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Reply #120 posted 02/17/14 5:28pm

BillieBalloon

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Jesus, I've gotta go and pick someone up from there in a bit, hope it ain't all chaotic...great confused


There was a time when prince fans were the coolest and well behaved, how times change. However, I dont think the yobs are genuine fans but just "prince tourists." Dont let these assholes hijack these gigs!
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Reply #121 posted 02/17/14 6:18pm

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MissMarySharon said:
Just seen a picture on Twitter of some folks still waiting in line, hoping to be admitted for the second show, fingers crossed for them. Stephen Fry walked in, apparently.
What a surprise Fry just walks in...while the rest of us are treated like cattle being herded in. Ive seen prince in many gigs over the years...fantastic memories but I cant see myself going to these gigs being pushed and shoved whilst the smug celebs take selfies inside. Sorry prince. [Edited 2/17/14 17:14pm]

Precisely why I refused to queue tonight, lol

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Reply #122 posted 02/17/14 6:36pm

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Ronnie Scotts have members.. they HAVE to let them in ahead of other people, that's what the membership is for. The venue can't just turn away their loyal members in favour of random people in the queue who would never come back.

That's the whole point of being a member, you get priority. The only way around that is advance ticketing. If it is a pay-on-the-door show, paying members get in first.

Of course Ronnie Scotts' are going to pander to their own members more than Prince fans.

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Reply #123 posted 02/17/14 6:45pm

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DreZone said:

BillieBalloon said:

MissMarySharon said: What a surprise Fry just walks in...while the rest of us are treated like cattle being herded in. Ive seen prince in many gigs over the years...fantastic memories but I cant see myself going to these gigs being pushed and shoved whilst the smug celebs take selfies inside. Sorry prince. [Edited 2/17/14 17:14pm]

Precisely why I refused to queue tonight, lol

'dre

I'm sure this happens at most events...

Fact: Prince is a celebrity; Celebrities rub shoulders with each other; Celebrities get/give preferential treatment;...we (fans) treat them un-like commoners, therefore, it makes it okay....

of course, you don't have to like it...but that's pretty much the way it is.

[Edited 2/17/14 18:59pm]

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Reply #124 posted 02/17/14 6:56pm

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EuanH91 said:

Ronnie Scotts have members.. they HAVE to let them in ahead of other people, that's what the membership is for. The venue can't just turn away their loyal members in favour of random people in the queue who would never come back.

That's the whole point of being a member, you get priority. The only way around that is advance ticketing. If it is a pay-on-the-door show, paying members get in first.

Of course Ronnie Scotts' are going to pander to their own members more than Prince fans.

Except, Prince made a private hire (confirmed by the venue earlier today), negating membership. Its like hiring a golf club for a wedding. Every golf club member doesn't get the right to crash the wedding. It seems there was an agreement to allow limited amounts of members to attend, but it was a small lottery.

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Reply #125 posted 02/17/14 7:00pm

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EuanH91 said:

Ronnie Scotts have members.. they HAVE to let them in ahead of other people, that's what the membership is for. The venue can't just turn away their loyal members in favour of random people in the queue who would never come back.

That's the whole point of being a member, you get priority. The only way around that is advance ticketing. If it is a pay-on-the-door show, paying members get in first.

Of course Ronnie Scotts' are going to pander to their own members more than Prince fans.

Except, Prince made a private hire (confirmed by the venue earlier today), negating membership. Its like hiring a golf club for a wedding. Every golf club member doesn't get the right to crash the wedding. It seems there was an agreement to allow limited amounts of members to attend, but it was a small lottery.

Bingo.

I even saw some Ronnie Scott's members I know get questioned at the door and some were even turned away.

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Reply #126 posted 02/17/14 7:39pm

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it''s too quiet here for my liking!.. so was this show/s the gig of the century or a bit of a wash out?

