is really listening to you lol




You do! lol
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #260 posted 07/11/06 10:06pm

Synergy

prndc33 said:

Synergy said:

lol! I wasn't bad mouthing, I was baiting - begging U 2 bite and come help us... I am discussing my idea now and when I get it sound I will fill y'all in.

BTW, any lawyers in the house? Contact me, please?

Thank YOU!
Baiting----Assuming U R above the ppl. enough here to b able to Bait some one .....YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!!

Oh please... who is the joke, one that admits they want help with a project in complete tongue and cheek or someone who critisizes one they do not know as U have done me? PLEASE!
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #261 posted 07/11/06 10:34pm

BSK3601

RockNRoll said:

BSK3601 said:




Baby, do you think anybody is really listening to you lol




You do! lol


no no no! What did I tell you about staying outta grown folk conversation? Huh?
[Edited 7/11/06 22:35pm]
Reply #262 posted 07/11/06 10:39pm

RockNRoll

BSK3601 said:

RockNRoll said:





You do! lol


no no no! What did I tell you about staying outta grown folk conversation? Huh?
[Edited 7/11/06 22:35pm]



Ah, now, isn't that much better cool

You took that without insult.....no name calling clapping .. you go on witcha bad self lol
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #263 posted 07/11/06 10:41pm

BSK3601

RockNRoll said:

BSK3601 said:



no no no! What did I tell you about staying outta grown folk conversation? Huh?
[Edited 7/11/06 22:35pm]



Ah, now, isn't that much better cool

You took that without insult.....no name calling clapping .. you go on witcha bad self lol


Thanks, trick!!!!!
Reply #264 posted 07/11/06 10:44pm

RockNRoll

BSK3601 said:

RockNRoll said:




Ah, now, isn't that much better cool

You took that without insult.....no name calling clapping .. you go on witcha bad self lol


Thanks, trick!!!!!



WhatEver THAT means? lol .. but hey, I know you HAVE to have the last say, the last word. It makes you feel as if you WON. And that to you is important. Just as important as it is to call somebody a name. Einstein smile


Now, go on,, say yo thang wink
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #265 posted 07/11/06 10:46pm

BSK3601

RockNRoll said:

BSK3601 said:



Thanks, trick!!!!!



WhatEver THAT means? lol .. but hey, I know you HAVE to have the last say, the last word. It makes you feel as if you WON. And that to you is important. Just as important as it is to call somebody a name. Einstein smile


Now, go on,, say yo thang wink


.
Reply #266 posted 07/12/06 1:03am

rhomea

jseven said:

This article quotes an attorney for Paisley Park Enterprises that, "to the best of his knowledge, the web site closing and the trademark, were not related"

http://www.thebumpsquad.com

http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/11/prince-abruptly-closes-official-web-site/


thanks j7 - maybe now all this purple koolaid inspired lunacy will be laid to rest.

_____
WELCOME 2 THE DAWN
That will be $312.01 please - cash or charge?
Frank Zappa was the greatest American composer of the last 50 years, the greatest electric guitarist to have ever played that instrument, and his music will be performed live long after Purple Rain will have been forgotten.
Reply #267 posted 07/12/06 2:38am

rhomea

BSK3601 said:

RockNRoll said:




WhatEver THAT means? lol .. but hey, I know you HAVE to have the last say, the last word. It makes you feel as if you WON. And that to you is important. Just as important as it is to call somebody a name. Einstein smile


Now, go on,, say yo thang wink


.

bitchfight
didn't you guyz get enuff of this in second grade?

"Now stop fighting and play nice.
don't make me put you two in the corner now"
lol
Frank Zappa was the greatest American composer of the last 50 years, the greatest electric guitarist to have ever played that instrument, and his music will be performed live long after Purple Rain will have been forgotten.
Reply #268 posted 07/12/06 3:43am

sacredwarrior

lol the quote at the top of the page is..

right now I'm making the Bela Lugosi face at you.


lol


pity makin faces dont save nobody's ass biggrin
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #269 posted 07/12/06 5:55am

RockNRoll

rhomea said:

BSK3601 said:



.

bitchfight
didn't you guyz get enuff of this in second grade?

"Now stop fighting and play nice.
don't make me put you two in the corner now"
lol



I didn't know how to fight in the second grade... Prince grade (students) taught me lol





That emoticon is something else lol
****Prince has banished them INTO the REAL world****.

.
Reply #270 posted 07/12/06 6:19am

SIRTONY

sacredwarrior said:

so who gets the webby award now ? lol

heart


is this another millie vanille thing ???... lol
it goes back to the award committe.. wink
SOME PEOPLE--THOSE WHO THINK IT'S EVER THEIR PLACE TO CHANGE SOMEONE--WILL FIND NEW "FAULTS" WHEN OLD ONES GET "FIXED".

milwaukee prince meetup.com milwaukee prince perplerain.com
Reply #271 posted 07/12/06 6:45am

wonder505

SIRTONY said:

sacredwarrior said:

so who gets the webby award now ? lol

heart


is this another millie vanille thing ???... lol
it goes back to the award committe.. wink



LOL. You may be right!
Reply #272 posted 07/12/06 7:13am

Graycap23

jseven said:

This article quotes an attorney for Paisley Park Enterprises that, "to the best of his knowledge, the web site closing and the trademark, were not related"

http://www.thebumpsquad.com

http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/11/prince-abruptly-closes-official-web-site/

Prince Abruptly Closes Official Web Site
Posted Jul 11th 2006 5:34PM by TMZ Staff


Prince's official Web site, NPGMusicClub.com, closed suddenly last week with no advanced notice. The club simply sent around an email that said, in part, they decided to "put the club on hiatus until further notice."

The announcement went on to say, "In its current [form] there is a feeling that the NPGMC gone as far as it can go." It ended, "The future holds nothing but endless opportunity and we plan on seizing it wholeheartedly. Don't u want 2 come?"

In a possibly related story, Prince filed for a trademark on the mark "NPG Music Club" last year. An opposition was filed against that claim by HM Publishers Holding Limited, which owns the Nature Publishing Group, or NPG. The opposition was filed on the same day that NPGMusicClub.com was put on "hiatus."
An attorney for Prince's company, Paisley Park Enterprises, told TMZ that the two incidents were not related, to the best of his knowledge, and that the "opposition will be resolved shortly."

Prince has been one of the pioneers of music on the Internet. He was the first major artist to release an entire album -- 1997's "Crystal Ball" -- exclusively on the Web. The NPG Music Club had boasted several full-length CDs of music that were unavailable anywhere else.

He was honored last month with a Webby Lifetime Achievement Award. "Besides being a musical genius, Prince is a visionary who recognized early on that the web would completely change how we experience music," said Tiffany Shlain, founder of The Webby Awards. "For more than a decade, he has tapped the power of the Web to forge a deeper connection with his fans and push the boundaries of technology and art."

http://www.thebumpsquad.com

I guess this BLOWS up yall dumbass theories.....
Reply #273 posted 07/12/06 7:31am

Stinky

Synergy said:



Yes, it more than likely is the reason, because according 2 the above letter sent 2 the lawyers representing Prince and PPE, the "NPG" more than likely cannot b used until the very least August 2, 2007 - when all testimony and Discovery must b submitted. I seriously doubt that it would b that soon as they would have 2 await a judgement from the governing committee.

I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

So, is this possible? Or am I just evil? lol lol lol

Oh and U're welcome on thanks 4 my research... Cool


hey synergy

i'm sure you're trying to help, but honestly, this class action thing would at best be a fruitless waste of money, and at worst would be vexatious litigation, and you don't want to hit with a big ass bill on your doorstep for that.
wink
But Marge! What if we chose the wrong religion? Each week we just make God madder and madder.
Reply #274 posted 07/12/06 7:49am

Terilicious

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Terilicious said:

What?

