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Thread started 02/18/14 12:50am

Ppenguin

ears still hurting from KOKO

Anybody else still experiencing muffled hearing and ringing in their ears after the first KOKO gig.

Mentioned it on Twitter and got jumped on by Prince sycophants who claimed I was making it up in the hope of getting a freebie from KOKO or 3rdEyeSquirrel.

Maybe it was a 'at the front' issue but my ears are still muffled and ringing like a bitch constantly...hard to sleep last night
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Reply #1 posted 02/18/14 12:52am

ashleigh25

i have the same issue. Was close for the second show its got a little better but one ear is still ringing.

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Reply #2 posted 02/18/14 12:57am

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ashleigh25 said:

i have the same issue. Was close for the second show its got a little better but one ear is still ringing.




Your just after a freebie!!! biggrin

Incidently that's an absolutely ridiculous accusation because how the hell can I prove a) my ears are ringing. b) I was even there (unless you ask the people who queued with me for 11 hours to verify the stories I can recount)
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Reply #3 posted 02/18/14 1:00am

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Ppenguin said:

ashleigh25 said:

i have the same issue. Was close for the second show its got a little better but one ear is still ringing.

Your just after a freebie!!! biggrin Incidently that's an absolutely ridiculous accusation because how the hell can I prove a) my ears are ringing. b) I was even there (unless you ask the people who queued with me for 11 hours to verify the stories I can recount)

I dont think your after anything, you just like complaining.

live music is loud. so get over it.

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Reply #4 posted 02/18/14 1:03am

aiden

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I feel really sorry for you guys. I only caught the last full song in Koko and nearly had to ask the bar for earplugs cause it was so loud, wasn't anywhere near as loud at the Electric Ballroom. In SBE a week ago me and my friend got earplugs at the bar about 3 songs into the set as it was incredibly loud. They often have earplugs at the bar in these venues or you can buy them before at most superdrug/boots type stores. Being a musician for a living I have to take care of my ears so I'm now very sensitive to loud noise. I'm sure the ringing and muffled-ness will go away but next time definitely get some.
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Reply #5 posted 02/18/14 1:10am

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aiden said:

I feel really sorry for you guys. I only caught the last full song in Koko and nearly had to ask the bar for earplugs cause it was so loud, wasn't anywhere near as loud at the Electric Ballroom. In SBE a week ago me and my friend got earplugs at the bar about 3 songs into the set as it was incredibly loud. They often have earplugs at the bar in these venues or you can buy them before at most superdrug/boots type stores. Being a musician for a living I have to take care of my ears so I'm now very sensitive to loud noise. I'm sure the ringing and muffled-ness will go away but next time definitely get some.

Good advice, In addition to that lay off listening to any loud music/noise for a couple of days (no headphones especially) and you'll be fine.

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Reply #6 posted 02/18/14 1:11am

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powersoul99 said:



Ppenguin said:


ashleigh25 said:

i have the same issue. Was close for the second show its got a little better but one ear is still ringing.



Your just after a freebie!!! biggrin Incidently that's an absolutely ridiculous accusation because how the hell can I prove a) my ears are ringing. b) I was even there (unless you ask the people who queued with me for 11 hours to verify the stories I can recount)



I dont think your after anything, you just like complaining.


live music is loud. so get over it.



No you're right - terribly sorry I'm a little concerned about my hearing - jeez, I'm glad your not a fireman; "burning??...fire is hot, get over it"
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Reply #7 posted 02/18/14 1:25am

Scotsman1999

At the Indigo back in 07 I had to move away from the front and tilt my head as I was getting the warning buzz I feel when sound pressures are too much. Those guitar notes were absolutely piercing.

Everyone will be different, but rather than look cool I'd always prefer to keep my distance and/or wear earplugs.

Those are delicate hair cells inside your ears - a gig might give you a few minutes of aural bliss, but it's not worth a lifetime of impairment.

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Reply #8 posted 02/18/14 1:29am

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Ppenguin said:

powersoul99 said:

I dont think your after anything, you just like complaining.

live music is loud. so get over it.

