i hope this aftershow at the HOB is not a trend that prince starts. no, i don't mean i hope he doesn't do any aftershows...c'mon, are you kidding! i just hope his style changes. it seems to me that announcing an aftershow days before the concert even happens lessens the "real" experience of an aftershow.

with previous tours, an aftershow depended on p's mood. was he digging the crowd? was he having a great time? maybe he just loved that city. either way, the fans would wait with baited breath for any word of a 2nd, late nite gig. then he would announce the aftershow in some impromptu gig kinda way and everyone would rush across town to get there. would you get in? what would the vibe be like? all that good stuff.

the way this one is working out, man, all the surprise is gone. all the exclusivity is gone. the excitement is gone. not the excitement of a prince show...that's still there, of course. but, what if prince gets off stage in la and just doesn't feel like doing an aftershow? what if he didn't dig the crowd that night? what if he just remained the gemini he is and changes his mind? what then...a refund? a half enthused performance?

but more importantly, isn't it just a little more exciting knowing that he's doing the aftershow because he dug YOU, the audience. because he's in a great moods. because he just doesn't wanna stop. with things set up like this new aftershow coming up, it looks like he just wants to do it for the money. i'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. hey, we all wanna get paid. i just think the feeling was more rewarding the other way.

who knows, maybe this is just a one off thing and he won't continue announcing the shows like this. i hope that is the case.

its funny - but when i saw the tix comin up for sale --- i thought the same thing !!!



but --- --- just to play a lil devils advocate - i have to say .... i am 39 yrs old now ---- and i always always wanted to go and see an aftershow !!! ... And i got to - in NYC!!(after the hall of fame show !!! )As an older male with responsibilities(kids, work, etc) - i probably would never have gotten to go if he had done his "spur of the moment" usual aftershow format !

MisterMan38 said:

thats very true...my friend and i were saying the same thing...but, that spontaneity is what MAKES an aftershow so cool to get into. i mean, hell, anybody can just buy a ticket.

I personally don't think of it as a true aftershow if it's announced in advance and the tickets are as much as a regular show.

I think that the reason that he gives a little more notice now is so the club members will have first shot at the tickets. I'm very cool with the fact that he looks after the club members first.

I know exactly what u mean, sassy....we've all read about those classic impromptu aftershows of the 80s and early 90s...Prince was in the mood back in those days....and the it came through in the performances.

Bull said:

and i think that's nice for members...which i am...but it just won't have the feeling of a true aftershow. the hoping, the rushing, the excitement of not knowing if you'll get in...it's all missing. the blue symbol passes that you get when they let you in...knowing that most people won't get in...the "aftershow-ness" of it all is not here. i'm not knocking the performance he'll do or anything like that.

i'm just saying that small club could never be planned.

Bull said:

,,Hmm,, I thought after show partys were announced at the concert?


Im fairly new,,so whats the deal?

sonic said:

in past circumstances, that was the deal. in la, however, prince announced that there will be an aftershow for the concerts on 3 june and 5 june. considering that this was announce a day or so ago, it doesn't seem so much like an aftershow as a second concert.

Hmm,,cool!

Do I have to go to the NPG site to find out if there will be an after show?,

Oh & also,,when you go,,do they ask for a special I.D. at the door?,,do members have a special serial # or something?

Sonic, You are correct when you say that he use to announce the afterparty the night of the concert and that is exactly my point. If he were to do that now, what chance would the members have to get the tickets for the aftershow first? They wouldn't, It would be first come first serve. Plus all of us hardcore members are older now, and I don't know about you but If I leave the concert and run all the way over to a aftershow and wait in line for who knows how long, I wouldn't be a happy man if I didn't get in. We have many more other things to worry about now. I'm older and I have a business to run. I think that its great that he realizes that us hardcore fans need alittle more time to get our situations straight before going to a show. I hope that I got my point across.

Bull said:

that's just it. aftershows shouldn't be about members and clubs and convenience. they were about spontanteity. the rushing and waiting you speak of so negatively was half of what made an aftershow so exciting.

it cuts down on the chaos to do it the way he's going about it in LA, but it also cuts down on the excitement. seeing as how he's doing a five night stand in chicago, i'm at a point now where i don't care how he announces it...i just wanna see my first-ever aftershow!