I don't get a super fantastic cryptic reply?

Nobody likes me... sad cry


Awwwww comfort lol

You know, at first I was kinda put off by the whole Karma angle in this thread and then I got to thinkin this is exactly what Prince deserves for being such a jackass in the 90s and suing his fans who's only crime was being devoted fans. So many of the fans he went after only had lyrics on their site and pictures in honor of their favorite musician and he acted like a total nutball and a giant jerk. Yup, what comes around goes around evillol


Thanks!! smile
I hate to be a petty "na na na na na" kinda person, but it is a type of poetic justice. Still it's so unfair to the fan community and I hate to see Prince hurt even if he brought it upon himself.
Now could ya rearrange the words in your response and add some mystic babble so that I can have one of those crazy ass cryptic quotes to decipher for myself??? lol smile biggrin
[Edited 7/12/06 8:09am]
I AM BEATLOAF
www.myspace.com/teriteriboberi
www.stickam.com/profile/Beatloaf
www.myspace.com/americasfunnyman
www.stephenking.com
www.tomgreen.com

I'm my own favorite orger and that trumps any elitist list you guys can come up with.
Reply #275 posted 07/12/06 10:44am

wonder505

Terilicious said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Awwwww comfort lol

You know, at first I was kinda put off by the whole Karma angle in this thread and then I got to thinkin this is exactly what Prince deserves for being such a jackass in the 90s and suing his fans who's only crime was being devoted fans. So many of the fans he went after only had lyrics on their site and pictures in honor of their favorite musician and he acted like a total nutball and a giant jerk. Yup, what comes around goes around evillol


Thanks!! smile
I hate to be a petty "na na na na na" kinda person, but it is a type of poetic justice. Still it's so unfair to the fan community and I hate to see Prince hurt even if he brought it upon himself.
Now could ya rearrange the words in your response and add some mystic babble so that I can have one of those crazy ass cryptic quotes to decipher for myself??? lol smile biggrin
[Edited 7/12/06 8:09am]


Yes, karma is hitting on all levels, let's hope there's a lot of reflection going on. I just hope this all get resolved and some shows be announced real soon.
Reply #276 posted 07/12/06 11:14am

sosgemini

Graycap23 said:

jseven said:

This article quotes an attorney for Paisley Park Enterprises that, "to the best of his knowledge, the web site closing and the trademark, were not related"

http://www.thebumpsquad.com

http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/11/prince-abruptly-closes-official-web-site/

Prince Abruptly Closes Official Web Site
Posted Jul 11th 2006 5:34PM by TMZ Staff


Prince's official Web site, NPGMusicClub.com, closed suddenly last week with no advanced notice. The club simply sent around an email that said, in part, they decided to "put the club on hiatus until further notice."

The announcement went on to say, "In its current [form] there is a feeling that the NPGMC gone as far as it can go." It ended, "The future holds nothing but endless opportunity and we plan on seizing it wholeheartedly. Don't u want 2 come?"

In a possibly related story, Prince filed for a trademark on the mark "NPG Music Club" last year. An opposition was filed against that claim by HM Publishers Holding Limited, which owns the Nature Publishing Group, or NPG. The opposition was filed on the same day that NPGMusicClub.com was put on "hiatus."
An attorney for Prince's company, Paisley Park Enterprises, told TMZ that the two incidents were not related, to the best of his knowledge, and that the "opposition will be resolved shortly."

Prince has been one of the pioneers of music on the Internet. He was the first major artist to release an entire album -- 1997's "Crystal Ball" -- exclusively on the Web. The NPG Music Club had boasted several full-length CDs of music that were unavailable anywhere else.

He was honored last month with a Webby Lifetime Achievement Award. "Besides being a musical genius, Prince is a visionary who recognized early on that the web would completely change how we experience music," said Tiffany Shlain, founder of The Webby Awards. "For more than a decade, he has tapped the power of the Web to forge a deeper connection with his fans and push the boundaries of technology and art."

http://www.thebumpsquad.com

I guess this BLOWS up yall dumbass theories.....



not really...like prince has ever been honest and forthcoming about any thing. lol


so we are supposed to expect his camp to be honest now? while he might not have been threatened to close the site down its obvious (in my view) that the lawsuit was a factor in him deciding to change directions...

shrug
Space for sale...
Reply #277 posted 07/12/06 11:46am

bygrl6

I think it's a DAMN shame that this has happened! I don't see how people would mistake NPGMC for NPG! To me this lawsuit is stupid! I think ya'll should stand behind him and have Faith that all of this works out for the best! Quit dogging the man out!!!!!
Reply #278 posted 07/12/06 5:40pm

babynoz

bygrl6 said:

I think it's a DAMN shame that this has happened! I don't see how people would mistake NPGMC for NPG! To me this lawsuit is stupid! I think ya'll should stand behind him and have Faith that all of this works out for the best! Quit dogging the man out!!!!!





nod
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
Reply #279 posted 07/12/06 6:04pm

sacredwarrior

Graycap23 said:

I guess this BLOWS up yall dumbass theories.....


flame.

when i got here i read the rules

it says we're not supposed to post rumour attention seeking threads


which cant be supported with source back-up


" Prince told me " is hardly proof.



*


for the record

the theories expressed here arent 'dumbass' at all


" karma is hitting on all levels "



take care and peace out


heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #280 posted 07/12/06 7:44pm

BSK3601

sacredwarrior said:

Graycap23 said:

I guess this BLOWS up yall dumbass theories.....


flame.

when i got here i read the rules

it says we're not supposed to post rumour attention seeking threads


which cant be supported with source back-up


" Prince told me " is hardly proof.



*


for the record

the theories expressed here arent 'dumbass' at all


" karma is hitting on all levels "



take care and peace out


heart


the rules also state
Don't post useless off-topic stuff


yet you continuously do so...
Reply #281 posted 07/12/06 9:57pm

sacredwarrior

BSK3601 said:[quote]

sacredwarrior said:



the rules also state
Don't post useless off-topic stuff


yet you continuously do so...



if you or they cant see the connection

then i guess thats on you and them


heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #282 posted 07/12/06 10:33pm

BSK3601

sacredwarrior said:

BSK3601 said:



yet you continuously do so...



if you or they cant see the connection

then i guess thats on you and them


heart



Maybe they can see it if they purchase one of your compact discs... $10.99
Reply #283 posted 07/12/06 11:18pm

Snap

jseven said:

This article quotes [b]an attorney for Paisley Park Enterprises that, "to the best of his knowledge...


that's not exactly a black and white answer, is it?
the only time people say "to the best of my knowledge"
is when they covering up for something they do know
or covering up for something they don't know

so, what it is?!

"to the best of my knowledge" should be outlawed
that ain't an answer

the madnesty continues...
Reply #284 posted 07/13/06 3:43am

blanket

This is all going slightly crazy people. Calm down please.
Just to add some news to the ongoing discussion (and forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but there are 10 pages of bitterness here). Taken from the UK's CMU Daily newsletter:

NPG SHUTDOWN NOT DUE TO TRADEMARK
A legal representative of Prince has denied the NPG Music Club is on hold
because of a trademark legal dispute. As previously reported, Prince's award
winning online fan community went on hiatus earlier this month. This
followed a legal claim by British based HM Publishing Holdings that they
owned the NPG trademark for its science-book subsidiary the Nature
Publishing Group. But Princes' lawyer, David Schelzel, has told reporters
that those two events are not connected and that the singer already has
approval to use the NPG name from the US Patent and Trademark Office and
that therefore the trademark legal action against him is "minor". He told
the Star Tribune newspaper: "Prince's use of the NPG trademarks is no way in
jeopardy". Asked why the site had gone down, Schelzel said: "Wait and see"
Reply #285 posted 07/13/06 4:08am

adehone

Not sure if this has been posted here as yet but I found this link on a website called Launch, which is affiliated with Yahoo !!

