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Reply #60 posted 04/02/04 12:40pm

VDubblin

Gustavo!

I've been a fan of your posts. A little off-topic, for this thread anyway but what do you think of the new album?

Always enjoyed your input,
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Reply #61 posted 04/02/04 12:59pm

Sueme

DavidEye said:

Randb said:



Long time reader here, sporadic poster.... why is it that when people speak sense, or simply what their opinion is in a sensible manner, it's seen as being an asshole or troublemaker? The posts that Rupert made make total sense to me. I was at the LA concert, and I was thinking that the same thing; that Prince would be hard-pressed to keep that level of intensity up, and attributed the stellar performance in LA to the fact that it was the opener.
I see posts here that run the gamut; but the ones that are seen as being "harsh" or "flames" are those that make succint points. What's up with this?



rolleyes That's the problem,Rupert is NOT stating his opinions in a sensible manner.He comes across as a rude,obnoxious fam who has to resort to childish name-calling and lame put-downs...


"You are just as stupid as the other guy"

"Some people are so stupid"

"Anyone who expects Prince to do the exact same set every night is a moron"


He may very well have some valid points,but when a person debates in that manner,they won't get much respect around here.


Rupert is a cabbage head lol
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Reply #62 posted 04/02/04 1:23pm

Sueme

diamond99 said:

Sueme said:

One Nite Alone Tour North American, 2002


Dates with aftershows will be noted:

1 March, Saginaw, Mich.
2 March, Chicago, Ill.
3 March, Chicago, Ill.
5 March, Columbus, Ohio
6 March, Detroit, Mich.
7 March, Buffalo, NY -- aftershow
9 March, Louisville, KY
10 March, Cleveland, Ohio
11 March, Indianapolis, In. -- aftershow
30 March, (early show) Washington, DC
30 March, (late show) Washington, DC
31 March, Washington, DC
3 April, Atlanta, GA
4 April, Atlanta, GA -- aftershow
6 April, Lakeland, FL
9 April, New York, NY -- aftershow
12 April, Kansas City, Mo.
14 April, Houston, TX
15 April, New Orleans, La.
16 April, Dallas, Tx. -- aftershow
19 April, Los Angeles, Ca. -- aftershow
20 April, Los Angeles, Ca. -- aftershow
24 April, Oakland, Ca.
26 April, Phoenix, Az.
29 April, Seattle, Wa.
30 April, Portland, Or. -- aftershow
28 May, Vancouver, Canada
31 May, Edmonton, Canada
2 June, Calgary, Canada
3 June, Regina, Canada
6 June, Winnipeg, Canada -- aftershow
13 June, Hamilton, Canada
15 June, Toronto, Canada
16 June, Ottawa, Canada -- aftershow
18 June, Montreal, Canada



And your point is.....?


Have you been reading this thread? In earlier posts, I said that a handful of cities are favored by Prince and they usually receive the extras and perks. I said that NY, Atlanta, Washington, DC, and LA are among his favored cities. And I have posted this tour list from Prince's last tour to prove what I'm saying is correct. The same cities that got the extras and perks on the last tour are also getting the extras on the latest tour.
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Reply #63 posted 04/02/04 2:57pm

scs2000

Hello.
I was at the Glendale show and I agree with DIAMOND99. I asked the guy next to me during the show if he could hear everything that Prince was singing during the middle segment and he could not. I was sitting 6 rows back from the stage on the left side. My sister-in-law was sitting center stage about 20 rows back and during "Insatiable" she said he had a disgusted look on his face and abruptly left the stage. I thought he left the stage rather fast and I saw him throw his mic, but thought it was part of the show. During the part with the audience dancing he had two females sing into the mic and I could not hear them, but I heard him say sing louder. Therefore, I believe he was upset at the sound of the show.
This was the fourth time I have seen him, all in Phoenix. Again I agree with DIAMOND99 that the ONA show was the best I have seen. Even though I thought this show was right there for a long while. My whole section was expecting a longer encore, but it did not make the show any less amazing. I thought the crowd was very into the show the whole time, except during the change over when the saxophone player, not Candy, was playing a spectacular solo and had to encourage the crowd, center stage on the back side, with his free hand then the crowd went crazy. Other than that, the crowd was giving great energy. I brought my 58-year-old mother and she thought he was amazing with his guitar and how he could hold the audience in the palm of his hand. I was not the least bit disappointed with the show and the tickets were just like NPGMC promised. I did not witness any misses during this show.
Everyone will be in for a royal treat!
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Reply #64 posted 04/02/04 3:16pm

