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Thread started 02/10/14 8:57am

funkyhead

Massive thanks to P - He has performed at a financial loss for us!

wow, just read a great post on the likely loss he has made so far & I am humbled. I can be so critical at times BUT just want to say a huge thanks for the gigs so far. Hell even at 70.00 that is a bargain [how much you pay for Beyonce' once they hit viagogo, seatwave etc? - try 200.00= for half decent seats]. Without going into a maths lesson it is clear & obvious that over the lasr 3 gigs he would have lost a tonne of cash from his own pocket.

So a HUUUUUUGE thanks to you Mr. P.

Any other purple heads care to say tahnks then please do [please DO NOT moan about the lack of presale tix..at £10 quick a ticket we can't complain!]

[Edited 2/10/14 9:01am]

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Reply #1 posted 02/10/14 9:44am

powersoul99

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I do think this was a last minute change.

The publicity of the Camden shows should have meant this would be a sell out, but with 2 hours to go the Q was only around the 1000 mark which would have been a disaster for him.

So to change it to his favour and make great PR the price was dropped to the same as last week.

He would have lost more than it cost last night if it was only half full.

And he was right, as the amount on here was saying they would go as soon as the price went down.

Didnt bother me either way as i was prepared to pay £70.

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Reply #2 posted 02/10/14 9:50am

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I don't know how he's doing it but Prince has a smart way of making money, he'll breakeven or walk away with a nice profit by the end of his tour I'm sure......

Maybe a newspaper or mag would pay him for a EP ?

The Hits must be higher in the charts i guess?

The Brit Awards are next week 19th? - another gig?

cool

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Reply #3 posted 02/10/14 9:57am

rafael

dont think he actually is making money with this so called tour...

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Reply #4 posted 02/10/14 1:48pm

LEWISTAYLORFAN

Sorry I think £70 is alot to wait inline for hours without a promise of a ticket or seat.

In case you have not noticed the UK is in a bad recession.

If you booking from the comfort of your home then top price £50 if that.
Factoring in he not playing much of his old stuff and it new material and the album not out yet and most fans do not know this 3EG stuff because he drip feeding it on you tube then £50 top price IMHO.

I would rather vomit than pay top money to see Beyonce she is not soul to me.

So considering he is giving the tickets away for £10 but waiting a long time in queue yes it is a bargain.

So I thank the purple royal highness.
It gets so salty baby (bittersweet by Lewis Taylor)
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Reply #5 posted 02/10/14 1:56pm

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LEWISTAYLORFAN said:

Sorry I think £70 is alot to wait inline for hours without a promise of a ticket or seat. In case you have not noticed the UK is in a bad recession. If you booking from the comfort of your home then top price £50 if that. Factoring in he not playing much of his old stuff and it new material and the album not out yet and most fans do not know this 3EG stuff because he drip feeding it on you tube then £50 top price IMHO. I would rather vomit than pay top money to see Beyonce she is not soul to me. So considering he is giving the tickets away for £10 but waiting a long time in queue yes it is a bargain. So I thank the purple royal highness.

I think you've missed the point. This is not about old stuff, it's about Prince playing what he wants to those hardcore enough to go with him. £70 is not pricy for a big name act nowadays. Look at the price of VIP tickets for big acts to get an up-close experience. The Police charged £90 for tickets in a stadium (Twickenham) about 5 years ago. A big act in a small venue should cost more, £70 is pricy, but not unreasonable. £10 is a bargain.

Name artists you can see for £10. RU40 (a UB40 tribute!) are £12 and Heaven 17 are £30.

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Reply #6 posted 02/10/14 2:04pm

LEWISTAYLORFAN

I think it is alot for unknown stuff when the album is not out and 5 years ago the recession had only just started and the Police played their hits.

Of course he is being more than fair to his fans.He is being very generous more than ANY artist I know.

I would not pay £70 to wait for hours in line for mainly new stuff that I have never heard before because he drip feeds the new music.

Maybe from the comfort of my home if only a few shows, I would bite the bullet.

I have seen him since the 80's.
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It gets so salty baby (bittersweet by Lewis Taylor)
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Reply #7 posted 02/10/14 2:09pm

SquirrelMeat

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powersoul99 said:

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I do think this was a last minute change.

The publicity of the Camden shows should have meant this would be a sell out, but with 2 hours to go the Q was only around the 1000 mark which would have been a disaster for him.