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/34010201
Today was Tomorrow and Yesterday was Today...so what time is it now ??
Reply #286 posted 07/13/06 5:32am

go2theMax

As one said here b4, Prince is a visionary. Anybody remember the intro of the NPG's "Exodus" album with the operator saying "When it comes time 2 download your work into your fans' computers"...this is 1995 when no other artist or even most of the people knew that was gonna be the future of music's distribution, even the internet back then was in its firts steps...Ya'll have 2 give him some credit!

peace
Dre
Reply #287 posted 07/13/06 7:48am

rhomea

sosgemini said:

Graycap23 said:


I guess this BLOWS up yall dumbass theories.....



not really...like prince has ever been honest and forthcoming about any thing. lol


so we are supposed to expect his camp to be honest now? while he might not have been threatened to close the site down its obvious (in my view) that the lawsuit was a factor in him deciding to change directions...

shrug

sorry guy but there is no evidence to support your assumption and ALL the evidence (as I told you before) says that is NOT the case. THERE IS NO LAWSUIT! just an objection to a TM filing.

It did not compell Prince to do anything with the Member areas of the site and the fact is he is still selling NPG merchandise on a site that is still marked with NPG all over it!


So if you and (any one else who can't wrap their mind around Prince shutting down on his own) want to keep believing that an UNRELATED TM appeal did - your choice.

But the facts of the matter - and now his lawyers - clearly show that it didn't.
Frank Zappa was the greatest American composer of the last 50 years, the greatest electric guitarist to have ever played that instrument, and his music will be performed live long after Purple Rain will have been forgotten.
Reply #288 posted 07/13/06 8:23am

rhomea

I'd respectfully suggest to the Mods here that you get this now (thank god) disproven and illogical, inaccurate hyperbolic thread off as a sticky - now that 15,000 page views have been wasted on complete... supposition (See - i'm being polite here smile ).
Never mind that this stuff has now spilled all over ALL the Prince sites rolleyes

If you really want to now what is going on with Prince -- as usual just follow the MUSIC or the MONEY...


http://www.prince.org/msg/13/195385?pg=1
[Edited 7/13/06 8:23am]
Frank Zappa was the greatest American composer of the last 50 years, the greatest electric guitarist to have ever played that instrument, and his music will be performed live long after Purple Rain will have been forgotten.
Reply #289 posted 07/13/06 8:33am

sosgemini

rhomea said:

I'd respectfully suggest to the Mods here that you get this now (thank god) disproven and illogical, inaccurate hyperbolic thread off as a sticky - now that 15,000 page views have been wasted on complete... supposition (See - i'm being polite here smile ).
Never mind that this stuff has now spilled all over ALL the Prince sites rolleyes

If you really want to now what is going on with Prince -- as usual just follow the MUSIC or the MONEY...


http://www.prince.org/msg/13/195385?pg=1
[Edited 7/13/06 8:23am]



nothing has been disproved...people are hear to debate their own theories...you may disagree with them but the fact of the matter is none of us know whats going on. so let folks have their fun pontificating on whats going on.

look, while some may disagree, we at the org try our hardest to allow folks to discuss things openly...the last thing we want is this place to turn into another npgmc.


wave
[Edited 7/13/06 8:56am]
Space for sale...
Reply #290 posted 07/13/06 9:08am

rhomea

sosgemini said:

rhomea said:

I'd respectfully suggest to the Mods here that you get this now (thank god) disproven and illogical, inaccurate hyperbolic thread off as a sticky - now that 15,000 page views have been wasted on complete... supposition (See - i'm being polite here smile ).
Never mind that this stuff has now spilled all over ALL the Prince sites rolleyes

If you really want to now what is going on with Prince -- as usual just follow the MUSIC or the MONEY...


http://www.prince.org/msg/13/195385?pg=1
[Edited 7/13/06 8:23am]



nothing has been disproving...people are hear to debate their own theories..your free to agree to disagree but dont be coming here telling people how they should think or what discussions should be had here...

you are one of thousands or participants here on the org...sit back and enjoy yourself.

wave

OK... i gotta say that's rubbish

A)"nothing has been disproving..."
Really confused I would say that the following false statements have now been completely disproven (there were plenty more just can't be bothered):
but the thing is that whatever music would have,or has been published under the banner of "NPG" could b caput.

His hands, the NPGMC's hands were tied - they had 2 shut down on reciept of that letter


B) I wouldn't presume "to be coming here telling people how they should think" and did no such thing. I AM A BIG FAN OF INDIE THINKING 8) I believe that lots of OTHER people here have been telling people what to think based on wholly erroneous and unsupported theories.

is that a crime? No
is this a court of law? NO
should it have been made a sticky which gives it the endorsement of the ORG? IMO No (but then you knew that already wink )

C)" or [telling] what discussions should be had here..."
AGAIN, I did no such thing - what I DID do was point out to you early on that this thread was based on nothing but unsupported and illogical misinterpretations of the legal situation. based on that, I suggested that making it a sticky was a bad idea.

D) I AM sitting back, relaxed and having fun. from your ORIGINAL typing I might think that perhaps it is you who was a tad upset wink
but Your Modesty, since you are the boss here- you do what you feel like.

just don't hurl accusations at me unless you can back them up.

wave
Frank Zappa was the greatest American composer of the last 50 years, the greatest electric guitarist to have ever played that instrument, and his music will be performed live long after Purple Rain will have been forgotten.
Reply #291 posted 07/13/06 9:14am

rhomea

sosgemini said:

rhomea said:

I'd respectfully suggest to the Mods here that you get this now (thank god) disproven and illogical, inaccurate hyperbolic thread off as a sticky - now that 15,000 page views have been wasted on complete... supposition (See - i'm being polite here smile ).
Never mind that this stuff has now spilled all over ALL the Prince sites rolleyes

If you really want to now what is going on with Prince -- as usual just follow the MUSIC or the MONEY...


http://www.prince.org/msg/13/195385?pg=1
[Edited 7/13/06 8:23am]



nothing has been disproved...people are hear to debate their own theories...you may disagree with them but the fact of the matter is none of us know whats going on. so let folks have their fun pontificating on whats going on.

look, while some may disagree, we at the org try our hardest to allow folks to discuss things openly...the last thing we want is this place to turn into another npgmc.


wave
[Edited 7/13/06 8:56am]


well that's more MODERATE wink
and lord knows I who had 100s of posts Deeleted, threads locked and was banned for not following their capricious and arbitrary rules would never want to see anything like the MC forums done anywhere rolleyes

So now that we understand each other - let's pass the peace pipe. blunt
Frank Zappa was the greatest American composer of the last 50 years, the greatest electric guitarist to have ever played that instrument, and his music will be performed live long after Purple Rain will have been forgotten.
Reply #292 posted 07/13/06 10:56am

VenusBlingBling

Hey guys, I don't know if this has already been posted, but glamslam.org sent this bulletin on myspace today:


Princes Web site shut down
Attorney says its not due to recent trademark lawsuit

Updated: 6:17 p.m. MT July 12, 2006
MINNEAPOLIS - Princes fan Web site has been shut down, but an attorney for the musician says its not related to a recent trademark lawsuit against the site, NPGMusicClub.com.

HM Publishing Holdings, a book company in England, filed the lawsuit on July 3 based on its own NPG, a science-book subsidiary called the Nature Publishing Group.

Princes attorney, David Schelzel, said Prince already has approval of the name from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, and that the legal action is minor.


Princes use of the NPG or Paisley Park trademarks is no way in jeopardy, Schelzel said. When asked why the site was shut down, Schelzel told the Star Tribune Wait and see.