VDubblin

Hey did anybody see him when he played the Electric Ballroom in Tempe a while back? I was like a couple feet away from him while he jammed on the ride and the santana medley. It was supersweet. Anybody? Anyone?
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Reply #65 posted 04/02/04 3:50pm

diamond99

VDubblin said:

Hey did anybody see him when he played the Electric Ballroom in Tempe a while back? I was like a couple feet away from him while he jammed on the ride and the santana medley. It was supersweet. Anybody? Anyone?



Yeah, I was there. I think that was after his Jam of the Year show at America West Arena. Man that was a crazy line to get into that show- ( the arena).
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Reply #66 posted 04/02/04 4:14pm

Freespirit

diamond99 said:

VDubblin said:

Hey did anybody see him when he played the Electric Ballroom in Tempe a while back? I was like a couple feet away from him while he jammed on the ride and the santana medley. It was supersweet. Anybody? Anyone?



Yeah, I was there. I think that was after his Jam of the Year show at America West Arena. Man that was a crazy line to get into that show- ( the arena).


So was I. thumbs up!, just feet away on the left hand side of the stage. ~incredible...
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Reply #67 posted 04/02/04 4:18pm

diamond99

Sueme said:

diamond99 said:




And your point is.....?


Have you been reading this thread? In earlier posts, I said that a handful of cities are favored by Prince and they usually receive the extras and perks. I said that NY, Atlanta, Washington, DC, and LA are among his favored cities. And I have posted this tour list from Prince's last tour to prove what I'm saying is correct. The same cities that got the extras and perks on the last tour are also getting the extras on the latest tour.



Of course I have been reading this thread. I would never post without knowing what I am talking about. Earlier you stated that "He gives his ALL to LA, NY, DC, Atlanta, London and a couple of other larger cities." You also stated that "LA, NY, DC, Atanta ALWAYS get FULL PRINCE. While most everybody else has to happy with HALF PRINCE." Now your statements imply that LA, NY, DC, Atlanta ALWAYS get FULL shows, while other cities get lesser shows or as you state it "HALF PRINCE". So then you post his tour list from ONA to try and prove your point. However, DC got NO aftershows and Atlanta only got one after show, so apparently they don't "ALWAYS get FULL PRINCE".

Also, according to you Ottawa, Winnepeg, Buffalo, Indianapolis, Dallas, and Portland all had aftershows. While Chicago, Detroit, DC, Oakland, and Toronto got no aftershows. Now I am not sure what planet you are from, but most people would agree that Chicago, Detroit, DC, Oakland, and Toronto are far bigger or more important cities than Ottawa, Winnepeg, Buffalo, Indianapolis, Dallas, and Portland.

Prince did not play an aftershow in Phoenix during ONA because Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez died the night before the show. John Blackwell told me that Prince was feeling a little down because of this and did not feel like going out after the show. I would say that is a very reasonable excuse. The soundcheck for the Phoenix ONA show was at least an hour long and the show was around 3 hours long. If you call that "HALF PRINCE", I will call that 3 times what anyone else is willing to do. And Prince did play and aftershow in Phoenix during the "Jam of the Year" tour. I just don't think you proved your point at all. But if you are still upset about no after show in Phoenix during ONA, take it up with Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez, if you can find her.
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Reply #68 posted 04/02/04 5:00pm

Sueme

diamond99 said:

Sueme said:



Have you been reading this thread? In earlier posts, I said that a handful of cities are favored by Prince and they usually receive the extras and perks. I said that NY, Atlanta, Washington, DC, and LA are among his favored cities. And I have posted this tour list from Prince's last tour to prove what I'm saying is correct. The same cities that got the extras and perks on the last tour are also getting the extras on the latest tour.



