the past couple of days, people here have been talking about the NPGMC's criptic messages of "Something Big Comming".

I have to assume from most of what I have read from you people that you are not a bunch of sheep. You are inteligent, well most are, and you know all about what HYPE is.

this makes me ponder to what hopes Prince's Court would get from they over hyping of these little cd's and projects. I have to assume that the hype isn't for the ORG but for the MusicClub dwelers.

Comments?

It is annoying, all the hyping. I would like hype following a release, that confirms something is good, not merely promises.

the best releases were those that simply appeared without much ado

stuff like "Xpectation", altho trumped months before as Xenophobia

it was a cool surprise to find it on the website on jan 1st.


to this day though, i still don't know what the "something big" is

supposed to be that was coming in the second year of the club.


was it the ONA tour or the Rainbow Children album???

MickG said:

I see SHEEP!

I was thinking about Mtv and the old days when I was a kid. Even today Record companies bullshit and hype the youth into "This is Cool" because children for the most part need be sold that way.

I am a 35 year old man. If I see packaging with hype I turn and walk away because I have learned the diffrence between shit and shinenola. This leaves me with the question as to who the albume is targeted at? Or, at least the mentality of those that the albume is being targeted at.

MickG said:

first and last album i bought 100% for hype was MJ's "HisStory" double cd.
i got home and realised i totally did not want that album and was tricked
into buying it because of the media hype.

since that day, i'm aware of the manipulation of media. you cannot shield
yourself from it completely as it is bound to influence you because of it
being omnipresent these days. but you can chose to pierce through it much
as possible.

the npgmc's hyping tho, is different from other product hypes. others are
usually hyping a product that is available. the npgmc hypes products that
are not and likely never will be available.

IstenSzek said:

Never thought of it that way before.

I guess they like to keep the pan hot, so the eggs don't stick or run off.

Not that I have to justiphy the move. I kinda ment this to be a thread more about Hype then NPGMC, and that's is why I put it in the off topic. It goes just as well here.

I dont understand why he even needs to "hype" anything.

He's not going to garner any new fans from
"Musicology". And the rest will want what he releases regardless.

What does Prince get out of all this pre-something hype? Well for a start the hype has got YOU interested.

Job done.

origmnd said:

Exactly, so what is the point of it? Does his camp need to hype his fans or do they get a strange sense of power from doing so? Is price so out of touch with people that he thinks this is the way things needs be done?

metalorange said:

The Hype doesn't get me intrested. More then not it just pisses me off when they don't follow through. If I were told "Prince just let out a new album" I would check it out. The saying Shit or get off the pot comes to mind.

MickG said:

He wont let go of the traditional media
hype. Still trying to combine the best of both worlds.

He must realize that he doesnt need
anymore followers.

Prince has always been a salesman. Everything is wanting for approval in Princeville. That's why the man did so many photo shoots. "Do you love me, still? I need to know every minute of the day" That's why he was with Beyonce. "See, me urban audience? I am with Beyonce and even though this medley is boring as shit please still care about me or check out what I do." It baffles me still why people still can't see why he does promotion like this. He does "SALES" on his own terms.


So I expect no different from Prince with December 13th.
SEE FOR YOU to Musicology for reference of Prince being a salesman.
That's 78 to 2005

metalorange said:

u hit it on the nail! ,

IstenSzek said:

The something BIG the 2nd year was the relaunch of the website.

MickG said:

yeah, i got a comment: post this over at the club, see how far it goes.

At this point i love prince for prince
with or without hype.
There could never be enough prince hype

yea, his new load needs to be in the media more because folks, i'm tired of when doves cry on the local radio!!! At this institute i went to for open day, they had musicolgy album playing out loud on huge speakers, everyone was dancing to it and all on a bright and sunny day ...and i was so glad it was prince they were playing, the new prince.

I trust the man, he's just always way before his time. he's not a bull-shit artist, in your face celeb, selling you something you think you like but you don' really because he's always original. These day everyone else is following the wrong leader and being sheepish because their leaders are sheepish.
What i get from prince i don't get anywhere else.
He's actually all about the core of the business, never superficial. He fulfils all of my expectations, whether high or low, unlike with many others outther who make me feel lost.

either you're with him or you're wrong
[Edited 11/29/05 16:48pm]

chunky said:

you must be new to the Prince game sorry to bust ya bubble but the cat is a walking contradiction he's admitted it many times,everything hes done is basically lifted from somewhere else. dont believe me?.....

TheRealFiness said:

maybe he's lifted stuff, maybe he's contradictory, but for me as somebody who's new to music,(i'm no music expert or buff) he's opened my ears, my heart to all kinds of music genre, that is why i say he's original..like if it wasn't for prince i would have never dug metal music.
[Edited 11/30/05 19:26pm]

yet another argument... some peeps here have said npg the label isn't such a good one while yves saint laurent works his letters to make a fortune. npg works for me.
[Edited 11/30/05 20:01pm]

chunky said:

I always liked this tagline: 'Imitate, Assimilate, Innovate'. Prince lifting bits and pieces is no bad thing. Like a chef using existing ingredients and techniques to come up with a new recipe. Practically everyone in music does it.

As for being contradictory, we are all contradictory one way or another, it's just that Prince's come under extreme examination whereas our own don't.

No we're not.

The NPGMC said nothing about 'something big happening'.

Its been indicated something may be released or announced on December 13th.

All the rest is pure speculation.

, prince is all about image with musicology, he's very humanitarian...or so he seems. he has the voice to die for. man i love coma pimp and circumstance,
[Edited 12/12/05 18:24pm]

DexMSR said:

you see sheep everywhere you go. maybe you should get your eyes checked?

actually, they must come in handy on nights you can't sleep; gives you something to count.

Prediction: "something big is coming" bulldozer to Paisley..12/13

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

yeah I am banned over there at the npg club.

IstenSzek said:

it was the entirely new site.

Almost everything in our culture is hyped. That which isn’t hyped merely lacks the means to do so. Even a brightly colored playbill stuck to a telephone pole for a super duper underground band is hype.

Almost all of Prince’s records have been hyped to one degree or another, from the weakest, most unessential material to the masterpieces. Why not recognize this pattern and stop treating hype each time as if it meant Prince had just reinvented music as we know it?

If you’re expecting anyone who is excited about something they’ve just created to release it in secret or to tell you that it’s probably not very good, but some might like it, you’ll be waiting a mighty long time.

If you don’t like hype, tune it out or simply have fun with it; then wait for something to appear in a record store. When it does, you can preview it as much as you want before you decide if it’s something worth your hard-earned cash. It’s that simple. There’s nothing to get angry about. No one can force you to buy something, at least not without a weapon held to your body.

You are in complete control of your own expectations; that is, if you wish to be. Hype only controls those who allow it to.

The person who rejects offerings on the mere basis that they were hyped too much is no less a victim of hype than the person who laps it up and conjures cinematic dreams of “Walk the Line” or “Ray” just because someone mentioned that Prince is “filming” an autobiographical video.

And what is the fun of being part of an independent site if we only sit around and wait for official word to come down from on high?