Last month, New Yorks RED Distribution announced a deal in which it will be the sole distributor of all of Princes NPG products. Soon after that, an e-mail was sent out to NPG members saying the site had entered a time of great reflection and restructuring.

The online club started around 2000, and it won Prince a Webby Award in June for being an Internet innovator.

In its current 4m (form), there is a feeling that the NPGMC has gone as far as it can go, the e-mail said. The future holds nothing but endless opportunity. Dont u want 2 come?

© 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

msnbc.com
Reply #293 posted 07/13/06 11:20am

jone70

VenusBlingBling said:

Hey guys, I don't know if this has already been posted, but glamslam.org sent this bulletin on myspace today:




It's been posted here: http://www.prince.org/msg/13/195261

and parts of it are also being discussed here: http://www.prince.org/msg/7/195313

cool
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
Reply #294 posted 07/13/06 1:01pm

Snap

sosgemini said:



look, while some may disagree, we at the org try our hardest to allow folks to discuss things openly...the last thing we want is this place to turn into another npgmc.


nod thumbs up!
Reply #295 posted 07/13/06 1:03pm

Snap

adehone said:

Not sure if this has been posted here as yet but I found this link on a website called Launch, which is affiliated with Yahoo !!

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/34010201


this reporter needs to go out and get his own facts instead of stealing other people's erroneous statements
Reply #296 posted 07/13/06 4:58pm

theerainbochild

After taking some time to read the link that synergy provided, I feel that those of us who really care about Prince and NPG,NPGMC, WNPG and what ever else Prince has his hand in should send prayer up for the man. We dont know what is really going on and we will not know what is really going on until we hear something from Prince and his people. A person that is now into their religion will be attacked by unwanted and evil.
I have in one hand a bucket of water and a torch in the other, with these I will set heaven on fire and put out the flames in hell so that no one will worship god in fear of not going to heaven or ending up in hell.
Reply #297 posted 07/13/06 5:40pm

sacredwarrior

rhomea said:

the fact is he is still selling NPG merchandise on a site that is still marked with NPG all over it!
.



" goodbye fuck off no warning no courtesy...but do feel free to keep giving us your money..we have lots of ultimately useless things to sell you...and most of it has nothing to do with music...we're even gunna keep selling you soundwaves cuz we're too faithless to give em to you for free...but we've been conditioned by the system and refuse to evolve cuz we think we know better than Jehovah "
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #298 posted 07/13/06 5:53pm

wonder505

Snap said:

sosgemini said:



look, while some may disagree, we at the org try our hardest to allow folks to discuss things openly...the last thing we want is this place to turn into another npgmc.


nod thumbs up!



I totally agree! cool
Reply #299 posted 07/14/06 4:56am

maniraptess

how could prince not know about nature magazine? this is so funny. you can google npg and there it is.
Reply #300 posted 07/14/06 6:34am

wonder505

maniraptess said:

how could prince not know about nature magazine? this is so funny. you can google npg and there it is.


There are a lot of companies who exist using similar abbreviations, so the fact that NPG exist is not the issue. NPG Magazine is challenging whether or not NPG Music Club selling books would be an issue.

This happens all the time in the business world. We'll just have to wait and see what the outcome is.
Reply #301 posted 07/14/06 12:43pm

bygrl6

Thank God that's it't not a trademark dispute! Whatever the reason; GIVE THE MAN A BREAK! I hope he's still going on tour soon because I want tickets to go to the concert like everyone else! PLEASE DON'T KEEP US IN SUSPENSE ANY LONGER!
Reply #302 posted 07/14/06 3:25pm

mchotsie

Wow....this is a shock eek









Hi Syn wink
Reply #303 posted 07/14/06 5:38pm

sacredwarrior

Nature...



versus



Nightclubs...




"Make a choice and Make it quick"


prince
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #304 posted 07/14/06 5:41pm

wonder505

bygrl6 said:

Thank God that's it't not a trademark dispute! Whatever the reason; GIVE THE MAN A BREAK! I hope he's still going on tour soon because I want tickets to go to the concert like everyone else! PLEASE DON'T KEEP US IN SUSPENSE ANY LONGER!



I'm with you. I hope this gets resolved really quick, I'm eagerly awaiting the next tour or show, whether its Prince or Prince featuring Tamar or vice versa.
[Edited 7/14/06 17:43pm]
Reply #305 posted 07/16/06 1:12pm

2the9s

censored

I just got banned by the Nature Publishing Group!!

mad
Reply #306 posted 07/16/06 4:38pm

sacredwarrior

2the9s said:

censored

I just got banned by the Nature Publishing Group!!

mad


do u respect the Sun ?

sun
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #307 posted 07/16/06 8:10pm

Moonbeam

eek Good luck with it all, Prince! thumbs up!
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Reply #308 posted 07/17/06 8:05am

Lospigg

Synergy said:

I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

So, is this possible? Or am I just evil? lol lol lol

Oh and U're welcome on thanks 4 my research... Cool[/color][/b]



I think that is a great idea....who is with us? stand up & be counted, lets do the work.
Reply #309 posted 07/17/06 2:43pm

grandebelle

cool I read the post of HONEYMOONXPRESS on page 20 of this thread and couldnt agree more!!!The CHAT was deplorable! It was cool in the beginning. The moderators did their job, then slowly they disappeared and the chat went down hill with people coming in who couldnt have cared less about prince. There was some very strange, very disrespectful, very nasty people there. I could swear gangbangers have more sense! Juliansride was correct when he told me to stay away from there. These were people into some cult?, satanists?, witchcraft?, vampires?, criminal activity?, secretiveness?, and MIND CONTROL-big time?. I dreaded going there after awhile. I had people talk 2 me about serious subjects and all of a sudden turned it into a joke. I was accused of gossiping about people which WAS NOT true. NOT my style at all! Then i realized some of them were from my area where I live and were watching me, but accusing ME of doing the stalking! LOL. I dont have time 2 stalk nor is that my style either! I believe HONEYMOONXPRESS when he says prince was too cheap! To keep the azzes and creeps from invading, one (prince) must charge enough to break the bastards bankbooks so they cant AFFORD to screw around & make his site look like crap. I'm sorry to see it close but he'll come up with another great idea as he finally realized what was taking place. I'm HAPPY he didnt let it go on. THIS is and was my CONCERN all along. Prince needs 2 keep up the classy image he already has EVERYWHERE. That chatroom was horrendous! I hope he has another chat but that its EXPENSIVE, and well MONITORED ( i can help ) and that spirituality and his music is again the main focus with no vulgarity and negativity allowed. I, myself was getting negative with certain people because they were so nasty, AND the subject matters were infantile 2 say the least!!! I am not a negative person and they forced me to be. Now, there were about a handful of members who were a joy 2 speak with. They slowly left as I did! I wont mention names as then I'd need 2 mention the trouble makers. This is not important. confused I have to say prince always makes me proud. I hate people who diss him because hes the best in what he does & how he gives to his fans! IMHO! This reminds me of the cellys in minne where he opened his studio to his fans to navigate, and they stole his teas and tapes etc. so he needed 2 close that up as well. Prince likes to mingle among the fans, but I think he got tired of it and moved to cali! THANX CROOKS! mad sad Now his true loyal people have 2 suffer! But he did right. I hope he keeps his prices UP too. Hes worth it, and it will weed out the riff raff! Hes not a GREEDY man and that pic someone posted with all the bills saying mani wants more money is out of line, not funny and not an admirerer! GOOD LUCK 2 U PRINCE ALWAYS! U GOT STYLE!
May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love. hug kisses
Reply #310 posted 07/17/06 2:47pm

grandebelle

sacredwarrior said:

Nature...



versus



Nightclubs...