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Reply #127 posted 02/17/14 9:26pm

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i was front row at the first show. it was like the upstairs function suite of a typical british pub, no stage as such as in raised stage, unless it was 3 inches raised at that part, and just a row of small pub tables in front of the stage as a barrier. it was like prince playing in your living room, and i was front row. at ronnie scots, the dream show, an amazing setlist, stratus, laibach, shades of umber, sex machine (sly stone), the whole of the moon (waterboys), who is he to you, cool (not mashup), how come u don't call me anymore, and loads more. prince didn't touch the guitar, it was all keyboards bar sex machine on bass. i think this may have been the best show i ever went to, it was a dream show

the second show was about 75 mins and was mostly the sampler set and funk n roll, the love we make, lets go reloaded, supersition and i think purple rain again, and fix your life up earlier. i know who got the best deal

i was speaking to noel gallagher from oasis and he told me he was a prince fan and it was the best gig ever

no, i'm not making this up. and at the end there was a mental paparazzi scrum and the police were called

i'm fucking exhausted, i was exhausted this morning due to koko but so glad i made it and can't believe i got front row at one of the smallest and most desirable prince shows of all time

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Reply #128 posted 02/17/14 9:35pm

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Wow - sounds like a special night
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Reply #129 posted 02/17/14 10:03pm

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unique said:

i was front row at the first show. it was like the upstairs function suite of a typical british pub, no stage as such as in raised stage, unless it was 3 inches raised at that part, and just a row of small pub tables in front of the stage as a barrier. it was like prince playing in your living room, and i was front row. at ronnie scots, the dream show, an amazing setlist, stratus, laibach, shades of umber, sex machine (sly stone), the whole of the moon (waterboys), who is he to you, cool (not mashup), how come u don't call me anymore, and loads more. prince didn't touch the guitar, it was all keyboards bar sex machine on bass. i think this may have been the best show i ever went to, it was a dream show

the second show was about 75 mins and was mostly the sampler set and funk n roll, the love we make, lets go reloaded, supersition and i think purple rain again, and fix your life up earlier. i know who got the best deal

i was speaking to noel gallagher from oasis and he told me he was a prince fan and it was the best gig ever

no, i'm not making this up. and at the end there was a mental paparazzi scrum and the police were called

i'm fucking exhausted, i was exhausted this morning due to koko but so glad i made it and can't believe i got front row at one of the smallest and most desirable prince shows of all time

INSANE !! Funking awesome Uni!!! I'm happy 4 u, now get some sleep and reload 4 Manc. Peace

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Reply #130 posted 02/17/14 10:11pm

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unique said:

i was front row at the first show. it was like the upstairs function suite of a typical british pub, no stage as such as in raised stage, unless it was 3 inches raised at that part, and just a row of small pub tables in front of the stage as a barrier. it was like prince playing in your living room, and i was front row. at ronnie scots, the dream show, an amazing setlist, stratus, laibach, shades of umber, sex machine (sly stone), the whole of the moon (waterboys), who is he to you, cool (not mashup), how come u don't call me anymore, and loads more. prince didn't touch the guitar, it was all keyboards bar sex machine on bass. i think this may have been the best show i ever went to, it was a dream show



the second show was about 75 mins and was mostly the sampler set and funk n roll, the love we make, lets go reloaded, supersition and i think purple rain again, and fix your life up earlier. i know who got the best deal



i was speaking to noel gallagher from oasis and he told me he was a prince fan and it was the best gig ever



no, i'm not making this up. and at the end there was a mental paparazzi scrum and the police were called



i'm fucking exhausted, i was exhausted this morning due to koko but so glad i made it and can't believe i got front row at one of the smallest and most desirable prince shows of all time



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So chuffed 4 u Unique!!

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Reply #131 posted 02/17/14 10:16pm

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Reply #132 posted 02/17/14 10:26pm

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Reply #133 posted 02/17/14 10:31pm

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Glad the Ronnie Scott gig was good for those that waited.

I queued 11 hours for the KOKO gig, got into the first show - I can hand on heart say that, despite being in the front with a great view, it was the worst Orince experience of my entire life (and I've had a few). This whole tour has been an inconsistent mess designed to exploit people devotion: the first show was a good example of that - 11 hours,£70 for a rushed gig that felt like he was bored which basically acted as a warm up for the celebrity attended 2nd show where he played 15 more songs and 45 mins (?) longer.