No you're right - terribly sorry I'm a little concerned about my hearing - jeez, I'm glad your not a fireman; "burning??...fire is hot, get over it"

Yeah theres no need to be a twat about it, ear problems are not funny.

I've been clubbing etc for 20 plus years and i've always worn ear plugs otherwise my ears would be frigged by now. Dosn't help you now but I'd always advocate ear plugs, people won't think they're hard as nails when they're 60 and deaf.

Also worth noting that most clubs and gigs these days have p.a's run by people who rush thru a sound check, no need for ear ringing with good gear and someone taking their time to tweak the set up but more often that not its just turn it up to 11 and go!

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Reply #9 posted 02/18/14 1:40am

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honer said:



Ppenguin said:


powersoul99 said:




I dont think your after anything, you just like complaining.


live music is loud. so get over it.



No you're right - terribly sorry I'm a little concerned about my hearing - jeez, I'm glad your not a fireman; "burning??...fire is hot, get over it"


Yeah theres no need to be a twat about it, ear problems are not funny.



I've been clubbing etc for 20 plus years and i've always worn ear plugs otherwise my ears would be frigged by now. Dosn't help you now but I'd always advocate ear plugs, people won't think they're hard as nails when they're 60 and deaf.



Also worth noting that most clubs and gigs these days have p.a's run by people who rush thru a sound check, no need for ear ringing with good gear and someone taking their time to tweak the set up but more often that not its just turn it up to 11 and go!



I think it was perhaps being at the front - not sure if the speakers were anywhere else but there. It's a Shame because it was so loud at times that it was just a roar of noise like a jet engine which i couldn't decipher...the bass solo was a bit like that too.quite a few people said exactly the same too but I was just wondering if anybody else was still feeling it
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Reply #10 posted 02/18/14 1:48am

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i've been wearing ear protection at gigs since the 2007 shows. you can get something decent and reusable from about £12 or so if you look online. they let all frequencies through but reduce the volume, but you can still hear people next to you talk if you get the right ones. these prevent ringing in the ears and irrecoverable permanent damage. i'd suggest not use earphones, especially IEM's and non can type headphones for at least a week and avoid more loud music to give your ears a rest

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Reply #11 posted 02/18/14 1:50am

aiden

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It was the loudest prince gig I've been to (out of 19) at SBE and I was sat on balcony level 2 at the front and KOKO was crazy loud from balcony too so don't think you have to be sat at the front to have problems..
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Reply #12 posted 02/18/14 2:19am

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Mine are killing me too. My hubby who is a sound engineer bought his earplugs which i was taking the piss out of him for but he and as some you said you can hear all the frequencies and it is a better listening experience.

Way too loud.
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Reply #13 posted 02/18/14 2:26am

rolyateel

http://www.etymotic.com/hp/er20.html

Buy some of these...think mine were £10...you can get them in the UK

Worth every penny, and music sounds great, just with the volume turned down.

Been wearing mine since Ash gave me tinitus for 3 days after a gig in 2003

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Reply #14 posted 02/18/14 2:31am

unique

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rolyateel said:

http://www.etymotic.com/hp/er20.html

Buy some of these...think mine were £10...you can get them in the UK

Worth every penny, and music sounds great, just with the volume turned down.

Been wearing mine since Ash gave me tinitus for 3 days after a gig in 2003

i use ones like those, in a plastic case and with a string keeping them together like headphones so you don't lose em

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Reply #15 posted 02/18/14 2:35am

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strawberrybubblegum said:

Mine are killing me too. My hubby who is a sound engineer bought his earplugs which i was taking the piss out of him for but he and as some you said you can hear all the frequencies and it is a better listening experience.

Way too loud.



Maybe that's why he was in such a rush to finish the 1st show and get us out..it was nothing to do with getting the celeb-attendee show started ASAP...he had our long term hearing at heart lol
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Reply #16 posted 02/18/14 2:37am

Robbajobba

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I was at the second Koko gig my ears were still bad yesterday, much better today. Regretted on the night not have earplugs (I started using them at the Inidgo2 aftershows) - thanks for the tip about getting them from the bar.

