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Reply #30 posted 08/23/17 8:16pm

TruthTella777

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Cat Glover should shut her delusional ass up and be thankful Prince even hired her to be in his band and movie at all! If she doesn't have any financial stakes in the film, then she should be happy Showitme is showing Prince's magnum opus of a concert film and worry about getting as many shifts as she can at Subway, Mcdonalds, Dominos, or whatever low wage fast food spot she's working at. Like Kendrick Lamar said-BE HUMBLE!

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Reply #31 posted 08/23/17 8:49pm

laytonian

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A) What's this "unseen footage" Cat is talking about?

2) What's this about a hologram Cat is talking about?

III) Why is this in "Concerts"? It seems to me like people that might be interested in this movie been aired on a cable station might not check this forum.


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This is not where I originally posted it. It got moved.
If this isn't Prince music, what is? It's a movie!
Would they bury Purple Rain here?
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Reply #32 posted 08/23/17 8:52pm

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Despite what Cat believes, Showtime is NOT pay-per-view cable.
As for the rights, they were in limbo for years when Cineplex went out of business
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[Edited 8/23/17 20:57pm]
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Reply #33 posted 08/24/17 3:56am

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One press release from Showtime is saying the acquired he rights to the film. I did not see anything about unseen footage but that would be great if Showtime worked with the estate to get it.

Unless the band members in the movie had rights to the film no one has to ask their permission about anything. I think that Cat might be confused in thinking that are image cannot be broadcast without her permission or something like that.

She should have checked this out with her business manager first to see what if any rights she has.

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Reply #34 posted 08/24/17 3:59am

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TrivialPursuit said:

laurarichardson said:

This literally has not been on cable in 30 years. I have a cassette tape that I made from a showing on cable back in the day. eek


Simply untrue. Around 2006/7 it was on Palladia, and someone mentioned Starz. Both of those are cable, and one is premium.

But that was 10 years ago and Palladia when it was last on my cable system was not premium. I also bet they showed it at one in the morning. I do not remember the cable channels showing it after he passed away so something was going on with the rights to the film.

When I recorded it 30 years ago it came on at 3:00am.

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Reply #35 posted 08/24/17 4:00am

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I love Cat but I think she is mistaken. She was hired to do her bit. She did it and was paid. She knew or should have know much of it was filmed. So even if there is extra footage she likely has no case. What she did was a work for hire.

As to extra footage? I wonder if she has heard something we have not? I hope so!

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Reply #36 posted 08/24/17 4:03am

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laurarichardson said:

One press release from Showtime is saying the acquired he rights to the film. I did not see anything about unseen footage but that would be great if Showtime worked with the estate to get it.

Unless the band members in the movie had rights to the film no one has to ask their permission about anything. I think that Cat might be confused in thinking that are image cannot be broadcast without her permission or something like that.

She should have checked this out with her business manager first to see what if any rights she has.

even if there is new footage. she would not have a good case to block it. Her consent was when she was being filmed. This would also apply to any recordings. It was a work for hire situation.

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Reply #37 posted 08/24/17 7:08am

alandail

Concerts is the section to put a thread if you don't want anyone to read it. There are no new Prince concerts, so why would anyone even check here for anything new? This thread belongs in Prince music and more. I only found it because someone posted about it there.

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Reply #38 posted 08/24/17 7:20am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

laurarichardson said:

One press release from Showtime is saying the acquired he rights to the film. I did not see anything about unseen footage but that would be great if Showtime worked with the estate to get it.

Unless the band members in the movie had rights to the film no one has to ask their permission about anything. I think that Cat might be confused in thinking that are image cannot be broadcast without her permission or something like that.

She should have checked this out with her business manager first to see what if any rights she has.

even if there is new footage. she would not have a good case to block it. Her consent was when she was being filmed. This would also apply to any recordings. It was a work for hire situation.

I know I agree she is mis-informed. I do wonder what the estate is going to do with people who are actually co-writers on unreleashed songs.

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Reply #39 posted 08/24/17 7:27am

alandail

laurarichardson said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

even if there is new footage. she would not have a good case to block it. Her consent was when she was being filmed. This would also apply to any recordings. It was a work for hire situation.

I know I agree she is mis-informed. I do wonder what the estate is going to do with people who are actually co-writers on unreleashed songs.

pay them song writer royalties?

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Reply #40 posted 08/24/17 7:35am

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dance4me3121 said:


sexton said:


Which Blu-ray do you have that looks worse than the DVD? Because that's not right.