SassyBritches said:

I remember the thrill of thinking OMG I got in! And then wondering what will he do

The way he did the ONA shows was beyond great...your a club member, you get a soundcheck, great seats and a wristband for an aftershow where you waltz by all the jump on bandwagon punks and get in for free while they have to pay through the nose...got totally spoiled when he came downunder by the club

SassyBritches said:

I dunno - I've been to a spur of the moment aftershow where his mood seemed FUNKY, and not in a good way He kept everyone waiting at least 2 hours (kinda normal for him), played 2 songs, barely sang & left I just think it's a coin toss either way in terms of whether or not he's diggin' the crowd - that could all change on the ride to & from the hotel Considering the complete lack of aftershows in the Bay Area since 2001, I'm happy to get an aftershow under ANY circumstances



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Sassy, I hear what you are saying but I totally disagree. The reason that Prince origionally started doing the aftershows was because of the diehard fans.He wanted the place to be filled with people that dug the music, and understood the music. Not someone who went just to say that they went. Princes diehard fans will always be first to him. When this tour is over and he makes another small totally musical, or jazz album, who do you think is going to be there digging it? The diehards. The aftershows have become so cool because Prince and the diehards have made them so cool. Its like our own ferternity. And now all of these johnny come latelys are trying to get our tickets. I have great respect for Prince for giving us diehard advanced notice so we can have first shot at those afterparty tickets.

Sassy, Are you in your twentys? If you are then I can understand you not worried about the waiting around and all of those things that use to go with the afterparties. That use to be cool and I didn't mind back then , but like I said earlier I have many more Responces.. now and I just don'e have the time to waste standing around waiting to see what happens. And He understands that.. Either way Its all a very positive experience.

Anxiety said:

That's exactly how I feel. Plus, if you don't go to the concert, at least you can go to the aftershow.

I hope he does this for NY and DC.

Bull said:

but that's my point, man. it was for he people who could hang. not for the people who could buy a ticket. don't get me wrong, i'm glad that peeps who would otherwise not go will have a chance to see an "aftershow". it always seemed to me, though, that the pay off for the wait and rush and chaos was getting into the show. now its as simple as buying a ticket. big whoop. that makes it just like every other hit n' run show. it's cool, though. i hope whoever goes has a blast !

Prince used to say that music was something that was free and beautiful until corporations came along and attached a business to it. Well, he's sort of done the same thing with the aftershows. Aftershows were something that was sponteneous and free, and now he's "marketing" it. Everyone expects Prince to do aftershows now. Which is why they're not as unpredicatable. I won't say not as exciting, cuz he's done some kickass aftershows through the 90s till today, but...I get what you're saying, the surprise is gone, the thrill is gone. somewhat. Back in the day, his aftershows seemed to be meant for a lucky few who just happened to be there. Now that it's been marketed, EVERYONE wants to be the "lucky few".

CalhounSq said:

mm-kay...i want a bay area aftershow!!!

SquarePeg said:

But if he's been doing aftershows since at least the early 90's & everyone expects him to do them, how surprising could they be anyway?

sosgemini said:

I'M WITH YOU!

CalhounSq said:

hoping for one and getting one are two different things.

SassyBritches said:

Alright, I get you now

You want hours of that tightrope feeling & anticipation - will he? Won't he? Will I get there in time? Will I get in? Will he sing?? What will he sing?? Will he play 2 songs & leave or 4 fucking hours??

That's the "thrill" you're talking about - not the thrill of the show itself but all the mystery & worry that used to go along w/ it. Am I right?

I don't want all that, the show is thrilling enough for me! But I think I hear you...

I've seen him 15 times so far & I still get serious butterflies whenever I know I'm gonna be in his midst. If I'm not jaded yet I don't think I ever will be. All that other stuff makes me nuts & I'm already not right in the head when he comes to town, lol! I can live w/o all the extra tension, I just wanna see the man



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CalhounSq said:

yeah, i love the shit that's attached to it. its a part of what's kept me interested. it's a part of prince...at least to me.

SassyBritches said: