radici27 said:

Don't worry. You're in NYC. There will be lots of celebs in the audience. That means Prince will be sure to do a whole show....

RupertZ said:

Lovesexy? MF please. We are talking about shows in this millenium, not 15 years ago.

I was at the Phoenix show last night, and I am pretty sure that it was cut short because Prince was upset at the sound guy. They were having problems with Prince's mic and both saxophones. When the mic feedback got really bad during "Insatiable", Prince threw the mic at the sound guy and walked off the stage. I am pretty sure most people there did not notice this, but I did because I was right behind the sound guy. They were having sound issues all night long. But when you are playing up there with a full band, it is much easier to cover up. I think Prince skipped the acoustic set because he was afraid that with just him up there, if they were still going to be having sound issues it would become very obvious to everyone at the arena. Not sure if the sound guy works for Prince or the arena, but he should be fired. I personally blame the sound guy for loosing the acoustic set in Phoenix, not Prince.

Also, someone stated that Prince does not care to give a good show in Phoenix. Well I have seen him live 12 times. And of those 12 times, only 4 of them were in Phoenix. And I must say, the best Prince show I ever saw was his ONA tour in Phoenix. He played for over 3 hours and it was amazing. And he did a sound check for about an hour. He also stated that he was upset during the soundcheck because his friend Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez had died the night before. But he did not let his personal issues get in the way of a great show. A true professional.

Sueme said:

hahaha...great reply....sorry I busted you on being a blowhard and making statements that have no basis in reality. Go back to your fantasyland where Prince only plays encores in big cities. You are probably his best friend in your fantasy world too.

I love when the fams attack!

NOW I know the Princey season is in full swing!

K, now I love Prince and have seen him so many times that I can't really complain about anything. BUT, after watching the simulcast, I did make a comment that the whole slow chunk in the middle probably went on too long. True, I LOVED IT, and The Question of U was a gift to us loyalists, but it was too much, IMO for the general public, the public Prince is going after with these shows. He has clearly aimed all the marketing at getting the casual fans in the stadiums. I hope the AZ show was a blip due to technical issues or he's gonna blow yet one more attempt at relaunching himself in the mainstream. Besides, with the energy he put into the classics we've heard a million times, I now want to see them live again too.

FunkyStrange said:

Long time reader here, sporadic poster....why is it that when people speak sense, or simply what their opinion is in a sensible manner, it's seen as being an asshole or troublemaker? The posts that Rupert made make total sense to me. I was at the LA concert, and I was thinking that the same thing; that Prince would be hard-pressed to keep that level of intensity up, and attributed the stellar performance in LA to the fact that it was the opener.
I see posts here that run the gamut; but the ones that are seen as being "harsh" or "flames" are those that make succint points. What's up with this? And where's RDhull? he always had great posts, which is indeed missing from Prince.org at this time!

FunkyStrange said:

Long time reader here, sporadic poster....why is it that when people speak sense, or simply what their opinion is in a sensible manner, it's seen as being an asshole or troublemaker? The posts that Rupert made make total sense to me. I was at the LA concert, and I was thinking that the same thing; that Prince would be hard-pressed to keep that level of intensity up, and attributed the stellar performance in LA to the fact that it was the opener.
I see posts here that run the gamut; but the ones that are seen as being "harsh" or "flames" are those that make succint points. What's up with this? And where's RDhull? he always had great posts, which is indeed missing from Prince.org at this time!

Hey, this is Prince, shit happens.

Who knows what the reason was? I'm sure he'll play the accoustic set on most dates.

In Melbourne on the first night he did not play the piano segment yet he played that on all the other Aussie gigs. It turns out we heard later that there were some problems in the camp including an injury to Blackwell's arm. Things happen on tour.

Prince just raised your expectations by the amazing similcast show.

VelvetJ said:

AMEN~~~~~

2freaky4church1 said:

i think you may be on to something here....he really does seem to feed off the audience, again, i am no expert, but in talking with someone in the band, his comment to me was, "i thought you all would never let us off the stage !!" its true that night was filled with a certain 'air' and we were on our feet most the night, in fact, i remember trying to sit down at one point, and jumpin right back up --- the next song was so good, really, how does one sit down during a prince concert ? that i dont get the man works his ass off to make it so that we have the best entertainment available, and just as we feed off him, he feeds off us, i also have noticed, the crowd feeds off each other, so, IMHO, get up on your feet, stay live....and prince will wear you down thats what we all love so much about him

just think, if you were an artist, and you were showing your work, people were comming by and saying the most wonderful things about what you did, asking questions about how you got it to turn out so beautifully, ect. dont you think you would be much more excited to show off your work and maybe stay a bit longer than if people just came by and didnt say anything or seem appreciative at all ? stands to reason here, the man knows when we are truely happy and excited to see him play ....go forth and enjoy the opportunity to see him and his work

No doubt about it. Prince most definitely feeds off the energy of the crowd. After jamming in Cali, he probably thought the crowd enthusiasm was pretty weak in AZ and just wasn't feeling the vibe to go all out.