This one https://www.amazon.com/gp...ref=plSrch The sound is excellent but the picture is a little grainy compared to Canadian dvd


The Australian Blu-ray is also the one I own. I watched it again last night on my 55" TV and while there is much grain in some of the darker areas, it's definitely sharper than the Canadian DVD. If you don't like grain then I suppose I can see why you'd prefer a smoother, but less-defined DVD image.

But for everyone else, if you have a Blu-ray player and HD TV, the Australian and Japanese Blu-rays are the best there are out there right now.

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Reply #41 posted 08/24/17 9:28am

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alandail said:

laurarichardson said:

I know I agree she is mis-informed. I do wonder what the estate is going to do with people who are actually co-writers on unreleashed songs.

pay them song writer royalties?

You would hope it would be that easy. Also what if some of those co-writers do not want the songs releashed they have a right to have a say so as co-writers.

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Reply #42 posted 08/24/17 5:34pm

luvsexy4all

can someone contact her and ask about this unseen footage?????

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Reply #43 posted 08/24/17 6:12pm

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luvsexy4all said:

can someone contact her and ask about this unseen footage?????



I think she just misread the ad. It was worded strangely. See below.

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Reply #44 posted 08/24/17 6:57pm

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laurarichardson said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Simply untrue. Around 2006/7 it was on Palladia, and someone mentioned Starz. Both of those are cable, and one is premium.

But that was 10 years ago and Palladia when it was last on my cable system was not premium. I also bet they showed it at one in the morning. I do not remember the cable channels showing it after he passed away so something was going on with the rights to the film.

When I recorded it 30 years ago it came on at 3:00am.


Lots of assumptions.

I watched it, along with PR, UTCM, & GB during the day or prime time, not at 1am in the morning.

And plenty of channels shows the other three movies post-mortem, not that his being alive or not matters.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #45 posted 08/24/17 6:58pm

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Showtime is also advertising a Whitney Houston movie or documentary in September, too. Perhaps they are kicking off a run of music related content. September is sweeps anyway.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #46 posted 08/24/17 9:28pm

rap

luvsexy4all said:

can someone contact her and ask about this unseen footage?????

Most of the songs are linked by a themed narrative and many film critics were quick to praise Prince as being a better actor live than in the previous year's unsuccessful romantic comedy Under the Cherry Moon. In total, 13 songs appear on the video - 11 from Sign o' the Times and two others - a brief piano version of "Little Red Corvette" and a cover version of Charlie Parker's "Now's the Time" (performed without Prince and showcasing each member of the band). Initially, there had been plans to include the full concert which featured many other non-Sign o' the Times songs (including "Kiss", "1999", "Purple Rain", "When Doves Cry", "Girls & Boys", and "Let's Go Crazy") but these songs were eventually dropped.

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Reply #47 posted 08/25/17 1:38am

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TrivialPursuit said:



laurarichardson said:




TrivialPursuit said:




Simply untrue. Around 2006/7 it was on Palladia, and someone mentioned Starz. Both of those are cable, and one is premium.



But that was 10 years ago and Palladia when it was last on my cable system was not premium. I also bet they showed it at one in the morning. I do not remember the cable channels showing it after he passed away so something was going on with the rights to the film.



When I recorded it 30 years ago it came on at 3:00am.





Lots of assumptions.

I watched it, along with PR, UTCM, & GB during the day or prime time, not at 1am in the morning.

And plenty of channels shows the other three movies post-mortem, not that his being alive or not matters.


---You know what you know. I know what I know. Let's just leave it at that because plenty of people have complained about not seeing it and I have certainly looked for on demand and it is not there.
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Reply #48 posted 08/25/17 1:40am

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rap said:



luvsexy4all said:


can someone contact her and ask about this unseen footage?????




Most of the songs are linked by a themed narrative and many film critics were quick to praise Prince as being a better actor live than in the previous year's unsuccessful romantic comedy Under the Cherry Moon. In total, 13 songs appear on the video - 11 from Sign o' the Times and two others - a brief piano version of "Little Red Corvette" and a cover version of Charlie Parker's "Now's the Time" (performed without Prince and showcasing each member of the band). Initially, there had been plans to include the full concert which featured many other non-Sign o' the Times songs (including "Kiss", "1999", "Purple Rain", "When Doves Cry", "Girls & Boys", and "Let's Go Crazy") but these songs were eventually dropped.


---There was some extra footage on YouTube a while back and if the could get a hold of the New Year's rehersal that would be cool.
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Reply #49 posted 08/27/17 8:58am

LinnLM1

Cat is not exactly bright if she thinks she has any legal right to prevent SOTT from airing on Showtime. It's not even debatable that she has zero power or say-so over the airing of this concert movie. Re SOTT, she was a paid performer - nothing more.