Of course I have been reading this thread. I would never post without knowing what I am talking about. Earlier you stated that "He gives his ALL to LA, NY, DC, Atlanta, London and a couple of other larger cities." You also stated that "LA, NY, DC, Atanta ALWAYS get FULL PRINCE. While most everybody else has to happy with HALF PRINCE." Now your statements imply that LA, NY, DC, Atlanta ALWAYS get FULL shows, while other cities get lesser shows or as you state it "HALF PRINCE". So then you post his tour list from ONA to try and prove your point. However, DC got NO aftershows and Atlanta only got one after show, so apparently they don't "ALWAYS get FULL PRINCE".

Also, according to you Ottawa, Winnepeg, Buffalo, Indianapolis, Dallas, and Portland all had aftershows. While Chicago, Detroit, DC, Oakland, and Toronto got no aftershows. Now I am not sure what planet you are from, but most people would agree that Chicago, Detroit, DC, Oakland, and Toronto are far bigger or more important cities than Ottawa, Winnepeg, Buffalo, Indianapolis, Dallas, and Portland.

Prince did not play an aftershow in Phoenix during ONA because Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez died the night before the show. John Blackwell told me that Prince was feeling a little down because of this and did not feel like going out after the show. I would say that is a very reasonable excuse. The soundcheck for the Phoenix ONA show was at least an hour long and the show was around 3 hours long. If you call that "HALF PRINCE", I will call that 3 times what anyone else is willing to do. And Prince did play and aftershow in Phoenix during the "Jam of the Year" tour. I just don't think you proved your point at all. But if you are still upset about no after show in Phoenix during ONA, take it up with Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez, if you can find her.


I damn sure did prove my point. I said that there are certain cities that Prince favors, and those favored cities are LA, Washington, NY etc....LA has already been receiving their customary perks and extras....and Washington, NY and the usual cities will certainly get their usual perks....you believe what you want to believe...because I KNOW for a fact that my city has NOT had an extended show or aftershow since 1998, while NY, LA, Washington et. al get 3 or 4 shows every tour...
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Reply #69 posted 04/02/04 5:09pm

psychodelicide

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tonto said:

Wrong, he did do the exact same show. He just cut it short. Bakersfield got the acoustic set. If you want to cut short a swow because Im in Phoenix, Prince please refund me my money. I guarantee none of the vegas or new york shows wont be cut short.

exactly WHO are you, you seem to think youre real important nod


falloff nod
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #70 posted 04/02/04 5:13pm

RupertZ

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Sueme said:


you can bet your ass that NY, Atlanta, DC, and the other cities that have ALWAYS been given the perks, will be getting a FULL show, with acoustic set, while once again, the cities that have gotten used to getting nothing extra will not be getting the acoustic part of the show..


That's what you said. You can backpeddle all you want, but you said some nonsense and you were called on it.
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Reply #71 posted 04/02/04 5:30pm

anniechristian

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This is not the 1st time prince has decided to skip the encores. He had diarhea that night
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Reply #72 posted 04/02/04 5:49pm

XxAxX

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isn't he scheduled to play like, one show a night for the next severalmonths? i mean how on earth will he have the energy to do that? i'd need more of a break between shows or something. he does seem to have amazing energy but let's hope he doesn't burn out or anything along the way. .. i don't think he means to diss anyone with a shorter set. maybe he just doesn't feel up for it or something
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Reply #73 posted 04/02/04 8:53pm

VDubblin

you know, fuck it. Does Phoenix deserve anything extra? Hell no. Why? Because Phoenix sux. And before anybody tries and derails my shit i can say i grew up here, moved away, came back, moving away again, but my point is, whatever. Two hours in this shitty town is more than i could ask from a guy who knows what's up. Anyone living here knows the deal. People come here to die. Period.

