Please comment in this thread thread I started at NPGMC if you think Prince should make this charity track available in a format that Mac users can buy and use

http://www.npgmusicclub.c...p?t=119540

for 77/99 cents going to charity, i'd get the single anyway and ask a friend to help you burn it. i know this isn't the ideal solution, but until your advocacy leads to results, at least you can give a bit of pocket change to a worthy cause and have a song file set aside for when you can figure out how to get it to disc. not arguing your suggestion - just sharing a thought.

Anxiety said:

that's an awful lot of work to donate 77 cents to charity. The club should make it easy to make the donation. What they should do is both provide it in formats anyone can use and allow the person buying the track specify how much they want to donate - make it easy to make the donation and make it easy to donate more than 77 cents.

Also, it wouldn't hurt for them to realize they can generate significant incremental revenue on their other downloads by supporting mac users.

Anxiety said:

that's an awful lot of work to donate 77 cents to charity. The club should make it easy to make the donation. What they should do is both provide it in formats anyone can use and allow the person buying the track specify how much they want to donate - make it easy to make the donation and make it easy to donate more than 77 cents.

Also, it wouldn't hurt for them to realize they can generate significant incremental revenue on their other downloads by supporting mac users.

instead of telling prince 2 support mac users, tell mac 2 support other ppl being able 2 offer encrypted audio files. the lack of support 4 encrypted audio files by mac is the reason y they can't support mac as they can't get a license 2 do so as mac want 2 sell everything themselves via itunes. and y should they get a cut of the music when they wanna tie things up like that?

alandail said:

it wasn't a lot of work for me to donate 77 silly little cents to charity. i just clicked a few buttons and clacked on my keyboard for a couple seconds. it takes more effort for me to walk down the street and buy a box of cereal.

though at least i have the luxury of buying cereal and prince downloads...which makes donating 77 silly little cents all the easier to do. get it? i think if you bought the single and made the donation, there'd be a lot of us who would be happy to help you out and mail you a CD-R of the song. i know - and agree - with your position about mac downloads - i just think you should sit this round out and appreciate the bigger picture.

alandail said:

instead of telling prince 2 support mac users, tell mac 2 support other ppl being able 2 offer encrypted audio files. the lack of support 4 encrypted audio files by mac is the reason y they can't support mac as they can't get a license 2 do so as mac want 2 sell everything themselves via itunes. and y should they get a cut of the music when they wanna tie things up like that?

macs downfall has always been thier lack of wanting 2 license products, thus they have less than 5% of the pc marketplace

4tunately apple have finally seen some sense and r making the move 2 intel chipsets, and the new mac OS beta can now run on pcs faster than it can on any currently available mac. they still dont want 2 license the software 4 use on pcs, so they just loose out sales 2 any1 who wants 2 run it on a pc as they have 2 use an illegitimate version

again, apple could potentially sell more hardware if u can run windows on it, there r plenty ppl who like the look of apple products but dont buy it cuz its its not compatible with the office or friends software etc. tech savvy ppl wont buy the hardware as its less upgradable, and the initial hardware is way more xpensive, and upgrades r overpriced, plus after the initial few months, the cool looking hardware starts looking very dated

again with the ipod, the problem is the software and lack of flexibility compared 2 some of the better players who allow u 2 plug and play and drag and drop files 2 and from the player with no restriction, showing up as an additional drive on ure pc by plugging it in with usb, making it particularly easy 2 manage larger amounts of files. also, pound 4 pound or dollar 4 dollar u can get a much better deal buying other than apple, so with the same money u can get much more storage, plus u can play protected WMA files such as the npgmc material, and of course on ure pc u can still concert apple files 2 play

so y pay apple more money 4 less, with less flexibility, and looks that date? if it's the OS u like, u can now run it on a pc if u really want 2, altho when mac and windows start 2 compete on the same hardware it'll b interesting 2 c how each OS fares

apple might dominate the music sales now, but as they claim not 2 b making much profit, it seems the 1 eyed man is king of the valley of the blind

what u do say about the ackwardness of the wma files is right tho, its a fucking pain in the arse dealing with them. as soon as i've burned em 2 cd i rip em straight 2 wav 2 edit and compile and convert 2 mp3 4 easy listening

macs downfall has always been thier lack of wanting 2 license products, thus they have less than 5% of the pc marketplace