"Make a choice and Make it quick"


prince

GORGEOUS PHOTOS!!! I LIVE NEAR L. MICHIGAN & SUPERIOR & SAW THIS ALOT WHEN I WAS MARRIED AND WE WENT OUT ON THE SEARAY EVERY CHANCE WE GOT! [/color] cool
May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love. hug kisses
Reply #311 posted 07/17/06 7:30pm

GLuv4U

Synergy said:

I have an idea on what we could do 2 help Prince... but I doubt that anyone here would b interested, am I correct?



What do U propose we as loyal Prince fans could do 2 help him? smile
Reply #312 posted 07/17/06 8:40pm

Terilicious

grandebelle said:

cool I read the post of HONEYMOONXPRESS on page 20 of this thread and couldnt agree more!!!The CHAT was deplorable! It was cool in the beginning. The moderators did their job, then slowly they disappeared and the chat went down hill with people coming in who couldnt have cared less about prince. There was some very strange, very disrespectful, very nasty people there. I could swear gangbangers have more sense! Juliansride was correct when he told me to stay away from there. These were people into some cult?, satanists?, witchcraft?, vampires?, criminal activity?, secretiveness?, and MIND CONTROL-big time?. I dreaded going there after awhile. I had people talk 2 me about serious subjects and all of a sudden turned it into a joke. I was accused of gossiping about people which WAS NOT true. NOT my style at all! Then i realized some of them were from my area where I live and were watching me, but accusing ME of doing the stalking! LOL. I dont have time 2 stalk nor is that my style either! I believe HONEYMOONXPRESS when he says prince was too cheap! To keep the azzes and creeps from invading, one (prince) must charge enough to break the bastards bankbooks so they cant AFFORD to screw around & make his site look like crap. I'm sorry to see it close but he'll come up with another great idea as he finally realized what was taking place. I'm HAPPY he didnt let it go on. THIS is and was my CONCERN all along. Prince needs 2 keep up the classy image he already has EVERYWHERE. That chatroom was horrendous! I hope he has another chat but that its EXPENSIVE, and well MONITORED ( i can help ) and that spirituality and his music is again the main focus with no vulgarity and negativity allowed. I, myself was getting negative with certain people because they were so nasty, AND the subject matters were infantile 2 say the least!!! I am not a negative person and they forced me to be. Now, there were about a handful of members who were a joy 2 speak with. They slowly left as I did! I wont mention names as then I'd need 2 mention the trouble makers. This is not important. confused I have to say prince always makes me proud. I hate people who diss him because hes the best in what he does & how he gives to his fans! IMHO! This reminds me of the cellys in minne where he opened his studio to his fans to navigate, and they stole his teas and tapes etc. so he needed 2 close that up as well. Prince likes to mingle among the fans, but I think he got tired of it and moved to cali! THANX CROOKS! mad sad Now his true loyal people have 2 suffer! But he did right. I hope he keeps his prices UP too. Hes worth it, and it will weed out the riff raff! Hes not a GREEDY man and that pic someone posted with all the bills saying mani wants more money is out of line, not funny and not an admirerer! GOOD LUCK 2 U PRINCE ALWAYS! U GOT STYLE!



Can I ask why you assume that the people who were those negative forces that you talked about were poor or unable to afford a higher membership price? People with $$ can be just as negative and sometimes worse. I wasn't a NPGMC member very long, but my chat experiences were OK. There was some negativity but I didn't pick up that "thug-vampire-mind control" vibe you were going on about. You seem pretty tightly wound. Perhaps you should relax a bit. chill pill couch
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Reply #313 posted 07/18/06 1:22pm

AngeliccaA

sad


Im truly upset about this!

http://cdbaby.com/cd/ghoffman
Kendra
Reply #314 posted 07/18/06 11:11pm

Snap

chat was good the 1st 6 months
okay for the next 6 months
and then disbelief most the time
i'd pop in for a few then have to leave
Reply #315 posted 07/19/06 1:45am

nesci

Terilicious said:

grandebelle said:

cool I read the post of HONEYMOONXPRESS on page 20 of this thread and couldnt agree more!!!The CHAT was deplorable! It was cool in the beginning. The moderators did their job, then slowly they disappeared and the chat went down hill with people coming in who couldnt have cared less about prince. There was some very strange, very disrespectful, very nasty people there. I could swear gangbangers have more sense! Juliansride was correct when he told me to stay away from there. These were people into some cult?, satanists?, witchcraft?, vampires?, criminal activity?, secretiveness?, and MIND CONTROL-big time?. I dreaded going there after awhile. I had people talk 2 me about serious subjects and all of a sudden turned it into a joke. I was accused of gossiping about people which WAS NOT true. NOT my style at all! Then i realized some of them were from my area where I live and were watching me, but accusing ME of doing the stalking! LOL. I dont have time 2 stalk nor is that my style either! I believe HONEYMOONXPRESS when he says prince was too cheap! To keep the azzes and creeps from invading, one (prince) must charge enough to break the bastards bankbooks so they cant AFFORD to screw around & make his site look like crap. I'm sorry to see it close but he'll come up with another great idea as he finally realized what was taking place. I'm HAPPY he didnt let it go on. THIS is and was my CONCERN all along. Prince needs 2 keep up the classy image he already has EVERYWHERE. That chatroom was horrendous! I hope he has another chat but that its EXPENSIVE, and well MONITORED ( i can help ) and that spirituality and his music is again the main focus with no vulgarity and negativity allowed. I, myself was getting negative with certain people because they were so nasty, AND the subject matters were infantile 2 say the least!!! I am not a negative person and they forced me to be. Now, there were about a handful of members who were a joy 2 speak with. They slowly left as I did! I wont mention names as then I'd need 2 mention the trouble makers. This is not important. confused I have to say prince always makes me proud. I hate people who diss him because hes the best in what he does & how he gives to his fans! IMHO! This reminds me of the cellys in minne where he opened his studio to his fans to navigate, and they stole his teas and tapes etc. so he needed 2 close that up as well. Prince likes to mingle among the fans, but I think he got tired of it and moved to cali! THANX CROOKS! mad sad Now his true loyal people have 2 suffer! But he did right. I hope he keeps his prices UP too. Hes worth it, and it will weed out the riff raff! Hes not a GREEDY man and that pic someone posted with all the bills saying mani wants more money is out of line, not funny and not an admirerer! GOOD LUCK 2 U PRINCE ALWAYS! U GOT STYLE!



Can I ask why you assume that the people who were those negative forces that you talked about were poor or unable to afford a higher membership price? People with $$ can be just as negative and sometimes worse. I wasn't a NPGMC member very long, but my chat experiences were OK. There was some negativity but I didn't pick up that "thug-vampire-mind control" vibe you were going on about. You seem pretty tightly wound. Perhaps you should relax a bit. chill pill couch
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Reply #316 posted 07/19/06 3:50am

SuiteLady

I realize I'm very late coming in on this, but Whisky-Tango-Foxtrot, Over? I can't possibly be the only one to NOT receive official notification that the NPG music club was shutting down? I found out about it from the LoveSexyDC weekly update. So it appears that this is all about trademark issues? Very complicated and very expensive and, as someone else stated, a definite karma-boomerang for Prince. I guess now he'll have a better understanding of what it's like to have the shoe on the other foot. Pity to have to learn that lesson so intensely.
Reply #317 posted 07/19/06 5:29am

sacredwarrior

I certainly hope that those members who thought they could get to Heaven by putting other people through Hell, who singlehandedly crushed many peoples ability to even handle it ( like myself ), almost forcing us to become like them if we wanted to stay, and making many many people ( inlcuding myself ) NOT think very highly of Prince.....

fully comprehend and appreciate karmic law.


those of us who protested were kicked out by mods who gladly took another 25 dollars each time we came back cuz we just wanted to be there.

i am very grateful for everything i learned at that club, but it wasnt thanks to how well people treated me, it was thanks to how badly they treated me, and interfered in probably the most significant moment of my life.

i was prayed upon in the chatroom by mods and other pp workers who were jealous and suspicious of me from the get go, trynna wrap their little parasitic cyber-claws around me and test me and poke me and prod me.

i'm thankful now i know how to handle such sorry ignorance and i truly hope they find a better way of respectin a man the way he shoulda always been respected, instead of trynna deliberately make other people hate him, so they never get close to him and they can keep him all to themselves. such childishness.

despicable and forgivable..but their behaviour must change.

upgrade away and all the best with it.
i like it here at the org and wont be returning to the club if it is run by any of the same people.

heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #318 posted 07/19/06 5:46am

sacredwarrior

oh and...