People come here to die.

The show kicked ass even with the technical difficulties and we're lucky. Tonto, if you're listening, fuck you. Sell you cloud and leave this thread and org post-haste. It was a great show and personally i believe he does dish out special shows, like Amsterdam but I don't hate them for it.

Right,
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Reply #74 posted 04/02/04 9:17pm

UniversalFlux

This whole topic reminds me of when I used to work at Arby's. Sure you can go there and get a chicken sandwich, or a sub, or whatever. Most people go for the roast beef tho. So one day we ran out of beef. Sure there were mad people like tonto here, accually most everyone was mad ,but oh well. I guess what my rambling is trying to say is that somtimes things do not go the way YOU (tonto) want them to go. Its just a part of life.
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Reply #75 posted 04/02/04 9:31pm

Sueme

RupertZ said:

Sueme said:


you can bet your ass that NY, Atlanta, DC, and the other cities that have ALWAYS been given the perks, will be getting a FULL show, with acoustic set, while once again, the cities that have gotten used to getting nothing extra will not be getting the acoustic part of the show..


That's what you said. You can backpeddle all you want, but you said some nonsense and you were called on it.


You are insane! I've haven't backpeddled at all!
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Reply #76 posted 04/02/04 9:33pm

VDubblin

RIGHT.

who's drunkf?

Besides me, c'mon.

Arby's sounds good. Their whole market samiches are the bomb. I go now. I take on "Pook's" delivery. Too bad "Pook" doesn't deliver. "Pook", I would like 2 turkey and swiss and chee and a super size curly fry. Thank yee, Pook.
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Reply #77 posted 04/03/04 2:03am

diamond99

VDubblin said:

you know, fuck it. Does Phoenix deserve anything extra? Hell no. Why? Because Phoenix sux. And before anybody tries and derails my shit i can say i grew up here, moved away, came back, moving away again, but my point is, whatever. Two hours in this shitty town is more than i could ask from a guy who knows what's up. Anyone living here knows the deal. People come here to die. Period.

People come here to die.

The show kicked ass even with the technical difficulties and we're lucky. Tonto, if you're listening, fuck you. Sell you cloud and leave this thread and org post-haste. It was a great show and personally i believe he does dish out special shows, like Amsterdam but I don't hate them for it.

Right,



I don't agree with everything you say, but I have lived in Arizona all of my life. And you are right, Phoenix does suck. Phoenix has absolutely no culture to speak of. We are lucky that Prince even grants us the opportunity to see him in AZ. And I am being completely serious. Even without the acoustic set, the show was amazing.
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Reply #78 posted 04/03/04 2:09am

diamond99

Sueme said:

diamond99 said:




Of course I have been reading this thread. I would never post without knowing what I am talking about. Earlier you stated that "He gives his ALL to LA, NY, DC, Atlanta, London and a couple of other larger cities." You also stated that "LA, NY, DC, Atanta ALWAYS get FULL PRINCE. While most everybody else has to happy with HALF PRINCE." Now your statements imply that LA, NY, DC, Atlanta ALWAYS get FULL shows, while other cities get lesser shows or as you state it "HALF PRINCE". So then you post his tour list from ONA to try and prove your point. However, DC got NO aftershows and Atlanta only got one after show, so apparently they don't "ALWAYS get FULL PRINCE".

Also, according to you Ottawa, Winnepeg, Buffalo, Indianapolis, Dallas, and Portland all had aftershows. While Chicago, Detroit, DC, Oakland, and Toronto got no aftershows. Now I am not sure what planet you are from, but most people would agree that Chicago, Detroit, DC, Oakland, and Toronto are far bigger or more important cities than Ottawa, Winnepeg, Buffalo, Indianapolis, Dallas, and Portland.

