From NPGMC member "Bexbyo," this rant can be accessed at www.npgmc.com for a lifetime membership donation of $25:



Personally, I think the whole Cinnamon Girl video thing is a bit of a stretch, although obviously it's a sensitive issue to Bexbyo, and I think we've all seen the sensitive ways the goons over at the club operate.

she still gets emails....jammy cow!!!! They stopped sending me stuff many many months ago....last email I got was on 18/05/2004

although she does seem a little crazy!!!!!

i sort of agree with him/her. maybe he/she went a little overboard with the cinnamon girl video...maybe not...but the point is strong. i don't have much respect for prince (as a person) because he is so hypocritical. i pretty much lost what little respect i had for him back when he charged australians 1000 dollars to shake his hand. that's just icky...regardless of the fact that people were silly enough to pay it.

Everybody's hypocritical, Sass. It not exclusive to the Purple One. As far as the post was concerned, the person is obviously either a hit and run poster who will never post again or someone having fun with the clubmembers to see what our reactions would be. Hope they enjoyes it because I thought it was truly fucked up.

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

because everyone's hypocritical is not an excuse for hypocrisy. i'm always contradicting myself but simply because i'm always doing it doesn't make it ok.

SassyBritches said:

Oh, but I'm not excusing it. It's not cool when anyone does it. It's actually pretty irritating.

I havent seen teh video so Im not sure of how the girl is used...but could it be to do with the fact that a genuine iraq orphan or whatever the crazy lady was calling for might not be what is needed - maybe he needed a good actress,maybe he had a vision in mind, or of course maybe the song is about somebody who isnt a terrorist or from Iraq....but everyone assumes that,cuz of her colour,she is.

In which case the crazy lady is as guilty of pigeonholing as the song she is protesting about accuses peopel of being.

I do think the poster went a little overboard but that's what the NPGMC does to normal, sane people. It can be a very frustrating place to be which is why I spend so little time there. I just check in occasionaly hoping that there will be some new music there. Sadly, there rarely is anything new. Funny thing to expect from a music club, eh?

sallysassalot said:

perhaps you shouldn't have put so much weight on his words....just a thought...
1000 bucks just to shake his hand? I thought that was for a pre-concert meet and greet (with food and drink even) and a seat ON the stage? no? not bad (if true) considering lots of folx paid over 300 bucks just for a seat at a madonnna show. ahhh shit...if I'da had the cash...I'da paid it.
LOL

Shorty said:

yeah, well, i don't put any weight on prince's words...and that's a shame. it would be a shame about anyone. there is a higher level of respect to be had for someone who makes statements and stays true to them. how can someone get up and proclaim to know how god wants to be worshipped and then perpetuate the idolatry of himself? too sketchy for me.

as for the example of madonna...well, honestly, she never made any public statements regarding how you need to love god. sure, she may talk about kabballah and try to get people interested in it, but she has never knocked the industry and then worked with clear channel. she has never spoken out against idolatry and then charged people 1000 bucks to meet her.

its all good. if you have the money and want to spend it on shaking another man's hand, i say great for you. i just happen to think that 1000 bucks would do much more good at the hands of some charity as opposed to, literally, at the hands of a rock star.

SassyBritches said:

It appears to me that you do indeed put a lot of weight on prince's words...or else why would you be upset when he doesn't "stay true to them" ?
Just because he knows how god wants to be worshiped....doesn't mean he doesn't also know that people will idolize him anyway. And unfortunately...there is "Prince" the man AND "Prince" in industry...if he had to take every statement to the fullest extent...we wouldn't be getting anymore music, tours, photos, website updates,....nadda! So I for one am glad he doesn't take everything he's ever said to it's truest form.
as for Madonna...I can not verify on what public statements she has or hasn't made...perhaps she made statements and then contradicted her self ...I mean...haven't we all done that at some point? I know I'm glad that no one is hanging on my every word! goodness, I will admit I've changed my mind about things I used to feel strongly about...or have made comments in the past that are in contradiction to currernt actions...that is human...no? Prince seems to get into something all gung-ho only to then back off or ease up a lil after awhile...I guess I just never saw that as a bad thing.....
As for the 1000 bucks....I have no idea what Prince did with that extra cash...for all we know it may have gone to charity....wouldn't that be a hoot to find out.
btw, I don't have that kind of money...I was just saying that if I did...I would.

Shorty said:

i suppose we could go back and forth all day as to whether or not i take prince's words with a grain of salt or with the weight of the world. trust me, i don't hang on the words of celebrities...or anyone else, for that matter. i still love his music, i'll still see his shows...but i haven't paid much attention to anything he's said since that whole australia thing. sorry, it just turned me off.

SassyBritches said:

I suppose we could. Glad you still love the music, that's all that really matters anyway right?
no need to be sorry bout anything.

Shorty said:

I heard the moeny he got from the folks who paid $1k to meet him went to charity anyway

The club to me is feeling a lot less like a music club and more of a ‘cult’. This cult has gradually taken to childish abuse resulting in the out- casting of members who have the courage and maturity to ask questions. This behaviour by some of the Members at the NPG Music club has not been addressed but seemingly encouraged by the moderators leaving the club to have a very single minded and insular feel to it. It seems that most of problem is stemming from the use of religion within the site. Perhaps this because members feel that if they show that they are dedicated to God and or the Jehovah Witness religion this will somehow bring them closer to Prince (whom they seem to worship more). After hearing of the threat of suing by Prince and his lawyers I decided to look in the Jehovah Witness religion to find exactly what values and morals it holds.
This is what I found by going through a few official J.W web sites.

On the subject of suing and of the banning of members for their opinions.

Jehovah's Witnesses are found at all levels of society, and they do not physically separate themselves from those who do not share their beliefs. They live, work, and go to school with people of different religious beliefs, and they enjoy cordial relationships with them. Jehovah's Witnesses follow Jesus' example of being "no part of the world" by avoiding the unchristian prejudices and controversies that divide mankind today. Although not ascetics, they avoid being excessive in the pursuit of wealth, pleasure, or prominence.—John 17:15, 16; 1 John 2:15, 16.

In regards to the worship of Prince and the selling of posters, photo books etc.

1 Corinthians 10:1-33

14 Therefore, my beloved ones, flee from idolatry. 15 I speak as to men with discernment; judge for yourselves what I say. 16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of the Christ? The loaf which we break, is it not a sharing in the body of the Christ? 17 Because there is one loaf, we, although many, are one body, for we are all partaking of that one loaf.

In regards to the Cinnamon girl video

Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to take part in any political activities of the earth. Their hope remains that the Kingdom of God will one day do away with all other governments earth wide and then begin to rule the entire earth. They do not participate in any wars of mankind, as they believe in the Bible commands of "loving your neighbor as yourself" and the commands of "not to kill your fellow man."


I am not against any religion.I feel questions need to be asked.

EmilyMai said:

I honestly don't see what you posted above has to do with anything. How long have you been a member of NPGMC? Also, there is only one forum on the club where religion is discussed at length and please don't act like nobody acts childish on any other site.

theblueangel said:

I agree they banned my accounts as well,I did not even curse in my threads, there is a doubble standard going on over there, it is disgusting!!

diabolicuss said:

Dude, please. You know damn well why you got banned from the club.

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

What?!?! You tryin' to say people act childish here?????

You better take that back, you big poop-head!!!!!