And where is she getting the idea that there is "unseen footage" with this airing??? From the words "long unseen concert film" in the promo? Okayyyyy...

As for someone getting in touch with her business manager, someone might want to ask this business manager where Cat's "career" went once Prince let her go. Until Prince passed away last April, she had been seen and heard from the last 25 years as much as people in the Witness Protection Program.
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Reply #50 posted 08/27/17 9:20am

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LinnLM1 said:

Cat is not exactly bright if she thinks she has any legal right to prevent SOTT from airing on Showtime. It's not even debatable that she has zero power or say-so over the airing of this concert movie. Re SOTT, she was a paid performer - nothing more.

And where is she getting the idea that there is "unseen footage" with this airing??? From the words "long unseen concert film" in the promo? Okayyyyy...

As for someone getting in touch with her business manager, someone might want to ask this business manager where Cat's "career" went once Prince let her go. Until Prince passed away last April, she had been seen and heard from the last 25 years as much as people in the Witness Protection Program.
[Edited 8/27/17 8:59am]

Actually she continued to work for Prince at Glam Slam after Fagnoli dumped her as a client. I know that she has two kids and as been sick a lot over the last few years. The business manager actually post on this board and may have only started working with her recently.
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Reply #51 posted 08/27/17 3:19pm

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laytonian said:

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Despite what Cat believes, Showtime is NOT pay-per-view cable.
As for the rights, they were in limbo for years when Cineplex went out of business
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[Edited 8/23/17 20:57pm]

It will be on pay per view.
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Reply #52 posted 08/27/17 8:14pm

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laytonian said:
Despite what Cat believes, Showtime is NOT pay-per-view cable. As for the rights, they were in limbo for years when Cineplex went out of business . [Edited 8/23/17 20:57pm]


That's right.

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Reply #53 posted 08/27/17 10:27pm

rap

laurarichardson said:

rap said:

Most of the songs are linked by a themed narrative and many film critics were quick to praise Prince as being a better actor live than in the previous year's unsuccessful romantic comedy Under the Cherry Moon. In total, 13 songs appear on the video - 11 from Sign o' the Times and two others - a brief piano version of "Little Red Corvette" and a cover version of Charlie Parker's "Now's the Time" (performed without Prince and showcasing each member of the band). Initially, there had been plans to include the full concert which featured many other non-Sign o' the Times songs (including "Kiss", "1999", "Purple Rain", "When Doves Cry", "Girls & Boys", and "Let's Go Crazy") but these songs were eventually dropped.

---There was some extra footage on YouTube a while back and if the could get a hold of the New Year's rehersal that would be cool.

Can you elaborate?

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Reply #54 posted 08/28/17 9:03am

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rap said:

laurarichardson said:

rap said: ---There was some extra footage on YouTube a while back and if the could get a hold of the New Year's rehersal that would be cool.

Can you elaborate?

Some footage of some of the songs cut out of the movie and some alternative takes and outakes.

It did not stay up long. Recently I saw the actual footage of " Its Gonna Be a Beautiful Night" as it was recorded live in 86.

Just knocked out that is just a jam that he went back and added lyrics to later.

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Reply #55 posted 08/28/17 9:04am

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Mumio said:

laytonian said:


That's right.

It will be avalible on Showtime's Pay Per View. You will be able to rent it and hopefully buy it.

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Reply #56 posted 08/28/17 9:40am

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I hope it is on their streaming service and can be saved to a DVR...

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Reply #57 posted 08/28/17 9:44am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

I hope it is on their streaming service and can be saved to a DVR...

I think it will be and if this goes well I hope other concert material is put out to the public in this manner. A quick expensive way to get material out to the fans who want to buy it or just rent it.

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Reply #58 posted 08/28/17 11:00am

luvsexy4all

laurarichardson said:

rap said:

Can you elaborate?

Some footage of some of the songs cut out of the movie and some alternative takes and outakes.

It did not stay up long. Recently I saw the actual footage of " Its Gonna Be a Beautiful Night" as it was recorded live in 86.

Just knocked out that is just a jam that he went back and added lyrics to later.

r u refering to the 4 hour outtake reel???

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Reply #59 posted 08/28/17 11:26am

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laurarichardson said:

Mumio said:


That's right.

It will be avalible on Showtime's Pay Per View. You will be able to rent it and hopefully buy it.


I could not find any article stating it will be available as a pay per view movie. I did however find a link on Showtime's website stating it will be available on demand beginning September 17th if you are a Showtime subscriber and miss the first broadcast: http://www.sho.com/titles...-the-times

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