£70 for 90 minutes compared to;

£10 for 90 at first EB gig
£10 for 2hr(?) 2nd EB gig
£10 for 2.5 Hr at SBE
£70 for intimate acoustic Q&A
£35 for Ronnie Scott

Disgraceful - watch out Msnchester, it's the 'bend over and grab your ankles' tour
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Reply #134 posted 02/17/14 10:40pm

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bashraka said:

http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/34a596d4985611e3b581129d66bb6fb9_8.jpg


Wth? :lol:

That picture is insane. Prince. Legend.
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #135 posted 02/17/14 10:41pm

jaypotton

unique said:

i was front row at the first show. it was like the upstairs function suite of a typical british pub, no stage as such as in raised stage, unless it was 3 inches raised at that part, and just a row of small pub tables in front of the stage as a barrier. it was like prince playing in your living room, and i was front row. at ronnie scots, the dream show, an amazing setlist, stratus, laibach, shades of umber, sex machine (sly stone), the whole of the moon (waterboys), who is he to you, cool (not mashup), how come u don't call me anymore, and loads more. prince didn't touch the guitar, it was all keyboards bar sex machine on bass. i think this may have been the best show i ever went to, it was a dream show

the second show was about 75 mins and was mostly the sampler set and funk n roll, the love we make, lets go reloaded, supersition and i think purple rain again, and fix your life up earlier. i know who got the best deal

i was speaking to noel gallagher from oasis and he told me he was a prince fan and it was the best gig ever

no, i'm not making this up. and at the end there was a mental paparazzi scrum and the police were called

i'm fucking exhausted, i was exhausted this morning due to koko but so glad i made it and can't believe i got front row at one of the smallest and most desirable prince shows of all time

Hmm this is getting interesting Unique - once again you go to BOTH shows of the night and are not therefore cleared out with the crowd from the first show. What you doing, hiding in the toilets?!?!?!?!

'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #136 posted 02/17/14 11:22pm

rafael

did he sing the waterboys tune? Was in complete? Great

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Reply #137 posted 02/17/14 11:32pm

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jaypotton said:

unique said:

i was front row at the first show. it was like the upstairs function suite of a typical british pub, no stage as such as in raised stage, unless it was 3 inches raised at that part, and just a row of small pub tables in front of the stage as a barrier. it was like prince playing in your living room, and i was front row. at ronnie scots, the dream show, an amazing setlist, stratus, laibach, shades of umber, sex machine (sly stone), the whole of the moon (waterboys), who is he to you, cool (not mashup), how come u don't call me anymore, and loads more. prince didn't touch the guitar, it was all keyboards bar sex machine on bass. i think this may have been the best show i ever went to, it was a dream show

the second show was about 75 mins and was mostly the sampler set and funk n roll, the love we make, lets go reloaded, supersition and i think purple rain again, and fix your life up earlier. i know who got the best deal

i was speaking to noel gallagher from oasis and he told me he was a prince fan and it was the best gig ever

no, i'm not making this up. and at the end there was a mental paparazzi scrum and the police were called

i'm fucking exhausted, i was exhausted this morning due to koko but so glad i made it and can't believe i got front row at one of the smallest and most desirable prince shows of all time

Hmm this is getting interesting Unique - once again you go to BOTH shows of the night and are not therefore cleared out with the crowd from the first show. What you doing, hiding in the toilets?!?!?!?!

He said he was at the first, Where did he say he was at the second show? His description reads like he probably spoke to someone who went to that one.

Or maybe he is hiding in the toilets!

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Reply #138 posted 02/17/14 11:51pm

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There are definitely big Prince fans and then there are hardcore Prince fans. I don't think you get into these kind of shows if you are not hardcore or prepared to do what the hardcore regulars do. Then there are the über-hardcore who always seem to get front and centre.

I always read reports from the likes of unique with momentary lapses into mild bitterness and jealousy wink , partly thrilled that some lucky fans saw such an amazing setlist or got so close, even at gigs that I might have been at but somewhere a little (or a lot) further back.

Then I think about what they did to get in that position, reorganised annual leave, spent extra money travelling, or on hotels, spent hours queuing, reserving spots, dehydrated, hungry, tired...

I'm not prepared to do that on a regular basis, I don't even want to justify doing it. Sometimes things work out for us big Prince fans, SBE was mine this time, took a chance, drove up, queued for a couple of hours and got in, happy to be sort of towards the back away from the scrum front row.