Priana,

I have to say you are probably the most deeply insecure, cruel, vindictive, shallow, hateful bully I have ever had the displeasure of knowing.

Sadly you managed to infect me with your illness and toxified my life for 3 years. Your words to me and treatment of me made me literally vomit on 3 different occasions.

On the other hand, knowing you, taught me all about who I'm not. Popularity is not the same as Friendship never was never will be. And one day I hope you realise this for your own sake, so that you might find some inner peace.

Thank you kindly for such harsh lessons in self-respect.
I wish you Heaven and hope one day you will open your heart and mind up enough to actually find it.

Hope you enjoyed meeting Prince,
but you got pawned.

So sad the games people play, and frightful to think they still playin em despite how much pain they cause.

Wishin you all the best.
heart
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #319 posted 07/19/06 12:10pm

vainandy

I'm glad it's shut down. Now maybe I can get close up seats for the next tour instead of having to look at those damn club members up front. lol
Andy is a four letter word.
Reply #320 posted 07/20/06 11:03am

whitedove9999

Synergy said:

NPGMC was shut down the day that an opposition 2 it's trademark was filed. The opposing company HM Publishing filed trademark 4 everything under the sun... AFTER NPGMC and NPG records filed 4 trademark twice. It hasn't been said, but the club shut down the day the opposition was filed.


[Link http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91171672&pty=OPP&eno=1 - luv4u]


Hi Synergy,
How are you? It's been a long time, since we've talked. I am so angry at this lawsuit against Prince. It's not fair on him, for what they are doing to him.
In turn, it has caused us members to suffer, from the shut down of the site. I hope Prince will be able to build a new website, so we all can come together as a NPG family.
Well, I have to get back to work. Take Care Synergy and it was good talking to you again.
Reply #321 posted 07/20/06 11:11am

whitedove9999

Lospigg said:

Synergy said:

I am wondering, if "we" as the members of The "NPG" can throw some salt into Nature's game, in the 4m of a class action suit, if 4 nothing else, 2 tie their hands up as they have tied Prince's hands.

They have, by their lawsuit, infringed upon r memberships, causing undo stress 2 many members, loss of friendships, loss of access 2 music and merchandise and perks that as NPG members, we are entitled too.

I am serious, I don't expect it 2 go anywhere, but nothing will choke a lawsuit like another lawsuit? Get me... Prince/prince has been calling fam NPG since the early 90's - we can claim that as a "community" HM is causing harm.

So, is this possible? Or am I just evil? lol lol lol

Oh and U're welcome on thanks 4 my research... Cool[/color][/b]



I think that is a great idea....who is with us? stand up & be counted, lets do the work.


I'M WITH YOU ALL THE WAY ON THIS ONE! GREAT IDEA!!! I'LL MAKE A ROAR IN HONOR OF PRINCE!!
Reply #322 posted 07/20/06 2:36pm

grandebelle

Terilicious said:

grandebelle said:

cool I read the post of HONEYMOONXPRESS on page 20 of this thread and couldnt agree more!!!The CHAT was deplorable! It was cool in the beginning. The moderators did their job, then slowly they disappeared and the chat went down hill with people coming in who couldnt have cared less about prince. There was some very strange, very disrespectful, very nasty people there. I could swear gangbangers have more sense! Juliansride was correct when he told me to stay away from there. These were people into some cult?, satanists?, witchcraft?, vampires?, criminal activity?, secretiveness?, and MIND CONTROL-big time?. I dreaded going there after awhile. I had people talk 2 me about serious subjects and all of a sudden turned it into a joke. I was accused of gossiping about people which WAS NOT true. NOT my style at all! Then i realized some of them were from my area where I live and were watching me, but accusing ME of doing the stalking! LOL. I dont have time 2 stalk nor is that my style either! I believe HONEYMOONXPRESS when he says prince was too cheap! To keep the azzes and creeps from invading, one (prince) must charge enough to break the bastards bankbooks so they cant AFFORD to screw around & make his site look like crap. I'm sorry to see it close but he'll come up with another great idea as he finally realized what was taking place. I'm HAPPY he didnt let it go on. THIS is and was my CONCERN all along. Prince needs 2 keep up the classy image he already has EVERYWHERE. That chatroom was horrendous! I hope he has another chat but that its EXPENSIVE, and well MONITORED ( i can help ) and that spirituality and his music is again the main focus with no vulgarity and negativity allowed. I, myself was getting negative with certain people because they were so nasty, AND the subject matters were infantile 2 say the least!!! I am not a negative person and they forced me to be. Now, there were about a handful of members who were a joy 2 speak with. They slowly left as I did! I wont mention names as then I'd need 2 mention the trouble makers. This is not important. confused I have to say prince always makes me proud. I hate people who diss him because hes the best in what he does & how he gives to his fans! IMHO! This reminds me of the cellys in minne where he opened his studio to his fans to navigate, and they stole his teas and tapes etc. so he needed 2 close that up as well. Prince likes to mingle among the fans, but I think he got tired of it and moved to cali! THANX CROOKS! mad sad Now his true loyal people have 2 suffer! But he did right. I hope he keeps his prices UP too. Hes worth it, and it will weed out the riff raff! Hes not a GREEDY man and that pic someone posted with all the bills saying mani wants more money is out of line, not funny and not an admirerer! GOOD LUCK 2 U PRINCE ALWAYS! U GOT STYLE!



Can I ask why you assume that the people who were those negative forces that you talked about were poor or unable to afford a higher membership price? People with $$ can be just as negative and sometimes worse. I wasn't a NPGMC member very long, but my chat experiences were OK. There was some negativity but I didn't pick up that "thug-vampire-mind control" vibe you were going on about. You seem pretty tightly wound. Perhaps you should relax a bit. chill pill couch

First off, I need to stand corrected! The post i am referring 2 is not composed by honeymoonxpress. It was another orger. Not sure who. Sorry. lol 2nd...2 reply to ur very intelligent post....terilicious... Its an opinion I agreed to with the post composer! NOT MY IDEA! I feel people can be asses no matter what they earn, biggrin However these people were either VERY rich or VERY poor as all they had 2 do EVERY DAY 24/7 is talk shit. AND THAT wasnt about prince. I was told by a select few, how much they enjoyed coming in the chat when I was there because I, and a few others were there 4 the right reasons and were great 2 talk 2. I felt the same. A FEW! Thats why I kept going back. NOT 4 the rude ones! MY experiences & OTHERS were not any where near good with the open chat. The same retards always were there making prince look very bad.They DEFINATELY used MIND CONTROL teqniques as I have studied this thoroughly & know what I see. I met people so mixed up and ill from this torture i cried. I cried 4 myself 2, bcuz I was getting wrapped up in it all! Prince saw it 2...He came in less & less & only spoke to people 4 a bit. Maybe why u say I'm wound is I AM! Maybe YOU are one who pretended to be prince like many did 2 elude ppl 4 a joke. The strong ones, like myself waded through the surf but some werent so fortunate. This upsets me. It was cruel. God will deal with those. And I know how to relax...stay away from these manipulaters. Getting easier 2 spot 2! smile peace 2 all.
May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love. hug kisses
Reply #323 posted 07/21/06 7:02pm