Prince did not play an aftershow in Phoenix during ONA because Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez died the night before the show. John Blackwell told me that Prince was feeling a little down because of this and did not feel like going out after the show. I would say that is a very reasonable excuse. The soundcheck for the Phoenix ONA show was at least an hour long and the show was around 3 hours long. If you call that "HALF PRINCE", I will call that 3 times what anyone else is willing to do. And Prince did play and aftershow in Phoenix during the "Jam of the Year" tour. I just don't think you proved your point at all. But if you are still upset about no after show in Phoenix during ONA, take it up with Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez, if you can find her.


I damn sure did prove my point. I said that there are certain cities that Prince favors, and those favored cities are LA, Washington, NY etc....LA has already been receiving their customary perks and extras....and Washington, NY and the usual cities will certainly get their usual perks....you believe what you want to believe...because I KNOW for a fact that my city has NOT had an extended show or aftershow since 1998, while NY, LA, Washington et. al get 3 or 4 shows every tour...


So are you saying that when Prince did not give Phoenix an aftershow during the ONA tour, it had nothing to do with the fact that Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez had died the night before. Are you honestly trying to state that Prince did not give us an after show because Phoenix is not one of his "favored" cities. And about the fact that NY, LA, DC get around 3-4 shows every tour, sorry but Prince could never sell out an arena in Phoenix for 3-4 nights. Live in fantasy land all you want, but this would never happen.
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Reply #79 posted 04/03/04 6:44am

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Wow there is a hell of a lot of psychics on here! He didn't even play NY or DC yet and here we already have people PREDICTING he will make the shows longer or give extras. WTF? the past is not always an indicator of the future.
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Reply #80 posted 04/03/04 8:30am

RupertZ

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adorable2 said:

Wow there is a hell of a lot of psychics on here! He didn't even play NY or DC yet and here we already have people PREDICTING he will make the shows longer or give extras. WTF? the past is not always an indicator of the future.
[This message was edited Sat Apr 3 6:45:24 2004 by adorable2]


Exactly...as has been pointed out by various people, in the past he has cut shows short in NY, LA, DC etc...he doesn't favor the big cities in this way. And the dummies aren't "predicting" he will play longer shows in big cities...they are guaranteeing it...they are so sure of something that will happen in the future. Oh well, let them live in their fantasyworld...it is the only way they can deal with life.
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Reply #81 posted 04/03/04 9:31am

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Man, there are some crazy ass posts on this thread.

I was at the show and here is my take if anyone cares.

The show kicked ass. Prince put on a great show.
The show was cut short because the sound was bad, bordering on awful near the end. The acoustic set is where any flaws in sound would have been magnified and Prince most likely just said forget it after what happened during Insatiable.

It had nothing to do with the crowd not being into it or Phoneinx as a city. The crowd was way into it. The idea that Prince cut it short becuase some people sat down during lesser known ballads or instrumentals when Prince was not on stage is silly. He is a professional.

There is nothing wrong with being dissapointed. His piano/accoustic medley's are some of my favourite parts of his shows and I really wanted to hear Little Red Corvette. I have been to many Prince shows and to have a one song encore bringing the concert to an hour and fifty minutes is highly unusual.

Asking for your money back however is crazy..the show was killer and worth every dime.
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Reply #82 posted 04/03/04 2:26pm

bananacologne

dealodelandron said:

lovemachine said:

Not good Prince shake


that sucks. but like the review says, he has a lot of hits. can't cover them all. and doing the same set list is boring. unfortunately la set the standard. every musician has their rough moments with concerts. not to blame it on arizona....but were they really all that enthusiastic? the energy in los angeles was insane. i tend to think that is why he did such a long encore.

I would second that - I remember being at the 2 Birmingham NIA shows in 1993 that kicked off the Act II tour, and the 1st nite was good, some techy problems, but the crowd were still having fun, and he seemed 2 pick up on that, and gave a fantastic encore, playing over the curfew, recieving a fine in the process.