Doozer said:

it is a good argument if u put it 2 mac vs apple rather than mac vs prince, which the statement doesn't relate 2

how do u xplain macs tiny market share compared 2 pc's?

Doozer said:

it is a good argument if u put it 2 mac vs apple rather than mac vs prince, which the statement doesn't relate 2

how do u xplain macs tiny market share compared 2 pc's?

the problem with apple is they want 2 keep everything 2 themselves, thier own hardware and software, and by doing so it affects the sales of thier computers. in the case of prince, u cant legally download and play the club music on a mac due 2 thier policy

while ure at it, y can't they allow pc users 2 b able 2 legally purchase and install the new intel based mac OS if it's supposed 2 b superior 2 windows?

prince makes the majority of his music available 2 any1, only a small amount of his music is available xclusively thru the club. apple on the other hand won't let any1 else run software on thier hardware, or run the OS on other hardware

if windows, linux, and other OS can run fine on various hardware, y can't mac OS?

But I am looking at the bigger picture - making the song easier to buy will generate more revenue for the relief effort.

i didn't say the music was xclusive 2 club members did i?

prince is running a music club, offering xclusive music 2 his fans. the problem is that there is no secure option available 4 him 2 sell his music direct on the mac platform as apple chooses not 2 license its software 4 use by any1 else. putting it on itunes reduces his income 4 the music, and reduces the xclusivity of the material 2 club members

it seems like u want 2 igore the facts and pick holes in what i say. let me clarify, when i said they dont want other ppl 2 run software on thier hardware, i was meaning operating systems, not other software

as u now clarify, perhaps the real issue is perhaps that windows r stopping mac users, perhaps purposely, in fact i think more thank likely on purpose, from using drm files on macs. but the issue isnt really princes fault or problem

alandail said:

i didn't say the music was xclusive 2 club members did i? it's xclusive 2 the club, as the music is prince's way of getting ppl 2 go 2 his own site, and show a member benefit by offering downloads at a reduced rate. he is trying 2 show that he has stuff that no1 else has, so if u want it, get it direct from him. but that wouldnt b the case if he put it on itunes, it would go against the point of the club, 2 offer xclusive material, whether 2 members or not

i also didn't suggest 4 the slightest that apple help any1 open an online store, so i don't know how u came up with that idea. i was talking about apple licensing thier codecs, like many other ppl do, so that ppl can legally put protected apple format music files 4 sale direct on thier site. it's nothing at all like walmart helping kmart is it? apple want 2 keep everything 2 themselves, which in some ways benefits them, but prior 2 the ipod its been the reason they lag badly behind over ppl sales wise regarding hardware and software. i'm suggesting they opening things up a bit, they r already heading in that direction, going a little further is probably inevitable, and a good idea as far as i'm concerned. i'd b interested perhaps in running windows on a nice new looking mac mini underneath a 50" plasma in my living room, or running mac OS on 1 of my pcs in the other room. by starting off cheap and simple and running the mac OS on a machine i already own, i might b persuaded 2 use it a little more, but right now i don't c y i should pay more money 2 have less flexibility, when everything works hunky dory at the moment. i don't get bother from viruses or blue screens of death, or those things of the past, and i have a fairly complex personalised system at home. i do remember using a so called simple mac os system and having endless hassle, and i remember every1 in that office constantly swearing and wishing they had a pc so they could open the documents that all their windows running contacts outside the organisation had. and if i had a £1 4 everytime 1 of them couldnt get a disc ejected out the system, i'd b a rich man