VenusDeMilo9999

Where have u been ? U and I totally agree. Tha reason I started feelin discouraged with Prince in tha chat room, becoz these people were not honoring tha agreement we made with Prince, the Agreement of unity, love & respect, and I thought he didnt care that they were disrespecting his club and us like that becoz it went on 4 so long, but I guess his way of handling it was totally surprize 2 them.If there is another club i suggest that He makes his Presence known when he's there, so we can get what we(I -4 -1) joined for, 2 hear tha truth about what i want 2 know about Prince from tha mouth(or tha mind ) of Prince himself.Or even 2 hold a conversation with Prince, and 4 this reason, he wouldnt need 2 disguise himself, he can just b himself.
may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go...
Reply #324 posted 07/21/06 7:14pm

VenusDeMilo9999

Terilicious said:

grandebelle said:

cool I read the post of HONEYMOONXPRESS on page 20 of this thread and couldnt agree more!!!The CHAT was deplorable! It was cool in the beginning. The moderators did their job, then slowly they disappeared and the chat went down hill with people coming in who couldnt have cared less about prince. There was some very strange, very disrespectful, very nasty people there. I could swear gangbangers have more sense! Juliansride was correct when he told me to stay away from there. These were people into some cult?, satanists?, witchcraft?, vampires?, criminal activity?, secretiveness?, and MIND CONTROL-big time?. I dreaded going there after awhile. I had people talk 2 me about serious subjects and all of a sudden turned it into a joke. I was accused of gossiping about people which WAS NOT true. NOT my style at all! Then i realized some of them were from my area where I live and were watching me, but accusing ME of doing the stalking! LOL. I dont have time 2 stalk nor is that my style either! I believe HONEYMOONXPRESS when he says prince was too cheap! To keep the azzes and creeps from invading, one (prince) must charge enough to break the bastards bankbooks so they cant
AFFORD to screw around & make his site look like crap. I'm sorry to see it close but he'll come up with another great idea as he finally realized what was taking place. I'm HAPPY he didnt let it go on. THIS is and was my CONCERN all along. Prince needs 2 keep up the classy image he already has EVERYWHERE. That chatroom was horrendous! I hope he has another chat but that its EXPENSIVE, and well MONITORED ( i can help ) and that spirituality and his music is again the main focus with no vulgarity and negativity allowed. I, myself was getting negative with certain people because they were so nasty, AND the subject matters were infantile 2 say the least!!! I am not a negative person and they forced me to be. Now, there were about a handful of members who were a joy 2 speak with. They slowly left as I did! I wont mention names as then I'd need 2 mention the trouble makers. This is not important. confused I have to say prince always makes me proud. I hate people who diss him because hes the best in what he does & how he gives to his fans! IMHO! This reminds me of the cellys in minne where he opened his studio to his fans to navigate, and they stole his teas and tapes etc. so he needed 2 close that up as well. Prince likes to mingle among the fans, but I think he got tired of it and moved to cali! THANX CROOKS! mad sad Now his true loyal people have 2 suffer! But he did right. I hope he keeps his prices UP too. Hes worth it, and it will weed out the riff raff! Hes not a GREEDY man and that pic someone posted with all the bills saying mani wants more money is out of line, not funny and not an admirerer! GOOD LUCK 2 U PRINCE ALWAYS! U GOT STYLE!



Can I ask why you assume that the people who were those negative forces that you talked about were poor or unable to afford a higher membership price? People with $$ can be just as negative and sometimes worse. I wasn't a NPGMC member very long, but my chat experiences were OK. There was some negativity but I didn't pick up that "thug-vampire-mind control" vibe you were going on about. You seem pretty tightly wound. Perhaps you should relax a bit. chill pill couch






Well actually Prince himself (or someone with the authority 2 speak on Prince's behalf) made that assumption, when they blamed tha sickness that was going on in tha club with tha fact that it "only" cost 25.00!! Meaning, any type or class of people can come up with 25.00, so that's tha reason why it's this way,i mean hell,I know a little rocket science.
may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go...
Reply #325 posted 07/22/06 12:05pm

Terilicious

VenusDeMilo9999 said:

Terilicious said:




Can I ask why you assume that the people who were those negative forces that you talked about were poor or unable to afford a higher membership price? People with $$ can be just as negative and sometimes worse. I wasn't a NPGMC member very long, but my chat experiences were OK. There was some negativity but I didn't pick up that "thug-vampire-mind control" vibe you were going on about. You seem pretty tightly wound. Perhaps you should relax a bit. chill pill couch






Well actually Prince himself (or someone with the authority 2 speak on Prince's behalf) made that assumption, when they blamed tha sickness that was going on in tha club with tha fact that it "only" cost 25.00!! Meaning, any type or class of people can come up with 25.00, so that's tha reason why it's this way,i mean hell,I know a little rocket science.



uhhm...okay. Congratulations on being kinda smart, I guess.geek
Not being a bitch, REALLY, but why do you seem like you're responding to something that I said to or about you? I'm not sure what your last comment has to do with me and my question to Grandebelle.

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I AM BEATLOAF
www.myspace.com/teriteriboberi
www.stickam.com/profile/Beatloaf
www.myspace.com/americasfunnyman
www.stephenking.com
www.tomgreen.com

I'm my own favorite orger and that trumps any elitist list you guys can come up with.
Reply #326 posted 07/22/06 12:09pm

Terilicious

grandebelle said:

Terilicious said:




Can I ask why you assume that the people who were those negative forces that you talked about were poor or unable to afford a higher membership price? People with $$ can be just as negative and sometimes worse. I wasn't a NPGMC member very long, but my chat experiences were OK. There was some negativity but I didn't pick up that "thug-vampire-mind control" vibe you were going on about. You seem pretty tightly wound. Perhaps you should relax a bit. chill pill couch

First off, I need to stand corrected! The post i am referring 2 is not composed by honeymoonxpress. It was another orger. Not sure who. Sorry. lol 2nd...2 reply to ur very intelligent post....terilicious... Its an opinion I agreed to with the post composer! NOT MY IDEA! I feel people can be asses no matter what they earn, biggrin However these people were either VERY rich or VERY poor as all they had 2 do EVERY DAY 24/7 is talk shit. AND THAT wasnt about prince. I was told by a select few, how much they enjoyed coming in the chat when I was there because I, and a few others were there 4 the right reasons and were great 2 talk 2. I felt the same. A FEW! Thats why I kept going back. NOT 4 the rude ones! MY experiences & OTHERS were not any where near good with the open chat. The same retards always were there making prince look very bad.They DEFINATELY used MIND CONTROL teqniques as I have studied this thoroughly & know what I see. I met people so mixed up and ill from this torture i cried. I cried 4 myself 2, bcuz I was getting wrapped up in it all! Prince saw it 2...He came in less & less & only spoke to people 4 a bit. Maybe why u say I'm wound is I AM! Maybe YOU are one who pretended to be prince like many did 2 elude ppl 4 a joke. The strong ones, like myself waded through the surf but some werent so fortunate. This upsets me. It was cruel. God will deal with those. And I know how to relax...stay away from these manipulaters. Getting easier 2 spot 2! smile peace 2 all.