Next nite, by the time the encore came around, he slowed the whole thing down, started chatting 2 the audience as if it was some small club gig, all really off-the-cuff, informal, and commented that he'd been fined the previous nite 4 'breaking the curfew..' (cue much hissing and booing from crowd) 2 which Prince laughed and said: 'I think Im gonna take that fine 2nite!' before launching in2 quite possibly the best encore set Ive ever seen him do - the energy coming off that stage and the audience response was nothing less than rabid. Was an awesome show - there's a couple of videos floating around of it too...
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Reply #83 posted 04/03/04 2:35pm

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Goddamm, didn't you all read the review? The reviewer said the people in the audience sat down during the slower songs. We know Prince, when he senses bad vibes from the crowd he gets pissed off. He nixed the acoustic part because he was worried the fans would act all pissy and not stand up. Prince lives on applause. What is the point of playing your heart out if nobody responds or gives a damn? So Prince gave them their Purple Rain and sent their sorry asses home. They didn't deserve the acoustic set. And they should have been happy that they got a free cd. Sorry ass Arizona sucka's.

I am going to email this idiot who wrote this review. I mean, who cares if he didn't play all his hits? Why not just play good music? That's whats wrong with this country; we don't appreciate art. Prince aint nobodies fucking kareoke bitch. Fuck em and their Little Red Corvette. Why can't they just appreciate good jams? It is not P's fault that the sound is bad. But he does have to fire some motherfuckers. He always tours with bad sound crews. Tryin to save money with a temp service or some such rot...lol.

Peace.



ah hem..... where i was no one was sitting.... everyone was jammin..... P was feelin the vibe of the crowd..... i been to alot of shows all ova..... the crowd was on their feet jammin all nite..... so i am not sure where they seen peeps sittin.... it was a full house and they were loud and havin a blast.....so to say we didn't deserve one is wrong.....we all paid for the same show..... he tore it up in a small town called Bakersfield the nite before..... simply the man was mad bout the sound..... he is a perfectionist.....i even noticed sound probs.....and i never do lol..... all i know is i hate being on the first part of a tour... to may bugs to work out.....

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Reply #84 posted 04/03/04 3:00pm

Eskimo

cool Prince gave a wonderful, energetic performance, I have no regrets. For you guys that were not satisfied, you have to also remember that the show started almost 45 minutes late due to the unorganization of the Glendale Arena.
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Reply #85 posted 04/05/04 8:33am

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All P shows start late....his 7:30 show in LA on 3/29 started at 8:10.....no surprise! I don't think I've ever been to one show when he took the stage at the time printed on the ticket.
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Reply #86 posted 04/06/04 8:06pm

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[color=indigo]I was at the Glendale, AZ concert - Prince sang a song I had never heard part of the lyrics was 'if you want a man....I aint the one.' Does anyone know the name of that song? I thought it was the best one he sang. I loved the concert. He's just a fantastic entertainer.[/color] lol
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Reply #87 posted 04/07/04 12:35am

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mchotsie said:

All P shows start late....his 7:30 show in LA on 3/29 started at 8:10.....no surprise! I don't think I've ever been to one show when he took the stage at the time printed on the ticket.


He used to always be late, but the last few times I've seen him, he came out almost exactly on time. This was on the ONA tour and the tour before that.
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Reply #88 posted 04/07/04 1:08am

diamond99

TeresaInArizona said:

[color=violet:621429c9c0]I was at the Glendale, AZ concert - Prince sang a song I had never heard part of the lyrics was 'if you want a man....I aint the one.' Does anyone know the name of that song? I thought it was the best one he sang. I loved the concert. He's just a fantastic entertainer.[/color] lol



That song is called "The One". It is from the New Power Soul album.
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Reply #89 posted 04/08/04 5:39pm

DesertMoon

So far Phoenix/Glendale is the only show without the acoustic set. Who wants to take a road trip. I'm afraid to go to another show and spend a lot of money and miss out again.
What would be a good show to go to ????
The shows are very similiar and he says the same comments night after night.

He should fly everyone from Phoenix that wants to go to another show so we can hear the acoustic set.
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