So to change it to his favour and make great PR the price was dropped to the same as last week.

He would have lost more than it cost last night if it was only half full.

And he was right, as the amount on here was saying they would go as soon as the price went down.

Didnt bother me either way as i was prepared to pay £70.

1000 x £70 = 70k

2000 x £10 = 20K

I think P did this one for the hell of it. The queue was already at 1,200 when they announced the price change. He CHOSE to loose money, otherwise he could have made four fold what he did. If it was about publicity, he could have taken the 70 quid, then announced free entry for the remainder. and filled in up in no time.

He did say over a week ago that he wanted $10 tickets.

[Edited 2/10/14 14:15pm]

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Reply #8 posted 02/10/14 3:38pm

powersoul99

SquirrelMeat said:

powersoul99 said:

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I do think this was a last minute change.

The publicity of the Camden shows should have meant this would be a sell out, but with 2 hours to go the Q was only around the 1000 mark which would have been a disaster for him.

So to change it to his favour and make great PR the price was dropped to the same as last week.

He would have lost more than it cost last night if it was only half full.

And he was right, as the amount on here was saying they would go as soon as the price went down.

Didnt bother me either way as i was prepared to pay £70.

1000 x £70 = 70k

2000 x £10 = 20K

I think P did this one for the hell of it. The queue was already at 1,200 when they announced the price change. He CHOSE to loose money, otherwise he could have made four fold what he did. If it was about publicity, he could have taken the 70 quid, then announced free entry for the remainder. and filled in up in no time.

He did say over a week ago that he wanted $10 tickets.

[Edited 2/10/14 14:15pm]

You missed the point, it's not about money, a half full venue that only holds 2000 people would be a disaster for a superstar like prince.

just see the Metro headlines "Prince can only get half audience if he charges full price".

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Reply #9 posted 02/10/14 3:44pm

fnksoul

Dreamer2 said:

I don't know how he's doing it but Prince has a smart way of making money, he'll breakeven or walk away with a nice profit by the end of his tour I'm sure......

Maybe a newspaper or mag would pay him for a EP ?

The Hits must be higher in the charts i guess?

The Brit Awards are next week 19th? - another gig?

cool

I think tis wll be part funded by the Record label releasing the new album for promotion, he'll certainly walk away with some cash out of it in the end, venues all booked last min, which means low hire costs etc... He wont have been out of pocket by it anyway.

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Reply #10 posted 02/10/14 3:44pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

He did say over a week ago that he wanted $10 tickets.

[Edited 2/10/14 14:15pm]

Yeah and he didn't deliver. £10 is approx $16.40. Prince makes out like he wants to be good to us, leads us on, then shits all over us with £10 entry instead of the £6.10 which would actually be $10. I think he hates us.

RIP sad
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Reply #11 posted 02/10/14 3:53pm

SquirrelMeat

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TheEnglishGent said:

SquirrelMeat said:

He did say over a week ago that he wanted $10 tickets.

[Edited 2/10/14 14:15pm]

Yeah and he didn't deliver. £10 is approx $16.40. Prince makes out like he wants to be good to us, leads us on, then shits all over us with £10 entry instead of the £6.10 which would actually be $10. I think he hates us.

lol Its Crystal Ball all over again.

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Reply #12 posted 02/10/14 3:53pm

funkyhead

TheEnglishGent said:

SquirrelMeat said:

He did say over a week ago that he wanted $10 tickets.

[Edited 2/10/14 14:15pm]

Yeah and he didn't deliver. £10 is approx $16.40. Prince makes out like he wants to be good to us, leads us on, then shits all over us with £10 entry instead of the £6.10 which would actually be $10. I think he hates us.

lol

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Reply #13 posted 02/10/14 3:58pm

SquirrelMeat

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powersoul99 said:

SquirrelMeat said:

1000 x £70 = 70k

2000 x £10 = 20K

I think P did this one for the hell of it. The queue was already at 1,200 when they announced the price change. He CHOSE to loose money, otherwise he could have made four fold what he did. If it was about publicity, he could have taken the 70 quid, then announced free entry for the remainder. and filled in up in no time.

He did say over a week ago that he wanted $10 tickets.

[Edited 2/10/14 14:15pm]

You missed the point, it's not about money, a half full venue that only holds 2000 people would be a disaster for a superstar like prince.

just see the Metro headlines "Prince can only get half audience if he charges full price".

I see your point, but if it were about the money and the publicity, he simple could have announced it 24 hours earlier. I just get the feeling at the moment he doesn't give a shit and he's enjoying himself. It is crap buisness practice, but thats been the story of Prince since 92.

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Reply #14 posted 02/10/14 4:04pm

funkyhead

SquirrelMeat said:

powersoul99 said:

I see your point, but if it were about the money and the publicity, he simple could have announced it 24 hours earlier. I just get the feeling at the moment he doesn't give a shit and he's enjoying himself. It is crap buisness practice, but thats been the story of Prince since 92.

yep, i think he's just having a blast!..suspect there's some big £ gigs already sorted around the corner to compensate?

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Reply #15 posted 02/10/14 4:06pm

TheEnglishGent

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SquirrelMeat said:

powersoul99 said:

I see your point, but if it were about the money and the publicity, he simple could have announced it 24 hours earlier. I just get the feeling at the moment he doesn't give a shit and he's enjoying himself. It is crap buisness practice, but thats been the story of Prince since 92.

It sure is, but aren't we doing well from it! If this doesn't finally shut up those that keep saying Prince is all about the money, then nothing will.

RIP sad
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Reply #16 posted 02/10/14 4:11pm

SquirrelMeat

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funkyhead said:

SquirrelMeat said:

I see your point, but if it were about the money and the publicity, he simple could have announced it 24 hours earlier. I just get the feeling at the moment he doesn't give a shit and he's enjoying himself. It is crap buisness practice, but thats been the story of Prince since 92.

yep, i think he's just having a blast!..suspect there's some big £ gigs already sorted around the corner to compensate?

Hard to read at the moment. 3EG suits small hot and sweaty venues. but it could also suit festivals. Not sure about arenas. He could bring in the NPG for arenas, but that might take away from the 3EG promotion. I think he is making it up as he goes, and for once, I quite like that.

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Reply #17 posted 02/10/14 4:19pm

funkyhead

SquirrelMeat said:

funkyhead said:

yep, i think he's just having a blast!..suspect there's some big £ gigs already sorted around the corner to compensate?

Hard to read at the moment. 3EG suits small hot and sweaty venues. but it could also suit festivals. Not sure about arenas. He could bring in the NPG for arenas, but that might take away from the 3EG promotion. I think he is making it up as he goes, and for once, I quite like that.

agreed, never a dull moment in Purple Land!

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Reply #18 posted 02/10/14 4:28pm

SquirrelMeat

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funkyhead said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Hard to read at the moment. 3EG suits small hot and sweaty venues. but it could also suit festivals. Not sure about arenas. He could bring in the NPG for arenas, but that might take away from the 3EG promotion. I think he is making it up as he goes, and for once, I quite like that.

agreed, never a dull moment in Purple Land!

I think it all comes down to whether you've had a recent purple fix. After the last week, I'm getting him more than ever and reconnecting with him as an artist. If I missed the latest gigs because of distance or lack of management planning, I'd be frustrated! I was listening to Lets Go Crazy Redux in the car on the way to work this morning. Already it is 1000 times better than it sounded a week ago, because now, I can feel it.

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Reply #19 posted 02/10/14 5:10pm

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funkyhead said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Hard to read at the moment. 3EG suits small hot and sweaty venues. but it could also suit festivals. Not sure about arenas. He could bring in the NPG for arenas, but that might take away from the 3EG promotion. I think he is making it up as he goes, and for once, I quite like that.

agreed, never a dull moment in Purple Land!

i really love it, he's like a musical banksy!! where's eee gonna strike next?!!

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Reply #20 posted 02/10/14 6:12pm

jjam

I seriously doubt that he was going to charge more than £10 anyway for the Empire gig, the £70 charge was all a ruse.

I think we'll see the £10 charge for the smaller venues (excluding Ronnie's if he plays there which seems unlikely as he seems to have upset the management there), and places like the O2 towards the end of the month for a more typical charge and advance booking (of only a few days though).

The small gigs are where it's at for me.

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Reply #21 posted 02/11/14 1:06am

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My take on this is, like a lot of things over the years, we will never know the real story. Its a 'Life ain't no fun without mystery' moment.

I stood right behind the guys with the placards in the queue. Had a heated debate with them about what they were doing, not because I thought it was wrong, but in the beginning it was bringing out the nasty side of some passers by. After what happened in the queue at the EB, I was in no mood for another tension filled night waiting to get in.