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Reply #17 posted 02/18/14 3:03am

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Ppenguin said:


Maybe that's why he was in such a rush to finish the 1st show and get us out..it was nothing to do with getting the celeb-attendee show started ASAP...he had our long term hearing at heart lol[/quote]


lol lol lol
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Reply #18 posted 02/18/14 4:12am

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Enjoyed the show, but never had it so loud. I went to the front (under the speaker stack) which might not be the best place. It was hard to hear the music clearly, and between songs could barely hear people around me. 24 hour tinnitus gone now and had a great time so don't want to focus on the negative, but it actually hurt early on - never experienced that at a professional gig before.

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Reply #19 posted 02/18/14 4:28am

catpark

My ears were bad after coming out of koko sunday, woke up monday my ears were still shot plus with a pounding headache that was all around the both sides of my head by the ears section, this was unusual for me as i never get headaches also i dont think my hearing is that great anyway as i play drums a lot. This went on all day monday day and night it was painful. But im alright now tho.
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Reply #20 posted 02/18/14 5:02am

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remedy is: visit another Prince gig....

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Reply #21 posted 02/18/14 5:38am

catpark

rafael said:

remedy is: visit another Prince gig....


Yep!! heehee
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Reply #22 posted 02/18/14 5:42am

Ppenguin

catpark said:

rafael said:

remedy is: visit another Prince gig....


Yep!! heehee

lol I think not - Sunday put me off for a little while....the experience of seeing him lost something for me and I never thought I'd say that after being right at the front.
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Reply #23 posted 02/18/14 5:52am

Ppenguin

Interestingly comments on the Guardian about volume and length of first show
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Reply #24 posted 02/18/14 6:17am

ludwig

If you don't protect your ears while being at a rock concert, it's your own fault if you get hearing problems. Tinnitus is no fun at all, so be careful and use earplugs.

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Reply #25 posted 02/18/14 8:28am

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Have to add my voice to the common sense chorus here. Tinnitus is a bitch. Earplugs actually improve the sound of loud live music (filters out unwanted room reverb) and save you from being mutton in later life.

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Reply #26 posted 02/18/14 1:13pm

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Mine are totally shot after show 2 at KoKo.

Loudest concert I have EVER been to. I don't usually suffer like some of my friends, but at times it was nuts loud. Think I popped my left ear drum, but it seems to be coming back a little now.

Not funny. A bit less volume would have made the show a good bit better in my opinion.

Still great, but on occasion your ears couldn't pick out anything and it became noise.

Thought ear plugs weren't needed, but I'm changing my mind.

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Reply #27 posted 02/18/14 2:35pm

purplegiraffe

As others have said, musicians earplugs are a must at these loud gigs. I damaged my ears about 10 years ago at a gig at The Garage and soon learned that damaged ears simply can't be repaired so be careful. Those etymotic earplugs, or similar, are amazing - you hear everything but at less volume. I was wearing them at the SBE and Koko Show 1 gigs, heard everything clearly and had no problems. I carry them with me everywhere now. Also, if your ears are still ringing after a week try the chinese medicine below - my tinnitus 10 years ago reduced by 80-90% permanently after 3 days with these magic pills. Hope this helps someone.

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Reply #28 posted 02/18/14 9:26pm

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The first Musicology show that I saw was absolutely deafening. The loudest I can remember, except for possibly Danzig. My ears rang badly after that, and may have done damage. I think venue owners should be sued for sending out dangerous levels like that. There's really no excuse.

After that, I always bring earplugs. But when I saw him in 2010 or so, it was almost not loud enough. Probably had a lot to do with where the seats were.

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Reply #29 posted 02/19/14 12:06am

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Even if a gig doesnt sound loud, it CAN damage your ears. It might be 10 years later when you start getting permanent hearing damage. Tinnitus is not a joke, it will make your life a misery.

Wear ear plugs! The good ones won't stop your enjoyment.

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