This Ronnie Scotts's first show sounds amazing. Genuinely happy for those that got to see such an amazing show. You did the work, the reward is great for those who want to go... cool
[Edited 2/17/14 23:56pm]
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #139 posted 02/18/14 12:17am

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unique said:

i was front row at the first show. it was like the upstairs function suite of a typical british pub, no stage as such as in raised stage, unless it was 3 inches raised at that part, and just a row of small pub tables in front of the stage as a barrier. it was like prince playing in your living room, and i was front row. at ronnie scots, the dream show, an amazing setlist, stratus, laibach, shades of umber, sex machine (sly stone), the whole of the moon (waterboys), who is he to you, cool (not mashup), how come u don't call me anymore, and loads more. prince didn't touch the guitar, it was all keyboards bar sex machine on bass. i think this may have been the best show i ever went to, it was a dream show

the second show was about 75 mins and was mostly the sampler set and funk n roll, the love we make, lets go reloaded, supersition and i think purple rain again, and fix your life up earlier. i know who got the best deal

i was speaking to noel gallagher from oasis and he told me he was a prince fan and it was the best gig ever

no, i'm not making this up. and at the end there was a mental paparazzi scrum and the police were called

i'm fucking exhausted, i was exhausted this morning due to koko but so glad i made it and can't believe i got front row at one of the smallest and most desirable prince shows of all time

Thanks for the great review Unique - much appreciated. Gives me a real feel for the show and the atmos, sounds like it was very special...thanks also to orger bashraka for great pics!

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Reply #140 posted 02/18/14 12:37am

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Veej said:

unique said:

i was front row at the first show. it was like the upstairs function suite of a typical british pub, no stage as such as in raised stage, unless it was 3 inches raised at that part, and just a row of small pub tables in front of the stage as a barrier. it was like prince playing in your living room, and i was front row. at ronnie scots, the dream show, an amazing setlist, stratus, laibach, shades of umber, sex machine (sly stone), the whole of the moon (waterboys), who is he to you, cool (not mashup), how come u don't call me anymore, and loads more. prince didn't touch the guitar, it was all keyboards bar sex machine on bass. i think this may have been the best show i ever went to, it was a dream show

the second show was about 75 mins and was mostly the sampler set and funk n roll, the love we make, lets go reloaded, supersition and i think purple rain again, and fix your life up earlier. i know who got the best deal

i was speaking to noel gallagher from oasis and he told me he was a prince fan and it was the best gig ever

no, i'm not making this up. and at the end there was a mental paparazzi scrum and the police were called

i'm fucking exhausted, i was exhausted this morning due to koko but so glad i made it and can't believe i got front row at one of the smallest and most desirable prince shows of all time

Thanks for the great review Unique - much appreciated. Gives me a real feel for the show and the atmos, sounds like it was very special...thanks also to orger bashraka for great pics!

p.s. how long did you wait for...?

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Reply #141 posted 02/18/14 12:39am

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unique said:

i was front row at the first show. it was like the upstairs function suite of a typical british pub, no stage as such as in raised stage, unless it was 3 inches raised at that part, and just a row of small pub tables in front of the stage as a barrier. it was like prince playing in your living room, and i was front row. at ronnie scots, the dream show, an amazing setlist, stratus, laibach, shades of umber, sex machine (sly stone), the whole of the moon (waterboys), who is he to you, cool (not mashup), how come u don't call me anymore, and loads more. prince didn't touch the guitar, it was all keyboards bar sex machine on bass. i think this may have been the best show i ever went to, it was a dream show

the second show was about 75 mins and was mostly the sampler set and funk n roll, the love we make, lets go reloaded, supersition and i think purple rain again, and fix your life up earlier. i know who got the best deal

i was speaking to noel gallagher from oasis and he told me he was a prince fan and it was the best gig ever

no, i'm not making this up. and at the end there was a mental paparazzi scrum and the police were called

i'm fucking exhausted, i was exhausted this morning due to koko but so glad i made it and can't believe i got front row at one of the smallest and most desirable prince shows of all time

Mate, you deserve at least a platinum medal for determination and resiliency!