I'll take your word about the mind control issue. I never experienced it...or maybe I did and just didn't know it. I never pretended to be Prince, that's just stupid. My guess is somebody musta fooled you into believing that they were P and played with your head pretty good. That sucks. Like I said, I wasn't there long but I did meet some very sweet people. Sorry your experience sucked. You really should take my advice though and chill. Stress is bad on the body and soul.
I AM BEATLOAF
www.myspace.com/teriteriboberi
www.stickam.com/profile/Beatloaf
www.myspace.com/americasfunnyman
www.stephenking.com
www.tomgreen.com

I'm my own favorite orger and that trumps any elitist list you guys can come up with.
Reply #327 posted 07/22/06 8:15pm

RtPunkyGirl14

nesci said:

Terilicious said:




Can I ask why you assume that the people who were those negative forces that you talked about were poor or unable to afford a higher membership price? People with $$ can be just as negative and sometimes worse. I wasn't a NPGMC member very long, but my chat experiences were OK. There was some negativity but I didn't pick up that "thug-vampire-mind control" vibe you were going on about. You seem pretty tightly wound. Perhaps you should relax a bit. chill pill couch


Nesi , Syn & Kat-I miss kickin it back with you guys in Chat!
Reply #328 posted 07/22/06 9:03pm

robertbullocks

sacredwarrior said:

oh and...

Priana,

I have to say you are probably the most deeply insecure, cruel, vindictive, shallow, hateful bully I have ever had the displeasure of knowing.

Sadly you managed to infect me with your illness and toxified my life for 3 years. Your words to me and treatment of me made me literally vomit on 3 different occasions.

On the other hand, knowing you, taught me all about who I'm not. Popularity is not the same as Friendship never was never will be. And one day I hope you realise this for your own sake, so that you might find some inner peace.

Thank you kindly for such harsh lessons in self-respect.
I wish you Heaven and hope one day you will open your heart and mind up enough to actually find it.

Hope you enjoyed meeting Prince,
but you got pawned.

So sad the games people play, and frightful to think they still playin em despite how much pain they cause.

Wishin you all the best.
heart



You finally came to this conclusion only AFTER 3 years of kissing her ass? lol
You blame everybody for you're dilusional, confusional character! rolleyes lol
Reply #329 posted 07/23/06 1:51am

VenusDeMilo9999

Terilicious said:

VenusDeMilo9999 said:







Well actually Prince himself (or someone with the authority 2 speak on Prince's behalf) made that assumption, when they blamed tha sickness that was going on in tha club with tha fact that it "only" cost 25.00!! Meaning, any type or class of people can come up with 25.00, so that's tha reason why it's this way,i mean hell,I know a little rocket science.



uhhm...okay. Congratulations on being kinda smart, I guess.geek
Not being a bitch, REALLY, but why do you seem like you're responding to something that I said to or about you? I'm not sure what your last comment has to do with me and my question to Grandebelle.

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I was letting u know that Grandebelle wasnt tha only one that assumed tha negativity was due to people from a "lower class" which is generally associated with being poor, NPGMC felt that way as well, which is tha reason why Prince asked 4 100.00$ 2 join his club in tha first place, I didnt get it then, but trust me,I get it now. I think it was generous and kind of Him 2 at least try tha 25.00 expirence, 2 see if his assumptions was correct about tha type of people a lower price would attract. And yess!! he is worth it and more, asking for little more only attracts people that dont respect him or anything. If u pay really good for something, u will think twice b4 u tear it up, my grand mother been told me that!
may meekness, and peace follow u where ever u may go...
Reply #330 posted 07/23/06 12:23pm

sylvianice

now i wonder if prince will ever have another musicclub like mpg.a real prince website where he can read our letters and anwer them god bless peace love. biggrin
Reply #331 posted 08/06/06 1:10pm

TANKAP

i was trying to play my music that i have downloaded from NPGMC, (which equals 79 files - video and music) and i cant play them because i have to renew my lisense. How am i suppossed to get my music played, or if worst comes to worst my money back???

Anybody know about that, we could be losing some money (Im at over $100 in music i cant play)
Reply #332 posted 08/12/06 6:04am

sacredwarrior

TANKAP said:

i was trying to play my music that i have downloaded from NPGMC, (which equals 79 files - video and music) and i cant play them because i have to renew my lisense. How am i suppossed to get my music played, or if worst comes to worst my money back???

Anybody know about that, we could be losing some money (Im at over $100 in music i cant play)



let that b a lesson 2 never download licensed music u have to pay 4

its a primitive system.

sorry u got stiffed, but i dont hear them caring. x
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
Reply #333 posted 08/18/06 5:21pm

rhomea

for those who seem to have dropped the big war about a little bit o nuthin...

http://www.prince.org/msg/13/199135?pg=1
Frank Zappa was the greatest American composer of the last 50 years, the greatest electric guitarist to have ever played that instrument, and his music will be performed live long after Purple Rain will have been forgotten.
Reply #334 posted 08/19/06 9:26pm

amateur

If you want to dig deeper into the Prince or NPG experience, log onto www.npgmusicclub.com for exclusive 3121 swag and all the late-breaking news from the Purple One himself


[That link don't go nowhere no more. The site is shut down - luv4u]
young, dumb, and no fun..
most of my threads are missing
Reply #335 posted 08/29/06 6:31pm

Synergy

First off, I have 2 address that I did not abondon my feelings on this issue nor the notion of doing something 2 put Nature's schedule on tilt by us bothering the hell out of them with petitions and inquiries...

I did say it would b dependent on the reply I recieved from Prince's legal counsel - which didn't come, so we were left not knowing if this could bring further problems for Prince.

In the meantime, the news of the divorce broke - now that paints an entirely different hue 2 the whole situation, one that is far more complex and stank, if U ask me - especially given that Mani has been coresponding with CJ as a pen-pal and feeding her mailbox with little tidbits on the negative about Prince. It would not surprise me, given Mani's legal education, if she herself contacted Nature's with one of her "Fed-Ex Pen Pal Packages".

Mani has and will probably continue 2 do anything she can until she recieves the monetary settlement that she feels she is due her despite the fact that there was a pre-nup. So, yeah, I find it 2 b no coincidence that this all came down at the same time.

With that, I just decided that it was better 2 see where the chips fall and support Prince in whatever he decides. I think he has enough stress right now.

It was not a frivolous call 2 arms, given all the research that I put into this and what we could do as fans... it also wasn't forgotten or abondoned out of loss of steam or motivation of those of us that preceeded to try 2 do something... rather it was put on the back burner considering the events and information that has come 2 light since the day I created this post. End of story.
Angels, love and light,
Synergy

It Snowed April 21st, 2016 and My heart is irrevocably broken. I love you and miss you, Prince. Thank you for giving me so much. 🌹 RIP 💜
Reply #336 posted 09/03/06 1:35pm

Diosuni

Synergy said:

First off, I have 2 address that I did not abondon my feelings on this issue nor the notion of doing something 2 put Nature's schedule on tilt by us bothering the hell out of them with petitions and inquiries...

I did say it would b dependent on the reply I recieved from Prince's legal counsel - which didn't come, so we were left not knowing if this could bring further problems for Prince.

In the meantime, the news of the divorce broke - now that paints an entirely different hue 2 the whole situation, one that is far more complex and stank, if U ask me - especially given that Mani has been coresponding with CJ as a pen-pal and feeding her mailbox with little tidbits on the negative about Prince. It would not surprise me, given Mani's legal education, if she herself contacted Nature's with one of her "Fed-Ex Pen Pal Packages".

Mani has and will probably continue 2 do anything she can until she recieves the monetary settlement that she feels she is due her despite the fact that there was a pre-nup. So, yeah, I find it 2 b no coincidence that this all came down at the same time.

With that, I just decided that it was better 2 see where the chips fall and support Prince in whatever he decides. I think he has enough stress right now.

It was not a frivolous call 2 arms, given all the research that I put into this and what we could do as fans... it also wasn't forgotten or abondoned out of loss of steam or motivation of those of us that preceeded to try 2 do something... rather it was put on the back burner considering the events and information that has come 2 light since the day I created this post. End of story.



Let the man live his life!!!! I wish him well and hope he is writting, tha's what it's all about to you, us them!

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