Like others have said, 70 quid was going to be a lot of money to pay, but when this hit and run tour of small venues was announced I was expecting to pay minimum of 100 quid or more. TBH, if tickets for these gigs were sold online, most of us would have got properly screwed over by the legalized ticket touts such as viagogo and getmein.

I personally think they took a gamble. If we fill the place for 70 a pop and there is no backlash, happy days. After a gig like that, the majority of us would have come out and said it was a bargain. Then the stunt with the placards happened, a lot of angry tweets were being sent. Mostly via people in the queue, and they probably thought this is not worth the bad press or risking a potential backlash. I am sure get enough of that after EB.

I personally thought when I heard it was 70, that it was a ploy to thin the herd and prevent the nonsense that went on in Camden. However, the ticket has 70 on it and 3EG's 'People Power' tweet more or less acknowledges the guys with the placards for the change in price.

Regardless, it was the best gig I have ever been to, I have waited 30 years to experience something as amazing as that, and would have happily handed over a lot more for such an experience.

With that said, Thank you Prince.

If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

"True to his status as the last enigma in music, Prince crashed into London this week in a ball of confusion" The Times 2014
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Reply #22 posted 02/11/14 1:22am

DamnBird

I'm not wealthy by any means but this was my first ever time to see Prince. I'd made my mind up & I was seeing him - the £70 we were initially told didn't deter me, nor did 5 hours freezing my butt off in the queue. When we were told it had dropped to a tenner we were all elated but all said the same - we'd have paid the £70. People I met in the queue all said I was in for a great show & they were right. I'd do it all again - I'm hooked! Yeah... great experience - thanks Prince!!!

From London... Cuckoo...!
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Reply #23 posted 02/11/14 2:36am

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It's a promotional tour - he'll make all the money back for sure.

I for one have bought some of the newer stuff having seen 3rd Eye Girl.

I'm sure plenty of other people will also be buying Prince music off the back off the gigs and him being in the news and he will tour later for larger ticket prices.

He may also have some high paying 'Private' gigs off the back of it.

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Reply #24 posted 02/11/14 3:04am

nisha24

I'm going to queue 21/22 February I just want to see him . Hope we all get a chance to see him £10.00 or £70.00 cheaper the ticketmaster smile)))💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
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Reply #25 posted 02/11/14 3:11am

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nisha24 said:

I'm going to queue 21/22 February I just want to see him . Hope we all get a chance to see him £10.00 or £70.00 cheaper the ticketmaster smile)))💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

Where will you be queueing? What inside info do you have?

RIP sad
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Reply #26 posted 02/11/14 10:06am

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TheEnglishGent said:



nisha24 said:


I'm going to queue 21/22 February I just want to see him . Hope we all get a chance to see him £10.00 or £70.00 cheaper the ticketmaster smile)))💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

Where will you be queueing? What inside info do you have?


Where abouts? Come on spill the beans! This better no be just a random queue
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Reply #27 posted 02/11/14 10:38am

jaypotton

nisha24 said:

I'm going to queue 21/22 February I just want to see him . Hope we all get a chance to see him £10.00 or £70.00 cheaper the ticketmaster smile)))💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

Sorry gonna call you on this... FAKE! razz

'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #28 posted 02/11/14 11:41am

nisha24

jaypotton said:



nisha24 said:


I'm going to queue 21/22 February I just want to see him . Hope we all get a chance to see him £10.00 or £70.00 cheaper the ticketmaster smile)))💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜


Sorry gonna call you on this... FAKE! razz


Hey guys I'm quite new on org just use to catch up fan gatherings smile I just wrote that I will be going to London 21/22 February and will queue to see Prince if he does show ?! That's the only weekend I can make it to hopefully catch a show this month . I'm not a fake but as I said hope we all get a chance to see this beautiful purple genius . If I find through searches that he is doing gig this is where I would tell you all. 😈💜💜💜💜💜💜
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Reply #29 posted 02/11/14 8:08pm

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He's done a lot of concerts for very cheap or free or just donate a coat.
In some interview, he talked of passing on the cost to advertisers instead of the concert goers - really appreciate that mentality!
The 21 nights in L.A. were quite affordable (some $20 tickets) but I missed every single one - I was having a baby in April. Still regret that. Well, I don't regret having the baby, but why oh why did it have to be in April?
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