Good to see you be it briefly and glad you had a good one!!!!

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Reply #142 posted 02/18/14 12:42am

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agoose said:



egansmind said:




Whitnail said:



After the fiasco with The Cure, which was the week before the Prince gigs, I assumed I had no chance to get a ticket. In the end, I got lucky and saw 3 shows. However, it is not something I would want to do on a regular basis. So yes, there should be some method to the ticketing of the shows. That at Ronnies tonight is a total joke, I am not sure what they are thinking, especially in Soho, it is packed all the time anyway. Will be interesting what happens when the doors open.



Off the subject slightly.


I am hoping to get tickets for the upcoming Cure tour at the end of the year


Head on the Door and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss me were outstanding albums and I hope I can see them played in full. I wonder were they will play ?



The Cure are great - never caught them live though



Love The Cure and am going to the Teenage Cancer Trust gig. Definitely try and get to see them - great, deep, heavy guitar melancholia. "Disintegration" one of my favourite all-time albums.
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Reply #143 posted 02/18/14 12:44am

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Holy shit that 1st show sounds amazing and I think it shows he reads Prince.org! People complaining about him giving a better, longer 2nd show... That first Ronnie's one sounds like a total one off where as set 2 is more of the same. Wow wow wow, I hope he does more shows like this (set list wise) and For the people that had been queuing for as long as they did £35 is a VERY fair price IMHO. From some of the reports I'm glad I didn't go to KOKO show 1... Congrats to everyone that went to Ronnie's and can't wait for a detailed set list and more reports.
"Still Crazy 4 Coco Rock"
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Reply #144 posted 02/18/14 1:12am

powersoul99

unique said:

i was front row at the first show. it was like the upstairs function suite of a typical british pub, no stage as such as in raised stage, unless it was 3 inches raised at that part, and just a row of small pub tables in front of the stage as a barrier. it was like prince playing in your living room, and i was front row. at ronnie scots, the dream show, an amazing setlist, stratus, laibach, shades of umber, sex machine (sly stone), the whole of the moon (waterboys), who is he to you, cool (not mashup), how come u don't call me anymore, and loads more. prince didn't touch the guitar, it was all keyboards bar sex machine on bass. i think this may have been the best show i ever went to, it was a dream show

the second show was about 75 mins and was mostly the sampler set and funk n roll, the love we make, lets go reloaded, supersition and i think purple rain again, and fix your life up earlier. i know who got the best deal

i was speaking to noel gallagher from oasis and he told me he was a prince fan and it was the best gig ever

no, i'm not making this up. and at the end there was a mental paparazzi scrum and the police were called

i'm fucking exhausted, i was exhausted this morning due to koko but so glad i made it and can't believe i got front row at one of the smallest and most desirable prince shows of all time

You was 94 in the Q and yet you managed to get to the front row in such a small venue?

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Reply #145 posted 02/18/14 1:21am

Tokyo

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There are definitely big Prince fans and then there are hardcore Prince fans. I don't think you get into these kind of shows if you are not hardcore or prepared to do what the hardcore regulars do. Then there are the über-hardcore who always seem to get front and centre.

I always read reports from the likes of unique with momentary lapses into mild bitterness and jealousy wink , partly thrilled that some lucky fans saw such an amazing setlist or got so close, even at gigs that I might have been at but somewhere a little (or a lot) further back.

Then I think about what they did to get in that position, reorganised annual leave, spent extra money travelling, or on hotels, spent hours queuing, reserving spots, dehydrated, hungry, tired...

I'm not prepared to do that on a regular basis, I don't even want to justify doing it. Sometimes things work out for us big Prince fans, SBE was mine this time, took a chance, drove up, queued for a couple of hours and got in, happy to be sort of towards the back away from the scrum front row.