I'm just glad that some fans who have seen Prince do an acoustic set in concernt can now see why the fans who went to the last Celebration couldn't stop talking about the now famous acoustic night at the Park and how great it was.

The bottom line is that Prince just isn't going to do the same thing all the time no matter what. True fans should know that by now.

Wrong, he did do the exact same show. He just cut it short. Bakersfield got the acoustic set. If you want to cut short a swow because Im in Phoenix, Prince please refund me my money. I guarantee none of the vegas or new york shows wont be cut short.

tonto said:

exactly WHO are you, you seem to think youre real important

nakedpianoplayer said:

True... as an Educator, if I don't feel/believe in the lesson I am presenting (currently experiencing this)... I get completely frustrated and short of patience with my efforts to present a lesson and the children show the aftermath, it works both ways.

Although, when I formulate in detail something I feel enthusiastic to present and get a successful response (learning experience)... it makes a world of a difference.

I need a certain amount of "freedom" to present in my own style... nothing holding me back.

I have always known/ or recognized Prince's focus in his own personal energy and that he indeed feeds off his environment. For example: during the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame opening performance, the crowd was not showing visual movement. Yes, I find myself (many of times) in a trance just watching him... totally focusing on his total skill in direct/personal musicianship, I forget to move or breath at times. ~smile It happens. Nonetheless, In the end of his RRHOF performance, his "thank you" was anything but sincere/grateful as he left the stage, you could see his demeanor and stance (I could). His emotion was written in his facial expression and tone of voice. Perhaps that is why he kicked major fareekin ass later in what I would say... was his most impressive solo moment I had ever seen. I feel.

Anyways... I am not one to complain or even feel disappointed by what Prince decides to so beautifully give. We all have our "moments", in life we take our chances... and perhaps our expectations should be grounded, no matter $$$. It's a life experience. Simply be grateful for something we otherwise may never have had if "time" presented us differently.

I do love Musicology... listening to it now.

diamond99 said:

That show was/is one of the most spiritually/emotionally moving moments of my life...

endorphin74 said:

Prince has indeed had some pacing issues in recent years. Although thinking about it even the Purple Rain tour had some dull ass moments like the rambling "It's a purple house" speech.

tonto said:

How can you guarantee that? if you are so sure, then why did he "cut the show short" in New York during the Lovesexy Tour for BOTH nights? He didn't do the acoustic set (piano) either night. You are just as stupid as the other guy.

RupertZ said:

and YOU keep repeating yourself....lawd, it's gonna be a looooong tour, maybe it's time for me to quit visiting the Prince fourms again

Blah blah blah. Look Prince was having a bad night due to technical issues with the sound engineer that night. Mic was screeching and Prince was pissed. He gave a 2 hour performance and thats what the fans paid for. If you are guranteed something thats differant. What you are paying for is entertainment. Your expectations should be just to enjoy the music and have fun. If I was Prince and had to make a judgement call on to do the acoustic with absolute shit sound or not do it and save my ass and just do purple rain Id pick the latter of the 2. Hope you guys can see what Im talking about

RupertZ said:

You're the one in fantasyland going on and on about the Lovesexy tour from 15 years ago. As far as fantasizing that I'm Prince's best friend, no thanks. From what I've heard he'd throw his own brother under a bus if he thought it'd get a laugh.

One Nite Alone Tour North American, 2002


Dates with aftershows will be noted:

1 March, Saginaw, Mich.
2 March, Chicago, Ill.
3 March, Chicago, Ill.
5 March, Columbus, Ohio
6 March, Detroit, Mich.
7 March, Buffalo, NY -- aftershow
9 March, Louisville, KY
10 March, Cleveland, Ohio
11 March, Indianapolis, In. -- aftershow
30 March, (early show) Washington, DC
30 March, (late show) Washington, DC
31 March, Washington, DC
3 April, Atlanta, GA
4 April, Atlanta, GA -- aftershow
6 April, Lakeland, FL
9 April, New York, NY -- aftershow
12 April, Kansas City, Mo.
14 April, Houston, TX
15 April, New Orleans, La.
16 April, Dallas, Tx. -- aftershow
19 April, Los Angeles, Ca. -- aftershow
20 April, Los Angeles, Ca. -- aftershow
24 April, Oakland, Ca.
26 April, Phoenix, Az.
29 April, Seattle, Wa.
30 April, Portland, Or. -- aftershow
28 May, Vancouver, Canada
31 May, Edmonton, Canada
2 June, Calgary, Canada
3 June, Regina, Canada
6 June, Winnipeg, Canada -- aftershow
13 June, Hamilton, Canada
15 June, Toronto, Canada
16 June, Ottawa, Canada -- aftershow
18 June, Montreal, Canada

With my hectic work schedule I couldn't make it to the LA show but I did she the house of Blues show last month and he is still a bad mother. He also can become bored and why would you want the same experience every night to be reported (he's not britney spears) Give the genius a break we should be happy he's still around. Finally MUSICOLOGY made me laugh,cry and dance like so many of his older albums PRINCE AIN't BACK HE NEVER WENT NOWHERE this album was planned 2 be ausome in celebration of his career.
PEACE!

I think that live, Prince is so good, so consistently, that when he has an off night it's even more glaring than it would be with other performers. But he is human, as well as all the technicians, and things don't always go as planned. Obviously, when he comes to your town you don't want any skimping, but Prince on an off night is better than most of whats out there right now.
I had a similar experience at an aftershow several years ago. My first aftershow, actually. My boyfriend at the time paid a huge amount for the tickets. Let's just say WAY more than the face value. The show was great, and seeing Prince up close and relaxed for the first time was a priceless experience, but he played for about and hour, if that, then he fell, then played for a couple more minutes, then left the stage. Don't know if he hurt himself or his ego, but the abrupt ending was a disappointment. Considering we had just seen the brilliant Lovesexy show just a few hours before, it was kinda hard to complain about the aftershow. But that feeling of "Yeah it was great, but a bit on the short side" was there nonetheless.
But I guess we're all greedy when it comes to Prince. He has us spoiled rotten.

Sueme said:

And your point is.....?

Randb said:

That's the problem,Rupert is NOT stating his opinions in a sensible manner.He comes across as a rude,obnoxious fam who has to resort to childish name-calling and lame put-downs...


"You are just as stupid as the other guy"

"Some people are so stupid"

"Anyone who expects Prince to do the exact same set every night is a moron"


He may very well have some valid points,but when a person debates in that manner,they won't get much respect around here.

I am not saying that is is right, but I think the energy from the crowd has a lot to do with how Prince responds. The writer points out that some songs were not able to get the crowd out of their seats and I really feel that may have affected the outcome. Plus if the sound was bad to begin with Prince probably needed the same energy he got from LA or more to keep him out there. Those of us who claim to have been fans over the years know how fast Prince gets bored and if the crowd isn't in it he probably doesn't feel the need to keep playing. Oh and Prince never said out of his mouth neither on his site that this is the last time he will play the hits. Some people are getting this from sources other than Prince. He did say he will be trying to make room for his new stuff. Prince has been hinting for a long time he is bored with playing Little Red Corvette 1999 and others certain people have been wanting to hear. I personally would like new music sprinkled in also. There are only so many different ways to play the same stuff without getting bored out of your mind. Anyway I just hope the people in Jersey gives P a lot of love and energy and this way we can look foward to getting the same back from him. Cuz if he plays ? of U in my hometown I am gonna get my ass up out of that seat and lose it!

The fact that people are attacking me and not what I'm saying just shows that I am right and they are wrong, and rather foolish. They can continue to flame me all they want out of shame for being so dumb as to think that Prince "favors the big cities and would never cut a show short there". These are very low IQ people we are dealing with here, so of course they will lash out at me and call me names. That's all they are capable of...not thinking in a logically deductive manner. Fine with me...I'm not trying to win friends...just trying to say the truth and let it be heard by those smarter people here.

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[This message was edited Fri Apr 2 8:57:32 2004 by RupertZ]

RupertZ said:

whatever. please cease with the smart-assed commentary, mm'kay? you can respond to people much better than that.

RupertZ said:

"...and let it be heard by those smarter people here."

That reads weird.

I actually agree with most everything you've mentioned Rupert. But you lost points when you refered to "the truth." It's still just Rupertz opinion. And yes, it is unreasonable to expect the same show night after night.

Tonto annoys me.

Cool setlist....but only 2 songs from the new album????
I m glad he still plays ´Shh´