This Ronnie Scotts's first show sounds amazing. Genuinely happy for those that got to see such an amazing show. You did the work, the reward is great for those who want to go... cool
[Edited 2/17/14 23:56pm]


KeithyT, that sounds like a very fair summary of what's required! Like you I went to Shepherds Bush and had an amazing experience. Of course we'd all have liked to have been there last night but having a balanced life seems to dictate otherwise. The hardcore have all been catered for and although it's probably putting a lot of real Prince fans off (a lot of people I know genuinely love his music, and have been going to tours for years but don't want to Q up for hours on end at v short notice with no guarantees), the positive in this is that for a brief time Prince really seems to have his mojo back. It's always been his instinct to pare things back/be raw, but just recently it would seem his vitality, energy and enthusiasm for the music are back at their highest levels. Still gutted though! Lol
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Reply #146 posted 02/18/14 1:24am

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Set list for show one (from twitter)


LIATHACH
SHADES OF UMBER
I COULD NEVER TAKE THE PLACE OF UR MAN
BEAUTIFUL STRANGE
WHO IS HE
SEX MACHINE
TAKE ME WITH U
RASPBERRY BERET
COOL

Piano medley:
DO ME BABY
"U WILL BE" THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRL
DIAMONDS AND PEARLS
THE BEAUTIFUL ONES
SOMETHING IN THE WATER
THE WHOLE OF THE MOON
"Still Crazy 4 Coco Rock"
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Reply #147 posted 02/18/14 1:24am

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powersoul99 said:

unique said:

i was front row at the first show. it was like the upstairs function suite of a typical british pub, no stage as such as in raised stage, unless it was 3 inches raised at that part, and just a row of small pub tables in front of the stage as a barrier. it was like prince playing in your living room, and i was front row. at ronnie scots, the dream show, an amazing setlist, stratus, laibach, shades of umber, sex machine (sly stone), the whole of the moon (waterboys), who is he to you, cool (not mashup), how come u don't call me anymore, and loads more. prince didn't touch the guitar, it was all keyboards bar sex machine on bass. i think this may have been the best show i ever went to, it was a dream show

the second show was about 75 mins and was mostly the sampler set and funk n roll, the love we make, lets go reloaded, supersition and i think purple rain again, and fix your life up earlier. i know who got the best deal

i was speaking to noel gallagher from oasis and he told me he was a prince fan and it was the best gig ever

no, i'm not making this up. and at the end there was a mental paparazzi scrum and the police were called

i'm fucking exhausted, i was exhausted this morning due to koko but so glad i made it and can't believe i got front row at one of the smallest and most desirable prince shows of all time

You was 94 in the Q and yet you managed to get to the front row in such a small venue?

I once had someone at a Prince gig crawl between my legs and pop up right in front of me! I had to count to ten to stop punching him in the back of the head. True story.

Maybe it was Unique?! lol

[Edited 2/18/14 1:25am]

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Reply #148 posted 02/18/14 1:31am

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unique said:

i was front row at the first show.

So you went from 94 in queue to front row, that's some first class pushing! lol

RIP sad
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Reply #149 posted 02/18/14 1:35am

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egansmind said:

KeithyT said:

It will probably be a very few idiots spoiling the experience for others. Sigh.

So much for these Hit & Run shows being for hardcore fans only

Looks like every tom dick and harry is trying to get in on the act

Only answer - Ticketed Events

Literally my favourite ever quote.

The answer to get hardcore fans into gigs ahead of every Tom, Dick & Harry is tickets. Haha. Yep, that's hit the nail right on the head... Yes, tickets always end up in the hands of the most devoted and not those with friends at ticketmaster, 3rd party sellers or those with 20 computers on the go. Nope, not here. Just the most deserving...

The fairest way (however you look at it, these gigs were going to be over-subscribed) was you queue up first and you get in, precisely what has happened, the last four gigs (2 at koko, 2 at RS') have even been announced in advance, just like you wanted. If you didn't make it, well that's not Prince's fault.

There should have been improvements yes, shows structured perhaps more equally (I understand why the seconds have been longer, adreneline, less timing concerns etc) and security has been non-existant / poor throughout. There has been a lot of pushing in (some by chancers and some judging by the reports of people attending both shows on nights when they physically shouldn't have been able to by 'hardcore' fans posting here and not who probably think they have a right to be ahead of the queues. (Unique posted here he was number 94 in a queue (for a 200 capacity gig) yet made front row centre......) The easy solution was barriers and increased security along the line, but short-notice and security doesn't come cheap. Imagine if you were asked to pay £120 for your 90 minute show. They'd be melt down by some of you self-righteous, self-centred individuals.

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